Guest guest Posted September 29, 2002 Report Share Posted September 29, 2002 Vyam Vyaasadevaaya Namah Dear Dilip, Lovely example. Heres an easy way to understand the results. a) All the houses are like rooms with doors. b) The planets represent activities within those rooms. So say i open door no. 7 (7th house). In that house i find the 11th lord, so i will find friends through 7th house actvities. Now the mind should start working.. i.e. step c) This means that through the people i marry, or have relationship or business with, i will find friends. This is an unfortunate situation where the friendships are likely to break, when the marriages or business breaks. If 7th lord was in the 12th house, then whenever i goto door no. 12, i will find my spouse! So whenever i go abroad, i find my spouse. If i stay home, then i'm likely never to marry! In this mannor understand the houses and lordships. Best wishesVisti---Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgITRANS Font: http://www.aczone.com/itrans/ - Dr.D.Banerjee sjvc Monday, September 30, 2002 6:07 AM Re: [sjvc] Importance of Adhipatis in predictions.[For kind attention of Visti and Narayan] Hare Rama Krishna----------------------------Dear Sunit,This is a late response to your mail.However, I'll try to write what little I was able to understand.The house lord is the force of a house. It has in it the dynamic power toinfluence the matter of a house it is placed in. When it is placed in someother house, thehouse-lord brings with him the force of the house over which it has thelordship. Now , what force the house-lord carries with him? Well, let ustake an example of a house-lord, say, 6th lord. 6th house represent enemy,opposition, accident , disease,humiliation etc., so the owner of 6th housewill carry with it the forces of enmity, the forces of opposition, theforces of struggle and hostility etc. Imagine what will happen if theseforces start operating in the 7th house ( i.e.when 6th lord is in the 7thhouse ) . 7th house represent the field where the forces of 6th house willbe in action. The field is the matters of the 7th house , i.e. marriage,wife/husband, marietal happiness etc. . So, there will be enmity with wife,the wife may be short tempered and hostile, no marietal happiness etc.In the example you have given , please think in this way. 7th house-lordrepresent the forces of of the 7th house, i.e. partnerships andrelationships, and these forces will act on the fields of the 11th house .Now , think of the matters signified by the 11 th house. These matters willbe influenced by the forces of partnership and relatioship, so , there willbe earnings through wife,or through partners.Think in this way when11th lord is placed in the 7th house. The forces ofgain and mulplicity of 11th house will act in the matters of 7th house ofmarriage partnership etc . So, in this case the wife will be wealthy andshe will gain. The native will gain in foreign land. As the force ofmultiplicity is acting on the 7th house of marriage, the native may marrymore than once. But in these matters of result, the strength of thehouse-lord and his affliction should be kept in mind. As the afflictiongives bad results, the afflicted 11th lord in 7th house may make the nativeindulge in " trading in fleshand similar immoral activity, the native carries on liaisons with women ofill repute." If the 11th lord if unafflicted and fortified , the result willbe very good and "the native marries only once but a rich and influencialwoman."In this way you can easily understand the result of a house-lord placed insome other house.The learned Gurus and members, particularly Visti and Narayan may give somelight on this aspectWith warm regardsDilip Banerjee.- "sunit_mehta2002" <sunit_mehta2002 ><sjvc>Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 2:50 PM[sjvc] Importance of Adhipatis in predictions.> Dear Brother Visti and honoured members,> This is just to comment about the importance of Planetary Lordships> or Adhipatis and the meaning of their being placed in certain houses.> In my learning experience of Jyotish I have found Adhipatis or> lordships explaing a great deal about the meaning and effects of a> house. For example 7th lord in 6th signifies militant partnerships or> marriage, signifying fights and quarrels in marriage or husband being> involved in defence or law. I have found this to be true in a few> charts that I have seen. I feel in deducing the effects of a house> lordship is a very important factor as brother Visti says "Meditate> on what it means to lord a House" There is a lot of meaning into this> and a lot of study involved to understand what is the meaning behind> his words..I am still learning more and more, day by day.> However I would want to know the difference between this :> example:- Ruler of 7th house in 11th and Ruler of 11th in 7th ?> 7th in 11th would show "profits from partnerships" as the lord goes> in the Aya Bhava.> What would ruler of 11th in 7th show ? ....Opportunities through> Partnerships. I'LL leave it to you to answer me on this.> God Bless,> Sunit.