Lord of the 7th House

September 22, 2002

Dear Jagmeetji and Group members,

I have been following the recent discussion on a case of marital

problems.

I would be very honored to discuss another case of marital problems.

The husband has the Lord of the 7th House Mercury in the 7th House

and is exalted and is aspected by Venus which is not malefic. This

should give him a very happy married life. But his experience has

been very different. It has always seemed that the marriage will not

last but it has lasted for over 13 years. Is it because the 7th house

is aspected by Rahu?

Or is it because in the Wife's chart Mars, the Lagn Lord, is in the

8th House. Also Saturn is in 6th house which is 12th from the 7th.

Lord of the 6th Mars is also aspecting it. Can this cause a loss of

this marriage?

The Birth Details are:

Husband:-

July 26, 1967

17:55

30n21, 76e50, India

Wife:-

June 29, 1970

17:15

28n12, 75e32, India

Date of Marriage: Feb 15, 1989

Thanks,

Shiv

September 22, 2002

Dear Shiv Ji,

Please find attached the two charts.

WIFE

Natal Chart

June 29, 1970

Time: 17:15:28

Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

Longitude: 75 E 32' 00"

Latitude: 28 N 12' 00"

Altitude: 0.00 meters

Lunar Year: Sadharana

Lunar Month: Jyeshtha

Tithi: Krishna Ekadasi (4.01% left)

Weekday: Monday

Nakshatra: Bharani (9.56% left)

