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Namaste Gurudeva,

 

I would like to put forth the following problem regarding progeny .

Of course the following birth data is mine . I was born on early

hours of May 9th ,1979 at 00:11 hrs at Anakapalle , 17N41, 83E03 . In

my horoscope 5th & 10th lord Venus is exalted in 3rd in Pisces .

Jupiter who is placed in Cancer aspects exalted Venus through his 9th

aspect .

On the other hand , According to Mantreswara ,the author of "Phala

Deepika" ,the chances are progeny are to be determined by so called

Beeja Sphuta (for males) & Progeny tithi-Karana . This was also

explained by Sri Iranganti Rangacharya in Bangalore's Astrological

Magazine . In my horoscope the calculated Beeja sphuta falls in even

Sign and in even Navamsa . The calculated Progeny sphuta falls in

14th day of dark lunar half & Karana is Vishti . Tithi is Chidra

tithi and Karana though Chara but it is Bhadra . In every aspect the

chances of progeny is nil according to Rangacharya.

 

Well, my analysis may have subjective apprehensions because the

chart concerned is my own .But in saptamsa also fifth house falls in

Papakartari yoga .

I would like to put forth this because it may be interesting to

research scholors who are dealing these cases. My chart can be freely

used for their research purpose .

Kindly enlighten me in this regard if my query merits answer and

remember I am still unmarried.

 

remains

Shanmukha

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Vyam Vyasaadevaaya Namah

Dear Shanmukha,

This group is still not ripe for going into the intricacies of progeny, and

definitely not for chart analysis, of that expected by some who post their

charts here. THIS IS A GROUP OF LEARNING.

 

But let me teach you something which has todo with delianating progeny.

To be able to give birth to children, one should be able to concieve them.

Conception is ruled by the 3rd house, and the Arudhas of the 3rd and 9th houses,

rule the physical ability to concieve.

 

If these Arudhas are placed in 6th/8th or 2nd/12th from Sun, then theres a

physical problem with concieving.

 

This happens in your chart. The remedy is to see the doctor, as there maybe a

blockaage in the fallopian tube.

 

Best wishes, Visti.

-

teli_sha2002

sjvc

Monday, August 26, 2002 1:56 PM

[sjvc] progeny

Namaste Gurudeva,I would like to put forth the following problem regarding

progeny . Of course the following birth data is mine . I was born on early

hours of May 9th ,1979 at 00:11 hrs at Anakapalle , 17N41, 83E03 . In my

horoscope 5th & 10th lord Venus is exalted in 3rd in Pisces . Jupiter who is

placed in Cancer aspects exalted Venus through his 9th aspect .On the other

hand , According to Mantreswara ,the author of "Phala Deepika" ,the chances are

progeny are to be determined by so called Beeja Sphuta (for males) & Progeny

tithi-Karana . This was also explained by Sri Iranganti Rangacharya in

Bangalore's Astrological Magazine . In my horoscope the calculated Beeja sphuta

falls in even Sign and in even Navamsa . The calculated Progeny sphuta falls in

14th day of dark lunar half & Karana is Vishti . Tithi is Chidra tithi and

Karana though Chara but it is Bhadra . In every aspect the chances of progeny

is nil according to Rangacharya.Well, my analysis may have subjective

apprehensions because the chart concerned is my own .But in saptamsa also fifth

house falls in Papakartari yoga . I would like to put forth this because it

may be interesting to research scholors who are dealing these cases. My chart

can be freely used for their research purpose . Kindly enlighten me in this

regard if my query merits answer and remember I am still

unmarried.remainsShanmukha

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Om Namah Sivaya,

Dear Visti and Sanmukha,

 

All the groups are meant for learning and hence this is no

different. Having curiousity is always good as thats the basic

driver for any learning. Thats only makes one OBSERVANT. Hope you

agree....

 

Sanmukha has given a method where we determine the Beeja and

Kshetra sphuta for Males and Females and find out the potential to

bear a child or procreate. BV RAMAN has used them extensively and

you can find them BV RAMAN's How to Judge an Horoscope.

 

However, the method adviced by Jaimini Maharishi is to consider

from 3rd house arudha (Vikramapada) and 9th house arudha

(Gurupada) from Lagna and Sun. Sun, Venus and Mercury's placement

are seen from them to prognosticate the potential of projeny which

is again confirmed from Saptamsa. I am not giving here any Sutras,

however, I would like anyone to answer why Arudhas of 3rd and 9th

is taken? Why from Lagna and Sun and not Moon?, Why Sun, Venus and

Mercury's placement is seen?

 

Once these are answered, understanding progeny is a child's

play!

