Shad darshan: additional Inquiry to deeper understanding

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Om Rum Rameshvaram Namaha,

Namaskr Sanjayji,

 

You have informed us of the following::::

" Now, the Jyotish aspect: There are nine planets or nava-graha. Of

these, the nodes are indicative of eclipses or darkness and lack of

illumination. They tend to obstruct the path to knowledge in some

manner or the other. Hence, in principle, they cannot rule any of

the 'darshana' nor do they work for the Sun in this noble cause."

 

Let me inquire on one item... you have taught in the past

that Ketu can ( has the power) to exalt the Sun.

Yet I am having difficulty reconsiling the this whith what you

teach above...if Ketu can exalt Surya, does he not support

the Sun's efforts for darshana vs. obstruct?

How can one rationalize the two?

 

 

Pranams.

Frank

 

, "Sanjay Rath" <daivagyna@s...>

wrote:

> OM GURAVE NAMAH

> Dear Jyotisha,

>

> As usual there is confusion and speculation when the principles

for the differentiation are not understood.

> The word used is shad-darshana. Shad means six and darshana means

to see or sight and refers to the body of knowledge that illumines

the mind. Look at the basics: What is the source of all light and

life? It is the Sun God and the sun alone is the source of all

original light that is adequate enough to cause vision in the

physical sence of the word and illumination in the spiritual sence

of the term. Thus, the SUN is the governor of all the darshana and

shall illumine different paths to the same God.

>

> Now, the Jyotish aspect: There are nine planets or nava-graha. Of

these, the nodes are indicative of eclipses or darkness and lack of

illumination. They tend to obstruct the path to knowledge in some

manner or the other. Hence, in principle, they cannot rule any of

the 'darshana' nor do they work for the Sun in this noble cause.

Excluding the nodes, we have seven planets remaining of which the

overall GOVERNOR for DARSHANA is the Sun. The Sun indicates the

completeness of the knowledge or the perfection related to any body

of knowledge. That is why Jaimini teaches " panchame surya gitagya"

where the gita is the crux of all the different systems of knowledge

to know Him. Having confirmed that the Sun is the final objective or

the 'real' darshana, let us examine the remaining six planets from

Moon to Saturn.

>

> Shad-Darshana

> The shad-darshana are the six streams of philosophy that a person

(of some intelligence) adopts in his spiritual path. In fact

darshana refers to the knowledge or peculiar mode of thinking as

well that shall illumine his path to God. The path to God is

referred to as the DEVI or SHAKTI or the mother. In mantra-nyasa,

this is SHAKTI nyasa is doe on the feet so that the path is not

changed and this is the real meaning of the word Durga as derived

from "Durgati-nashinyai" or the one Who removes us from the wrong

path and takes us to the right path towards God realisation. For

example, the aspirants of Krishna worship Radha as the mother and

when Krishna takes the vesha of Jagannatha, then She is Gundicha or

Vimala. Every mantra must have a shakti and the nyasa of the shakti

at the feet is important for the 'gati' or movement towards God

realisation.

> Moon - Sankhya shastra

> Mars - Nyaya shastra

> Mercury - Mimamsa shastra

> Jupiter - Veda shastra

> Venus - Vaiseshika shastra

> Saturn - Yoga shastra

>

> For the sake of good record, the five crucial nyasa are:

> 1) RISHI at the head,

> 2) CHANNDA/metre or vibration in the mouth (Gayatri/Matrika),

> 3) DEVATA or deity (form or formless God as described by the

mantra) in the heart,

> 4) BIJA or the seed syllable that causes creation in the Linga

(Brahma (worship prohibited and hence Shiva Linga) and,

> 5) SHAKTI (Devi/Durgati-nashinyai/Mother/Prakriti) at the feet

> The shad-darshana are meaningless if (a) your head cannot reason

clearly being enraged by rajas or depressed by tamas thoughts, (b)

your mouth does not have the sweetness of the beautiful channda like

the Gayatri, © your heart has no place for the few souls in this

planet - what to speak of the omni-present Bhagavan Vishnu, (d) if

your linga cannot create anything worthwhile for this samsara

(world) and (e) your feet do not take you to the right people at the

right place and at the right time for the right yoga.

>

> Test yourself: List out the nyasa for the following mantra:

> Q1. (a) the maha-mantra kirtana: Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna

Krishna Hare Hare, Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare; (b)

Vasudeva dwadasakshari mantra: Om namo bhagavate vasudevaaya; ©

Isana Panchakshari: namah Shivaya (d) Mrityunjaya Mantra, and (d)

Gayatri mantra. I have given simple and well known mantra and this

should be easy.

