Re:[IndianCivilization]Names of days & months in Rg Veda

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> We borrowed the day names from the Greco-roman

> world. Before that we only labeled days by tithis.

>

 

Is there scientific evidence for these two claims?

Were not these first proclaimed with no evidence by

18th century Europeans who knew zero on jyOtiSa or

hOma practices?

 

An unbiased examination of jyOtiSa texts, practices,

and hOma ritual practices suggests the contrary.

 

jyOtiSa had and still has the naming scheme for 24

hOrA-s. It is based on the "observed speeds" of

motions of the 7 visible graha-s wrt nakSatra

reference (this sequence in increasing speed is:

shani, guru, kuja, ravi, shukra, buDha, chandra).

 

The vAra names ASSIGNED in jyOtiSa come from this hOrA

naming scheme (first hOrA of the day is the name for

the day). It is geospecific. It can't be the

other way around, since the hOrA names are sequential

to observed speeds of the graha-s, while the vAra

names are not. If vAra names pre-date hOrA names, what

is the basis?

 

Hence hOrA naming must have come first in some very

ancient (most likely pre-Greek, pre-Sumer) society.

 

Also, one 7-day cycle is one full cycle of the hOrA

names (2x3x4x7) wrt sunrise/sunset, etc. at any given

location. 2x3x5x7 is the similar scheme of 30

muhUrta names cycling in 7 vAra-s - all elimentary

stuff in jyOtiSa as well as in today's maths of

relative prime numbers. Thus, the hOrA (or muhUrta)

name at sunrise specifies our location wrt solar orb.

In jyOtiSa, hOrA or muhUrta is geospecific. Our

notion of "hour" or Greek "hora" is not geospecific,

so one has to be careful not to mix up.

 

The word "graha" means: it stands for something whose

observed shape changes cyclically - hence ravi,

chandra, kuja, buDha, guru, shukra, and shani

are graha-s - all visibly going through cycles of

phase changes - ritually represented in hOma-s by

cups that get filled and emptied. But such cups

(drONa-s) are not graha-s - they are symbolic.

 

Note: "planet" is not translation for the word

"graha". Does any Vedic text have a

word that speficically means "planet", i.e., that goes

around Sun or any star? Any specific word for "moon",

i.e., that goes around any planet?

 

Connection between hOrA and ahOrAtra as per jyOtiSa:

 

It is in the word a-hOrA-tra itself; "a" is the

beginning, "tra" is the end in shabda or varNamAlA;

"atra" means here, i.e., back to the starting point.

ahOrAtra is the beginning-to-ending linking process, a

cycle, with hOrA between "a" and

"tra". This is so explained by sage Parashara in his

works. Most village jyOtiSa-s know this in

jyOtiSa 101 lesson.

 

How does this compare with the Greeco-Roman notion of

"hora" or hour?

 

Why was the ahOrAtra divided into 24 divisions in

jyOtiSa? Why was the day-night cycle divided into 24

divisions in the Greeco-Roman world?

 

How and on what basis were the 24 hora-s named by the

Greeks if they ever did? Is there any Greek text or

ritual that throws light on this?

 

Correct and scientific answers to these questions may

reveal as to where the vAra idea originally developed,

and I am sure most of us can figure the truth

out. Rest may be baseless claims and rival doctrines

fooling the unscientific masses as in the past and

present newsgroups.

 

 

 

 

 

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