Achyuta Gurukul] Achyuta Gurukul] RE:Lagna lord in 5th house

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Dear Sanjay,

You wouldn't believe how many basics are violated these days. There is a an

approach propogated for seeing the 2nd spouse from the 3rd from the 7th, namely

the 9th, and every spouse subsequently from the 3rd from the bhava. This must be

the Sultan-approach.

 

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Tuesday, January 07, 2003 5:23 PM

[sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: Achyuta Gurukul] RE:Lagna lord in 5th house

Om Sri Gurave NamahDear Chandrashakar,> Would not Sun in 5th with Mars and

Jupiter in 9th for Aires ascendant qualify for the shloka I have cited? Yes

this may qualify. Look into saptamasa and shadbala strength of Jupiter to cross

verify. > As for the original topic,there is a line o thought which calculates

the first born amongst relatives from the designated Bhava from Ascendant the

next born from the Bhava at same no. of Bhava from designated bhava and so on.

So first born will be indicated by 5th Bhava the second born by 9th house(5th

from 5th) and so on. This could be the key to the riddle that is being

sought.NO!. that way you are calculating childs child. (Anyway for childs child

i.e grandchild you should use child's lord as lagna).Else some basics like

bhavat bhavam will be violated. 9th house is third child. for male chart use

5,7,9 etc jump 3 houses in Saptamsa as the next child a younger sibling!The 5th

is controlling house for children in male chart and 9th house for females. The

sequence is reversed for FEMALE CHARTSWarm Regards.S. Prabhakaran> My poser was

just to illustrate the fact that yogas in shlokas are not to be taken verbatim

but the principle behind the yogas should be understood in order to arrive at

correct import of the sages.> Regards,> Chandrashekhar. > ----- Original

Message ----- > Zoran Radosavljevic > To:

> Monday, January 06, 2003 5:38 AM>

Re: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: Achyuta Gurukul] RE:Lagna lord in 5th

house> > > Dear Chandrakeshar, > That is correct. Lagnesh in the 5th can

surely give the children under the circumstances below. Yet the question was

about the 1st child.. > Best wishes > Zoran > Chandrashekhar wrote: > >

Dear Visti,Zoran and other Learned Jyotishis,If I may intervene,Jataka

Parijat says in the chapter of Bhavaphala-5th-6th Bhava shloka17"One shall

certainly beget a Son(Progeny) if Lagnesh(Lord of Ascendant) is in 5th, lord of

the 5th is strong and Jupiter is Bali(Strong).Chandrashekhar. > -----

Original Message -----> Visti Larsen> To:

> Saturday, January 04, 2003 9:18 PM>

Re: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: Achyuta Gurukul] RE:Lagna lord in

5th house> > Hare Rama Krishna> >

-------->

Dear Zoran, "Progenic bliss is not assured, and the first child could be lost"

> Zoran: Lagnesh carry the energy of Mangal (mesh is the first rashi of

Kal Purush), so his influence as a Mangal could lessen the progenic bliss, as

well as take the first child which is particulalry signified by the 5th

houseActually the Sun is Karaka for Lagna, and Sun in the 5th house can cause

miscarriages. The reason is that the Agni of the Sun and the water needed to

sustain childbirths, cause dryness or excess heat, which results in

miscarriages, similar to the effects of planets being in Gandanta. Similarly

Mars in the 5th can cause miscarriages due to excess bleeding. As for blessings

from elders, Arudha Lagna in the 9th is enough for this. Best wishes >

Visti > --- > Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org >

Brihat Parasara Hora Shastra:

vedic astrologybphs.zip > iTRANS 99

Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org/Sanskrit/Itranslt.html > -----

Original Message -----> Zoran Radosavljevic> To:

> Saturday, January 04, 2003 3:11 PM>

Re: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: Achyuta Gurukul] RE:Lagna lord

in 5th house> Om Namo Narayanaya, > Dear Visti and other

members, > I shall try to explain why these influences as given to

Parashara: > Dear Sarajit,The results of the Lagna lord in the 5th

house are repeated as follows: "Progenic bliss is not assured, and the first

child could be lost. The native is honourable, friendly, short-tempered and a

favorite of the rulers, but tends to serve others." Best wishes >

Visti-> > "Progenic bliss is not assured, and the first child could be

lost" > Zoran: Lagnesh carry the energy of Mangal (mesh is the first

rashi of Kal Purush), so his influence as a Mangal could lessen the progenic

bliss, as well as take the first child which is particulalry signified by the

5th house > " The native is honorable" > Zoran: 5th lord in a

natural zodiac belongs to Surya while Karaka is Guru. So the person would be

blessed by Surya and Guru. Further, Arudha Lagna would fall into the 9th house

of honour and divine blessings, while Lagnesh would at the same time fall in

the 9th house from arudha Lagna. > " The native is friendly" >

This comes from Guru which is karaka for 5th house and above mentioned Arudha.