 

Pranaam

Sarajit

 

 

 

On Mon, 26 Aug 2002 Visti Larsen wrote :

>Vyam Vyasaadevaaya Namah

>

>-\

-

>

>Dear Shanmukha,

>This group is still not ripe for going into the intricacies of

>progeny, and definitely not for chart analysis, of that expected

>by some who post their charts here. THIS IS A GROUP OF

>LEARNING.

>

>But let me teach you something which has todo with delianating

>progeny.

>To be able to give birth to children, one should be able to

>concieve them.

>Conception is ruled by the 3rd house, and the Arudhas of the 3rd

>and 9th houses, rule the physical ability to concieve.

>

>If these Arudhas are placed in 6th/8th or 2nd/12th from Sun, then

>theres a physical problem with concieving.

>

>This happens in your chart. The remedy is to see the doctor, as

>there maybe a blockaage in the fallopian tube.

>

>Best wishes, Visti.

> -

> teli_sha2002

> sjvc

> Monday, August 26, 2002 1:56 PM

> [sjvc] progeny

>

>

> Namaste Gurudeva,

>

> I would like to put forth the following problem regarding

>progeny .

> Of course the following birth data is mine . I was born on

>early

> hours of May 9th ,1979 at 00:11 hrs at Anakapalle , 17N41,

>83E03 . In

> my horoscope 5th & 10th lord Venus is exalted in 3rd in Pisces

>.

> Jupiter who is placed in Cancer aspects exalted Venus through

>his 9th

> aspect .

> On the other hand , According to Mantreswara ,the author of

>"Phala

> Deepika" ,the chances are progeny are to be determined by so

>called

> Beeja Sphuta (for males) & Progeny tithi-Karana . This was

>also

> explained by Sri Iranganti Rangacharya in Bangalore's

>Astrological

> Magazine . In my horoscope the calculated Beeja sphuta falls

>in even

> Sign and in even Navamsa . The calculated Progeny sphuta falls

>in

> 14th day of dark lunar half & Karana is Vishti . Tithi is

>Chidra

> tithi and Karana though Chara but it is Bhadra . In every

>aspect the

> chances of progeny is nil according to Rangacharya.

>

> Well, my analysis may have subjective apprehensions because

>the

> chart concerned is my own .But in saptamsa also fifth house

>falls in

> Papakartari yoga .

> I would like to put forth this because it may be

>interesting to

> research scholors who are dealing these cases. My chart can be

>freely

> used for their research purpose .

> Kindly enlighten me in this regard if my query merits

>answer and

> remember I am still unmarried.

>

> remains

> Shanmukha

>

>

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Dear Sarajit, Visti, Sanmukha and others,

 

The arudha and surya arudha padas of the 3rd and the 9th houses are seen to

determine

(1) the physical ability to procreate and (2) and the ability to carry an atma

or a

soul. The conjunction of venus and mercury with these padas causes denial of

progeny.

The sun is the atma and hence the ability to carry a soul is seen from the

surya

arudha padas of the 3rd and the 9th houses. The conjunction of venus and mercury

in

the AS3 and AS9 will close all doors for the possibility of having

children...for

without an atma, there can be no birth. If AS3 and AS9 are positive and the

conjunction of venus and mercury occurs only in the A3 and A9, then with timely

and

appropriate medical intervention, conception is possible. I do have a few

questions:

1. 9th house is the natural house of father, but why 3rd house?

2. Mercury causing denial of progeny is understandable, but why venus? Venus

shows

the ability to carry semen and is a jala tatva planet, which should point

towards

conception. Why is it contributing to denial?

3. The moon creates/gives the physical body. Why doesn't it have a role to play

in

this?

 

Sarbani

 

Sarajit Poddar wrote:

 

> Om Namah Sivaya,

> Dear Visti and Sanmukha,

>

> All the groups are meant for learning and hence this is no

> different. Having curiousity is always good as thats the basic

> driver for any learning. Thats only makes one OBSERVANT. Hope you

> agree....

>

> Sanmukha has given a method where we determine the Beeja and

> Kshetra sphuta for Males and Females and find out the potential to

> bear a child or procreate. BV RAMAN has used them extensively and

> you can find them BV RAMAN's How to Judge an Horoscope.

>

> However, the method adviced by Jaimini Maharishi is to consider

> from 3rd house arudha (Vikramapada) and 9th house arudha

> (Gurupada) from Lagna and Sun. Sun, Venus and Mercury's placement

> are seen from them to prognosticate the potential of projeny which

> is again confirmed from Saptamsa. I am not giving here any Sutras,

> however, I would like anyone to answer why Arudhas of 3rd and 9th

> is taken? Why from Lagna and Sun and not Moon?, Why Sun, Venus and

> Mercury's placement is seen?

>

> Once these are answered, understanding progeny is a child's

> play!