>>>>>>> Your use of is subject to >>Your use of is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2002 Report Share Posted September 29, 2002 Dear Visti, When I was young, an astrologer told me that I would either leave the country as soon as I got married or get married to a foreigner. This was based, I think on the 7th ruler in the 12th house. It did come to pass - I left the country within 6 months of marriage. Regards, Nimmi - Visti Larsen sjvc Sunday, September 29, 2002 5:09 PM Re: [sjvc] Importance of Adhipatis in predictions.[For kind attention of Visti and Narayan] Vyam Vyaasadevaaya Namah Dear Dilip, Lovely example. Heres an easy way to understand the results. a) All the houses are like rooms with doors. b) The planets represent activities within those rooms. So say i open door no. 7 (7th house). In that house i find the 11th lord, so i will find friends through 7th house actvities. Now the mind should start working.. i.e. step c) This means that through the people i marry, or have relationship or business with, i will find friends. This is an unfortunate situation where the friendships are likely to break, when the marriages or business breaks. If 7th lord was in the 12th house, then whenever i goto door no. 12, i will find my spouse! So whenever i go abroad, i find my spouse. If i stay home, then i'm likely never to marry! In this mannor understand the houses and lordships. Best wishesVisti---Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgITRANS Font: http://www.aczone.com/itrans/ - Dr.D.Banerjee sjvc Monday, September 30, 2002 6:07 AM Re: [sjvc] Importance of Adhipatis in predictions.[For kind attention of Visti and Narayan] Hare Rama Krishna----------------------------Dear Sunit,This is a late response to your mail.However, I'll try to write what little I was able to understand.The house lord is the force of a house. It has in it the dynamic power toinfluence the matter of a house it is placed in. When it is placed in someother house, thehouse-lord brings with him the force of the house over which it has thelordship. Now , what force the house-lord carries with him? Well, let ustake an example of a house-lord, say, 6th lord. 6th house represent enemy,opposition, accident , disease,humiliation etc., so the owner of 6th housewill carry with it the forces of enmity, the forces of opposition, theforces of struggle and hostility etc. Imagine what will happen if theseforces start operating in the 7th house ( i.e.when 6th lord is in the 7thhouse ) . 7th house represent the field where the forces of 6th house willbe in action. The field is the matters of the 7th house , i.e. marriage,wife/husband, marietal happiness etc. . So, there will be enmity with wife,the wife may be short tempered and hostile, no marietal happiness etc.In the example you have given , please think in this way. 7th house-lordrepresent the forces of of the 7th house, i.e. partnerships andrelationships, and these forces will act on the fields of the 11th house .Now , think of the matters signified by the 11 th house. These matters willbe influenced by the forces of partnership and relatioship, so , there willbe earnings through wife,or through partners.Think in this way when11th lord is placed in the 7th house. The forces ofgain and mulplicity of 11th house will act in the matters of 7th house ofmarriage partnership etc . So, in this case the wife will be wealthy andshe will gain. The native will gain in foreign land. As the force ofmultiplicity is acting on the 7th house of marriage, the native may marrymore than once. But in these matters of result, the strength of thehouse-lord and his affliction should be kept in mind. As the afflictiongives bad results, the afflicted 11th lord in 7th house may make the nativeindulge in " trading in fleshand similar immoral activity, the native carries on liaisons with women ofill repute." If the 11th lord if unafflicted and fortified , the result willbe very good and "the native marries only once but a rich and influencialwoman."In this way you can easily understand the result of a house-lord placed insome other house.The learned Gurus and members, particularly Visti and Narayan may give somelight on this aspectWith warm regardsDilip Banerjee.- "sunit_mehta2002" <sunit_mehta2002 ><sjvc>Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 2:50 PM[sjvc] Importance of Adhipatis in predictions.> Dear Brother Visti and honoured members,> This is just to comment about the importance of Planetary Lordships> or Adhipatis and the meaning of their being placed in certain houses.> In my learning experience of Jyotish I have found Adhipatis or> lordships explaing a great deal about the meaning and effects of a> house. For example 7th lord in 6th signifies militant partnerships or> marriage, signifying fights and quarrels in marriage or husband being> involved in defence or law. I have found this to be true in a few> charts that I have seen. I feel in deducing the effects of a house> lordship is a very important factor as brother Visti says "Meditate> on what it means to lord a House" There is a lot of meaning into this> and a lot of study involved to understand what is the meaning behind> his words..I am still learning more and more, day by day.> However I would want to know the difference between this :> example:- Ruler of 7th house in 11th and Ruler of 11th in 7th ?> 7th in 11th would show "profits from partnerships" as the lord goes> in the Aya Bhava.