Guest guest Posted August 26, 2002 Report Share Posted August 26, 2002 Namaste Gurudeva, I would like to put forth the following problem regarding progeny . Of course the following birth data is mine . I was born on early hours of May 9th ,1979 at 00:11 hrs at Anakapalle , 17N41, 83E03 . In my horoscope 5th & 10th lord Venus is exalted in 3rd in Pisces . Jupiter who is placed in Cancer aspects exalted Venus through his 9th aspect . On the other hand , According to Mantreswara ,the author of "Phala Deepika" ,the chances are progeny are to be determined by so called Beeja Sphuta (for males) & Progeny tithi-Karana . This was also explained by Sri Iranganti Rangacharya in Bangalore's Astrological Magazine . In my horoscope the calculated Beeja sphuta falls in even Sign and in even Navamsa . The calculated Progeny sphuta falls in 14th day of dark lunar half & Karana is Vishti . Tithi is Chidra tithi and Karana though Chara but it is Bhadra . In every aspect the chances of progeny is nil according to Rangacharya. Well, my analysis may have subjective apprehensions because the chart concerned is my own .But in saptamsa also fifth house falls in Papakartari yoga . I would like to put forth this because it may be interesting to research scholors who are dealing these cases. My chart can be freely used for their research purpose . Kindly enlighten me in this regard if my query merits answer and remember I am still unmarried. remains Shanmukha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2002 Report Share Posted August 26, 2002 Vyam Vyasaadevaaya Namah Dear Shanmukha, This group is still not ripe for going into the intricacies of progeny, and definitely not for chart analysis, of that expected by some who post their charts here. THIS IS A GROUP OF LEARNING. But let me teach you something which has todo with delianating progeny. To be able to give birth to children, one should be able to concieve them. Conception is ruled by the 3rd house, and the Arudhas of the 3rd and 9th houses, rule the physical ability to concieve. If these Arudhas are placed in 6th/8th or 2nd/12th from Sun, then theres a physical problem with concieving. This happens in your chart. The remedy is to see the doctor, as there maybe a blockaage in the fallopian tube. Best wishes, Visti. - teli_sha2002 sjvc Monday, August 26, 2002 1:56 PM [sjvc] progeny Namaste Gurudeva,I would like to put forth the following problem regarding progeny . Of course the following birth data is mine . I was born on early hours of May 9th ,1979 at 00:11 hrs at Anakapalle , 17N41, 83E03 . In my horoscope 5th & 10th lord Venus is exalted in 3rd in Pisces . Jupiter who is placed in Cancer aspects exalted Venus through his 9th aspect .On the other hand , According to Mantreswara ,the author of "Phala Deepika" ,the chances are progeny are to be determined by so called Beeja Sphuta (for males) & Progeny tithi-Karana . This was also explained by Sri Iranganti Rangacharya in Bangalore's Astrological Magazine . In my horoscope the calculated Beeja sphuta falls in even Sign and in even Navamsa . The calculated Progeny sphuta falls in 14th day of dark lunar half & Karana is Vishti . Tithi is Chidra tithi and Karana though Chara but it is Bhadra . In every aspect the chances of progeny is nil according to Rangacharya.Well, my analysis may have subjective apprehensions because the chart concerned is my own .But in saptamsa also fifth house falls in Papakartari yoga . I would like to put forth this because it may be interesting to research scholors who are dealing these cases. My chart can be freely used for their research purpose . Kindly enlighten me in this regard if my query merits answer and remember I am still unmarried.remainsShanmukha Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2002 Report Share Posted August 26, 2002 Om Namah Sivaya, Dear Visti and Sanmukha, All the groups are meant for learning and hence this is no different. Having curiousity is always good as thats the basic driver for any learning. Thats only makes one OBSERVANT. Hope you agree.... Sanmukha has given a method where we determine the Beeja and Kshetra sphuta for Males and Females and find out the potential to bear a child or procreate. BV RAMAN has used them extensively and you can find them BV RAMAN's How to Judge an Horoscope. However, the method adviced by Jaimini Maharishi is to consider from 3rd house arudha (Vikramapada) and 9th house arudha (Gurupada) from Lagna and Sun. Sun, Venus and Mercury's placement are seen from them to prognosticate the potential of projeny which is again confirmed from Saptamsa. I am not giving here any Sutras, however, I would like anyone to answer why Arudhas of 3rd and 9th is taken? Why from Lagna and Sun and not Moon?, Why