>

> Pranaam

> Sarajit

>

> On Mon, 26 Aug 2002 Visti Larsen wrote :

> >Vyam Vyasaadevaaya Namah

> >

>

>-\

-

> >

> >Dear Shanmukha,

> >This group is still not ripe for going into the intricacies of

> >progeny, and definitely not for chart analysis, of that expected

> >by some who post their charts here. THIS IS A GROUP OF

> >LEARNING.

> >

> >But let me teach you something which has todo with delianating

> >progeny.

> >To be able to give birth to children, one should be able to

> >concieve them.

> >Conception is ruled by the 3rd house, and the Arudhas of the 3rd

> >and 9th houses, rule the physical ability to concieve.

> >

> >If these Arudhas are placed in 6th/8th or 2nd/12th from Sun, then

> >theres a physical problem with concieving.

> >

> >This happens in your chart. The remedy is to see the doctor, as

> >there maybe a blockaage in the fallopian tube.

> >

> >Best wishes, Visti.

> > -

> > teli_sha2002

> > sjvc

> > Monday, August 26, 2002 1:56 PM

> > [sjvc] progeny

> >

> >

> > Namaste Gurudeva,

> >

> > I would like to put forth the following problem regarding

> >progeny .

> > Of course the following birth data is mine . I was born on

> >early

> > hours of May 9th ,1979 at 00:11 hrs at Anakapalle , 17N41,

> >83E03 . In

> > my horoscope 5th & 10th lord Venus is exalted in 3rd in Pisces

> >.

> > Jupiter who is placed in Cancer aspects exalted Venus through

> >his 9th

> > aspect .

> > On the other hand , According to Mantreswara ,the author of

> >"Phala

> > Deepika" ,the chances are progeny are to be determined by so

> >called

> > Beeja Sphuta (for males) & Progeny tithi-Karana . This was

> >also

> > explained by Sri Iranganti Rangacharya in Bangalore's

> >Astrological

> > Magazine . In my horoscope the calculated Beeja sphuta falls

> >in even

> > Sign and in even Navamsa . The calculated Progeny sphuta falls

> >in

> > 14th day of dark lunar half & Karana is Vishti . Tithi is

> >Chidra

> > tithi and Karana though Chara but it is Bhadra . In every

> >aspect the

> > chances of progeny is nil according to Rangacharya.

> >

> > Well, my analysis may have subjective apprehensions because

> >the

> > chart concerned is my own .But in saptamsa also fifth house

> >falls in

> > Papakartari yoga .

> > I would like to put forth this because it may be

> >interesting to

> > research scholors who are dealing these cases. My chart can be

> >freely

> > used for their research purpose .

> > Kindly enlighten me in this regard if my query merits

> >answer and

> > remember I am still unmarried.

> >

> > remains

> > Shanmukha

> >

> >

> > Sponsor

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Terms of

> >Service.

> >

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Aum Namah Sivaya

Dear Sarbani,

 

The questions here can be more fundamental:

1. Why the arudha padas?

2. Why of the two houses 3rd and the 9th? Why the house of

progeny, the 5th is left out?

3. Why from Lagna and the Sun?

 

Then comes the other questions put forward by you...

 

Let me try to answer some these fundamental questions. This might

give some cues to think. 3rd is the house of Vikrama or Courage.

The courage can be interpreted as the physical tolerance, that is

required for procreation. Never ignore the union which happens for

procreation. Now this can also give us an clue, why the 3rd house

of natural zodiac is mithuna or sign of copulation.

 

Only physical action can't bring the the Soul to this earth. The

womb should be pure to carry the divine fruit. The desire of the

action shown by the 3rd house is fulfilled by the 9th house which

is the house of Dharma. Hence the 7th (desires) from the 3rd

becomes the 9th, which has the responsibility to fulfill the

desires of the 3rd. Moreover, the same 9th house also show the

dharma of a person to continue his lineage. Hence the 3rd and 9th

houses are involved.

 

Now why the arudhas. This is because we are seeing the procreative

ability of a human in this birth. We are not considering the

eternal soul over here. I hope someone can give a better answer to

this!!!!

 

As Visti and Sarbani has pointed out the Arudhas from the Lagna is

checked to see the procreative ability of the physical body,

whereas that from the Sun is seen for the ability of the Soul to

bring a new soul to this world.

 

I will answer the other part latter. I shall try answering some of

the questions asked by Sarbani.

 

1. 9th house is the natural house of father, but why 3rd house?

 

Sarajit: Already answered

 

2. Mercury causing denial of progeny is understandable, but why

venus? Venus shows the ability to carry semen and is a jala tatva

planet, which should point towards conception. Why is it

contributing to denial?

 

Sarajit: I hope you said Mercury shows denial becuase Mercury is a

Eunuch planet! Any other reason?

