Guest guest Posted August 24, 2002 Report Share Posted August 24, 2002 Jaya Jagannatha Dear Visti, I have a few doubts when the dasa progression starts from the 7th house- 1)If the starting Rasi is in the 7th we analyze the dasas based on their respective 7th houses. But in the case of varga charts can we apply the same principle as the Dasas are initiated by the seed lord OR is this rule specific only toward D-1? 2)In the case of starting from the seventh, does the stronger sign matter here OR are we just taking the seventh from dasa sign for analysis ? this is with regard to D-1. 3)How about antara dasas- does the principle carry forward to every level? Deeply appreciate your help and some light. Hare Krishna Sudharsan Vyam Vyasaadevaaya Namah Dear Mumbai Group, Comments bellow in Blue. - j.k. dasgupta sjvc Saturday, August 24, 2002 1:10 PM [sjvc] 7th meeting proceedings, mumbai chapter Respected Sanjayji, Solaiji, other Gurus and all list members, Our 7th meeting was held on 18.8.02. the same was attended by, 1. Dr. Ramchandani 2. Dr. Ramakrishnan 3. Ashwin 4. Prashanth Achar 5. Praveen Agarwal 6. Aroona 7. Dasguptathe topic of discussion for this meeting was "D1 Narayan Dasa". we started discussion on the same on the horoscope of Aroona-in continuation to the last meeting. The horoscope attached herewith in jhl4.1 format. Our 8th meeting date will be intimated later doubts faced during the discussion is in red. we look for further guidance from you on the same. =============================================== Dasa starts from 7H. MD effects to be seen from 7th of dasa rashi Visti: You state this principle yet never use it. She lost her father in June'1980 She was running Sco maha dasa (14.1.1978 to 1984). Effects are seen from Tau Sco is natal 8th house having PiK Rahu. Also pitri sthirakaraka Sun is aspected by Rahu. So problem is indicated for father. Applying 1/3rd rule: 1st part runs 14.1.78 to 14.1.80, this period rashi will give effect. Sco being a malefic rashi - whole this period her father was suffering from ailments. 2nd part runs 15.1.80 to 14.1.82, this period the rashi lord will give effect. Lord Mars in natal 9H - aspected by Sat. Also Mars is in 2nd from Rahu (PiK), so maraka for her father. Visti: Lord of Taurus; Venus is Sthira Pitri Karaka, and in the 10th(maraka for father). Saturn and Rahu are the enemies of the Sun, and can kill, hence during the Antar Dasa of Gemini, housing Saturn this could have happened. She had a break in her education in Aug'1989 and started service in garment exporting firm She was running Cap maha dasa (14.1.1986 to 1993). Effects are seen from Can. Deha rashi is Cap, Jeeva rashi is Lib, Paka rashi is Gem and Bhoga rashi is Sco (A10 in Sco). Bhoga rashi is aspected by HL, GL and having A10. As time was matured, the rashi is natal 10th and having Sun- start of career is indicated in this period. rahu argala on dasa rashi shows foreign connections (export) Cap is her 10H and a pristhodaya rashi. So the rashi effect will be given at the last 1/3 period (14.1.1990 to 14.1.1993). 1st 1/3 period (14.1.1986 to 14.1.1988) will be rulled by the lord Sat and 2nd 1/3 part (14.1.1988 to 14.1.1990) will be ruled by planets in and aspecting the rashi. Mars (lord of natal 4H, who is in MD rashi) have aspect rahu. It seems this is the reason why she had a break in her education in the 2nd part. Visti: Cancer is the 4th house, and the middle 1/3rd is ruled by Moon its lord. Moon is in the 10th(maraka for formal education) and also shows begining work. Mars and Ketu are the main breakers of education(mercury) and hence during Antar Dasa of Sag, housing Mars this happened. Deha rashi is Cap, Jeeva rashi is Lib, Paka rashi is Gem and Bhoga rashi is Sco (A10 in Sco). Bhoga rashi is aspected by HL, GL and having A10. As time was matured, the rashi is natal 10th and having Sun- start of career is indicated in this period. rahu argala on dasa rashi shows foreign connections (export). So during the 3rd part she was fully in service in export firm. Her Ari MD (14.1.1997 to 2005) Ari is having GL and lord Mars is in 9H from Ari. Ari is prishthodaya rashi, so its effect will be in the last 1/3rd part Applying 1/3rd rule: 1st part runs 14.1.97 to 14.1.99, this period rashi lord will give effect. Lord Mars in natal 9H aspected by retro Sat (lord of A7 & UL). This period she had problem in her relation. 