> What would ruler of 11th in 7th show ? ....Opportunities through> Partnerships. I'LL leave it to you to answer me on this.> God Bless,> Sunit.>>>>>>> Your use of is subject to >>Your use of is subject to the Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2002 Report Share Posted September 29, 2002 Vyam Vyaasadevaaya Namah Dear Nimmi, That is indeed possible if the 7th lord gave the marriage in its dasa, as it also will ignite the 12th house activities. Otherwise this may not always be so. Best wishesVisti---Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgITRANS Font: http://www.aczone.com/itrans/ - Nimmi Ragavan sjvc Sunday, September 29, 2002 7:06 PM Re: [sjvc] Importance of Adhipatis in predictions.[For kind attention of Visti and Narayan] Dear Visti, When I was young, an astrologer told me that I would either leave the country as soon as I got married or get married to a foreigner. This was based, I think on the 7th ruler in the 12th house. It did come to pass - I left the country within 6 months of marriage. Regards, Nimmi - Visti Larsen sjvc Sunday, September 29, 2002 5:09 PM Re: [sjvc] Importance of Adhipatis in predictions.[For kind attention of Visti and Narayan] Vyam Vyaasadevaaya Namah Dear Dilip, Lovely example. Heres an easy way to understand the results. a) All the houses are like rooms with doors. b) The planets represent activities within those rooms. So say i open door no. 7 (7th house). In that house i find the 11th lord, so i will find friends through 7th house actvities. Now the mind should start working.. i.e. step c) This means that through the people i marry, or have relationship or business with, i will find friends. This is an unfortunate situation where the friendships are likely to break, when the marriages or business breaks. If 7th lord was in the 12th house, then whenever i goto door no. 12, i will find my spouse! So whenever i go abroad, i find my spouse. If i stay home, then i'm likely never to marry! In this mannor understand the houses and lordships. Best wishesVisti---Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgITRANS Font: http://www.aczone.com/itrans/ - Dr.D.Banerjee sjvc Monday, September 30, 2002 6:07 AM Re: [sjvc] Importance of Adhipatis in predictions.[For kind attention of Visti and Narayan] Hare Rama Krishna----------------------------Dear Sunit,This is a late response to your mail.However, I'll try to write what little I was able to understand.The house lord is the force of a house. It has in it the dynamic power toinfluence the matter of a house it is placed in. When it is placed in someother house, thehouse-lord brings with him the force of the house over which it has thelordship. Now , what force the house-lord carries with him? Well, let ustake an example of a house-lord, say, 6th lord. 6th house represent enemy,opposition, accident , disease,humiliation etc., so the owner of 6th housewill carry with it the forces of enmity, the forces of opposition, theforces of struggle and hostility etc. Imagine what will happen if theseforces start operating in the 7th house ( i.e.when 6th lord is in the 7thhouse ) . 7th house represent the field where the forces of 6th house willbe in action. The field is the matters of the 7th house , i.e. marriage,wife/husband, marietal happiness etc. . So, there will be enmity with wife,the wife may be short tempered and hostile, no marietal happiness etc.In the example you have given , please think in this way. 7th house-lordrepresent the forces of of the 7th house, i.e. partnerships andrelationships, and these forces will act on the fields of the 11th house .Now , think of the matters signified by the 11 th house. These matters willbe influenced by the forces of partnership and relatioship, so , there willbe earnings through wife,or through partners.Think in this way when11th lord is placed in the 7th house. The forces ofgain and mulplicity of 11th house will act in the matters of 7th house ofmarriage partnership etc . So, in this case the wife will be wealthy andshe will gain. The native will gain in foreign land. As the force ofmultiplicity is acting on the 7th house of marriage, the native may marrymore than once. But in these matters of result, the strength of thehouse-lord and his affliction should be kept in mind. As the afflictiongives bad results, the afflicted 11th lord in 7th house may make the nativeindulge in " trading in fleshand similar immoral activity, the native carries on liaisons with women ofill repute." If the 11th lord if unafflicted and fortified , the result willbe very good and "the native marries only once but a rich and influencialwoman."In this way you can easily understand the result of a house-lord placed insome other house.The learned Gurus and members, particularly Visti and Narayan may give somelight on this aspectWith warm regardsDilip Banerjee.- "sunit_mehta2002" <sunit_mehta2002 ><sjvc>Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 2:50 PM[sjvc] Importance of Adhipatis in predictions.> Dear Brother Visti and honoured members,> This is just to comment about the importance of Planetary Lordships> or Adhipatis and the meaning of their being placed in certain houses.