Sun, Venus and Mercury's placement is seen? Once these are answered, understanding progeny is a child's play! Pranaam Sarajit On Mon, 26 Aug 2002 Visti Larsen wrote : >Vyam Vyasaadevaaya Namah > >-\ - > >Dear Shanmukha, >This group is still not ripe for going into the intricacies of >progeny, and definitely not for chart analysis, of that expected >by some who post their charts here. THIS IS A GROUP OF >LEARNING. > >But let me teach you something which has todo with delianating >progeny. >To be able to give birth to children, one should be able to >concieve them. >Conception is ruled by the 3rd house, and the Arudhas of the 3rd >and 9th houses, rule the physical ability to concieve. > >If these Arudhas are placed in 6th/8th or 2nd/12th from Sun, then >theres a physical problem with concieving. > >This happens in your chart. The remedy is to see the doctor, as >there maybe a blockaage in the fallopian tube. > >Best wishes, Visti. > - > teli_sha2002 > sjvc > Monday, August 26, 2002 1:56 PM > [sjvc] progeny > > > Namaste Gurudeva, > > I would like to put forth the following problem regarding >progeny . > Of course the following birth data is mine . I was born on >early > hours of May 9th ,1979 at 00:11 hrs at Anakapalle , 17N41, >83E03 . In > my horoscope 5th & 10th lord Venus is exalted in 3rd in Pisces >. > Jupiter who is placed in Cancer aspects exalted Venus through >his 9th > aspect . > On the other hand , According to Mantreswara ,the author of >"Phala > Deepika" ,the chances are progeny are to be determined by so >called > Beeja Sphuta (for males) & Progeny tithi-Karana . This was >also > explained by Sri Iranganti Rangacharya in Bangalore's >Astrological > Magazine . In my horoscope the calculated Beeja sphuta falls >in even > Sign and in even Navamsa . The calculated Progeny sphuta falls >in > 14th day of dark lunar half & Karana is Vishti . Tithi is >Chidra > tithi and Karana though Chara but it is Bhadra . In every >aspect the > chances of progeny is nil according to Rangacharya. > > Well, my analysis may have subjective apprehensions because >the > chart concerned is my own .But in saptamsa also fifth house >falls in > Papakartari yoga . > I would like to put forth this because it may be >interesting to > research scholors who are dealing these cases. My chart can be >freely > used for their research purpose . > Kindly enlighten me in this regard if my query merits >answer and > remember I am still unmarried. > > remains > Shanmukha > > > Sponsor > > > > > Terms of >Service. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2002 Report Share Posted August 27, 2002 Dear Sarajit, Visti, Sanmukha and others, The arudha and surya arudha padas of the 3rd and the 9th houses are seen to determine (1) the physical ability to procreate and (2) and the ability to carry an atma or a soul. The conjunction of venus and mercury with these padas causes denial of progeny. The sun is the atma and hence the ability to carry a soul is seen from the surya arudha padas of the 3rd and the 9th houses. The conjunction of venus and mercury in the AS3 and AS9 will close all doors for the possibility of having children...for without an atma, there can be no birth. If AS3 and AS9 are positive and the conjunction of venus and mercury occurs only in the A3 and A9, then with timely and appropriate medical intervention, conception is possible. I do have a few questions: 1. 9th house is the natural house of father, but why 3rd house? 2. Mercury causing denial of progeny is understandable, but why venus? Venus shows the ability to carry semen and is a jala tatva planet, which should point towards conception. Why is it contributing to denial? 3. The moon creates/gives the physical body. Why doesn't it have a role to play in this? Sarbani Sarajit Poddar wrote: > Om Namah Sivaya, > Dear Visti and Sanmukha, > > All the groups are meant for learning and hence this is no > different. Having curiousity is always good as thats the basic > driver for any learning. Thats only makes one OBSERVANT. Hope you > agree.... > > Sanmukha has given a method where we determine the Beeja and > Kshetra sphuta for Males and Females and find out the potential to > bear a child or procreate. BV RAMAN has used them extensively and > you can find them BV RAMAN's How to Judge an Horoscope. > > However, the method adviced by Jaimini Maharishi is to consider > from 3rd house arudha (Vikramapada) and 9th house arudha > (Gurupada) from Lagna and Sun. Sun, Venus and Mercury's placement > are seen from them to prognosticate the potential of projeny which > is again confirmed from Saptamsa. I am not giving here any Sutras, > however, I would like anyone to answer why Arudhas of 3rd and 9th > is taken? Why from Lagna and Sun and not Moon?, Why