Why Friendly? Like Shri Mahavishnu, who is always friendly towards human... >

"short tempered" > Zoran: This is the infleunce of Surya as the

5th lord in Kal Purush. Surya is Pitta Graha and is short tempered > "

Favourite of the rulers, but tends to serve others" > Zoran: Favourite

of the rulers is due to Surya, karaka Guru, and Arudha Lagna in 9th house. The

question about serving others can be spiritually comprehended due to the above

infleunces. If we observe this as an ordinary matter such as business/service,

the 5th house gives status and power, and never service unless graha is

afflicted. If we treat this as a govermental service, and status through the

same, then this is ok > Best wishes > Zoran > [Om

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Dear Sanjay Prabhakaran,

You have said in male chart 5th refers to child and 9th in female chart. I would

like to know the text where this is mentioned so that I can update my konwledge.

I have not found any reference to reversing houses for female charts.Does this

mean that 3rd would be Aya sthana for a female and 10th Matrusthana which

should happen by the reasoning you gave ?

Perhaps you are refering to Saptamsha charts and not natal chart that I was

refering to. Please let me know.

Regards,

Chandrashekhar.

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Tuesday, January 07, 2003 9:53 PM

[sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: Achyuta Gurukul] RE:Lagna lord in 5th house

Om Sri Gurave NamahDear Chandrashakar,> Would not Sun in 5th with Mars and

Jupiter in 9th for Aires ascendant qualify for the shloka I have cited? Yes

this may qualify. Look into saptamasa and shadbala strength of Jupiter to cross

verify. > As for the original topic,there is a line o thought which calculates

the first born amongst relatives from the designated Bhava from Ascendant the

next born from the Bhava at same no. of Bhava from designated bhava and so on.

So first born will be indicated by 5th Bhava the second born by 9th house(5th

from 5th) and so on. This could be the key to the riddle that is being

sought.NO!. that way you are calculating childs child. (Anyway for childs child

i.e grandchild you should use child's lord as lagna).Else some basics like

bhavat bhavam will be violated. 9th house is third child. for male chart use

5,7,9 etc jump 3 houses in Saptamsa as the next child a younger sibling!The 5th

is controlling house for children in male chart and 9th house for females. The

sequence is reversed for FEMALE CHARTSWarm Regards.S. Prabhakaran> My poser was

just to illustrate the fact that yogas in shlokas are not to be taken verbatim

but the principle behind the yogas should be understood in order to arrive at

correct import of the sages.> Regards,> Chandrashekhar. > ----- Original

Message ----- > Zoran Radosavljevic > To:

> Monday, January 06, 2003 5:38 AM>

Re: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: Achyuta Gurukul] RE:Lagna lord in 5th

house> > > Dear Chandrakeshar, > That is correct. Lagnesh in the 5th can

surely give the children under the circumstances below. Yet the question was

about the 1st child.. > Best wishes > Zoran > Chandrashekhar wrote: > >

Dear Visti,Zoran and other Learned Jyotishis,If I may intervene,Jataka

Parijat says in the chapter of Bhavaphala-5th-6th Bhava shloka17"One shall

certainly beget a Son(Progeny) if Lagnesh(Lord of Ascendant) is in 5th, lord of

the 5th is strong and Jupiter is Bali(Strong).Chandrashekhar. > -----

Original Message -----> Visti Larsen> To:

> Saturday, January 04, 2003 9:18 PM>

Re: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: Achyuta Gurukul] RE:Lagna lord in

5th house> > Hare Rama Krishna> >

-------->

Dear Zoran, "Progenic bliss is not assured, and the first child could be lost"

> Zoran: Lagnesh carry the energy of Mangal (mesh is the first rashi of

Kal Purush), so his influence as a Mangal could lessen the progenic bliss, as

well as take the first child which is particulalry signified by the 5th

houseActually the Sun is Karaka for Lagna, and Sun in the 5th house can cause

miscarriages. The reason is that the Agni of the Sun and the water needed to

sustain childbirths, cause dryness or excess heat, which results in

miscarriages, similar to the effects of planets being in Gandanta. Similarly

Mars in the 5th can cause miscarriages due to excess bleeding. As for blessings

from elders, Arudha Lagna in the 9th is enough for this. Best wishes >

Visti > --- > Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org >

Brihat Parasara Hora Shastra:

vedic astrologybphs.zip > iTRANS 99

Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org/Sanskrit/Itranslt.html > -----

