Guest guest Posted August 24, 2002 Report Share Posted August 24, 2002 Respected Sanjayji, Solaiji, other Gurus and all list members, Our 7th meeting was held on 18.8.02. the same was attended by, 1. Dr. Ramchandani 2. Dr. Ramakrishnan 3. Ashwin 4. Prashanth Achar 5. Praveen Agarwal 6. Aroona 7. Dasguptathe topic of discussion for this meeting was "D1 Narayan Dasa". we started discussion on the same on the horoscope of Aroona-in continuation to the last meeting. The horoscope attached herewith in jhl4.1 format. Our 8th meeting date will be intimated later doubts faced during the discussion is in red. we look for further guidance from you on the same. =============================================== Dasa starts from 7H. MD effects to be seen from 7th of dasa rashi She lost her father in June'1980 She was running Sco maha dasa (14.1.1978 to 1984). Effects are seen from Tau Sco is natal 8th house having PiK Rahu. Also pitri sthirakaraka Sun is aspected by Rahu. So problem is indicated for father. Applying 1/3rd rule: 1st part runs 14.1.78 to 14.1.80, this period rashi will give effect. Sco being a malefic rashi - whole this period her father was suffering from ailments. 2nd part runs 15.1.80 to 14.1.82, this period the rashi lord will give effect. Lord Mars in natal 9H - aspected by Sat. Also Mars is in 2nd from Rahu (PiK), so maraka for her father. She had a break in her education in Aug'1989 and started service in garment exporting firm She was running Cap maha dasa (14.1.1986 to 1993). Effects are seen from Can. Deha rashi is Cap, Jeeva rashi is Lib, Paka rashi is Gem and Bhoga rashi is Sco (A10 in Sco). Bhoga rashi is aspected by HL, GL and having A10. As time was matured, the rashi is natal 10th and having Sun- start of career is indicated in this period. rahu argala on dasa rashi shows foreign connections (export) Cap is her 10H and a pristhodaya rashi. So the rashi effect will be given at the last 1/3 period (14.1.1990 to 14.1.1993). 1st 1/3 period (14.1.1986 to 14.1.1988) will be rulled by the lord Sat and 2nd 1/3 part (14.1.1988 to 14.1.1990) will be ruled by planets in and aspecting the rashi. Mars (lord of natal 4H, who is in MD rashi) have aspect rahu. It seems this is the reason why she had a break in her education in the 2nd part. Deha rashi is Cap, Jeeva rashi is Lib, Paka rashi is Gem and Bhoga rashi is Sco (A10 in Sco). Bhoga rashi is aspected by HL, GL and having A10. As time was matured, the rashi is natal 10th and having Sun- start of career is indicated in this period. rahu argala on dasa rashi shows foreign connections (export). So during the 3rd part she was fully in service in export firm. Her Ari MD (14.1.1997 to 2005) Ari is having GL and lord Mars is in 9H from Ari. Ari is prishthodaya rashi, so its effect will be in the last 1/3rd part Applying 1/3rd rule: 1st part runs 14.1.97 to 14.1.99, this period rashi lord will give effect. Lord Mars in natal 9H aspected by retro Sat (lord of A7 & UL). This period she had problem in her relation. 2nd part runs 15.1.99 to 14.1.02, this period the planets aspecting and in the rashi - will give effect. Rashi has Jup aspect and 11th argala as well as Rahu aspect and 8th argala. She started her own export business in this dasa (Jup-expansive and Rahu-foreign connection). She was also drawn to astrology during this period. 3rd part runs 15.1.02 to 14.1.05, this period rashi will give effect. Rashi has GL, A9 & A4. This period should be a happy and fortunate one for her. A9 in rashi may also indicate lot of travels during this period. Tau sub shall run from 15.5.02 to 14.1.03. Tau has Ketu. This period should give her marriage. But it seems that MD period do not support this. Can this period still give marriage? =============================================== Discussion will continue in the next meeting based on further guidence received from you.. Regads dasgupta Attachment: (application/octet-stream) aroona.jhd [not stored] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2002 