2nd part runs 15.1.99 to 14.1.02, this period the planets aspecting and in the rashi - will give effect. Rashi has Jup aspect and 11th argala as well as Rahu aspect and 8th argala. She started her own export business in this dasa (Jup-expansive and Rahu-foreign connection). She was also drawn to astrology during this period. 3rd part runs 15.1.02 to 14.1.05, this period rashi will give effect. Rashi has GL, A9 & A4. This period should be a happy and fortunate one for her. A9 in rashi may also indicate lot of travels during this period. Tau sub shall run from 15.5.02 to 14.1.03. Tau has Ketu. This period should give her marriage. But it seems that MD period do not support this. Can this period still give marriage? Visti: Reckon from Libra. Keep in mind that she has untainted Pravrayja Yoga in the 10th, joining Upapada and Darapada. I think a Sagely Astrologer, gave the following prediction to the Father of Sri Buddha Avatara, due to this combination: "Either this person will become a great king, or will renounce the world". So either she will marry a very powerful person, or will not marry at all.. the latter depends on Atmakaraka. Good to see your brains burning ignorrance.. there was a lot of small points here.. get to know the karakas better. Best wishes, Visti. =============================================== Discussion will continue in the next meeting based on further guidence received from you.. Regads dasgupta Your use of is subject to the Finance - Get real-time stock quotes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2002 Report Share Posted August 25, 2002 Vyam Vyasadevaaya Namah Dear Sudarsan, This has been answered previously by Sanjay Prabhakaran & Narayan Iyer on this list. I have answered bellow. - Sudharsan Srinivasan sjvc Saturday, August 24, 2002 3:32 PM Re: [sjvc] 7th meeting proceedings-Visti Hare Rama Krishna Jaya Jagannatha Dear Visti, I have a few doubts when the dasa progression starts from the 7th house- 1)If the starting Rasi is in the 7th we analyze the dasas based on their respective 7th houses. But in the case of varga charts can we apply the same principle as the Dasas are initiated by the seed lord OR is this rule specific only toward D-1? In D-1 we are seeing the progression of the lagna, hence its important to see 1/7, to see where the temporal-lagna is. However in D-charts we aren't seeing the progression of lagna. 2)In the case of starting from the seventh, does the stronger sign matter here OR are we just taking the seventh from dasa sign for analysis ? this is with regard to D-1. If the 7th sign is stronger than lagna, start dasa's from the 7th. Similarly then we should reckon results from the opposite sign of dasa rasi. 3)How about antara dasas- does the principle carry forward to every level? No They aren't based on the progression of lagna. Deeply appreciate your help and some light. Hare Krishna Best wishes, Visti. Sudharsan Vyam Vyasaadevaaya Namah Dear Mumbai Group, Comments bellow in Blue. - j.k. dasgupta sjvc Saturday, August 24, 2002 1:10 PM [sjvc] 7th meeting proceedings, mumbai chapter Respected Sanjayji, Solaiji, other Gurus and all list members, Our 7th meeting was held on 18.8.02. the same was attended by, 1. Dr. Ramchandani 2. Dr. Ramakrishnan 3. Ashwin 4. Prashanth Achar 5. Praveen Agarwal 6. Aroona 7. Dasguptathe topic of discussion for this meeting was "D1 Narayan Dasa". we started discussion on