> Q2. There are five parts of the mantra for which nyasa is

performed as indicated above and these are five tatwas. Match one

tatwa to each of the mantra parts/nyasa.

> Q3. There are five main deities in Hinduism. These are the panca-

devata: Surya, Ganesha, Vishnu, Siva and Shakti. Link each of the

devata to one Tatwa, and then the tatwa to one of the nyasa. Why is

the worship of the pancha devata considered essential in Hinduism?

>

> Coming back to shad-darshana, let us take an example. Can Jyotish

be considered a shad-darshana, and if so, which darshana does it

signify and how? Extracts from Vedic remedies in Astrology by this

scribe: " Some people have expressed the opinion that Jyotish is not

a vedanga and that the word " Vedic" is a misnomer. The six

important parts of the Vedas are personified as its feet, face,

hands, eyes, nose and ears. Chandas, vyakarana, kalpa, jyotish,

siksha and nirukta represent these respectively. In the next stanza,

prasna marga adds that since jyotish (Astrology) is the eye of the

Vedas it is given the highest pedestal. Thus, there is no further

doubt that jyotish is a vedanga." Thus, Jyotish is a part of the

Veda and the largest part as Sankaracharya has referred to it as the

ocean of knowledge. As per the list above, this should be ruled by

Jupiter. Jupiter also rules the 'Akash Tatwa'. It is for this reason

that Harihara advises that Jupiter should be placed in Lagna at the

muhurta when a person begins the study of Jyotish. Thus, if a person

is seeking a muhurta to start studying sankhya shastra, then the

Moon should be strong, or preferably in Lagna. A person should have

Mars strong in Lagna at the time of commencing studies in Law or at

the time of going to war, else the effort shall fail.

>

> Yoga

> As a darshana, it refers to Hatha yoga and to Ayurveda which are

related to longevity increase and good health (ruled by positive

Saturn). In fact Saturn in the negative shows diseases and poor

personal care for the body. However, the Yoga discussed as a subject

matter of Vedanta in the Gita is different. Here, the knowledge of

the Bhagavat Gita is ruled by the Sun as indicated by Jaimini and

also in the words of Sri Krishna. Here again, the Sun becomes the

Governor and decides as to whether the Yoga shall begin at all and

if so, when. The Moon is the sustainer of the Yoga as it shows the

bonding between two. This has been explicitly stated by Kalyana

Verma (Saravali).

>

> I shall leave it here and let the discussion continue on Yoga

continue.

>

> At the feet of Guru Pandita Kasinatha,

> I remain,

> Sanjay Rath

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Personal Web: http://srath.com

>

> vedic astrology, Gauranga Das

<gauranga@b...> wrote:

> > JAYA JAGANNATHA!

> >

> > Dear Narasimha and members,

> >

> > Namaste.

> >

> > Some years ago we had a discussion on Varahamihira list on

mapping the

> > Sad0darshana to planets.

> >

> > As far as I remember, also recollecting from the present posts,

the list was

> > as follows:

> >

> > Sun-

> > Moon- Saamkhya

> > Mars- Nyaaya

> > Mercury-Mimamsa

> > Jupiter - Vedanta

> > Venus - Vaisesika

> > Saturn - Yoga

> > Rahu&Ketu - Tamasik, Tantrik and unorthodox philosophy

> >

> > So the Sun in tha bove mapping is left out. Whats should we

think about it?

> >

> > Karma-yoga Saturn, Mars

> > Jnana-yoga Jupiter, Sun

> > Bhakti-yoga Moon and Venus (I would put Moon for Krishna-bhakti

and Venus

> > for Devata-upasana)

> >

> > What may be the specific differences between Saturn and Mars in

karma, or

> > Jupiter and Sun in Jnaana?

> > My idea is that there's two aspects of Karma, i.e. the drive to

do it, the

> > activity (Mars) and the renuncation of it or its fruits

(Saturn). Also in

> > Jnaana, there's two basic conclusions: the monistic (Sun) and

the dualistic

> > (Jupiter). so the Jnaani either gets to the conclusion that he

is one with

> > God (Sun) or that he is the eternal servant of God (Jupiter the

Jeeva which

> > is exalted in Cancer indicating Krishna). On the other hand Moon

is exalted

> > in Taurus which indicates the nature of relationship-bhakti. We

might remark

> > that Bhagavan Sri Krishna had Taurus Lagna with an exalted Moon

in it, while

> > Venus in the 4th which is Sri Caitanya's Lagna is Leo with the

Moon and Ketu

> > in it. On the other hand Bhagavan Sri Rama's Lagna is Cancer

with Moon and

> > Jupiter in it. So all of this maps well together.