Report Share Posted August 24, 2002 Vyam Vyasaadevaaya Namah Dear Mumbai Group, Comments bellow in Blue. - j.k. dasgupta sjvc Saturday, August 24, 2002 1:10 PM [sjvc] 7th meeting proceedings, mumbai chapter Respected Sanjayji, Solaiji, other Gurus and all list members, Our 7th meeting was held on 18.8.02. the same was attended by, 1. Dr. Ramchandani 2. Dr. Ramakrishnan 3. Ashwin 4. Prashanth Achar 5. Praveen Agarwal 6. Aroona 7. Dasguptathe topic of discussion for this meeting was "D1 Narayan Dasa". we started discussion on the same on the horoscope of Aroona-in continuation to the last meeting. The horoscope attached herewith in jhl4.1 format. Our 8th meeting date will be intimated later doubts faced during the discussion is in red. we look for further guidance from you on the same. =============================================== Dasa starts from 7H. MD effects to be seen from 7th of dasa rashi Visti: You state this principle yet never use it. She lost her father in June'1980 She was running Sco maha dasa (14.1.1978 to 1984). Effects are seen from Tau Sco is natal 8th house having PiK Rahu. Also pitri sthirakaraka Sun is aspected by Rahu. So problem is indicated for father. Applying 1/3rd rule: 1st part runs 14.1.78 to 14.1.80, this period rashi will give effect. Sco being a malefic rashi - whole this period her father was suffering from ailments. 2nd part runs 15.1.80 to 14.1.82, this period the rashi lord will give effect. Lord Mars in natal 9H - aspected by Sat. Also Mars is in 2nd from Rahu (PiK), so maraka for her father. Visti: Lord of Taurus; Venus is Sthira Pitri Karaka, and in the 10th(maraka for father). Saturn and Rahu are the enemies of the Sun, and can kill, hence during the Antar Dasa of Gemini, housing Saturn this could have happened. She had a break in her education in Aug'1989 and started service in garment exporting firm She was running Cap maha dasa (14.1.1986 to 1993). Effects are seen from Can. Deha rashi is Cap, Jeeva rashi is Lib, Paka rashi is Gem and Bhoga rashi is Sco (A10 in Sco). Bhoga rashi is aspected by HL, GL and having A10. As time was matured, the rashi is natal 10th and having Sun- start of career is indicated in this period. rahu argala on dasa rashi shows foreign connections (export) Cap is her 10H and a pristhodaya rashi. So the rashi effect will be given at the last 1/3 period (14.1.1990 to 14.1.1993). 1st 1/3 period (14.1.1986 to 14.1.1988) will be rulled by the lord Sat and 2nd 1/3 part (14.1.1988 to 14.1.1990) will be ruled by planets in and aspecting the rashi. Mars (lord of natal 4H, who is in MD rashi) have aspect rahu. It seems this is the reason why she had a break in her education in the 2nd part. Visti: Cancer is the 4th house, and the middle 1/3rd is ruled by Moon its lord. Moon is in the 10th(maraka for formal education) and also shows begining work. Mars and Ketu are the main breakers of education(mercury) and hence during Antar Dasa of Sag, housing Mars this happened. Deha rashi is Cap, Jeeva rashi is Lib, Paka rashi is Gem and Bhoga rashi is Sco (A10 in Sco). Bhoga rashi is aspected by HL, GL and having A10. As time was matured, the rashi is natal 10th and having Sun- start of career is indicated in this period. rahu argala on dasa rashi shows foreign connections (export). So during the 3rd part she was fully in service in export firm. Her Ari MD (14.1.1997 to 2005) Ari is having GL and lord Mars is in 9H from Ari. Ari is prishthodaya rashi, so its effect will be in the last 1/3rd part Applying 1/3rd rule: 1st part runs 14.1.97 to 14.1.99, this period rashi lord will give effect. Lord Mars in natal 9H aspected by retro Sat (lord of A7 & UL). This period she had problem in her relation. 2nd part runs 15.1.99 to 14.1.02, this period the planets aspecting and in the rashi - will give effect. Rashi has Jup aspect and 11th argala as well as Rahu aspect and 8th argala. She started her own export business in this dasa (Jup-expansive and Rahu-foreign connection). She was also drawn to astrology during this period. 