Combined Lesson

[Guest guest]

Dear Visti,

I have read all 5 lessons and below is my attempt:

Assignment:

>Determine the other results of Saturns placement in the 4th house. >I.e. how

will it affect; Education, the Mind, Sukha, Lands, Buildings, >Vehicles, etc.

>Best wishes, Visti.

Karaka for Education is Mercury. Saturn is neutral towards Mercury. Placement

of Saturn in the 4th house from lagna or 4th house from Mercury could disrupt

progress in education in Dasa of Saturn or Mercury. 4th house placement of

Saturn will make Saturn enemy as per Temporary relations.

Karaka for the Mind (1st house from Moon) is Moon (Sattvic). Saturn's placement

with Moon will decrease Sattvic thoughts and replace/increase Tamasic mental

activity. Emotions and peace of mind are 4th house significations. Saturn's

placement there or 4th from the Moon (Enemy - temporal relationship) will

decrease mental peace and increase emotional instability.

Sukha is seen as Jupiter's 4th house Karaka. Saturn in the 4th house or 4th from

Jupiter will likely disturb happiness.

Karaka of Lands is Mars. Saturn in the 4th house or 4th from Mars will likely

affect bring misfortune or arguments from landed property.

Karaka for Buildings is Ketu. Saturn in the 4th house or 4th from Ketu would

result in problems related to Buildings/House. (Saturn in the neutral but 4th

house from Saturn would make it a Temporary enemy)

Vehicles/Pleasures is Venus' 4th house Karaka. Saturn is a friend of Venus.

Saturn in the 4th house or 4th from Venus would result in pleasures and luxury

from various activities for the native and give him happiness from

vehicle/conveyances.

Thank you for your time in teaching.

Ashwin.

[Guest guest]

Dear Visti,

 

Om Sri Sai Ram.

 

Here is my attempt of the assignment.

Assignment:

Determine the other results of Saturns placement in the 4th house.

I.e. how will it affect; Education, the Mind, Sukha, Lands,

Buildings, Vehicles, etc.

 

Answer:

Saturn will further the significations of the planets it is friendly

to and will harm the significations of the planets it is enemical to.

Saturn is friends with Ve, Me and Ra, nuetral to Jup and ememical to

Sun, Moon, Mars and Ketu.

Sat in 4H will provide many vehicles and luxuries, good education,

many maternal relatives and a happy childhood(Ve,Me,Jup).It will harm

the mother's health and well being(Mo).It will inhibit the

acquisition of lands and buildings and provide a shabby and unclean

home(Mars, Ketu).

 

Sat in the 4H will give argala and aspect to the 1H giving the native

a sorrowful and dull disposition. Its argala on the 3H will make him

courageous. Its argala and aspect to the 6H will make the enemies

strong. Its argala to the 12H will cause poor sleep and argala to the

9H will harm father's health and give long distance travels.

 

Regards,

Saraswathy

 

 

 

sjvc, "Visti Larsen" <vlarsen@h...> wrote:

> vyam vedavyssaaya namah

>

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>

> Dear List,

> For those interested heres a combined lesson of the 2 lessons

previously completed by Vishwa.

>

> By understanding the karakas of the various houses, we can see the

results of other planets affecting these houses.

>

> i.e. 9th house is the house of father, and the Karaka for father is

Sun. Hence Saturn, being enimical to Sun, if placed in the 9th house,

will be very enimical towards the fathers health.

>

> Similarly Saturn in the 4th house will damage mothers health, as

its very enimical towards the same.

>

> Assignment:

> Determine the other results of Saturns placement in the 4th house.

I.e. how will it affect; Education, the Mind, Sukha, Lands,

Buildings, Vehicles, etc.

>

> Best wishes, Visti.

[Guest guest]

vyam vedavyasaaya namah

Dear Ashwin & Saraswaty,

Excellent answers. Ashwin i didn't include Tatkalika Sambandha into the lesson, wait with that.

 

Saraswatys answers were most correct, hence i will make the necessary corrections in it.

Here is my attempt of the assignment.Assignment:Determine the other results of

Saturns placement in the 4th house. I.e. how will it affect; Education, the

Mind, Sukha, Lands, Buildings, Vehicles, etc.Answer:Saturn will further the

significations of the planets it is friendly to and will harm the

significations of the planets it is enemical to. Saturn is friends with Ve, Me

and Ra, nuetral to Jup and ememical to Sun, Moon, Mars and Ketu.

