[SJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Achyuta Gurukul] Achyuta Gurukul] RE:Lagna lord in 5th house

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Hello Swee and list ,

 

This rule does not seemt to work for me as well as my wife.

 

Are there any more qualifiers ?

 

-Kumar

 

, "Swee Chan" <swee@c...> wrote:

> Dear Sai,

>

> Namaste

>

>

> saikumar [astrossk]

> Wednesday, January 08, 2003 4:53 AM

>

> RE: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Achyuta Gurukul] Re: Achyuta

Gurukul]

> RE:Lagna lord in 5th house

>

> Namasthe Swee and All,

>

> This is what I have on Saptamsa from the list.

>

> "If the Saptamsa Lagna is odd, then the first child is

> seen from the 5th house/lord and count every 3rd from

> the 5th house; i.e. 1st child: 5th house, 2nd child:

> 7th house, 3rd child: 9th, etc etc(5, 7, 9, 11, 1),

> following the order of Mandooka Ghati. Study the

> Mandooka Dasa in BPHS and Jaimini's Upadesa to

> understand this Dasa.

>

> Similarly if the Saptamsa lagna is even count in

> reverse, starting from the 9th house(9, 7, 5, 3, 1)."

>

> Should we consider this or ignore this has always been

> the dilemma for me.

>

> Thanks in advance for any clarifications.

>

> Sai

>

> Yes, verify this from the Saptamsa.... an excellent study of my

Saptamsa in

> Hyderabad by Sanjay Guru. He was the only person who correctly

identified

> and described my children from my chart after rectification. (1

other I

> tried the previous day, did not succeed.) More below:

>

> Best wishes, Swee

>

>

> For a male nativity, subsequent children are determined from the

lords of

> every 3rd house from the fifth, in direct order, i.e. the second

child 7th

> house lord third child from 9th house lord and fourth child from

11th house

> lord and so on whereas, for a female nativity, subsequent children

are

> determined from the lords of every 3rd house from the ninth, in

reverse

> order. i.e. the second child from 7th house lord, third child from

5th lord

> and fourth child from 3rd lord and so on.

> A male child is predicted, if the lord of the child is, (a) placed

in an odd

> sign or, Cancer or Pisces OR *(b) exalted or conjoins exalted

planets, or

> *© conjunct the Sun, Jupiter, Mars or Rahu (considered male

planets).

> A female child is predicted, if the lord of the child is,

> (a) placed in an even sign, Gemini or Aquarius, OR

> (b) debilitated or conjoins debilitated planets, or

> © conjunct the Moon, Venus, Mercury, Ketu (Considered feminine

planets) or

> Saturn ( Napumsaka also)

> The sign occupied by the 5th, 7th etc Lords should be treated as

the Lagna

> of individual

> children. Take the lord as the Lagna of specific children and

predict

> fortune as per dasa's.

>

>

> --- Swee Chan <swee@c...> wrote:

> > Jaya Jagannatha

> >

> > Dear Chadrashekhar and Sanjay,

> >

> > The lesson is given by Sanjay Guru, of which I will

> > give the excerpt here.

> >

> > This article is restricted to progeny only.

> > SEX DETERMINATION

> > There are certain simple rules that govern the sex

> > determination of the

> > children.

> > For a male nativity, the first child is determined

> > by the lord of the 5th

> > house from Saptamsa Lagna, whereas for a female

> > nativity, the first child is

> > determined from the lord of the 9th house from

> > Saptamsa Lagna.

> >

> >

> > Namaste,

> >

> > Swee

> >

> >

> >

> > sanjayprabhakaran <sprabhakaran@s...>

> > [sprabhakaran@s...]

> > Wednesday, January 08, 2003 3:03 AM

> >

> > [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Achyuta Gurukul] Re:

> > Achyuta Gurukul]

> > RE:Lagna lord in 5th house

> >

> > || Om Sri Gurave Namah ||

> >

> > Dear Chandrashekar,

> >

> > > You have said in male chart 5th refers to child

> > and 9th in female

> > chart. I would like to know the text where this is

> > mentioned so that

> > I can update my konwledge. I have not found any

> > reference to

> > reversing houses for female charts.

> >

> > I am saying this from what is taught to me. I will

> > try to search for

> > reference if I will pass it when I find.