 

Venus shows denial as Venus shows selfishness and copetetion.

Venus represent sperms and this is known that millions of sperms

compete with each other to fertilize the Ovum. This each of these

sperms will try to prohibit others to fertilise and hence the

problem in procreation. This is a clear case of pulling the legs

of someone who is in the verge of achieving by someone who

can't!!! The feeling of "If I am not successful, I won't let you

succeed.

 

3. The moon creates/gives the physical body. Why doesn't it have a

role to play in this?

 

Sarajit: Only when the birth has taken place, Moon becomes

important. Before that Sun keeps the reins in its hands. Hence for

procreation even though both are important, Sun is the most

important. When we go into more details of the Conceptions et. al.

we shall see the importance of the Moon.

 

Regards

Sarajit

 

 

 

 

On Tue, 27 Aug 2002 Sarbani Sarkar wrote :

>Dear Sarajit, Visti, Sanmukha and others,

>

>The arudha and surya arudha padas of the 3rd and the 9th houses

>are seen to determine

>(1) the physical ability to procreate and (2) and the ability to

>carry an atma or a

>soul. The conjunction of venus and mercury with these padas

>causes denial of progeny.

>The sun is the atma and hence the ability to carry a soul is

>seen from the surya

>arudha padas of the 3rd and the 9th houses. The conjunction of

>venus and mercury in

>the AS3 and AS9 will close all doors for the possibility of

>having children...for

>without an atma, there can be no birth. If AS3 and AS9 are

>positive and the

>conjunction of venus and mercury occurs only in the A3 and A9,

>then with timely and

>appropriate medical intervention, conception is possible. I do

>have a few questions:

>1. 9th house is the natural house of father, but why 3rd house?

>2. Mercury causing denial of progeny is understandable, but why

>venus? Venus shows

>the ability to carry semen and is a jala tatva planet, which

>should point towards

>conception. Why is it contributing to denial?

>3. The moon creates/gives the physical body. Why doesn't it have

>a role to play in

>this?

>

>Sarbani

>

>Sarajit Poddar wrote:

>

> > Om Namah Sivaya,

> > Dear Visti and Sanmukha,

> >

> > All the groups are meant for learning and hence this is no

> > different. Having curiousity is always good as thats the

>basic

> > driver for any learning. Thats only makes one OBSERVANT. Hope

>you

> > agree....

> >

> > Sanmukha has given a method where we determine the Beeja and

> > Kshetra sphuta for Males and Females and find out the

>potential to

> > bear a child or procreate. BV RAMAN has used them extensively

>and

> > you can find them BV RAMAN's How to Judge an Horoscope.

> >

> > However, the method adviced by Jaimini Maharishi is to

>consider

> > from 3rd house arudha (Vikramapada) and 9th house arudha

> > (Gurupada) from Lagna and Sun. Sun, Venus and Mercury's

>placement

> > are seen from them to prognosticate the potential of projeny

>which

> > is again confirmed from Saptamsa. I am not giving here any

>Sutras,

> > however, I would like anyone to answer why Arudhas of 3rd and

>9th

> > is taken? Why from Lagna and Sun and not Moon?, Why Sun, Venus

>and

> > Mercury's placement is seen?

> >

> > Once these are answered, understanding progeny is a child's

> > play!

> >

> > Pranaam

> > Sarajit

> >

> > On Mon, 26 Aug 2002 Visti Larsen wrote :

> > >Vyam Vyasaadevaaya Namah

> > >

> >

>

>-\

-

> > >

> > >Dear Shanmukha,

> > >This group is still not ripe for going into the intricacies

>of

> > >progeny, and definitely not for chart analysis, of that

>expected

> > >by some who post their charts here. THIS IS A GROUP OF

> > >LEARNING.

> > >

> > >But let me teach you something which has todo with

>delianating

> > >progeny.

> > >To be able to give birth to children, one should be able to

> > >concieve them.

> > >Conception is ruled by the 3rd house, and the Arudhas of the

>3rd

> > >and 9th houses, rule the physical ability to concieve.

> > >

> > >If these Arudhas are placed in 6th/8th or 2nd/12th from Sun,

>then

> > >theres a physical problem with concieving.

> > >

> > >This happens in your chart. The remedy is to see the doctor,

>as

> > >there maybe a blockaage in the fallopian tube.

> > >

> > >Best wishes, Visti.

> > > -

> > > teli_sha2002

> > > sjvc

> > > Monday, August 26, 2002 1:56 PM

> > > [sjvc] progeny

> > >

> > >

> > > Namaste Gurudeva,

> > >

> > > I would like to put forth the following problem

>regarding

> > >progeny .