Sat in 4H will provide many vehicles and luxuries, good education, many maternal

relatives and a happy childhood(Ve,Me,Jup).It will harm the mother's health and

well being(Mo).It will inhibit the acquisition of lands and buildings and

provide a shabby and unclean home(Mars, Ketu).

Visti: Saturn in 4th will not provide happy childhood, as it causes the

debilitation of Jupiter(Sukha) and is enimical towards the moon. The person

will have a cold heart, maybe due to a shock in childhood(Lagna, 2nd and 4th

shows the upbringing/childhood).

The education will be good, but will be very strict, where the teacher uses the

cane, as thats Saturns nature.

Sat in the 4H will give argala and aspect to the 1H giving the native a

sorrowful and dull disposition.

 

Visti: Naturally all said about the placement in 4th, will influence the

lagna, through argala.

 

Its argala on the 3H will make him courageous.

Its argala and aspect to the 6H will make the enemies strong.

 

Visti: Saturn hates Mars(karaka of satru) and will destroy the enemies, and

give many subordinates(Karaka - Saturn)

 

Its argala to the 12H will cause poor sleep and argala to the

9H will harm father's health and give long distance travels.

Visti: Allthough Argala wasn't a part of the lesson, you have answered it

well. As you can see Karakas are most vital in astrology in understanding the

influence of planets. You will note that i added such implications regarding

Saturn causing Jupiters debilitation and etc, this is also important in judging

the effects.

 

We can continue in this regard..

Lets take 2nd house. Which grahas are Karakas for; Eyes, Wealth, Speech, Food & Family?

Best wishes, Visti.

[Guest guest]

Dear Visiti,

 

Here is my answer to the combined lesson:

 

>Assignment:

>Determine the other results of Saturns placement in the 4th house. >I.e.

>how will it affect; Education, the Mind, Sukha, Lands, Buildings,

> >Vehicles, etc.

 

Answer

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Saturn's relationships as concluded in the previous assignment is as

follows:

 

Friends: mercury, venus

Neutral: jupiter

Enemies: mars, moon, sun

 

Education: Mercury is the karaka. Mercury and Saturn are good friends. So,

the placement of saturn in mercury will give one a good formal education.

Schooling should take place with ease.

 

Mind: Moon is the karaka - Saturn and Moon are enemies. So, the Saturn's

placement in the 4th house would give rise to fear and the individual will

be emotional by nature. Since, moon also governs mother, will the placement

of saturn in this house affect the relationship with one's mother?

 

Sukha: Jupiter is the karaka - Saturn and Jupiter share a neutral

relationship. So, what does this mean? Am I right in saying that it will

neither enhance nor disturb ones happiness? But, since Saturn is a natural

malefic maybe it will cause delayed happiness. Would that be right?

 

Lands: Mars is the karaka - Mars and Saturn are enemies. So, the native

would have difficulty in acquiring lands.

 

Buildings: Ketu is the karaka - From BPHS, I read that Ketu and Saturn are

friends. So, though there would be a problem in acquiring lands, I think

there should be no problem with respect to buildings. The native would be

able to acquire buildings with ease.

 

Vehicles: Venus - Saturn and Venus are friends. So, the native will enjoy

various pleasures and will also have the luxury of vehicles.

 

regards,

vishwa.

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

OM

 

Dear Visti,

 

 

> We can continue in this regard..

> Lets take 2nd house. Which grahas are Karakas for; Eyes, Wealth,

Speech, Food & Family?

 

Here are the 2H Karakas

 

Eyes – Sun

Wealth – Jupiter

Speech – Mercury

Food - Moon

Family – Venus

 

Best Wishes,

 

Ashwin.

[Guest guest]

vyam vedavyasaaya namah

Dear Ashwin,

Eye-sight is Sun, but eye-balls are Venus. This is a normal confusion, but is

necessary for the prediction.

 

Why would family be Venus?

I will answer when i get back from Ireland.

 

Best wishes, Visti.

 

-

kash2364

sjvc

Friday, August 09, 2002 4:00 AM

[sjvc] Re: Combined Lesson

OMDear Visti,> We can continue in this regard..> Lets take 2nd house. Which

grahas are Karakas for; Eyes, Wealth, Speech, Food & Family?Here are the 2H

KarakasEyes – SunWealth – JupiterSpeech – MercuryFood - MoonFamily – VenusBest

Wishes,Ashwin. Terms of

Service.

[Guest guest]

Om Gurave Namah

 

The Karaka for Family would be Jupiter

 

Regards

 

Hari

-

Visti Larsen

sjvc

Friday, August 09, 2002 1:24 PM

Re: [sjvc] Re: Combined Lesson

vyam vedavyasaaya namah

Dear Ashwin,

Eye-sight is Sun, but eye-balls are Venus. This is a normal confusion, but is

necessary for the prediction.