> >

> > >Does this mean that 3rd would be Aya sthana for a

> > female and 10th

> > Matrusthana which should happen by the reasoning you

> > gave ?

> >

> > NO. Ayu and mother are same whether you are male or

> > female. But

> > childbirth is different. Things which apply to both

> > sex should be

> > seen the same way.

> >

> > > Perhaps you are refering to Saptamsha charts and

> > not natal chart

> > that I was refering to.

> >

> > Yes, saptamsa is seen to for each child.

> >

> > Warm Regards,

> > S. Prabhakaran

> >

> >

> >

> > > Regards,

> > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > -

> > > sanjayprabhakaran <sprabhakaran@s...>

> > >

> > > Tuesday, January 07, 2003 9:53 PM

> > > [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: Achyuta

> > Gurukul] RE:Lagna

> > lord in 5th house

> > >

> > >

> > > Om Sri Gurave Namah

> > >

> > > Dear Chandrashakar,

> > >

> > > > Would not Sun in 5th with Mars and Jupiter in

> > 9th for Aires

> > > ascendant qualify for the shloka I have cited?

> > >

> > > Yes this may qualify. Look into saptamasa and

> > shadbala strength

> > of

> > > Jupiter to cross verify.

> > >

> > > > As for the original topic,there is a line o

> > thought which

> > > calculates the first born amongst relatives from

> > the designated

> > Bhava

> > > from Ascendant the next born from the Bhava at

> > same no. of Bhava

> > from

> > > designated bhava and so on. So first born will

> > be indicated by

> > 5th

> > > Bhava the second born by 9th house(5th from 5th)

> > and so on. This

> > > could be the key to the riddle that is being

> > sought.

> > >

> > > NO!. that way you are calculating childs child.

> > (Anyway for

> > childs

> > > child i.e grandchild you should use child's lord

> > as lagna).

> > > Else some basics like bhavat bhavam will be

> > violated.

> > > 9th house is third child. for male chart use

> > 5,7,9 etc jump 3

> > houses

> > > in Saptamsa as the next child a younger sibling!

> > >

> > > The 5th is controlling house for children in

> > male chart and 9th

> > house

> > > for females. The sequence is reversed for FEMALE

> > CHARTS

> > >

> > > Warm Regards.

> > > S. Prabhakaran

> > >

> > >

> > > > My poser was just to illustrate the fact that

> > yogas in shlokas

> > are

> > > not to be taken verbatim but the principle

> > behind the yogas

> > should be

> > > understood in order to arrive at correct import

> > of the sages.

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > > -

> > > > Zoran Radosavljevic

> > > >

> > > > Monday, January 06, 2003 5:38 AM

> > > > Re: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re:

> > Achyuta Gurukul]

> > RE:Lagna

> > > lord in 5th house

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Chandrakeshar,

> > > > That is correct. Lagnesh in the 5th can

> > surely give the

> > children

> > > under the circumstances below. Yet the question

> > was about the 1st

> > > child..

> > > > Best wishes

> > > > Zoran

> > > > Chandrashekhar wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Visti,Zoran and other Learned

> > Jyotishis,If I may

> > > intervene,Jataka Parijat says in the chapter of

> > Bhavaphala-5th-

> > 6th

> > > Bhava shloka17"One shall certainly beget a

> > Son(Progeny) if Lagnesh

> > > (Lord of Ascendant) is in 5th, lord of the 5th

> > is strong and

> > Jupiter

> > > is Bali(Strong).Chandrashekhar.

> > > > -

> > > > Visti Larsen

> > > >

> > > > Saturday, January 04, 2003 9:18 PM

> > > > Re: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re:

> > Achyuta Gurukul]

> > > RE:Lagna lord in 5th house

> > > >

> > > > Hare Rama Krishna

> > > >

> > > >

> >

> -------------------------------

> > ----

> > > ------

> > > > Dear Zoran, "Progenic bliss is not

> > assured, and the first

> > > child could be lost"

> > > > Zoran: Lagnesh carry the energy of

> > Mangal (mesh is the

> > first

> > > rashi of Kal Purush), so his influence as a

> > Mangal could lessen

> > the

> > > progenic bliss, as well as take the first child

> > which is

> >

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