> In my learning experience of Jyotish I have found Adhipatis or> lordships explaing a great deal about the meaning and effects of a> house. For example 7th lord in 6th signifies militant partnerships or> marriage, signifying fights and quarrels in marriage or husband being> involved in defence or law. I have found this to be true in a few> charts that I have seen. I feel in deducing the effects of a house> lordship is a very important factor as brother Visti says "Meditate> on what it means to lord a House" There is a lot of meaning into this> and a lot of study involved to understand what is the meaning behind> his words..I am still learning more and more, day by day.> However I would want to know the difference between this :> example:- Ruler of 7th house in 11th and Ruler of 11th in 7th ?> 7th in 11th would show "profits from partnerships" as the lord goes> in the Aya Bhava.> What would ruler of 11th in 7th show ? ....Opportunities through> Partnerships. I'LL leave it to you to answer me on this.> God Bless,> Sunit.>>>>>>> Your use of is subject to >>Your use of is subject to the Terms of Service. Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2002 Report Share Posted September 29, 2002 Hare Rama Krishna ---------------------------- Dear Sunit, This is a late response to your mail. However, I'll try to write what little I was able to understand. The house lord is the force of a house. It has in it the dynamic power to influence the matter of a house it is placed in. When it is placed in some other house, the house-lord brings with him the force of the house over which it has the lordship. Now , what force the house-lord carries with him? Well, let us take an example of a house-lord, say, 6th lord. 6th house represent enemy, opposition, accident , disease,humiliation etc., so the owner of 6th house will carry with it the forces of enmity, the forces of opposition, the forces of struggle and hostility etc. Imagine what will happen if these forces start operating in the 7th house ( i.e.when 6th lord is in the 7th house ) . 7th house represent the field where the forces of 6th house will be in action. The field is the matters of the 7th house , i.e. marriage, wife/husband, marietal happiness etc. . So, there will be enmity with wife, the wife may be short tempered and hostile, no marietal happiness etc. In the example you have given , please think in this way. 7th house-lord represent the forces of of the 7th house, i.e. partnerships and relationships, and these forces will act on the fields of the 11th house . Now , think of the matters signified by the 11 th house. These matters will be influenced by the forces of partnership and relatioship, so , there will be earnings through wife,or through partners. Think in this way when11th lord is placed in the 7th house. The forces of gain and mulplicity of 11th house will act in the matters of 7th house of marriage partnership etc . So, in this case the wife will be wealthy and she will gain. The native will gain in foreign land. As the force of multiplicity is acting on the 7th house of marriage, the native may marry more than once. But in these matters of result, the strength of the house-lord and his affliction should be kept in mind. As the affliction gives bad results, the afflicted 11th lord in 7th house may make the native indulge in " trading in flesh and similar immoral activity, the native carries on liaisons with women of ill repute." If the 11th lord if unafflicted and fortified , the result will be very good and "the native marries only once but a rich and influencial woman." In this way you can easily understand the result of a house-lord placed in some other house. The learned Gurus and members, particularly Visti and Narayan may give some light on this aspect With warm regards Dilip Banerjee. - "sunit_mehta2002" <sunit_mehta2002 <sjvc> Tuesday, September 17, 2002 2:50 PM [sjvc] Importance of Adhipatis in predictions. > Dear Brother Visti and honoured members, > This is just to comment about the importance of Planetary Lordships > or Adhipatis and the meaning of their being placed in certain houses. > In my learning experience of Jyotish I have found Adhipatis or > lordships explaing a great deal about the meaning and effects of a > house. For example 7th lord in 6th signifies militant partnerships or > marriage, signifying fights and quarrels in marriage or husband being > involved in defence or law. I have found this to be true in a few > charts that I have seen. I feel in deducing the effects of a house > lordship is a very important factor as brother Visti says "Meditate > on what it means to lord a House" There is a lot of meaning into this > and a lot of study involved to understand what is the meaning behind > his words..I am still learning more and more, day by day. > However I would want to know the difference between this : > example:- Ruler of 7th house in 11th and Ruler of 11th in 7th ? > 7th in 11th would show "profits from partnerships" as the lord goes > in the Aya Bhava. > What would ruler of 11th in 7th show ? ...Opportunities through > Partnerships. I'LL leave it to you to answer me on this. > God Bless, > Sunit. Your use of is subject to > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2002 Report Share Posted September 29, 2002 HARE RAMA KRISHNA ----------------------- Dear Visti, Thank you for giving us the way to understand . Warm regards Dilip. - Visti Larsen sjvc Sunday, September 29, 2002 9:09 AM Re: [sjvc] Importance of Adhipatis in predictions.