Yoga: Dhriti

Karana: Balava

Hora Lord: Mars

Sunrise: 5:34:01

Sunset: 19:27:55

Janma Ghatis: 29.2272

Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa ChKarak

Lagna 15 Sc 00' 18.47" Anuradha 4 Sc Sc -

Sun 13 Ge 52' 20.56" Aardra 3 Ge Aq PK

Moon 25 Ar 23' 29.68" Bharani 4 Ar Sc AmK

Mars 24 Ge 24' 13.87" Punarvasu 2 Ge Ta BK

Mercury 4 Ge 56' 02.19" Mrigasira 4 Ge Sc GK

Jupiter 2 Li 40' 46.99" Chitra 3 Li Li DK

Venus 21 Cn 30' 51.76" Aasresha 2 Cn Cp MK

Saturn 25 Ar 31' 11.12" Bharani 4 Ar Sc AK

Rahu 12 Aq 20' 09.76" Satabhisham 2 Aq Cp PiK

Ketu 12 Le 20' 09.76" Makha 4 Le Cn -

Uranus 11 Vi 20' 22.43" Hastha 1 Vi Ar -

Neptune ® 5 Sc 06' 16.93" Anuradha 1 Sc Le -

Pluto 1 Vi 23' 29.48" U.Pha. 2 Vi Cp -

Bhava Lagna 8 Sg 46' 14.77" Moola 3 Sg Ge -

Hora Lagna 4 Ge 08' 01.48" Mrigasira 4 Ge Sc -

Ghati Lagna 20 Sc 13' 21.64" Jyeshtha 2 Sc Cp -

Vighati Lagna 10 Pi 40' 02.41" U.Bhaa. 3 Pi Li -

Pranapada Lagna 11 Cn 07' 54.93" Pushyami 3 Cn Li -

Sree Lagna 10 Li 34' 39.87" Swathi 2 Li Cp -

Indu Lagna 25 Ta 23' 29.68" Mrigasira 1 Ta Le -

Kunda 15 Sc 24' 56.09" Anuradha 4 Sc Sc -

Dhooma 27 Li 12' 20.56" Visakha 3 Li Ge -

Vyatipata 2 Vi 47' 39.44" U.Pha. 2 Vi Cp -

Parivesha 2 Pi 47' 39.44" Poo.Bhaa. 4 Pi Cn -

Indra Chapa 27 Ar 12' 20.56" Krittika 1 Ar Sg -

Upaketu 13 Ta 52' 20.56" Rohini 2 Ta Ta -

Kaala 2 Sg 40' 31.60" Moola 1 Sg Ar -

Mrityu 16 Cn 24' 36.72" Pushyami 4 Cn Sc -

Artha Prahara 8 Le 53' 14.71" Makha 3 Le Ge -

Yama Ghantaka 1 Vi 49' 54.43" U.Pha. 2 Vi Cp -

Maandi 17 Li 33' 49.37" Swathi 4 Li Pi -

Gulika 6 Li 17' 29.09" Chitra 4 Li Sc -

Varnada Lagna 19 Cp 08' 19.95" Sravanam 3 Cp Ge -

Rasi

+--------------+

| \ / \ Mnd Glk / |

| \ / \ Jup / |

| \ / \ / |

| \ / GL \ / |

| \ / \ / |

|AL x Asc x |

| / \ / \ |

| / \ 8 / \ |

| / \ / \ |

| Rah x Ket |

| \ / \ / |

| x x Ven |

| / \ / \ |

| / \ / HL \ |

| / Moo \ / Sun \ |

| / Sat \ / Mar Mer \ |

+--------------+

Navamsa

+--------------+

| \ / \ / |

| \ / \ Jup / |

| \ / \ / |

| \ / Moo \ / |

|GL \ / Glk \ / |

|Ven Rah x Sat Asc HL x |

| / \ / \ |

| / \ Mer / \ |

| / \ / \ |

| / \ 8 / \ |

| / \ / \ |

| Sun x AL |

| \ / \ / |

|Mnd x Mar x Ket |

| / \ / \ |

+--------------+

Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon):

Ven Ven 1952-08-31 Sun 1955-12-14 Moo 1956-12-08

Mar 1958-07-31 Rah 1959-09-24 Jup 1962-09-08

Sat 1965-04-25 Mer 1968-06-08 Ket 1971-03-25

Sun Sun 1972-05-18 Moo 1972-09-03 Mar 1973-03-02

Rah 1973-07-06 Jup 1974-05-26 Sat 1975-03-10

Mer 1976-02-15 Ket 1976-12-17 Ven 1977-04-22

Moo Moo 1978-04-17 Mar 1979-02-11 Rah 1979-09-09

Jup 1981-03-02 Sat 1982-06-25 Mer 1984-01-16

Ket 1985-06-09 Ven 1986-01-05 Sun 1987-08-28

Mar Mar 1988-02-24 Rah 1988-07-20 Jup 1989-08-02

Sat 1990-07-04 Mer 1991-08-07 Ket 1992-07-29

Ven 1992-12-23 Sun 1994-02-16 Moo 1994-06-22

Rah Rah 1995-01-18 Jup 1997-09-16 Sat 2000-01-28

Mer 2002-11-19 Ket 2005-05-25 Ven 2006-06-07

Sun 2009-05-22 Moo 2010-04-11 Mar 2011-10-03

HUSBAND

Natal Chart

July 26, 1967

Time: 17:55:28

Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

Longitude: 76 E 50' 00"

Latitude: 30 N 21' 00"

Altitude: 0.00 meters

Lunar Year: Plavanga

Lunar Month: Ashadha

Tithi: Krishna Panchami (21.86% left)

Weekday: Wednesday

Nakshatra: U.Bhaa. (73.91% left)