Sun, Venus and > Mercury's placement is seen? > > Once these are answered, understanding progeny is a child's > play! > > Pranaam > Sarajit > > On Mon, 26 Aug 2002 Visti Larsen wrote : > >Vyam Vyasaadevaaya Namah > > > >-\ - > > > >Dear Shanmukha, > >This group is still not ripe for going into the intricacies of > >progeny, and definitely not for chart analysis, of that expected > >by some who post their charts here. THIS IS A GROUP OF > >LEARNING. > > > >But let me teach you something which has todo with delianating > >progeny. > >To be able to give birth to children, one should be able to > >concieve them. > >Conception is ruled by the 3rd house, and the Arudhas of the 3rd > >and 9th houses, rule the physical ability to concieve. > > > >If these Arudhas are placed in 6th/8th or 2nd/12th from Sun, then > >theres a physical problem with concieving. > > > >This happens in your chart. The remedy is to see the doctor, as > >there maybe a blockaage in the fallopian tube. > > > >Best wishes, Visti. > > - > > teli_sha2002 > > sjvc > > Monday, August 26, 2002 1:56 PM > > [sjvc] progeny > > > > > > Namaste Gurudeva, > > > > I would like to put forth the following problem regarding > >progeny . > > Of course the following birth data is mine . I was born on > >early > > hours of May 9th ,1979 at 00:11 hrs at Anakapalle , 17N41, > >83E03 . In > > my horoscope 5th & 10th lord Venus is exalted in 3rd in Pisces > >. > > Jupiter who is placed in Cancer aspects exalted Venus through > >his 9th > > aspect . > > On the other hand , According to Mantreswara ,the author of > >"Phala > > Deepika" ,the chances are progeny are to be determined by so > >called > > Beeja Sphuta (for males) & Progeny tithi-Karana . This was > >also > > explained by Sri Iranganti Rangacharya in Bangalore's > >Astrological > > Magazine . In my horoscope the calculated Beeja sphuta falls > >in even > > Sign and in even Navamsa . The calculated Progeny sphuta falls > >in > > 14th day of dark lunar half & Karana is Vishti . Tithi is > >Chidra > > tithi and Karana though Chara but it is Bhadra . In every > >aspect the > > chances of progeny is nil according to Rangacharya. > > > > Well, my analysis may have subjective apprehensions because > >the > > chart concerned is my own .But in saptamsa also fifth house > >falls in > > Papakartari yoga . > > I would like to put forth this because it may be > >interesting to > > research scholors who are dealing these cases. My chart can be > >freely > > used for their research purpose . > > Kindly enlighten me in this regard if my query merits > >answer and > > remember I am still unmarried. > > > > remains > > Shanmukha > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > Terms of > >Service. > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2002 Report Share Posted August 28, 2002 Aum Namah Sivaya Dear Sarbani, The questions here can be more fundamental: 1. Why the arudha padas? 2. Why of the two houses 3rd and the 9th? Why the house of progeny, the 5th is left out? 3. Why from Lagna and the Sun? Then comes the other questions put forward by you... Let me try to answer some these fundamental questions. This might give some cues to think. 3rd is the house of Vikrama or Courage. The courage can be interpreted as the physical tolerance, that is required for procreation. Never ignore the union which happens for procreation. Now this can also give us an clue, why the 3rd house of natural zodiac is mithuna or sign of copulation. Only physical action can't bring the the Soul to this earth. The womb should be pure to carry the divine fruit. The desire of the action shown by the 3rd house is fulfilled by the 9th house which is the house of Dharma. Hence the 7th (desires) from the 3rd becomes the 9th, which has the responsibility to fulfill the desires of the 3rd. Moreover, the same 9th house also show the dharma of a person to continue his lineage. Hence the 3rd and 9th houses are involved. Now why the arudhas. This is because we are seeing the procreative ability of a human in this birth. We are not considering the eternal soul over here. I hope someone can give a better answer to this!!!! As Visti and Sarbani has pointed out the Arudhas from the Lagna is checked to see the procreative ability of the physical body, whereas that from the Sun is seen for the ability of the Soul to bring a new soul to this world. I will answer the other part latter. I shall try answering some of the questions asked by Sarbani. 1. 