[For kind attention of Visti and Narayan] Vyam Vyaasadevaaya Namah Dear Dilip, Lovely example. Heres an easy way to understand the results. a) All the houses are like rooms with doors. b) The planets represent activities within those rooms. So say i open door no. 7 (7th house). In that house i find the 11th lord, so i will find friends through 7th house actvities. Now the mind should start working.. i.e. step c) This means that through the people i marry, or have relationship or business with, i will find friends. This is an unfortunate situation where the friendships are likely to break, when the marriages or business breaks. If 7th lord was in the 12th house, then whenever i goto door no. 12, i will find my spouse! So whenever i go abroad, i find my spouse. If i stay home, then i'm likely never to marry! In this mannor understand the houses and lordships. Best wishesVisti---Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgITRANS Font: http://www.aczone.com/itrans/ - Dr.D.Banerjee sjvc Monday, September 30, 2002 6:07 AM Re: [sjvc] Importance of Adhipatis in predictions.[For kind attention of Visti and Narayan] Hare Rama Krishna----------------------------Dear Sunit,This is a late response to your mail.However, I'll try to write what little I was able to understand.The house lord is the force of a house. It has in it the dynamic power toinfluence the matter of a house it is placed in. When it is placed in someother house, thehouse-lord brings with him the force of the house over which it has thelordship. Now , what force the house-lord carries with him? Well, let ustake an example of a house-lord, say, 6th lord. 6th house represent enemy,opposition, accident , disease,humiliation etc., so the owner of 6th housewill carry with it the forces of enmity, the forces of opposition, theforces of struggle and hostility etc. Imagine what will happen if theseforces start operating in the 7th house ( i.e.when 6th lord is in the 7thhouse ) . 7th house represent the field where the forces of 6th house willbe in action. The field is the matters of the 7th house , i.e. marriage,wife/husband, marietal happiness etc. . So, there will be enmity with wife,the wife may be short tempered and hostile, no marietal happiness etc.In the example you have given , please think in this way. 7th house-lordrepresent the forces of of the 7th house, i.e. partnerships andrelationships, and these forces will act on the fields of the 11th house .Now , think of the matters signified by the 11 th house. These matters willbe influenced by the forces of partnership and relatioship, so , there willbe earnings through wife,or through partners.Think in this way when11th lord is placed in the 7th house. The forces ofgain and mulplicity of 11th house will act in the matters of 7th house ofmarriage partnership etc . So, in this case the wife will be wealthy andshe will gain. The native will gain in foreign land. As the force ofmultiplicity is acting on the 7th house of marriage, the native may marrymore than once. But in these matters of result, the strength of thehouse-lord and his affliction should be kept in mind. As the afflictiongives bad results, the afflicted 11th lord in 7th house may make the nativeindulge in " trading in fleshand similar immoral activity, the native carries on liaisons with women ofill repute." If the 11th lord if unafflicted and fortified , the result willbe very good and "the native marries only once but a rich and influencialwoman."In this way you can easily understand the result of a house-lord placed insome other house.The learned Gurus and members, particularly Visti and Narayan may give somelight on this aspectWith warm regardsDilip Banerjee.- "sunit_mehta2002" <sunit_mehta2002 ><sjvc>Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 2:50 PM[sjvc] Importance of Adhipatis in predictions.> Dear Brother Visti and honoured members,> This is just to comment about the importance of Planetary Lordships> or Adhipatis and the meaning of their being placed in certain houses.> In my learning experience of Jyotish I have found Adhipatis or> lordships explaing a great deal about the meaning and effects of a> house. For example 7th lord in 6th signifies militant partnerships or> marriage, signifying fights and quarrels in marriage or husband being> involved in defence or law. I have found this to be true in a few> charts that I have seen. I feel in deducing the effects of a house> lordship is a very important factor as brother Visti says "Meditate> on what it means to lord a House" There is a lot of meaning into this> and a lot of study involved to understand what is the meaning behind> his words..I am still learning more and more, day by day.> However I would want to know the difference between this :> example:- Ruler of 7th house in 11th and Ruler of 11th in 7th ?> 7th in 11th would show "profits from partnerships" as the lord goes> in the Aya Bhava.> What would ruler of 11th in 7th show ? ....Opportunities through> Partnerships. I'LL leave it to you to answer me on this.> God Bless,> Sunit.>>>>>>> Your use of is subject to >>Your use of is subject to the Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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