> > > Of course the following birth data is mine . I was born

>on

> > >early

> > > hours of May 9th ,1979 at 00:11 hrs at Anakapalle ,

>17N41,

> > >83E03 . In

> > > my horoscope 5th & 10th lord Venus is exalted in 3rd in

>Pisces

> > >.

> > > Jupiter who is placed in Cancer aspects exalted Venus

>through

> > >his 9th

> > > aspect .

> > > On the other hand , According to Mantreswara ,the author

>of

> > >"Phala

> > > Deepika" ,the chances are progeny are to be determined by

>so

> > >called

> > > Beeja Sphuta (for males) & Progeny tithi-Karana . This

>was

> > >also

> > > explained by Sri Iranganti Rangacharya in Bangalore's

> > >Astrological

> > > Magazine . In my horoscope the calculated Beeja sphuta

>falls

> > >in even

> > > Sign and in even Navamsa . The calculated Progeny sphuta

>falls

> > >in

> > > 14th day of dark lunar half & Karana is Vishti . Tithi

>is

> > >Chidra

> > > tithi and Karana though Chara but it is Bhadra . In

>every

> > >aspect the

> > > chances of progeny is nil according to Rangacharya.

> > >

> > > Well, my analysis may have subjective apprehensions

>because

> > >the

> > > chart concerned is my own .But in saptamsa also fifth

>house

> > >falls in

> > > Papakartari yoga .

> > > I would like to put forth this because it may be

> > >interesting to

> > > research scholors who are dealing these cases. My chart

>can be

> > >freely

> > > used for their research purpose .

> > > Kindly enlighten me in this regard if my query

>merits

> > >answer and

> > > remember I am still unmarried.

> > >

> > > remains

> > > Shanmukha

> > >

> > >

> > > Sponsor

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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>of

> > >Service.

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Your use of is subject to

>

>

>

>

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Aum Namah Sivaya

Dear Sarbani,

 

The questions here can be more fundamental:

1. Why the arudha padas?

2. Why of the two houses 3rd and the 9th? Why the house of

progeny, the 5th is left out?

3. Why from Lagna and the Sun?

 

Then comes the other questions put forward by you...

 

Let me try to answer some these fundamental questions. This might

give some cues to think. 3rd is the house of Vikrama or Courage.

The courage can be interpreted as the physical tolerance, that is

required for procreation. Never ignore the union which happens for

procreation. Now this can also give us an clue, why the 3rd house

of natural zodiac is mithuna or sign of copulation.

 

Only physical action can't bring the the Soul to this earth. The

womb should be pure to carry the divine fruit. The desire of the

action shown by the 3rd house is fulfilled by the 9th house which

is the house of Dharma. Hence the 7th (desires) from the 3rd

becomes the 9th, which has the responsibility to fulfill the

desires of the 3rd. Moreover, the same 9th house also show the

dharma of a person to continue his lineage. Hence the 3rd and 9th

houses are involved.

 

Now why the arudhas. This is because we are seeing the procreative

ability of a human in this birth. We are not considering the

eternal soul over here. I hope someone can give a better answer to

this!!!!

 

As Visti and Sarbani has pointed out the Arudhas from the Lagna is

checked to see the procreative ability of the physical body,

whereas that from the Sun is seen for the ability of the Soul to

bring a new soul to this world.

 

I will answer the other part latter. I shall try answering some of

the questions asked by Sarbani.

 

1. 9th house is the natural house of father, but why 3rd house?

 

Sarajit: Already answered

 

2. Mercury causing denial of progeny is understandable, but why

venus? Venus shows the ability to carry semen and is a jala tatva

planet, which should point towards conception. Why is it

contributing to denial?

 

Sarajit: I hope you said Mercury shows denial becuase Mercury is a

Eunuch planet! Any other reason?

 

Venus shows denial as Venus shows selfishness and copetetion.

Venus represent sperms and this is known that millions of sperms

compete with each other to fertilize the Ovum. This each of these

sperms will try to prohibit others to fertilise and hence the

problem in procreation. This is a clear case of pulling the legs

of someone who is in the verge of achieving by someone who

can't!!! The feeling of "If I am not successful, I won't let you

succeed.

 

3. The moon creates/gives the physical body. Why doesn't it have a

role to play in this?

 

Sarajit: Only when the birth has taken place, Moon becomes

important. Before that Sun keeps the reins in its hands. Hence for

procreation even though both are important, Sun is the most

important. When we go into more details of the Conceptions et. al.

we shall see the importance of the Moon.

 

Regards

Sarajit

 

 

 

 

On Tue, 27 Aug 2002 Sarbani Sarkar wrote :

>Dear Sarajit, Visti, Sanmukha and others,

>

>The arudha and surya arudha padas of the 3rd and the 9th houses

>are seen to determine

>(1) the physical ability to procreate and (2) and the ability to

>carry an atma or a

>soul. The conjunction of venus and mercury with these padas

>causes denial of progeny.