the same on the horoscope of Aroona-in continuation to the last meeting. The horoscope attached herewith in jhl4.1 format. Our 8th meeting date will be intimated later doubts faced during the discussion is in red. we look for further guidance from you on the same. =============================================== Dasa starts from 7H. MD effects to be seen from 7th of dasa rashi Visti: You state this principle yet never use it. She lost her father in June'1980 She was running Sco maha dasa (14.1.1978 to 1984). Effects are seen from Tau Sco is natal 8th house having PiK Rahu. Also pitri sthirakaraka Sun is aspected by Rahu. So problem is indicated for father. Applying 1/3rd rule: 1st part runs 14.1.78 to 14.1.80, this period rashi will give effect. Sco being a malefic rashi - whole this period her father was suffering from ailments. 2nd part runs 15.1.80 to 14.1.82, this period the rashi lord will give effect. Lord Mars in natal 9H - aspected by Sat. Also Mars is in 2nd from Rahu (PiK), so maraka for her father. Visti: Lord of Taurus; Venus is Sthira Pitri Karaka, and in the 10th(maraka for father). Saturn and Rahu are the enemies of the Sun, and can kill, hence during the Antar Dasa of Gemini, housing Saturn this could have happened. She had a break in her education in Aug'1989 and started service in garment exporting firm She was running Cap maha dasa (14.1.1986 to 1993). Effects are seen from Can. Deha rashi is Cap, Jeeva rashi is Lib, Paka rashi is Gem and Bhoga rashi is Sco (A10 in Sco). Bhoga rashi is aspected by HL, GL and having A10. As time was matured, the rashi is natal 10th and having Sun- start of career is indicated in this period. rahu argala on dasa rashi shows foreign connections (export) Cap is her 10H and a pristhodaya rashi. So the rashi effect will be given at the last 1/3 period (14.1.1990 to 14.1.1993). 1st 1/3 period (14.1.1986 to 14.1.1988) will be rulled by the lord Sat and 2nd 1/3 part (14.1.1988 to 14.1.1990) will be ruled by planets in and aspecting the rashi. Mars (lord of natal 4H, who is in MD rashi) have aspect rahu. It seems this is the reason why she had a break in her education in the 2nd part. Visti: Cancer is the 4th house, and the middle 1/3rd is ruled by Moon its lord. Moon is in the 10th(maraka for formal education) and also shows begining work. Mars and Ketu are the main breakers of education(mercury) and hence during Antar Dasa of Sag, housing Mars this happened. Deha rashi is Cap, Jeeva rashi is Lib, Paka rashi is Gem and Bhoga rashi is Sco (A10 in Sco). Bhoga rashi is aspected by HL, GL and having A10. As time was matured, the rashi is natal 10th and having Sun- start of career is indicated in this period. rahu argala on dasa rashi shows foreign connections (export). So during the 3rd part she was fully in service in export firm. Her Ari MD (14.1.1997 to 2005) Ari is having GL and lord Mars is in 9H from Ari. Ari is prishthodaya rashi, so its effect will be in the last 1/3rd part Applying 1/3rd rule: 1st part runs 14.1.97 to 14.1.99, this period rashi lord will give effect. Lord Mars in natal 9H aspected by retro Sat (lord of A7 & UL). This period she had problem in her relation. 2nd part runs 15.1.99 to 14.1.02, this period the planets aspecting and in the rashi - will give effect. Rashi has Jup aspect and 11th argala as well as Rahu aspect and 8th argala. She started her own export business in this dasa (Jup-expansive and Rahu-foreign connection). She was also drawn to astrology during this period. 