 

Why would family be Venus?

I will answer when i get back from Ireland.

 

Best wishes, Visti.

 

-

kash2364

sjvc

Friday, August 09, 2002 4:00 AM

[sjvc] Re: Combined Lesson

OMDear Visti,> We can continue in this regard..> Lets take 2nd house. Which

grahas are Karakas for; Eyes, Wealth, Speech, Food & Family?Here are the 2H

KarakasEyes – SunWealth – JupiterSpeech – MercuryFood -

MoonFamily – VenusBest Wishes,Ashwin.Your use of is subject

to the Your use of is subject to the

 

[Guest guest]

OM

 

Dear Visti and Hari,

 

> The Karaka for Family would be Jupiter

 

Thank you. I chose Venus as Family is bonded by Love and

reproductive lineage.

 

Ashwin.

 

 

 

sjvc, "Katti Narahari" <katti_narahari@h...> wrote:

> Om Gurave Namah

>

> The Karaka for Family would be Jupiter

>

> Regards

>

> Hari

> -

> Visti Larsen

> sjvc

> Friday, August 09, 2002 1:24 PM

> Re: [sjvc] Re: Combined Lesson

>

>

> vyam vedavyasaaya namah

>

> -

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>

> Dear Ashwin,

> Eye-sight is Sun, but eye-balls are Venus. This is a normal

confusion, but is necessary for the prediction.

>

> Why would family be Venus?

> I will answer when i get back from Ireland.

>

> Best wishes, Visti.

>

> -

> kash2364

> sjvc

> Friday, August 09, 2002 4:00 AM

> [sjvc] Re: Combined Lesson

>

>

> OM

>

> Dear Visti,

>

>

> > We can continue in this regard..

> > Lets take 2nd house. Which grahas are Karakas for; Eyes,

Wealth,

> Speech, Food & Family?

>

> Here are the 2H Karakas

>

> Eyes - Sun

> Wealth - Jupiter

> Speech - Mercury

> Food - Moon

> Family - Venus

>

> Best Wishes,

>

> Ashwin.

>

>

>

>

>

> Terms of

Service.

>

>

> Sponsor

>

>

>

>

> Terms of

Service.

[Guest guest]

Dear Visti,

 

"SARAS: Its argala and aspect to the 6H will make the enemies strong.

VISTI: Saturn hates Mars(karaka of satru) and will destroy the

enemies, and give many subordinates(Karaka - Saturn)"

 

According to "(j) in Pg 15, Narayana dasa ", won't the 3rd argala by

malefics on the 6H make the enemies strong irrespective of whether

the planets are inimical to the house?

 

Regards,

Saraswathy

 

sjvc, "Visti Larsen" <vlarsen@h...> wrote:

> vyam vedavyasaaya namah

>

> --

------------

>

> Dear Ashwin & Saraswaty,

> Excellent answers. Ashwin i didn't include Tatkalika Sambandha into

the lesson, wait with that.

>

> Saraswatys answers were most correct, hence i will make the

necessary corrections in it.

>

> Here is my attempt of the assignment.

> Assignment:

> Determine the other results of Saturns placement in the 4th house.

> I.e. how will it affect; Education, the Mind, Sukha, Lands,

> Buildings, Vehicles, etc.

>

> Answer:

> Saturn will further the significations of the planets it is

friendly

> to and will harm the significations of the planets it is enemical

to.

> Saturn is friends with Ve, Me and Ra, nuetral to Jup and ememical

to

> Sun, Moon, Mars and Ketu.

>

> Sat in 4H will provide many vehicles and luxuries, good education,

> many maternal relatives and a happy childhood(Ve,Me,Jup).It will

harm

> the mother's health and well being(Mo).It will inhibit the

> acquisition of lands and buildings and provide a shabby and unclean

> home(Mars, Ketu).

>

> Visti: Saturn in 4th will not provide happy childhood, as it

causes the debilitation of Jupiter(Sukha) and is enimical towards the

moon. The person will have a cold heart, maybe due to a shock in

childhood(Lagna, 2nd and 4th shows the upbringing/childhood).

> The education will be good, but will be very strict, where the

teacher uses the cane, as thats Saturns nature.

>

> Sat in the 4H will give argala and aspect to the 1H giving the

native

> a sorrowful and dull disposition.

>

> Visti: Naturally all said about the placement in 4th, will

influence the lagna, through argala.