Original Message -----> Zoran Radosavljevic> To:

> Saturday, January 04, 2003 3:11 PM>

Re: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: Achyuta Gurukul] RE:Lagna lord

in 5th house> Om Namo Narayanaya, > Dear Visti and other

members, > I shall try to explain why these influences as given to

Parashara: > Dear Sarajit,The results of the Lagna lord in the 5th

house are repeated as follows: "Progenic bliss is not assured, and the first

child could be lost. The native is honourable, friendly, short-tempered and a

favorite of the rulers, but tends to serve others." Best wishes >

Visti-> > "Progenic bliss is not assured, and the first child could be

lost" > Zoran: Lagnesh carry the energy of Mangal (mesh is the first

rashi of Kal Purush), so his influence as a Mangal could lessen the progenic

bliss, as well as take the first child which is particulalry signified by the

5th house > " The native is honorable" > Zoran: 5th lord in a

natural zodiac belongs to Surya while Karaka is Guru. So the person would be

blessed by Surya and Guru. Further, Arudha Lagna would fall into the 9th house

of honour and divine blessings, while Lagnesh would at the same time fall in

the 9th house from arudha Lagna. > " The native is friendly" >

This comes from Guru which is karaka for 5th house and above mentioned Arudha.

Why Friendly? Like Shri Mahavishnu, who is always friendly towards human... >

"short tempered" > Zoran: This is the infleunce of Surya as the

5th lord in Kal Purush. Surya is Pitta Graha and is short tempered > "

Favourite of the rulers, but tends to serve others" > Zoran: Favourite

of the rulers is due to Surya, karaka Guru, and Arudha Lagna in 9th house. The

question about serving others can be spiritually comprehended due to the above

infleunces. If we observe this as an ordinary matter such as business/service,

the 5th house gives status and power, and never service unless graha is

afflicted. If we treat this as a govermental service, and status through the

same, then this is ok > Best wishes > Zoran > [Om

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Dear Chandrashekar,

 

> You have said in male chart 5th refers to child and 9th in female

chart. I would like to know the text where this is mentioned so that

I can update my konwledge. I have not found any reference to

reversing houses for female charts.

 

I am saying this from what is taught to me. I will try to search for

reference if I will pass it when I find.

 

>Does this mean that 3rd would be Aya sthana for a female and 10th

Matrusthana which should happen by the reasoning you gave ?

 

NO. Ayu and mother are same whether you are male or female. But

childbirth is different. Things which apply to both sex should be

seen the same way.

 

> Perhaps you are refering to Saptamsha charts and not natal chart

that I was refering to.

 

Yes, saptamsa is seen to for each child.

 

Warm Regards,

S. Prabhakaran

 

 

 

> Regards,

> Chandrashekhar.

> -

> sanjayprabhakaran <sprabhakaran@s...>

>

> Tuesday, January 07, 2003 9:53 PM

> [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: Achyuta Gurukul] RE:Lagna

lord in 5th house

>

>

> Om Sri Gurave Namah

>

> Dear Chandrashakar,

>

> > Would not Sun in 5th with Mars and Jupiter in 9th for Aires

> ascendant qualify for the shloka I have cited?

>

> Yes this may qualify. Look into saptamasa and shadbala strength

of

> Jupiter to cross verify.

>

> > As for the original topic,there is a line o thought which

> calculates the first born amongst relatives from the designated

Bhava

> from Ascendant the next born from the Bhava at same no. of Bhava

from

> designated bhava and so on. So first born will be indicated by

5th

> Bhava the second born by 9th house(5th from 5th) and so on. This

> could be the key to the riddle that is being sought.

>

> NO!. that way you are calculating childs child. (Anyway for

childs

> child i.e grandchild you should use child's lord as lagna).

> Else some basics like bhavat bhavam will be violated.

> 9th house is third child. for male chart use 5,7,9 etc jump 3

houses

> in Saptamsa as the next child a younger sibling!

>

> The 5th is controlling house for children in male chart and 9th

house

> for females. The sequence is reversed for FEMALE CHARTS

>

> Warm Regards.