>The sun is the atma and hence the ability to carry a soul is

>seen from the surya

>arudha padas of the 3rd and the 9th houses. The conjunction of

>venus and mercury in

>the AS3 and AS9 will close all doors for the possibility of

>having children...for

>without an atma, there can be no birth. If AS3 and AS9 are

>positive and the

>conjunction of venus and mercury occurs only in the A3 and A9,

>then with timely and

>appropriate medical intervention, conception is possible. I do

>have a few questions:

>1. 9th house is the natural house of father, but why 3rd house?

>2. Mercury causing denial of progeny is understandable, but why

>venus? Venus shows

>the ability to carry semen and is a jala tatva planet, which

>should point towards

>conception. Why is it contributing to denial?

>3. The moon creates/gives the physical body. Why doesn't it have

>a role to play in

>this?

>

>Sarbani

>

>Sarajit Poddar wrote:

>

> > Om Namah Sivaya,

> > Dear Visti and Sanmukha,

> >

> > All the groups are meant for learning and hence this is no

> > different. Having curiousity is always good as thats the

>basic

> > driver for any learning. Thats only makes one OBSERVANT. Hope

>you

> > agree....

> >

> > Sanmukha has given a method where we determine the Beeja and

> > Kshetra sphuta for Males and Females and find out the

>potential to

> > bear a child or procreate. BV RAMAN has used them extensively

>and

> > you can find them BV RAMAN's How to Judge an Horoscope.

> >

> > However, the method adviced by Jaimini Maharishi is to

>consider

> > from 3rd house arudha (Vikramapada) and 9th house arudha

> > (Gurupada) from Lagna and Sun. Sun, Venus and Mercury's

>placement

> > are seen from them to prognosticate the potential of projeny

>which

> > is again confirmed from Saptamsa. I am not giving here any

>Sutras,

> > however, I would like anyone to answer why Arudhas of 3rd and

>9th

> > is taken? Why from Lagna and Sun and not Moon?, Why Sun, Venus

>and

> > Mercury's placement is seen?

> >

> > Once these are answered, understanding progeny is a child's

> > play!

> >

> > Pranaam

> > Sarajit

> >

> > On Mon, 26 Aug 2002 Visti Larsen wrote :

> > >Vyam Vyasaadevaaya Namah

> > >

> >

>

>-\

-

> > >

> > >Dear Shanmukha,

> > >This group is still not ripe for going into the intricacies

>of

> > >progeny, and definitely not for chart analysis, of that

>expected

> > >by some who post their charts here. THIS IS A GROUP OF

> > >LEARNING.

> > >

> > >But let me teach you something which has todo with

>delianating

> > >progeny.

> > >To be able to give birth to children, one should be able to

> > >concieve them.

> > >Conception is ruled by the 3rd house, and the Arudhas of the

>3rd

> > >and 9th houses, rule the physical ability to concieve.

> > >

> > >If these Arudhas are placed in 6th/8th or 2nd/12th from Sun,

>then

> > >theres a physical problem with concieving.

> > >

> > >This happens in your chart. The remedy is to see the doctor,

>as

> > >there maybe a blockaage in the fallopian tube.

> > >

> > >Best wishes, Visti.

> > > -

> > > teli_sha2002

> > > sjvc

> > > Monday, August 26, 2002 1:56 PM

> > > [sjvc] progeny

> > >

> > >

> > > Namaste Gurudeva,

> > >

> > > I would like to put forth the following problem

>regarding

> > >progeny .

> > > Of course the following birth data is mine . I was born

>on

> > >early

> > > hours of May 9th ,1979 at 00:11 hrs at Anakapalle ,

>17N41,

> > >83E03 . In

> > > my horoscope 5th & 10th lord Venus is exalted in 3rd in

>Pisces

> > >.

> > > Jupiter who is placed in Cancer aspects exalted Venus

>through

> > >his 9th

> > > aspect .

> > > On the other hand , According to Mantreswara ,the author

>of

> > >"Phala

> > > Deepika" ,the chances are progeny are to be determined by

>so

> > >called

> > > Beeja Sphuta (for males) & Progeny tithi-Karana . This

>was

> > >also

> > > explained by Sri Iranganti Rangacharya in Bangalore's

> > >Astrological

> > > Magazine . In my horoscope the calculated Beeja sphuta

>falls

> > >in even

> > > Sign and in even Navamsa . The calculated Progeny sphuta

>falls

> > >in

> > > 14th day of dark lunar half & Karana is Vishti . Tithi

>is

> > >Chidra

> > > tithi and Karana though Chara but it is Bhadra . In

>every

> > >aspect the

> > > chances of progeny is nil according to Rangacharya.

