good cook

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Namaskar Sarajit and Zoran,

 

Would you mind if I join you ?

Perhaps I am wrong, but don't you think if agni tatwa to be dominant for create

good cooks, the Ruchaka Maha Purusha yoga people will be the best cooks.? But

Maharishi classified those as Jyotish and Mantrikas. My understanding, Agni

tatwa is for strong "Chakshu" or eye for seeing beyond the limit of organs and

who process knowledge, or energy to see occultism, which is third eye- Ishwara.

 

Mainly taste (of course quality as well) may be the final out come of good cook

and Rasa is Jala tatwa presented by Venus. How ever predominant Jala tatwa

doesn't indicate good cook, but feeder, (Moon and 4th house) hand skills (3rd

and Karaka Mars) may be the factors for good cooks.

 

Also, I prefer Aruda lagna for maya of taste, which only fulfills our belly and

mind for short time of period.

 

Look forward for your comments and thank you.

 

Karu

 

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"Sarajit Poddar" <sarajit (AT) (DOT) org>

<vedic astrology>

Thursday, January 30, 2003 7:52 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: good cook

> Jaya Jagannath,> Namaste Zoran,> > I hope, this mail was addressed to me. I

don't disagree with you that > Cooking doesnot require agni tattva and for the

same reason Kitchen is > placed in the direction shown by the sign having

highest astakavarga > bindu in Mars's Asktakavarga.> > You have emphasised on

the 2nd house and I have emphasised on the > Karaka Moon, So I am not very

different from your way of understanding. > Now having taken the karaka of

food, which aspects we are seeing. The > skills required to cook the food. I

still think that the Agni Tattva is > not a strict necessity of becoming a good

cook. The mothers (Moon) and > wives (Venus) who are more Jala Tattva than Agni

tattvas are usually > good cooks. > > Now what I mean by good cook. This can

have cultural connotation. Thus > I would think one who can cook delicious food

among his own community > can be considered. For me, the best italian cook may

not make a > palatable dish for me. > > I have taken third from Moon not

because I see vessels etc from the 3rd > but the Skill (3rd) needed for cooking

(providing food- Moon)- thus 3rd > from Moon.> > Wrt to the karakatva of

dexterity, I think there is a serious > difference between us. The highest

dexterity required in weilding > weapons are better shown by Mars... this is

where I am concerened with > use of Hands. Yes, if we take the 3rd as the house

of Communication, > then Mercury can become a significator. Not with use of

Hands, Mercury > contend for the significatorship.> > Best Regards> Sarajit> >

> > > Om Namo Narayanaya,> > Yes I agree with the statement below. The point is

that for cooking a > > fire is used, so we cannot in any way ignore Agni Tatwa

by means of > > which a food is prepered unless some special diets using raw

food. > > First, we should differenetiate a few points:> > 1. Cook as a

profession (where service is imployed) where Agni Tatwa > > must be strongly

present> > 2. A good cook? What is a good cook? is it a satwic wholesome food,

> or > > exotic food.? This is all the relative. Some people may find eating >

> locust, frogs, or even Monkey brain a speciall dessert, while I will > not >

> eat it on the price of starving to death:) So the good cook, must be > >

skilled in dealing with food(cutting, cleaing etc) and finding a > proper > >

way to deal with Agni Tatwa to prepare the food. In case strong > shukra > > is

present than there will be good taste to enjoy the food, or make > it > > look

nice and balanced. Yet for the point of balancing Rasas (GURU) > > Chandra must

be properly related since chandra holds exaltation sign > of guru> > 3. Second

house in RASHI KUNDHALI indicates a food we intake . Rashi > > signifies body,

so we take food to satisfy the urge of body and > sustain > > it. So there is

no question of including divisional charts. Lord of > 2nd > > sign of Kal

Purush is Vrishab, so Shukra is natural ruler. Karak is > > Guru, while Chandra

is exalted in Vrishaba. So these grahas indicate > > intake of food. Mangal and

Surya is agni tatwa, while Chandra being > > sustaining graha (mother) will

indicate skills in caring and > sustaining > > body by food and water. I can

agree with a 3rd house by means of > skills, > > and in Prashna scriptures I

have seen 3rd house indicating vessels, > > plates etc. However, I still do

think that 2nd house must be related > to > > preparing food primarily> > 4.

For dexterity I mean the same as you. You state that Mars is > karaka > > which

is ok, yet Budha is natural ruler of gemini (3rd house in kal > > purush), and

budha signifies hands. So I would assign dexterity to > budha > > first, and

Mars secondly.> > Best wishes> > Zoran> > > > > Jaya Jagannath,> > > Dear

Zoran,> > > > > > Placement of the Kitchen is one thing and Skill in cooking

is > another. > > > This is the same way, worshipping (Jupiter) is different

from place > of > > > Worship (Sun). Now I have taken Moon (you also said that)

for the > one > > > who feeds and the 3rd from it for the skill of that person

who > feeds.> > > > > > Now with dexterity, I mean the use of Hands and 3rd is

the house of > > > hands and rules all the skills which require the use of

Hands, mars > > > being the Karaka, gives the skill to use the hands. Did you

mean > > > something else with dexterity.> > > > > > Regards> > > Sarajit> >

>> > > -> > > ** Zoran Radosavljevic

<ahimsa (AT) NSpoint (DOT) net>> > > *To:* vedic astrology> > >

<vedic astrology>> > > *Sent:* Thursday, January

30, 2003 6:04 AM> > > *Subject:* Re: [vedic astrology] Re: good cook> > >>

> > Om Namo Narayanaya,> > > Dear Sarajit,> > > I cannot agree. I

think as Visti, that Mangal should be strong > as> > > ruler of Agni Tatwa.