3rd part runs 15.1.02 to 14.1.05, this period rashi will give effect. Rashi has GL, A9 & A4. This period should be a happy and fortunate one for her. A9 in rashi may also indicate lot of travels during this period. Tau sub shall run from 15.5.02 to 14.1.03. Tau has Ketu. This period should give her marriage. But it seems that MD period do not support this. Can this period still give marriage? Visti: Reckon from Libra. Keep in mind that she has untainted Pravrayja Yoga in the 10th, joining Upapada and Darapada. I think a Sagely Astrologer, gave the following prediction to the Father of Sri Buddha Avatara, due to this combination: "Either this person will become a great king, or will renounce the world". So either she will marry a very powerful person, or will not marry at all.. the latter depends on Atmakaraka. Good to see your brains burning ignorrance.. there was a lot of small points here.. get to know the karakas better. Best wishes, Visti. =============================================== Discussion will continue in the next meeting based on further guidence received from you.. Regads dasgupta Your use of is subject to the Finance - Get real-time stock quotes Your use of Groups is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2002 Report Share Posted August 27, 2002 Aum Namah Sivaya, The answers are below: On Sat, 24 Aug 2002 Sudharsan Srinivasan wrote : > >Hare Rama Krishna >Jaya Jagannatha >Dear Visti, >I have a few doubts when the dasa progression starts from the 7th >house- >1)If the starting Rasi is in the 7th we analyze the dasas based >on their respective 7th houses. But in the case of varga charts >can we apply the same principle as the Dasas are initiated by the >seed lord OR is this rule specific only toward D-1? Sarajit: This is applied in the varga charts also. >2)In the case of starting from the seventh, does the stronger >sign matter here OR are we just taking the seventh from dasa sign >for analysis ? this is with regard to D-1. Sarajit: Only the 7th from the dasa sign. >3)How about antara dasas- does the principle carry forward to >every level? Sarajit: Only to the dasa >Deeply appreciate your help and some light. >Hare Krishna >SudharsanVyam Vyasaadevaaya Namah > >Dear Mumbai Group,Comments bellow in Blue.----- Original Message >----- j.k. dasgupta sjvc Sent: >Saturday, August 24, 2002 1:10 PM[sjvc] 7th meeting >proceedings, mumbai chapter >Respected Sanjayji, Solaiji, other Gurus and all list members, >Our 7th meeting was held on 18.8.02. the same was attended by, 1. >Dr. Ramchandani2. Dr. Ramakrishnan 3. Ashwin 4. Prashanth Achar5. >Praveen Agarwal 6. Aroona7. Dasgupta >the topic of discussion for this meeting was "D1 Narayan Dasa". >we started discussion on the same on the horoscope of Aroona-in >continuation to the last meeting. The horoscope attached herewith >in jhl4.1 format. Our 8th meeting date will be intimated later >doubts faced during the discussion is in red. we look for further >guidance from you on the >same.===============================================Dasa starts > from 7H. MD effects to be seen from 7th of dasa rashi Visti: >You state this principle yet never use it. She lost her father in >June'1980She was running Sco maha dasa (14.1.1978 to 1984). >Effects are seen from TauSco is natal 8th house having PiK Rahu. >Also pitri sthirakaraka Sun is aspected by Rahu. So problem is >indicated for father.Applying 1/3rd rule:1st part runs 14.1.78 to >14.1.80, this period rashi will give effect. Sco being a malefic >rashi - whole this period her father was suffering from >ailments.2nd part runs 15.1.80 to 14.1.82, this period the rashi >lord will give effect. Lord Mars in natal 9H - aspected by Sat. >Also Mars is in 2nd from Rahu (PiK), so maraka for her father. >Visti: Lord of Taurus; Venus is Sthira Pitri Karaka, and in >the 10th(maraka for father). Saturn and Rahu are the enemies of >the Sun, and can kill, hence during the Antar Dasa of Gemini, >housing Saturn this could have happened. She had a break in her >education in Aug'1989 and started service in garment exporting >firmShe was running Cap maha dasa (14.1.1986 to 1993). Effects >are seen from Can. Deha rashi is Cap, Jeeva rashi is Lib, Paka >rashi is Gem and Bhoga rashi is Sco (A10 in Sco). Bhoga rashi is >aspected by HL, GL and having A10. As time was matured, the rashi >is natal 10th and having Sun- start of career is indicated in >this period. rahu argala on dasa rashi shows foreign connections >(export)Cap is her 10H and a pristhodaya rashi. So the rashi >effect will be given at the last 1/3 period (14.1.1990 to >14.1.1993). 