> > >

> > > Well, my analysis may have subjective apprehensions

>because

> > >the

> > > chart concerned is my own .But in saptamsa also fifth

>house

> > >falls in

> > > Papakartari yoga .

> > > I would like to put forth this because it may be

> > >interesting to

> > > research scholors who are dealing these cases. My chart

>can be

> > >freely

> > > used for their research purpose .

> > > Kindly enlighten me in this regard if my query

>merits

> > >answer and

> > > remember I am still unmarried.

> > >

> > > remains

> > > Shanmukha

> > >

> > >

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> > >

> >

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Dear Visti,

Thank you very much for your message . You gave me a good advice

in delianating the horoscope. But I must admit that I did not

intended to use this message board for personal chart analysis . If

my message looks like that it may be because of my childishness . In

the last line of your message you told "This happens in your chart.

The remedy is to see the doctor, as there maybe a blockaage in the

fallopian tube." ,but the thing is I am a male .

 

remains

Shanmukha

 

 

 

 

sjvc, "Visti Larsen" <vishnu@l...> wrote:

> Vyam Vyasaadevaaya Namah

>

> --

------------

>

> Dear Shanmukha,

> This group is still not ripe for going into the intricacies of

progeny, and definitely not for chart analysis, of that expected by

some who post their charts here. THIS IS A GROUP OF LEARNING.

>

> But let me teach you something which has todo with delianating

progeny.

> To be able to give birth to children, one should be able to

concieve them.

> Conception is ruled by the 3rd house, and the Arudhas of the 3rd

and 9th houses, rule the physical ability to concieve.

>

> If these Arudhas are placed in 6th/8th or 2nd/12th from Sun, then

theres a physical problem with concieving.

>

> This happens in your chart. The remedy is to see the doctor, as

there maybe a blockaage in the fallopian tube.

>

> Best wishes, Visti.

> -

> teli_sha2002

> sjvc

> Monday, August 26, 2002 1:56 PM

> [sjvc] progeny

>

>

> Namaste Gurudeva,

>

> I would like to put forth the following problem regarding

progeny .

> Of course the following birth data is mine . I was born on early

> hours of May 9th ,1979 at 00:11 hrs at Anakapalle , 17N41,

83E03 . In

> my horoscope 5th & 10th lord Venus is exalted in 3rd in Pisces .

> Jupiter who is placed in Cancer aspects exalted Venus through his

9th

> aspect .

> On the other hand , According to Mantreswara ,the author

of "Phala

> Deepika" ,the chances are progeny are to be determined by so

called

> Beeja Sphuta (for males) & Progeny tithi-Karana . This was also

> explained by Sri Iranganti Rangacharya in Bangalore's

Astrological

> Magazine . In my horoscope the calculated Beeja sphuta falls in

even

> Sign and in even Navamsa . The calculated Progeny sphuta falls in

> 14th day of dark lunar half & Karana is Vishti . Tithi is Chidra

> tithi and Karana though Chara but it is Bhadra . In every aspect

the

> chances of progeny is nil according to Rangacharya.

>

> Well, my analysis may have subjective apprehensions because the

> chart concerned is my own .But in saptamsa also fifth house falls

in

> Papakartari yoga .

> I would like to put forth this because it may be interesting

to

> research scholors who are dealing these cases. My chart can be

freely

> used for their research purpose .

> Kindly enlighten me in this regard if my query merits answer

and

> remember I am still unmarried.

>

> remains

> Shanmukha

>

>

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Dear Visti,

Thank you very much for your message . You gave me a good advice

in delianating the horoscope. But I must admit that I did not

intended to use this message board for personal chart analysis . If

my message looks like that it may be because of my childishness . In

the last line of your message you told "This happens in your chart.

The remedy is to see the doctor, as there maybe a blockaage in the

fallopian tube." ,but the thing is I am a male .

 

remains

Shanmukha

 

 

 

 

sjvc, "Visti Larsen" <vishnu@l...> wrote:

> Vyam Vyasaadevaaya Namah

>

> --

------------

>

> Dear Shanmukha,

> This group is still not ripe for going into the intricacies of

progeny, and definitely not for chart analysis, of that expected by

some who post their charts here. THIS IS A GROUP OF LEARNING.

>

> But let me teach you something which has todo with delianating

progeny.

> To be able to give birth to children, one should be able to

concieve them.

> Conception is ruled by the 3rd house, and the Arudhas of the 3rd

and 9th houses, rule the physical ability to concieve.

>

> If these Arudhas are placed in 6th/8th or 2nd/12th from Sun, then

theres a physical problem with concieving.

>

> This happens in your chart. The remedy is to see the doctor, as

there maybe a blockaage in the fallopian tube.

>

> Best wishes, Visti.