9th house is the natural house of father, but why 3rd house? Sarajit: Already answered 2. Mercury causing denial of progeny is understandable, but why venus? Venus shows the ability to carry semen and is a jala tatva planet, which should point towards conception. Why is it contributing to denial? Sarajit: I hope you said Mercury shows denial becuase Mercury is a Eunuch planet! Any other reason? Venus shows denial as Venus shows selfishness and copetetion. Venus represent sperms and this is known that millions of sperms compete with each other to fertilize the Ovum. This each of these sperms will try to prohibit others to fertilise and hence the problem in procreation. This is a clear case of pulling the legs of someone who is in the verge of achieving by someone who can't!!! The feeling of "If I am not successful, I won't let you succeed. 3. The moon creates/gives the physical body. Why doesn't it have a role to play in this? Sarajit: Only when the birth has taken place, Moon becomes important. Before that Sun keeps the reins in its hands. Hence for procreation even though both are important, Sun is the most important. When we go into more details of the Conceptions et. al. we shall see the importance of the Moon. Regards Sarajit On Tue, 27 Aug 2002 Sarbani Sarkar wrote : >Dear Sarajit, Visti, Sanmukha and others, > >The arudha and surya arudha padas of the 3rd and the 9th houses >are seen to determine >(1) the physical ability to procreate and (2) and the ability to >carry an atma or a >soul. The conjunction of venus and mercury with these padas >causes denial of progeny. >The sun is the atma and hence the ability to carry a soul is >seen from the surya >arudha padas of the 3rd and the 9th houses. The conjunction of >venus and mercury in >the AS3 and AS9 will close all doors for the possibility of >having children...for >without an atma, there can be no birth. If AS3 and AS9 are >positive and the >conjunction of venus and mercury occurs only in the A3 and A9, >then with timely and >appropriate medical intervention, conception is possible. I do >have a few questions: >1. 9th house is the natural house of father, but why 3rd house? >2. Mercury causing denial of progeny is understandable, but why >venus? Venus shows >the ability to carry semen and is a jala tatva planet, which >should point towards >conception. Why is it contributing to denial? >3. The moon creates/gives the physical body. Why doesn't it have >a role to play in >this? > >Sarbani > >Sarajit Poddar wrote: > > > Om Namah Sivaya, > > Dear Visti and Sanmukha, > > > > All the groups are meant for learning and hence this is no > > different. Having curiousity is always good as thats the >basic > > driver for any learning. Thats only makes one OBSERVANT. Hope >you > > agree.... > > > > Sanmukha has given a method where we determine the Beeja and > > Kshetra sphuta for Males and Females and find out the >potential to > > bear a child or procreate. BV RAMAN has used them extensively >and > > you can find them BV RAMAN's How to Judge an Horoscope. > > > > However, the method adviced by Jaimini Maharishi is to >consider > > from 3rd house arudha (Vikramapada) and 9th house arudha > > (Gurupada) from Lagna and Sun. Sun, Venus and Mercury's >placement > > are seen from them to prognosticate the potential of projeny >which > > is again confirmed from Saptamsa. I am not giving here any >Sutras, > > however, I would like anyone to answer why Arudhas of 3rd and >9th > > is taken? Why from Lagna and Sun and not Moon?, Why Sun, Venus >and > > Mercury's placement is seen? > > > > Once these are answered, understanding progeny is a child's > > play! > > > > Pranaam > > Sarajit > > > > On Mon, 26 Aug 2002 Visti Larsen wrote : > > >Vyam Vyasaadevaaya Namah > > > > > > >-\ - > > > > > >Dear Shanmukha, > > >This group is still not ripe for going into the intricacies >of > > >progeny, and definitely not for chart analysis, of that >expected > > >by some who post their charts here. THIS IS A GROUP OF > > >LEARNING. > > > > > >But let me teach you something which has todo with >delianating > > >progeny. > > >To be able to give birth to children, one should be able to > > >concieve them. > > >Conception is ruled by the 3rd house, and the Arudhas of the >3rd > > >and 9th houses, rule the physical ability to concieve. > > > > > >If these Arudhas are placed in 6th/8th or 2nd/12th from Sun, >then > > >theres a physical problem with concieving. > > > > > >This happens in your chart. The remedy is to see the doctor, >as > > >there maybe a blockaage in the fallopian tube. > > > > > >Best wishes, Visti. > > > - > > > teli_sha2002 > > > sjvc > > > Monday, August 26, 2002 1:56 PM > > > [sjvc] progeny > > > > > > > > > Namaste Gurudeva, > > > > > > I would like to put forth the following problem >regarding > > >progeny . > > > Of course the following birth data is mine . I was born >on > > >early > > > hours of May 9th ,1979 at 00:11 hrs at Anakapalle , >17N41, > > >83E03 . In > > > my horoscope 5th & 10th lord Venus is