> S. Prabhakaran

>

>

> > My poser was just to illustrate the fact that yogas in shlokas

are

> not to be taken verbatim but the principle behind the yogas

should be

> understood in order to arrive at correct import of the sages.

> > Regards,

> > Chandrashekhar.

> > -

> > Zoran Radosavljevic

> >

> > Monday, January 06, 2003 5:38 AM

> > Re: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: Achyuta Gurukul]

RE:Lagna

> lord in 5th house

> >

> >

> > Dear Chandrakeshar,

> > That is correct. Lagnesh in the 5th can surely give the

children

> under the circumstances below. Yet the question was about the 1st

> child..

> > Best wishes

> > Zoran

> > Chandrashekhar wrote:

> >

> > Dear Visti,Zoran and other Learned Jyotishis,If I may

> intervene,Jataka Parijat says in the chapter of Bhavaphala-5th-

6th

> Bhava shloka17"One shall certainly beget a Son(Progeny) if Lagnesh

> (Lord of Ascendant) is in 5th, lord of the 5th is strong and

Jupiter

> is Bali(Strong).Chandrashekhar.

> > -

> > Visti Larsen

> >

> > Saturday, January 04, 2003 9:18 PM

> > Re: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: Achyuta Gurukul]

> RE:Lagna lord in 5th house

> >

> > Hare Rama Krishna

> >

> > -------------------------------

----

> ------

> > Dear Zoran, "Progenic bliss is not assured, and the first

> child could be lost"

> > Zoran: Lagnesh carry the energy of Mangal (mesh is the

first

> rashi of Kal Purush), so his influence as a Mangal could lessen

the

> progenic bliss, as well as take the first child which is

particulalry

> signified by the 5th houseActually the Sun is Karaka for Lagna,

and

> Sun in the 5th house can cause miscarriages. The reason is that

the

> Agni of the Sun and the water needed to sustain childbirths,

cause

> dryness or excess heat, which results in miscarriages, similar to

the

> effects of planets being in Gandanta. Similarly Mars in the 5th

can

> cause miscarriages due to excess bleeding. As for blessings from

> elders, Arudha Lagna in the 9th is enough for this. Best wishes

> > Visti

> > ---

> > Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org

> > Brihat Parasara Hora Shastra:

> vedic astrologybphs.zip

> > iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-

> ashram.org/Sanskrit/Itranslt.html

> > -

> > Zoran Radosavljevic

> >

> > Saturday, January 04, 2003 3:11 PM

> > Re: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: Achyuta

Gurukul]

> RE:Lagna lord in 5th house

> > Om Namo Narayanaya,

> > Dear Visti and other members,

> > I shall try to explain why these influences as given to

> Parashara:

> > Dear Sarajit,The results of the Lagna lord in the

5th

> house are repeated as follows: "Progenic bliss is not assured,

and

> the first child could be lost. The native is honourable,

friendly,

> short-tempered and a favorite of the rulers, but tends to serve

> others." Best wishes

> > Visti-

> >

> > "Progenic bliss is not assured, and the first child

could

> be lost"

> > Zoran: Lagnesh carry the energy of Mangal (mesh is the

> first rashi of Kal Purush), so his influence as a Mangal could

lessen

> the progenic bliss, as well as take the first child which is

> particulalry signified by the 5th house

> > " The native is honorable"

> > Zoran: 5th lord in a natural zodiac belongs to Surya

while

> Karaka is Guru. So the person would be blessed by Surya and Guru.

> Further, Arudha Lagna would fall into the 9th house of honour and

> divine blessings, while Lagnesh would at the same time fall in

the

> 9th house from arudha Lagna.

> > " The native is friendly"

> > This comes from Guru which is karaka for 5th house and

> above mentioned Arudha. Why Friendly? Like Shri Mahavishnu, who

is

> always friendly towards human...

> > "short tempered"

> > Zoran: This is the infleunce of Surya as the 5th lord

in

> Kal Purush. Surya is Pitta Graha and is short tempered

> > " Favourite of the rulers, but tends to serve others"

> > Zoran: Favourite of the rulers is due to Surya, karaka

> Guru, and Arudha Lagna in 9th house. The question about serving

> others can be spiritually comprehended due to the above

infleunces.

> If we observe this as an ordinary matter such as

business/service,

> the 5th house gives status and power, and never service unless

graha

> is afflicted. If we treat this as a govermental service, and

status

> through the same, then this is ok

> > Best wishes

> > Zoran

> >

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