> >

> > Comments please.

> >

> > Yours,

> >

> > Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer

> > gauranga@b...

> > Jyotish Remedies:

> > WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET

> > Phone:+36-309-140-839

> >

> > -

> > "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr@c...>

> > <vedic astrology>

> > Saturday, January 11, 2003 4:34 AM

> > [vedic astrology] Re: Spiritual paths from D-20 (To

Siva)

> >

> >

> > > Dear Siva,

> > >

> > > > Vyam Vyasa-devaya Namah.

> > > >

> > > > Dear PVRji,

> > > > That was a very informative post.

> > > > The following is my extrapolation from your post coupled

with my own

> > > > general understandings. Please verify/correct and add more

comments

> > > > as appropritate.

> > > >

> > > > Guru, Sukra and Budh stand for philosophical approach, while

> > > > representing different paths - but the methodology is

philosophical

> > > > or gnana yoga. Isnt mercury a significator for

> > > > meditation/contemplation?

> > > >

> > > > Saturn stands for Raja yoga or tapas (Patanjali yoga sutras

and/or

> > > > tapas/sanyas).

> > > >

> > > > Rahu - may be nyaya or no fully immersed in materialism.

> > >

> > > Mars stands for Nyaya. Rahu shows tamasik forms, ranging from

materialism

> > to

> > > several schools of tantra.

> > >

> > > > Ketu - mystic experiences? (under special conditions grantor

of

> > > > moksha?)

> > >

> > > Rahu and Ketu are always together in D-20.

> > >

> > > > Mars - shows some aggression in the path. Depending on

influence of

> > > > other grahas mentioned above - E.g, Mars + Saturn - severe

penance,

> > > > etc.

> > >

> > > Right. Mars also shows rationalism, along with Mercury.

> > >

> > > Mars shows nyaya style rationalism (draw quick conclusions)

and Mercury

> > > shows mimamsa style rationalism (extremely profound, but very

few

> > > conclusions).

> > >

> > > > Moon - Bhakti marg???? or yoga???

> > >

> > > Moon shows Sankhya sastra as taught by Kapil and Krishna too.

He also

> > shows

> > > bhakti yoga.

> > >

> > > > What role does lagna, lagnadhipathi, AL play in D-20?

> > >

> > > The normal role they have in all charts. Lagna shows self. If

you want to

> > > know family deity, village deity etc or see one's teachers

etc, use lagna

> > as

> > > the references. Paka lagna (rasi containing lagna lord) shows

the

> > spiritual

> > > aspect of the intellect (consciousness). AK shows the soul

(which operates

> > > above the mind and the intellect). AL shows the image one has

in world

> > (for

> > > spiritual activities).

> > >

> > > Take Swami Jayendra Saraswati for example. In D-20, he had

lagna in Vi,

> > paka

> > > lagna in Ar with Mars and Mercury and AL in Sc with Saturn.

Paka lagna in

> > > Aries with Mars-Mercury combo shows that he had an extremely

sharp and

> > smart

> > > intelliect when it comes to spirituality. AL in Scorpio shows a

> > Brahminical

> > > image. Saturn in AL shows the austere image of a renunciate.

AL is all

> > about

> > > image. Paka Lagna is all about intellect. Under the image of

that monk lay

> > > an intellect that was very sharp, quick and thirsty for more

knowledge.

> > >

> > > > What about Karma yoga? - should that be determined by Saturn

also

> > > > (as saturn stands for karma).

> > >

> > > Yes.

> > >

> > > Karma yoga is shown mainly by Saturn and Mars. Gnyaana yoga is

shown

> > mainly

> > > by Jupiter and Sun. Bhakti yoga is shown mainly by Moon and

Venus.

> > >

> > > Of course, Mercury is versatile and can fit in all! :-)

> > >

> > > In addition, Mimamsa approach is shown by Mercury, Vedanta

approach is

> > shown

> > > by Jupiter, Vaiseshika approach is shown by Venus, Sankhya

approach is

> > shown

> > > by Moon, Nyaya approach is shown by Mars, Yoga approach is

shown by Saturn

> > > and many tamasik approaches including dark Tantras etc are

shown by nodes.

> > >

> > > > Thank you,

> > > > -Siva.

> > >

> > > May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> > > Narasimha

> > >

> > >

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