Yoga: Atiganda

Karana: Taitula

Hora Lord: Mars

Sunrise: 5:36:55

Sunset: 19:19:57

Janma Ghatis: 30.7732

Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa ChKarak

Lagna 17 Sg 57' 20.82" Poo.Shaa. 2 Sg Vi -

Sun 9 Cn 26' 07.25" Pushyami 2 Cn Vi GK

Moon 6 Pi 48' 44.07" U.Bhaa. 2 Pi Vi DK

Mars 9 Li 49' 05.07" Swathi 1 Li Sg PK

Mercury 20 Ge 35' 24.22" Punarvasu 1 Ge Ar AmK

Jupiter 19 Cn 13' 28.84" Aasresha 1 Cn Sg BK

Venus 17 Le 31' 25.92" Poo.Pha. 2 Le Vi PiK

Saturn ® 19 Pi 03' 33.72" Revathi 1 Pi Sg MK

Rahu 8 Ar 59' 00.41" Aswini 3 Ar Ge AK

Ketu 8 Li 59' 00.41" Swathi 1 Li Sg -

Uranus 28 Le 19' 44.66" U.Pha. 1 Le Sg -

Neptune ® 28 Li 11' 48.72" Visakha 3 Li Ge -

Pluto 25 Le 24' 24.71" Poo.Pha. 4 Le Sc -

Bhava Lagna 13 Cp 35' 04.91" Sravanam 2 Cp Ta -

Hora Lagna 18 Cn 13' 26.15" Aasresha 1 Cn Sg -

Ghati Lagna 2 Aq 08' 29.86" Dhanishtha 3 Aq Li -

Vighati Lagna 11 Li 43' 48.42" Swathi 2 Li Cp -

Pranapada Lagna 12 Li 13' 11.99" Swathi 2 Li Cp -

Sree Lagna 21 Pi 53' 10.71" Revathi 2 Pi Cp -

Indu Lagna 6 Aq 48' 44.07" Satabhisham 1 Aq Sg -

Kunda 14 Ar 25' 06.03" Bharani 1 Ar Le -

Dhooma 22 Sc 46' 07.25" Jyeshtha 2 Sc Cp -

Vyatipata 7 Le 13' 52.75" Makha 3 Le Ge -

Parivesha 7 Aq 13' 52.75" Satabhisham 1 Aq Sg -

Indra Chapa 22 Ta 46' 07.25" Rohini 4 Ta Cn -

Upaketu 9 Ge 26' 07.25" Aardra 1 Ge Sg -

Kaala 9 Sc 17' 23.18" Anuradha 2 Sc Vi -

Mrityu 26 Sg 17' 26.37" Poo.Shaa. 4 Sg Sc -

Artha Prahara 18 Cn 58' 11.00" Aasresha 1 Cn Sg -

Yama Ghantaka 10 Le 51' 59.54" Makha 4 Le Cn -

Maandi 25 Vi 31' 31.68" Chitra 1 Vi Le -

Gulika 14 Vi 21' 52.13" Hastha 2 Vi Ta -

Varnada Lagna 6 Ar 10' 46.96" Aswini 2 Ar Ta -

Rasi

+--------------+

| \ / \ / |

|GL AL x Asc x Ket Mar |

| / \ / \ |

| / SatR \ 9 / Glk \ |

| / \ / \ |

| Moo x Mnd |

| \ / \ / |

|Rah x Mer x Ven |

| / \ / \ |

| / \ / Sun \ |

| / \ / Jup HL \ |

+--------------+

Navamsa

+--------------+

| \ / \ / |

| \ GL / \ Mnd / |

| \ / \ / |

| \ / Sun \ / |

| \ / \ / |

|AL x Ven Asc x |

| / \ / \ |

| / \ Moo / \ |

| / \ / \ |

| / Jup \ 6 / \ |

| / \ / \ |

| Ket Mar HL x Rah |

| \ / \ / |

| \ SatR / \ / |

| \ / \ / |

| x x Glk |

| / \ / \ |

| / \ / Mer \ |

| / \ / \ |

+--------------+

Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon):

Sat Sat 1962-09-06 Mer 1965-08-24 Ket 1968-04-19

Ven 1969-05-23 Sun 1972-07-06 Moo 1973-06-13

Mar 1975-01-04 Rah 1976-02-07 Jup 1978-11-29

Mer Mer 1981-05-29 Ket 1983-10-13 Ven 1984-10-04

Sun 1987-07-21 Moo 1988-05-22 Mar 1989-10-14

Rah 1990-10-06 Jup 1993-04-11 Sat 1995-07-06

Ket Ket 1998-03-01 Ven 1998-07-26 Sun 1999-09-19

Moo 2000-01-23 Mar 2000-08-20 Rah 2001-01-14

Jup 2002-01-27 Sat 2002-12-29 Mer 2004-02-01

Ven Ven 2005-01-23 Sun 2008-05-07 Moo 2009-05-02

Mar 2010-12-23 Rah 2012-02-16 Jup 2015-01-31

Sat 2017-09-17 Mer 2020-10-31 Ket 2023-08-17

One of the most important thing which I have noticed in the charts is that two

Lagnas/suns/moon/venus are all in 2/12 rashis.

There is Papakartari yoga around 7th house in both charts though wife's is

stronger with neecha saturn which is her atmakarka indicating she has to learn

lot of lessons.With kalchakra dasa of aries about to start in dec 2002 there can

be fireworks.

Wife has vargottam lagna,which is good but can make a person stubborn and

mercurial in behaviour specially with scorpio lagna and

sat/mer/moon/ketu/rahu/venus/Gulika aspecting /conjoined the lagna would

indicate a person always wanting to have her/his way.

Venus,rahu and UL together in capricron in navamsha is again bad.

AL/UL and A7 in both the charts(rashi and navamsha)with 6/8 positions and also

afflicted does indicate lot of strife in married life.

I feel the two parties should fast on wednesday for husband and saturday for

wife and praying to the ista devata of laxmi and sadashiva respectively will

help them in fulfilling their dharma.

The learned members may correct me.

With regards,

Jagmeet

September 22, 2002

Dear Shiv,

You'd feel "honored" if another case of marital problems are discussed? Well...

Someone has told you that Merc gets exalted in Gemini; it does so in Virgo

instead. Also, the significations of your 7th house in D-1 are negated because

Merc happens to be there, and it is the marana sthana for him. I can neither

agree that Venus from Leo can aspect Merc in Gemini, nor that Venus isn't a

malefic for Sagittarians.

The longevity of a marriage is to be reckoned from the 2nd from UL. In your

chart, that house has Mars and Ketu. In your wife's chart, that house has Rahu,

with its dispositor Sat being deb and conjunct with Moon. In both charts, that

house is aspected by Venus, the natural karaka for love.

I don't know astro well enough to predict whether or not the marriage will

derail. In any case, your wife can help matters by fasting on Thursdays and not

forgetting to worship Sambashiv.

