[SJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Lesson on Vipareetam Ketoh

[Guest guest]

Om Gurave Namah

 

Namaste Nisha,

 

I find all four vedamurtis listed by Guruji somehow connected to

Aries....Aries is Mesha, also called Aja, hence Ajamukha,

Markatamukha refers to Mars, Hayamukha refers to Ashwini nakshatra,

Gomukha to Bharani nakshatra.

 

Aries denoting the head also paradoxically talks of the process of

losing the head…the ashwamedha. Perhaps it indicates that if one is

willing to sacrifice / surrender "one head "(ego), he would gain four

heads representing creativity, control, gyana and sattwa that would

light up the four directions.

 

 

Regards,

Lakshmi

 

 

 

 

, Nisha <nishu_indiia> wrote:

>

> Om Namo Bhagawate Vaasudevaaya

>

>

>

> Respected Sanjay Guruji and learned members,

>

>

>

> Well, I know that I am nowhere to answer your so advanced questions

but I feel there are a few confusions for my say and I must pour them

out of myself.

>

>

>

> As a rule, ketu in AL makes a person spritual while rahu tarnishes

image. How come two parts of the same body can behave in extreme? One

leads to bhoga marg and other to moksha marg? To my limited knowledge

its bcoz ketu simply does what it feels by heart, what he has been

asked or assigned to. He does not have eyes or mind to analyse, to

see, to allegate, to confront, or to use brains (only the mind and

senses drives away the atman from the supreme). In the purest form,

ketu always try to get the soul into the supreme, the only truth,

bcoz its headless and hence no ahamkaar and no crown. That's like a

magnetic affect. But sometimes, this magnetic field effect gets weak

or impurities adhere. In that case, ketu devoid of any drishti, start

getting guided by those impactful planets. Now the need is to pick up

the most benefic influential planet which can guide ketu to its

normal course. Very rare might be those horoscopes which have purest

ketu becoz that spiritual person shall never be part of this

illusionary world in any sense. Normally, ketu requires the guiding

stick in the form of the planet which can drive him to the ultimate

destination whatever be the path chosen by that planet, may be by

being gomukha, hayamukha etc. or ganesha himself. And once he knows

his destination and he gets stick to lead him there, there could

never be any reversals or illusions. That strong magnetic field rules

out any other effect. Of course, for a person landed on this earth to

be part of maaya, this can be very bad but for a true saint this is

indeed the ever desired. Ketu in AL is not capable of reversing the

effects as it is bound to be guided by the planets influencing AL.

>

>

>

> Well, this all is limited to my thoughts n confusions and shall

always prostrate for forgiveness in case anything is not worth.

>

>

>

> Regards,

>

> Nisha

>

>

>

> P.S.: To Sureshji..... forgive me for pointing out the learned

member.... but once i too used to write the wrong mantra as u did

below until sanjay guruji pointed me out that reciting wrong mantra

is the worst enemy.

>

> Sureshbabu Chandra <suchandr@h...> wrote:

> Om Namo Bhagawate Vaasudevaya Namah!

>

> Dear Gurudeva,

>

> Namaste. Thank you very much for answering our questions

on "Vipareetham Ketoh". my understaning and questions are below.

please bear with my confusion and resulting doubts.

>

>

> >, "Sanjay Rath" wrote:

> > In the case of Narayana dasa where the ninth sign from the

arambha >rasi shall determine the direction os subsequent dasa, the

presence >of Ketu or Saturn can alter the direction as 'Forced

reverse or >forced direct' respectively. The ability of the Graha to

do so is >because of the relationship between the graha and the Satya

peetha. >The Grahas at their purest form are the incarnations of

Vishnu and >hence, their relationship with the signs and 'satya'

gives them the >ability to bring about this alteration - it is their

power as the >representation of the Vishnu avatar. To understand

this, we must >realise that every man is created in the mould of

Visnhu and every >woman is created in the mould of Lakshmi and hence

in stri Jataka >great emphasis is laid on examining the charts and

planetary results >from the 7th house. It is this satya that gives

the graha the ability >to alter the direction as it alters the nature

of the mould by its

> >presence in the houses of satya & dharma.

>

> Suresh: Ketu's connection to Satya (Lagna) and/or Dharma (9th

house), causes vepareetham. Is this because Ketu in lagna will cause

Virodhargala on 9th (reverse 5th). And is this also the reason why

NarayanaDasas are reckoned in reverse for such a situation?. But if

Jupiter is present with such a Ketu (Meaning, if Ketu learns what

is "Truth" and what is "apparent Truth"), can we say that "Ketu"

would still cause vipareetham, but *knows* or is aware of the real

Truth? (I have this doubt, because there is no rider to

negate "Vipareetham Ketoh" for NarayanaDasa reckoning, if Jupiter is

conjunct Ketu).