Even in Vastu Shastra, the Ashtak Varga of> > > Mangal is looked for to

determine the direction of Kitchen. > Mangal> > > should be lined to 2nd

house of food. Karak is Shukra while> > > Chandra is naturally exalted in

2nd sign. Who can else prepere> > > better meal for children from Chandra?

I do not see your reson> > > why Mangal should rule dexterity. I think it is

Budha.> > > Best wishes> > > Zoran> > >> > >>Jaya Jagannath> > >>Dear

Denis,> > >>> > >>Very intersting question. Befor answering this can we be sure

> whether > > >>we know how to see whether the native is a good cook or not from

> his > > >>horoscope.> > >>> > >>If I think what it requires to be a good cook,

the things which > come to > > >>my mind are> > >>1. The skills of cooking shall

be controlled by the 3rd house.> > >>2. The planets who are involved in cooking

will be > > >> a. Mars- the planet ruling dexterity> > >> b. Moon- The

feeder> > >> c. Jupiter- The planet which keeps us alive, because it is the >

Jiva.> > >>> > >>I guess the 3rd house from karaka of food Moon, can show

cooking. > If > > >>the 3rd lord is fortified then the person will be good in

cooking. > The > > >>kind of food the person would like to cook will be shown

by the > planets > > >>having argala and aspects on the 3rd house. I would

guess Jupiter > would > > >>be more to do with keeping us alive than anything

to do > particularly > > >>with food> > >>> > >>I am not involving Mars as of

now. Because I don't think that all > the > > >>good cook should have a

fortified Mars, however a good sholdier > should > > >>have it. :-)> > >>> >

>>This is only a logical guess. I would like the good cooks in the > list > >

>>to verify. If this works, we can see how can we see the same thing > for > >

>>the spouse.> > >>> > >>> > >>Regds> > >>Sarajit> > >>> > >> > > >>> >

>>>Hare Rama Krishna> > >>>> >

>>>-> ---> >

>>> > > >>>> > >>----------> > >> > > >>> > >>>Dear Denis,> > >>>I dunno

what the others are looking for, but Mars is the karaka > for > > >>> > >

>>>> > >>cooking, and a strong Mars in trines to the 7th house in Navamsa >

will > > >>ensure that your Wife is very able in dealing with fire. Also check

> the > > >>same from Upapada and the 7th lord.> > >> > > >>> > >>>Best

wishes> > >>>Visti> > >>>---> > >>>Sri Jagannath Center:

http://.org> > >>>Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org>

> >>>iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org> > >>> ----- Original

Message ----- > > >>> Phyl Chubb > > >>> To:

vedic astrology > > >>> Monday, January 27, 2003 9:38

PM> > >>> Re: Re: [vedic astrology] good cook> > >>>> > >>>>

> >>> Dear Denis,> > >>> D-16 has to do with pleasure among other things so

that would be > a > > >>> > > >>>> > >>good place to look. Plus the Navamsa

deals with a great deal more > than > > >>just our spouse.> > >> > > >>> > >>>

Cheers.........Phyllis> > >>> - > > >>>

Denis 1008 > > >>> vedic astrology > > >>> Sent:

Monday, January 27, 2003 8:08 AM> > >>> Re: Re:

[vedic astrology] good cook> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> It would be much easier if

there is an example, if possible. > > >>> > > >>>> > >>Also, is there any

specific reason that D-16 should be taken > instead of > > >>Navamsa (generaly

accepted as chart regarding spouse) ?> > >> > > >>> > >>> Thanks.> > >>>> >

>>> Denis1008> > >>>> > >>> - > > >>>

Ramapriya D > > >>> vedic astrology > > >>>

Monday, January 27, 2003 1:06 PM> > >>> Re:

[vedic astrology] good cook> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> Dear Denis,> > >>>> > >>>

Let me take a pot shot (pun incidental ) at this.> > >>>> > >>> I

guess you should look at the 4th from lagna in D-16 and > look > > >>> > >

>>>> > >>for some kind of a connection with that house of Jupiter (karaka > for

> > >>good food), Venus (karaka for the fine things in life) and the UL > >

>>(since you're looking for partner's influence). Why the 4th house > and > >

>>not the 2nd house? Because though the 2nd stands for nourishment, > it > >

>>could be wholesome but not gourmet fare. The 4th house, though, is > the > >

>>natural connoisseur house.> > >> > > >>> > >>> Warm regards,> > >>>> >

>>> Ramapriya> > >>> hubli (AT) vsnl (DOT) com> > >>>> > >>> -----

Original Message ----- > > >>> Denis 1008 > > >>> To:

vedic astrology > > >>> Monday, January 27, 2003

1:11 PM> > >>> [vedic astrology] good cook> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>

What are the indications in the chart which show that > one's > > >>>

> > >>>> > >>partner is a good cook ?> > >> > > >>> > >>> Denis1008> >

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