exalted in 3rd in >Pisces > > >. > > > Jupiter who is placed in Cancer aspects exalted Venus >through > > >his 9th > > > aspect . > > > On the other hand , According to Mantreswara ,the author >of > > >"Phala > > > Deepika" ,the chances are progeny are to be determined by >so > > >called > > > Beeja Sphuta (for males) & Progeny tithi-Karana . This >was > > >also > > > explained by Sri Iranganti Rangacharya in Bangalore's > > >Astrological > > > Magazine . In my horoscope the calculated Beeja sphuta >falls > > >in even > > > Sign and in even Navamsa . The calculated Progeny sphuta >falls > > >in > > > 14th day of dark lunar half & Karana is Vishti . Tithi >is > > >Chidra > > > tithi and Karana though Chara but it is Bhadra . In >every > > >aspect the > > > chances of progeny is nil according to Rangacharya. > > > > > > Well, my analysis may have subjective apprehensions >because > > >the > > > chart concerned is my own .But in saptamsa also fifth >house > > >falls in > > > Papakartari yoga . > > > I would like to put forth this because it may be > > >interesting to > > > research scholors who are dealing these cases. My chart >can be > > >freely > > > used for their research purpose . > > > Kindly enlighten me in this regard if my query >merits > > >answer and > > > remember I am still unmarried. > > > > > > remains > > > Shanmukha > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Terms >of > > >Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > >------------------------ Sponsor > > > >Your use of is subject to > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2002 Report Share Posted August 28, 2002 Aum Namah Sivaya Dear Sarbani, The questions here can be more fundamental: 1. Why the arudha padas? 2. Why of the two houses 3rd and the 9th? Why the house of progeny, the 5th is left out? 3. Why from Lagna and the Sun? Then comes the other questions put forward by you... Let me try to answer some these fundamental questions. This might give some cues to think. 3rd is the house of Vikrama or Courage. The courage can be interpreted as the physical tolerance, that is required for procreation. Never ignore the union which happens for procreation. Now this can also give us an clue, why the 3rd house of natural zodiac is mithuna or sign of copulation. Only physical action can't bring the the Soul to this earth. The womb should be pure to carry the divine fruit. The desire of the action shown by the 3rd house is fulfilled by the 9th house which is the house of Dharma. Hence the 7th (desires) from the 3rd becomes the 9th, which has the responsibility to fulfill the desires of the 3rd. Moreover, the same 9th house also show the dharma of a person to continue his lineage. Hence the 3rd and 9th houses are involved. Now why the arudhas. This is because we are seeing the procreative ability of a human in this birth. We are not considering the eternal soul over here. I hope someone can give a better answer to this!!!! As Visti and Sarbani has pointed out the Arudhas from the Lagna is checked to see the procreative ability of the physical body, whereas that from the Sun is seen for the ability of the Soul to bring a new soul to this world. I will answer the other part latter. I shall try answering some of the questions asked by Sarbani. 1. 9th house is the natural house of father, but why 3rd house? Sarajit: Already answered 2. Mercury causing denial of progeny is understandable, but why venus? Venus shows the ability to carry semen and is a jala tatva planet, which should point towards conception. Why is it contributing to denial? Sarajit: I hope you said Mercury shows denial becuase Mercury is a Eunuch planet! Any other reason? Venus shows denial as Venus shows selfishness and copetetion. Venus represent sperms and this is known that millions of sperms compete with each other to fertilize the Ovum. This each of these sperms will try to prohibit others to fertilise and hence the problem in procreation. This is a clear case of pulling the legs of someone who is in the verge of achieving by someone who can't!!! The feeling of "If I am not successful, I won't let you succeed. 