> > > > It is >only through the process of education (Guru kripa)

that Ketu realises >that the truth is something else. This is the

knowledge that Vishnu >blessed Ganapati with when He gave Ganesha the

head of the elephant. >This is the knowledge of astronomy and the

movement of the stars. >Thus, realising the difference between the

apparant truth and the >real truth, Ketu became Ganesha (Gaja Mukha

or with the head of an >elephant and body of a human being) the

patron deity of Jyotish as >Vishnu became Ganesha's blessing or the

Guru who teaches Jyotish. >Similarly realising the other truths, Ketu

becomes the four Veda >Murti (Go Mukha or Kamadhenu - Rig Veda, Haya

mukha or Hayagreeva - >Yaur Veda, Aja mukha or Ajaikapada -sama veda

and Markata mukha or >Hanuman - Atharva veda). Thus Ketu has a dual

role in any chart >causing marriages for the sake of increase and

growth of >family 'kulasya unnatim' as well as the 'mokshakaraka'.

The >difference again is between the apparant truth of good karma in

the >form of marriage and children which shall cause happiness to the

>elders and Pitris or the real truth of good karma in the form of

>renunciation of desires and bhakti which will cause happiness to the

>Guru and Bhagavan. Point is both are the truths - one apparant and

> >the other real.

>

> Suresh: When does Ketu signify/confer results pertaining to

it's "Kulasya Unnathim" role and when of "Mokshakaraka" role?. Can

Ketu's position, aspects (rasi), argalas reckoned from AL

show "Kulasya Unnathim" role of Ketu and those from Lagna that

of "Mokshakaraka".?

>

> > Ask yourself: are you headless or have the head of at

> >least one of the veda murti or Ganesha? If you want a head, then

>prostrate at the feet of Lord Shiva, for He alone as the real Guru

>can cut off your head (ahamkar) and worship Bhagavan Vishnu for He

> >alone as the real giver can give you a head.

>

> Suresh: Gurudeva, Please enlighten us on how to find if one has

head or not? Should this question be considered only if Ketu is in

Lagna? Would the most influential planet on ketu (thru

conjunction/aspect/argala) indicate the Mukha the native may have?.

>

> Suresh: Can we equate Jupiter=GajaMukha, Venus=GoMukha,

Mercury=HayaMukha, Saturn=AjaikaMukha and Mars=MarkatakaMukha?. Also

could you pelase throw some light on the signficance of these

different Mukhas?

> > >Now, coming to Arudha, this is the Maya Peetha ot the Lagna

>representing the apparant truth. Naturally Ketu cannot have any

>impact out here. The reversal of the apparant truth cannot occur as

>this will lead to the very negation of all that is meant or implied

>by the Arudha. That is why the reversal of house reckoning from

>Arudha Lagna is meaningless if Ketu is there. What is to be seen,

and >for the limited purpose of spirituality is the reversal of house

>reckoning from Ketu for determining Argala or those planets who

shall >help the native in losing his apparant head and getting a head

full

> >of knowledge or those planets who shall obstruct this process.

>

> Suresh: Two things become very clear. That Ketu does not cause

reversal if placed in AL, for AL is reversal (or apparentTruth) of

Satya in itself and another reversal would mean, back to the original

(Is this also one of the reasons why Aruda cannot fall in 1?). And

Argalas on Ketu and from Ketu are to be reckoned in reverse order

>

> Suresh: But Guruji, answer to our original question "If Ketu is in

Lagna (Satya) can we reckon houses in reverse order?" still eludes

me. As Ketu knows and follows only ApparentTruth (Sun's motion from

1st house to 7th house thru 10th house), and connected to Satya

(Placed in Lagna), "can he *change* 2nd house to 12th house in a

chart, for eg"? Or all he can do is "Cause argala on 2nd house,

*assuming* (lack of knowledge?) it is 12th house"?.

>

> Suresh: Is the reason for your saying in Ukiah, "6th moon behaved

like Ashtama Moon" for a Ketu asc native, because Ketu's virodhargala

on 6th (reverse 8th)?. Does it mean, during ketu periods, the planets

that receive virodhargala from Ketu may/can indicate role reversals.

>

> i respectfully wait for your answers and clarifications. Please

forgive me, if my questions/confusions sound silly.

> > >Best Regards,

> >Sanjay Rath

>

>

>

> Pranaam,

>

> -Suresh.

>

>

>

> Get faster connections -- switch to MSN Internet Access! Click Here

> Sponsor

>

> [Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah]

> Send a blank mail

> To : -

> To : -

>

> Terms of

Service.

>

>

>

>

>

> Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site