Warm regards,

Ramapriya

hubli (AT) vsnl (DOT) com

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shivkulhari

sjvc

Monday, September 23, 2002 2:54 AM

[sjvc] Lord of the 7th House

Dear Jagmeetji and Group members,I have been following the recent discussion on

a case of marital problems.I would be very honored to discuss another case of

marital problems.The husband has the Lord of the 7th House Mercury in the 7th

House and is exalted and is aspected by Venus which is not malefic. This should

give him a very happy married life. But his experience has been very different.

It has always seemed that the marriage will not last but it has lasted for over

13 years. Is it because the 7th house is aspected by Rahu?Or is it because in

the Wife's chart Mars, the Lagn Lord, is in the 8th House. Also Saturn is in

6th house which is 12th from the 7th. Lord of the 6th Mars is also aspecting

it. Can this cause a loss of this marriage?The Birth Details are:Husband:-July

26, 196717:5530n21, 76e50, IndiaWife:-June 29, 197017:1528n12, 75e32, IndiaDate

of Marriage: Feb 15, 1989Thanks,Shiv

September 22, 2002

Om Gurave Namah

Dear Learned members and Guru's

Here is my attempt in the analysis of the charts relating to marital problems.

The charts are attached.

Husband

Saggi lagna rises with 7th lord mercury in the 7th itself. A few observations to

what Rama has already pointed out.

For saggi lagna, mercury is the badhakesh placed in the 7th and thus creating

troubles in married life.

Apart from saturn, moon who is the 8th lord aspects the 7th and it;s lord.

UL falls in Virgo who is aspected by badhakesh mercury, saturn and moon. The

badhakesh for UL (in virgo) is mercury again!

The 2nd from UL has mars and ketu. Though ketu is welcome in the 2nd from UL,

showing that the path to dhamra is shown by the spouse, the presence of mars in

the 2nd from UL always points to arguments. Plus for UL in virgo, mars is a

malefic as he owns 3rd and 8th!.

The presence of Al and UL in 6-8 positions means that the native will ignore his wife.

UL and A7are in mutual quadrants and darakaraka moon in A7 shows physical

attraction was the strong focus in the relationship.

8th from UL not only has the aspect of mars, but also has the nodal axis!!!

The lord of 7th in Navamsa has the nodal axis along with mars and saturn.

He is running Vi-Ar till 2003-Jan. Narayana dasa starts from the 7th and hence

the results will be akin to Pi. Pi has A7. Pi is also the 7th from UL which has

saturn and moon in it. Planets in the 7th and 12th from UL show the relatives

who will create problems in married life. Here it indicates problems from

Mother-in-law (moon), Elderly people in the family(saturn) and

venus(sister-in-laws i assume). The narayana dasa in operation i.e. Vi-Ar

giving results like Pi could be activating these problems. The Antar dasa is

that of Ar which is the 8th from UL. The problems would continue even during Ta

antar dasa as Ta lord venus is the 6th and 11th from lagna and is placed in the

7th from AL and 12th from UL. Female members in the family will create problems

(sister-in-laws).

The remedial measure would be two fold apart from worshiping the Ista devata Lakshmi

a) fasting on Wednesdayb) reciting of the mantra conducive to the 2nd house from

UL. i am sure guru's here will help regarding this.

Wife

The lord of the 7th venus is placed in the 9th in a compassionate sign. But the

8th from lagna is afflicted by mars and aspected by rahu.

UL lord saturn who is debilitated could point to the native who has come from a

relatively less rich family. 2nd from UL has rahu, aspected by venus, the 7th

lord, saturn and moon.

Relatively when compared to the husbands chart, the placement of UL and AL

together is a good feature and in trines to A7.

The Narayana dasa currently in progress for her is Sc-Aq till 2002-12-29.

Narayana dasa starts from the 7th house and hence the results of Sc will be

that of Ta. Ta is the 7th house, it;s lord placed in the 9th receiving aspect

from Rahu who himself is placed in the 2nd from UL. The antar dasa is that of

Aq who has again Rahu placed in the 2nd from UL!. Aq with rahu has the rasi

aspect of debilitated UL lord saturn and moon. The darakaraka Jupiter gives

graha drishti on Rahu!. This is a good indication as jupiter will desire to

protect the 2nd from UL.

Remedial measures

1. Fasting on Saturdays.2. Mantra conducive to the 2nd from UL that is Aquarius.

3. Ista devata Sambha Siva as rama has already mentioned.

I will be obliged if learned members and guru's correct me.

Regds

Hari

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Ramapriya D

sjvc

Monday, September 23, 2002 7:58 AM

Re: [sjvc] Lord of the 7th House