3. The moon creates/gives the physical body. Why doesn't it have a role to play in this? Sarajit: Only when the birth has taken place, Moon becomes important. Before that Sun keeps the reins in its hands. Hence for procreation even though both are important, Sun is the most important. When we go into more details of the Conceptions et. al. we shall see the importance of the Moon. Regards Sarajit On Tue, 27 Aug 2002 Sarbani Sarkar wrote : >Dear Sarajit, Visti, Sanmukha and others, > >The arudha and surya arudha padas of the 3rd and the 9th houses >are seen to determine >(1) the physical ability to procreate and (2) and the ability to >carry an atma or a >soul. The conjunction of venus and mercury with these padas >causes denial of progeny. >The sun is the atma and hence the ability to carry a soul is >seen from the surya >arudha padas of the 3rd and the 9th houses. The conjunction of >venus and mercury in >the AS3 and AS9 will close all doors for the possibility of >having children...for >without an atma, there can be no birth. If AS3 and AS9 are >positive and the >conjunction of venus and mercury occurs only in the A3 and A9, >then with timely and >appropriate medical intervention, conception is possible. I do >have a few questions: >1. 9th house is the natural house of father, but why 3rd house? >2. Mercury causing denial of progeny is understandable, but why >venus? Venus shows >the ability to carry semen and is a jala tatva planet, which >should point towards >conception. Why is it contributing to denial? >3. The moon creates/gives the physical body. Why doesn't it have >a role to play in >this? > >Sarbani > >Sarajit Poddar wrote: > > > Om Namah Sivaya, > > Dear Visti and Sanmukha, > > > > All the groups are meant for learning and hence this is no > > different. Having curiousity is always good as thats the >basic > > driver for any learning. Thats only makes one OBSERVANT. Hope >you > > agree.... > > > > Sanmukha has given a method where we determine the Beeja and > > Kshetra sphuta for Males and Females and find out the >potential to > > bear a child or procreate. BV RAMAN has used them extensively >and > > you can find them BV RAMAN's How to Judge an Horoscope. > > > > However, the method adviced by Jaimini Maharishi is to >consider > > from 3rd house arudha (Vikramapada) and 9th house arudha > > (Gurupada) from Lagna and Sun. Sun, Venus and Mercury's >placement > > are seen from them to prognosticate the potential of projeny >which > > is again confirmed from Saptamsa. I am not giving here any >Sutras, > > however, I would like anyone to answer why Arudhas of 3rd and >9th > > is taken? Why from Lagna and Sun and not Moon?, Why Sun, Venus >and > > Mercury's placement is seen? > > > > Once these are answered, understanding progeny is a child's > > play! > > > > Pranaam > > Sarajit > > > > On Mon, 26 Aug 2002 Visti Larsen wrote : > > >Vyam Vyasaadevaaya Namah > > > > > > >-\ - > > > > > >Dear Shanmukha, > > >This group is still not ripe for going into the intricacies >of > > >progeny, and definitely not for chart analysis, of that >expected > > >by some who post their charts here. THIS IS A GROUP OF > > >LEARNING. > > > > > >But let me teach you something which has todo with >delianating > > >progeny. > > >To be able to give birth to children, one should be able to > > >concieve them. > > >Conception is ruled by the 3rd house, and the Arudhas of the >3rd > > >and 9th houses, rule the physical ability to concieve. > > > > > >If these Arudhas are placed in 6th/8th or 2nd/12th from Sun, >then > > >theres a physical problem with concieving. > > > > > >This happens in your chart. The remedy is to see the doctor, >as > > >there maybe a blockaage in the fallopian tube. > > > > > >Best wishes, Visti. > > > - > > > teli_sha2002 > > > sjvc > > > Monday, August 26, 2002 1:56 PM > > > [sjvc] progeny > > > > > > > > > Namaste Gurudeva, > > > > > > I would like to put forth the following problem >regarding > > >progeny . > > > Of course the following birth data is mine . I was born >on > > >early > > > hours of May 9th ,1979 at 00:11 hrs at Anakapalle , >17N41, > > >83E03 . In > > > my horoscope 5th & 10th lord Venus is exalted in 3rd in >Pisces > > >. > > > Jupiter who is placed in Cancer aspects exalted Venus >through > > >his 9th > > > aspect . > > > On the other hand , According to Mantreswara ,the author >of > > >"Phala > > > Deepika" ,the chances are progeny are to be determined by >so > > >called > > > Beeja Sphuta (for males) & Progeny tithi-Karana . This >was > > >also > > > explained by Sri Iranganti Rangacharya in Bangalore's > > >Astrological > > > Magazine . In my horoscope the calculated Beeja sphuta >falls > > >in even > > > Sign and in even Navamsa . The calculated Progeny sphuta >falls > > >in > > > 14th day of dark lunar half & Karana is Vishti . Tithi >is > > >Chidra > > > tithi and Karana though Chara but it is Bhadra . In >every > > >aspect the > > > chances of progeny is nil according to Rangacharya. > > > > > > Well, my analysis may have subjective apprehensions >because > > >the > > > chart concerned is my own .But in saptamsa also fifth >house > > >falls in > > > Papakartari yoga . > > > I would like to put forth this because it may be > > >interesting to > > > research scholors who are dealing these cases. My chart >can be > > >freely > > > used for their research purpose . > > > Kindly enlighten me in this regard if my query >merits > > >answer and > > > remember I am still unmarried. > > > > > > remains > > > Shanmukha > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Terms >of > > >Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > >------------------------ Sponsor > > > >Your use of is subject to > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2002 Report Share Posted August 30, 2002 Dear Visti, Thank you very much for your message . You gave me a good advice in delianating the horoscope. But I must admit that I did not intended to use this message board for personal chart analysis . If my message looks like that it may be because of my childishness . In the last line of your message you told "This happens in your chart. The remedy is to see the doctor, as there maybe a blockaage in the fallopian tube." ,but the thing is I am a male . remains Shanmukha sjvc, "Visti Larsen" <vishnu@l...> wrote: > Vyam Vyasaadevaaya Namah > > -- ------------ > > Dear Shanmukha, > This group is still not ripe for going into the intricacies of progeny, and definitely not for chart analysis, of that expected by some who post their charts here. THIS IS A GROUP OF LEARNING. > > But let me teach you something which has todo with delianating progeny. > To be able to give birth to children, one should be able to concieve them. > Conception is ruled by the 3rd house, and the Arudhas of the 3rd and 9th houses, rule the physical ability to concieve. > > If these Arudhas are placed in 6th/8th or 2nd/12th from Sun, then theres a physical problem with concieving. > > This happens in your chart. The remedy is to see the doctor, as there maybe a blockaage in the fallopian tube. > > Best wishes, Visti. > - > teli_sha2002 > sjvc > Monday, August 26, 2002 1:56 PM > [sjvc] progeny > > > Namaste Gurudeva, > > I would like to put forth the following problem regarding progeny . > Of course the following birth data is mine . I was born on early > hours of May 9th ,1979 at 00:11 hrs at Anakapalle , 17N41, 83E03 . In > my horoscope 5th & 10th lord Venus is exalted in 3rd in Pisces . > Jupiter who is placed in Cancer aspects exalted Venus through his 9th > aspect . > On the other hand , According to Mantreswara ,the author of "Phala > Deepika" ,the chances are progeny are to be determined by so called > Beeja Sphuta (for males) & Progeny tithi-Karana . This was also > explained by Sri Iranganti Rangacharya in Bangalore's Astrological > Magazine . In my horoscope the calculated Beeja sphuta falls in even > Sign and in even Navamsa . The calculated Progeny sphuta falls in > 14th day of dark lunar half & Karana is Vishti . Tithi is Chidra > tithi and Karana though Chara but it is Bhadra . In every aspect the > chances of progeny is nil according to Rangacharya. > > Well, my analysis may have subjective apprehensions because the > chart concerned is my own .But in saptamsa also fifth house falls in > Papakartari yoga . > I would like to put forth this because it may be interesting to > research scholors who are dealing these cases. My chart can be freely > used for their research purpose . > Kindly enlighten me in this regard if my query merits answer and > remember I am still unmarried. > > remains > Shanmukha > > > Sponsor > > > > > Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2002 Report Share Posted August 30, 2002 Dear Visti, Thank you very much for your message . You gave me a good advice in delianating the horoscope. But I must admit that I did not intended to use this message board for personal chart analysis . If my message looks like that it may be because of my childishness . In the last line of your message you told "This happens in your chart. The remedy is to see the doctor, as there maybe a blockaage in the fallopian tube." ,but the thing is I am a male . remains Shanmukha sjvc, "Visti Larsen" <vishnu@l...> wrote: > Vyam Vyasaadevaaya Namah > > -- ------------ > > Dear Shanmukha, > This group is still not ripe for going into the intricacies of progeny, and definitely not for chart analysis, of that expected by some who post their charts here. THIS IS A GROUP OF LEARNING. > > But let me teach you something which has todo with delianating progeny. > To be able to give birth to children, one should be able to concieve them. > Conception is ruled by the 3rd house, and the Arudhas of the 3rd and 9th houses, rule the physical ability to concieve. > > If these Arudhas are placed in 6th/8th or 2nd/12th from Sun, then theres a physical problem with concieving. > > This happens in your chart. The remedy is to see the doctor, as there maybe a blockaage in the fallopian tube. > > Best wishes, Visti. > - > teli_sha2002 > sjvc > Monday, August 26, 2002 1:56 PM > [sjvc] progeny > > > Namaste Gurudeva, > > I would like to put forth the following problem regarding progeny . > Of course the following birth data is mine . I was born on early > hours of May 9th ,1979 at 00:11 hrs at Anakapalle , 17N41, 83E03 . In > my horoscope 5th & 10th lord Venus is exalted in 3rd in Pisces . > Jupiter who is placed in Cancer aspects exalted Venus through his 9th > aspect . > On the other hand , According to Mantreswara ,the author of "Phala > Deepika" ,the chances are progeny are to be determined by so called > Beeja Sphuta (for males) & Progeny tithi-Karana . This was also > explained by Sri Iranganti Rangacharya in Bangalore's Astrological > Magazine . In my horoscope the calculated Beeja sphuta falls in even > Sign and in even Navamsa . The calculated Progeny sphuta falls in > 14th day of dark lunar half & Karana is Vishti . Tithi is Chidra > tithi and Karana though Chara but it is Bhadra . In every aspect the > chances of progeny is nil according to Rangacharya. > > Well, my analysis may have subjective apprehensions because the > chart concerned is my own .But in saptamsa also fifth house falls in > Papakartari yoga . > I would like to put forth this because it may be interesting to > research scholors who are dealing these cases. My chart can be freely > used for their research purpose . > Kindly enlighten me in this regard if my query merits answer and > remember I am still unmarried. > > remains > Shanmukha > > > Sponsor > > > > > Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2002 Report Share Posted August 30, 2002 Vyam Vysadevaaya Namah Dear Shanmukha, Sorry, i thought you were female. Nevertheless the bloackage is still there, see a doctor. Best wishes, Visti. - teli_sha2002 sjvc Friday, August 30, 2002 8:33 AM [sjvc] Re: progeny Dear Visti, Thank you very much for your message . You gave me a good advice in delianating the horoscope. But I must admit that I did not intended to use this message board for personal chart analysis . If my message looks like that it may be because of my childishness . In the last line of your message you told "This happens in your chart. The remedy is to see the doctor, as there maybe a blockaage in the fallopian tube." ,but the thing is I am a male . remainsShanmukhasjvc, "Visti Larsen" <vishnu@l...> wrote:> Vyam Vyasaadevaaya Namah> > --> > Dear Shanmukha,> This group is still not ripe for going into the intricacies of progeny, and definitely not for chart analysis, of that expected by some who post their charts here. THIS IS A GROUP OF LEARNING.> > But let me teach you something which has todo with delianating progeny.> To be able to give birth to children, one should be able to concieve them.> Conception is ruled by the 3rd house, and the Arudhas of the 3rd and 9th houses, rule the physical ability to concieve.> > If these Arudhas are placed in 6th/8th or 2nd/12th from Sun, then theres a physical problem with concieving.> > This happens in your chart. The remedy is to see the doctor, as there maybe a blockaage in the fallopian tube.> > Best wishes, Visti.> - > teli_sha2002 > sjvc > Monday, August 26, 2002 1:56 PM> [sjvc] progeny> > > Namaste Gurudeva,> > I would like to put forth the following problem regarding progeny . > Of course the following birth data is mine . I was born on early > hours of May 9th ,1979 at 00:11 hrs at Anakapalle , 17N41, 83E03 . In > my horoscope 5th & 10th lord Venus is exalted in 3rd in Pisces . > Jupiter who is placed in Cancer aspects exalted Venus through his 9th > aspect .> On the other hand , According to Mantreswara ,the author of "Phala > Deepika" ,the chances are progeny are to be determined by so called > Beeja Sphuta (for males) & Progeny tithi-Karana . This was also > explained by Sri Iranganti Rangacharya in Bangalore's Astrological > Magazine . In my horoscope the calculated Beeja sphuta falls in even > Sign and in even Navamsa . The calculated Progeny sphuta falls in > 14th day of dark lunar half & Karana is Vishti . Tithi is Chidra > tithi and Karana though Chara but it is Bhadra . In every aspect the > chances of progeny is nil according to Rangacharya.> > Well, my analysis may have subjective apprehensions because the > chart concerned is my own .But in saptamsa also fifth house falls in > Papakartari yoga .> I would like to put forth this because it may be interesting to > research scholors who are dealing these cases. My chart can be freely > used for their research purpose .> Kindly enlighten me in this regard if my query merits answer and > remember I am still unmarried.> > remains> Shanmukha> > > Sponsor > > > > > Your use of is subject to the Your use of is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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