3rd part runs 15.1.02 to 14.1.05, this period rashi will give effect. Rashi has GL, A9 & A4. This period should be a happy and fortunate one for her. A9 in rashi may also indicate lot of travels during this period. Tau sub shall run from 15.5.02 to 14.1.03. Tau has Ketu. This period should give her marriage. But it seems that MD period do not support this. Can this period still give marriage? Visti: Reckon from Libra. Keep in mind that she has untainted Pravrayja Yoga in the 10th, joining Upapada and Darapada. I think a Sagely Astrologer, gave the following prediction to the Father of Sri Buddha Avatara, due to this combination: "Either this person will become a great king, or will renounce the world". So either she will marry a very powerful person, or will not marry at all.. the latter depends on Atmakaraka. Good to see your brains burning ignorrance.. there was a lot of small points here.. get to know the karakas better. Best wishes, Visti. =============================================== Discussion will continue in the next meeting based on further guidence received from you.. Regads dasgupta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2002 Report Share Posted August 26, 2002 dear visti, many thanks for the comments. further doubts are in bold green jk - Visti Larsen sjvc Saturday, August 24, 2002 6:07 PM Re: [sjvc] 7th meeting proceedings, mumbai chapter Vyam Vyasaadevaaya Namah Dear Mumbai Group, Comments bellow in Blue. - j.k. dasgupta sjvc Saturday, August 24, 2002 1:10 PM [sjvc] 7th meeting proceedings, mumbai chapter Respected Sanjayji, Solaiji, other Gurus and all list members, Our 7th meeting was held on 18.8.02. the same was attended by, 1. Dr. Ramchandani 2. Dr. Ramakrishnan 3. Ashwin 4. Prashanth Achar 5. Praveen Agarwal 6. Aroona 7. Dasguptathe topic of discussion for this meeting was "D1 Narayan Dasa". we started discussion on the same on the horoscope of Aroona-in continuation to the last meeting. The horoscope attached herewith in jhl4.1 format. Our 8th meeting date will be intimated later doubts faced during the discussion is in red. we look for further guidance from you on the same. =============================================== Dasa starts from 7H. MD effects to be seen from 7th of dasa rashi Visti: You state this principle yet never use it. She lost her father in June'1980 She was running Sco maha dasa (14.1.1978 to 1984). Effects are seen from Tau Sco is natal 8th house having PiK Rahu. Also pitri sthirakaraka Sun is aspected by Rahu. So problem is indicated for father. Applying 1/3rd rule: 1st part runs 14.1.78 to 14.1.80, this period rashi will give effect. Sco being a malefic rashi - whole this period her father was suffering from ailments. 2nd part runs 15.1.80 to 14.1.82, this period the rashi lord will give effect. Lord Mars in natal 9H - aspected by Sat. Also Mars is in 2nd from Rahu (PiK), so maraka for her father. Visti: Lord of Taurus; Venus is Sthira Pitri Karaka, and in the 10th(maraka for father). Saturn and Rahu are the enemies of the Sun, and can kill, hence during the Antar Dasa of Gemini, housing Saturn this could have happened. jk: it is not clear why you are considering lord of taurus. is it because effects are to be seen from taurus? but our understanding is that in such case only the 7th hse from dasa will be taken as temp. lagna. everything else will remain same. for example, in this case rasi effects will be that of scorpio and when the rashi lord will give result, the placement of the lord of scorpio i.e mars w.r.t. taurus have to be seen. please correct if we are wrong. yes, venus and sun both are sthira pitri karaka. but who will actually act as the karaka in a chart? we see that you have used both here. also as my understanding goes...stronger of the sthira karakas has to be considered only in case of shoola dasa. can you please throw more light on this? She had a break in her education in Aug'1989 and started service in garment exporting firm She was running Cap maha dasa (14.1.1986 to 1993). Effects are seen from Can. Deha rashi is Cap, Jeeva rashi is Lib, Paka rashi is Gem and Bhoga rashi is Sco (A10 in Sco). Bhoga rashi is aspected by HL, GL and having A10. As time was matured, the rashi is natal 10th and having Sun- start of career is indicated in this period. rahu argala on dasa rashi shows foreign connections (export) Cap is her 10H and a pristhodaya rashi. So the rashi effect will be given at the last 1/3 period (14.1.1990 to 14.1.1993). 