1st 1/3 period (14.1.1986 to 14.1.1988) will be >rulled by the lord Sat and 2nd 1/3 part (14.1.1988 to 14.1.1990) >will be ruled by planets in and aspecting the rashi.Mars (lord of >natal 4H, who is in MD rashi) have aspect rahu. It seems this is >the reason why she had a break in her education in the 2nd part. >Visti: Cancer is the 4th house, and the middle 1/3rd is ruled >by Moon its lord. Moon is in the 10th(maraka for formal >education) and also shows begining work. Mars and Ketu are the >main breakers of education(mercury) and hence during Antar Dasa >of Sag, housing Mars this happened. Deha rashi is Cap, Jeeva >rashi is Lib, Paka rashi is Gem and Bhoga rashi is Sco (A10 in >Sco). Bhoga rashi is aspected by HL, GL and having A10. As time >was matured, the rashi is natal 10th and having Sun- start of >career is indicated in this period. rahu argala on dasa rashi >shows foreign connections (export). So during the 3rd part she >was fully in service in export firm. Her Ari MD (14.1.1997 to >2005)Ari is having GL and lord Mars is in 9H from Ari. Ari is >prishthodaya rashi, so its effect will be in the last 1/3rd >partApplying 1/3rd rule:1st part runs 14.1.97 to 14.1.99, this >period rashi lord will give effect. Lord Mars in natal 9H >aspected by retro Sat (lord of A7 & UL). This period she had >problem in her relation.2nd part runs 15.1.99 to 14.1.02, this >period the planets aspecting and in the rashi - will give effect. >Rashi has Jup aspect and 11th argala as well as Rahu aspect and >8th argala. She started her own export business in this dasa >(Jup-expansive and Rahu-foreign connection). She was also drawn >to astrology during this period.3rd part runs 15.1.02 to 14.1.05, >this period rashi will give effect. Rashi has GL, A9 & A4. This >period should be a happy and fortunate one for her. A9 in rashi >may also indicate lot of travels during this period.Tau sub shall >run from 15.5.02 to 14.1.03. Tau has Ketu. This period should >give her marriage. But it seems that MD period do not support >this. Can this period still give marriage? Visti: Reckon from >Libra. Keep in mind that she has untainted Pravrayja Yoga in the >10th, joining Upapada and Darapada. I think a Sagely Astrologer, >gave the following prediction to the Father of Sri Buddha >Avatara, due to this combination: "Either this person will become >a great king, or will renounce the world". So either she will >marry a very powerful person, or will not marry at all.. the >latter depends on Atmakaraka. Good to see your brains burning >ignorrance.. there was a lot of small points here.. get to know >the karakas better.Best wishes, Visti. >===============================================Discussion will >continue in the next meeting based on further guidence received > from you.. Regads dasgupta > > Terms of >Service. > > Sponsor > > Terms of >Service. > > > > > > Finance - Get real-time stock quotes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2002 Report Share Posted August 27, 2002 Vyam Vyasaadevaaya Namah Dear Sarajit, >1)If the starting Rasi is in the 7th we analyze the dasas based >on their respective 7th houses. But in the case of varga charts >can we apply the same principle as the Dasas are initiated by the >seed lord OR is this rule specific only toward D-1?Sarajit: This is applied in the varga charts also. I have stated contrary to the above, on the basis that the progression in D-charts isn't the progression of lagna. This is what i've learned, please clarify. Best wishes, Visti. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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