>

> Its argala on the 3H will make him courageous.

> Its argala and aspect to the 6H will make the enemies strong.

>

> Visti: Saturn hates Mars(karaka of satru) and will destroy the

enemies, and give many subordinates(Karaka - Saturn)

>

> Its argala to the 12H will cause poor sleep and argala to the

> 9H will harm father's health and give long distance travels.

>

> Visti: Allthough Argala wasn't a part of the lesson, you have

answered it well. As you can see Karakas are most vital in astrology

in understanding the influence of planets. You will note that i added

such implications regarding Saturn causing Jupiters debilitation and

etc, this is also important in judging the effects.

>

> We can continue in this regard..

> Lets take 2nd house. Which grahas are Karakas for; Eyes, Wealth,

Speech, Food & Family?

> Best wishes, Visti.

[Guest guest]

Dear Visti,

 

Om Sri Sai Ram.

 

Ignore my previous mail.

 

According to "(j) in Pg 15, Narayana dasa ", won't the 3rd argala by

malefics benefit the house significations by bad means irrespective

of whether the planets are inimical to the house?

 

So, Saturn in 4H has 3rd argala on 2H and will make the person earn

lot of wealth through foul means i.e. here it will further the

signification of Jup although it causes its debilitation.

 

Regards,

Saraswathy.

 

 

sjvc, "vs_saras" <vs_saras> wrote:

> Dear Visti,

>

> "SARAS: Its argala and aspect to the 6H will make the enemies

strong.

> VISTI: Saturn hates Mars(karaka of satru) and will destroy the

> enemies, and give many subordinates(Karaka - Saturn)"

>

> According to "(j) in Pg 15, Narayana dasa ", won't the 3rd argala

by

> malefics on the 6H make the enemies strong irrespective of whether

> the planets are inimical to the house?

>

> Regards,

> Saraswathy

>

> sjvc, "Visti Larsen" <vlarsen@h...> wrote:

> > vyam vedavyasaaya namah

> >

> >

--

> ------------

> >

> > Dear Ashwin & Saraswaty,

> > Excellent answers. Ashwin i didn't include Tatkalika Sambandha

into

> the lesson, wait with that.

> >

> > Saraswatys answers were most correct, hence i will make the

> necessary corrections in it.

> >

> > Here is my attempt of the assignment.

> > Assignment:

> > Determine the other results of Saturns placement in the 4th

house.

> > I.e. how will it affect; Education, the Mind, Sukha, Lands,

> > Buildings, Vehicles, etc.

> >

> > Answer:

> > Saturn will further the significations of the planets it is

> friendly

> > to and will harm the significations of the planets it is enemical

> to.

> > Saturn is friends with Ve, Me and Ra, nuetral to Jup and ememical

> to

> > Sun, Moon, Mars and Ketu.

> >

> > Sat in 4H will provide many vehicles and luxuries, good

education,

> > many maternal relatives and a happy childhood(Ve,Me,Jup).It will

> harm

> > the mother's health and well being(Mo).It will inhibit the

> > acquisition of lands and buildings and provide a shabby and

unclean

> > home(Mars, Ketu).

> >

> > Visti: Saturn in 4th will not provide happy childhood, as it

> causes the debilitation of Jupiter(Sukha) and is enimical towards

the

> moon. The person will have a cold heart, maybe due to a shock in

> childhood(Lagna, 2nd and 4th shows the upbringing/childhood).

> > The education will be good, but will be very strict, where the

> teacher uses the cane, as thats Saturns nature.

> >

> > Sat in the 4H will give argala and aspect to the 1H giving the

> native

> > a sorrowful and dull disposition.

> >

> > Visti: Naturally all said about the placement in 4th, will

> influence the lagna, through argala.

> >

> > Its argala on the 3H will make him courageous.

> > Its argala and aspect to the 6H will make the enemies strong.

> >

> > Visti: Saturn hates Mars(karaka of satru) and will destroy the

> enemies, and give many subordinates(Karaka - Saturn)

> >

> > Its argala to the 12H will cause poor sleep and argala to the

> > 9H will harm father's health and give long distance travels.

> >

> > Visti: Allthough Argala wasn't a part of the lesson, you have

> answered it well. As you can see Karakas are most vital in

astrology

> in understanding the influence of planets. You will note that i

added

> such implications regarding Saturn causing Jupiters debilitation

and

> etc, this is also important in judging the effects.

> >

> > We can continue in this regard..

> > Lets take 2nd house. Which grahas are Karakas for; Eyes, Wealth,

> Speech, Food & Family?

> > Best wishes, Visti.