1st 1/3 period (14.1.1986 to 14.1.1988) will be rulled by the lord Sat and 2nd 1/3 part (14.1.1988 to 14.1.1990) will be ruled by planets in and aspecting the rashi. Mars (lord of natal 4H, who is in MD rashi) have aspect rahu. It seems this is the reason why she had a break in her education in the 2nd part. Visti: Cancer is the 4th house, and the middle 1/3rd is ruled by Moon its lord. Moon is in the 10th(maraka for formal education) and also shows begining work. Mars and Ketu are the main breakers of education(mercury) and hence during Antar Dasa of Sag, housing Mars this happened. jk: here also Cn is the 7th house. can we consider the position of 7th lord to give effect? more over cancer is a pristhodayo rashi. so the rashi effect should be at the last 1/3rd portion. hence the lord should give effect in the 1st 1/3rd and the planets aspecting & in the rashi should give effect in the 2nd 1/3rd poation. please correct us, if we are wrong. in her case-the break was in the 10th standard school education. so i think that 4th house affliction should be seen here. Deha rashi is Cap, Jeeva rashi is Lib, Paka rashi is Gem and Bhoga rashi is Sco (A10 in Sco). Bhoga rashi is aspected by HL, GL and having A10. As time was matured, the rashi is natal 10th and having Sun- start of career is indicated in this period. rahu argala on dasa rashi shows foreign connections (export). So during the 3rd part she was fully in service in export firm. Good to see your brains burning ignorrance.. there was a lot of small points here.. get to know the karakas better. jk: what are the small points we should consider further? Best wishes, Visti. =============================================== Discussion will continue in the next meeting based on further guidence received from you.. Regads dasgupta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2002 Report Share Posted September 2, 2002 Vyam Vyasaadevaaya Namah Dear JK and list, jk: it is not clear why you are considering lord of taurus. is it because effects are to be seen from taurus? but our understanding is that in such case only the 7th hse from dasa will be taken as temp. lagna. everything else will remain same. for example, in this case rasi effects will be that of scorpio and when the rashi lord will give result, the placement of the lord of scorpio i.e mars w.r.t. taurus have to be seen. please correct if we are wrong. Visti: Treat the opposite sign as Dasa Rasi, hence see lord, sign and planets aspectin/joining, from the opposite sign. yes, venus and sun both are sthira pitri karaka. but who will actually act as the karaka in a chart? we see that you have used both here. also as my understanding goes...stronger of the sthira karakas has to be considered only in case of shoola dasa. can you please throw more light on this? jk: here also Cn is the 7th house. can we consider the position of 7th lord to give effect? more over cancer is a pristhodayo rashi. so the rashi effect should be at the last 1/3rd portion. hence the lord should give effect in the 1st 1/3rd and the planets aspecting & in the rashi should give effect in the 2nd 1/3rd poation. please correct us, if we are wrong. Visti: Read Gurudevs book; Narayana Dasa. in her case-the break was in the 10th standard school education. so i think that 4th house affliction should be seen here. Visti: Yes. Best wishes, Visti. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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