> -

> teli_sha2002

> sjvc

> Monday, August 26, 2002 1:56 PM

> [sjvc] progeny

>

>

> Namaste Gurudeva,

>

> I would like to put forth the following problem regarding

progeny .

> Of course the following birth data is mine . I was born on early

> hours of May 9th ,1979 at 00:11 hrs at Anakapalle , 17N41,

83E03 . In

> my horoscope 5th & 10th lord Venus is exalted in 3rd in Pisces .

> Jupiter who is placed in Cancer aspects exalted Venus through his

9th

> aspect .

> On the other hand , According to Mantreswara ,the author

of "Phala

> Deepika" ,the chances are progeny are to be determined by so

called

> Beeja Sphuta (for males) & Progeny tithi-Karana . This was also

> explained by Sri Iranganti Rangacharya in Bangalore's

Astrological

> Magazine . In my horoscope the calculated Beeja sphuta falls in

even

> Sign and in even Navamsa . The calculated Progeny sphuta falls in

> 14th day of dark lunar half & Karana is Vishti . Tithi is Chidra

> tithi and Karana though Chara but it is Bhadra . In every aspect

the

> chances of progeny is nil according to Rangacharya.

>

> Well, my analysis may have subjective apprehensions because the

> chart concerned is my own .But in saptamsa also fifth house falls

in

> Papakartari yoga .

> I would like to put forth this because it may be interesting

to

> research scholors who are dealing these cases. My chart can be

freely

> used for their research purpose .

> Kindly enlighten me in this regard if my query merits answer

and

> remember I am still unmarried.

>

> remains

> Shanmukha

>

>

> Sponsor

>

>

>

>

> Terms of

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Vyam Vysadevaaya Namah

Dear Shanmukha,

Sorry, i thought you were female.

Nevertheless the bloackage is still there, see a doctor.

Best wishes, Visti.

-

teli_sha2002

sjvc

Friday, August 30, 2002 8:33 AM

[sjvc] Re: progeny

Dear Visti, Thank you very much for your message . You gave me a good advice

in delianating the horoscope. But I must admit that I did not intended to use

this message board for personal chart analysis . If my message looks like that

it may be because of my childishness . In the last line of your message you

told "This happens in your chart. The remedy is to see the doctor, as there

maybe a blockaage in the fallopian tube." ,but the thing is I am a male .

remainsShanmukhasjvc, "Visti Larsen" <vishnu@l...> wrote:> Vyam

Vyasaadevaaya Namah> >

-->

> Dear Shanmukha,> This group is still not ripe for going into the intricacies

of progeny, and definitely not for chart analysis, of that expected by some who

post their charts here. THIS IS A GROUP OF LEARNING.> > But let me teach you

something which has todo with delianating progeny.> To be able to give birth to

children, one should be able to concieve them.> Conception is ruled by the 3rd

house, and the Arudhas of the 3rd and 9th houses, rule the physical ability to

concieve.> > If these Arudhas are placed in 6th/8th or 2nd/12th from Sun, then

theres a physical problem with concieving.> > This happens in your chart. The

remedy is to see the doctor, as there maybe a blockaage in the fallopian tube.>

> Best wishes, Visti.> - > teli_sha2002 >

sjvc > Monday, August 26, 2002 1:56 PM> [sjvc]

progeny> > > Namaste Gurudeva,> > I would like to put forth the following

problem regarding progeny . > Of course the following birth data is mine . I

was born on early > hours of May 9th ,1979 at 00:11 hrs at Anakapalle ,

17N41, 83E03 . In > my horoscope 5th & 10th lord Venus is exalted in 3rd in

Pisces . > Jupiter who is placed in Cancer aspects exalted Venus through his

9th > aspect .> On the other hand , According to Mantreswara ,the author of

"Phala > Deepika" ,the chances are progeny are to be determined by so called >

Beeja Sphuta (for males) & Progeny tithi-Karana . This was also > explained

by Sri Iranganti Rangacharya in Bangalore's Astrological > Magazine . In my

horoscope the calculated Beeja sphuta falls in even > Sign and in even

Navamsa . The calculated Progeny sphuta falls in > 14th day of dark lunar

half & Karana is Vishti . Tithi is Chidra > tithi and Karana though Chara but

it is Bhadra . In every aspect the > chances of progeny is nil according to

Rangacharya.> > Well, my analysis may have subjective apprehensions because

the > chart concerned is my own .But in saptamsa also fifth house falls in >

Papakartari yoga .> I would like to put forth this because it may be

interesting to > research scholors who are dealing these cases. My chart can

be freely > used for their research purpose .> Kindly enlighten me in

this regard if my query merits answer and > remember I am still unmarried.> >

remains> Shanmukha> > > Sponsor >

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