Digest Number 309(Subject: a dinner with _lord krishna)

July 20, 2002

hello,

i am really sorry,

actually it written that they can discuss spirituality.

after this clarification by you ,no such post will come again.

thanks

nitish

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<sjvc>

Sunday, July 21, 2002 1:41 AM

[sjvc] Digest Number 309

>

> There are 17 messages in this issue.

>

> Topics in this digest:

>

> 1. Request for guidance

> "ANMOHIEY" <anmohiey

> 2. Re: 8th House Venus in Sanyasis Charts

> "ashsam73" <ashsam73

> 3. Re: Request for guidance

> "ashsam73" <ashsam73

> 4. Re: Lesson 5

> Virgilio Victor <virgiliodaponte

> 5. Marana Sthana

> "aparna_joshi" <aparna_joshi

> 6. Re: Marana Sthana

> "j.k. dasgupta" <dga

> 7. a dinner with _________________lord krishna

> "niteesh_j" <dlggroup

> 8. Fw: Marana Sthana

> "j.k. dasgupta" <dga

> 9. RE: a dinner with _________________lord krishna

> "Solai Kannan" <solai

> 10. 8th House Venus in Sanyasis Charts

> "Rajat Bhatia" <bentley

> 11. Fw: 8th House Venus in Sanyasis Charts

> "Sateesh Batas" <makara

> 12. Re: a dinner with _________________lord krishna

> suresh sivan <sureshshiv1960

> 13. Re: Fw: 8th House Venus in Sanyasis Charts

> "snk110" <snk110

> 14. Charts as attachment

> "ashsam73" <ashsam73

> 15. Re: a dinner with _________________lord krishna

> "Katti Narahari" <katti_narahari

> 16. Sriram - 8th House Venus in Sanyasis Charts

> "Sateesh Batas" <makara

> 17. Re: Sriram - 8th House Venus in Sanyasis Charts

> "snk110" <snk110

>

> ______________________

>

> Message: 1

> Fri, 19 Jul 2002 22:39:39 +0530

> "ANMOHIEY" <anmohiey

> Request for guidance

>

> JAI GURUDEV.

>

> (I am reposting it as my earlier posted one didn't reach)

>

> Pujya Guruji/Seniors and Jyotisha,

>

> I request to guide me in the following exercise.

>

> I am enclosing chart of a lady. This lady is desiring for a progeny for

last 8 years but so far any astrological and medical expertise she persuaded

has not come to her help/rescue.

>

> 5th house is Thula and Vakra Guru is stationed in it. Its dispositor,

Shukra is exalted. Both these planets involved in the Parivartana Yoga.

This seemingly strong combination has not yielded results, may be owing to

the fact that, both 5th house and Karaka (Karaka bava nasa) simultaneously

afflicted by Gruha dhrustis from Shani and Kuja. Here shani is also 8th

house lord and Kuja is Badhakesha. SHani along with Kuja is casting its

malefic influences on conjoined Chandra and transmitting same effect on both

Guru and 5th house. Guru is marakadhipathi and being afflicted showing its

negative effects.

>

> Shani (and Kuja as well) afflicting Chandra and aspecting 5th house

indicates that curse of departed soul of maternal elder cannot be ruled out.

Additionally affliction to Guru by shani and Kuja leads for hint of curse of

a Brahmin.

>

> In Navamsa, karaka Guru is debilitated and placed 12th from the Lagna.

Here 5th house is occupied by Kuja which is afflicting 5th house in Rasi

also. Does it foretell that there are chances of sudden loss of progeny?

>

> Vrashabha, Mithuna, Makara and Simha are A3, A9, AS3 and AS9 respectively.

Between A3 and A9, former emerges as stronger since its lord is exalted and

it is being aspected by Guru. Both of A3 and A9 are not much afflicted,

except for the fact that A9 is conjoined by Mandi and Gulika. AS3 is 12th to

Sun and hence is afflicted. AS9 is 7th to Ravi but conjoined by Ketu and

slightly stands afflicted. This necessitates performing of remedial measures

to get the fruit of Progeny.

>

> How ever in Saptamsa, Chandra located in the 8th house, Budha placed in

the 9th house and Lagna (and Jupiter) afflicted by again Shani, Kuja and

Rahu may really very discouraging.

>

> In this particular case, can the native be benefited by observing,

>

> a) Chandrayana Vrata, Donating Cows and Gems.

>

> b) Pinda Dana and Rudrabhishaka?

>

> Or would it be wise of adopting a child and lead the life?

>

> With kind regards,

>

> Namra Shishya,

>

> Mohan Hegde.

>

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>

> ______________________

>

> Message: 2

> Sat, 20 Jul 2002 05:04:15 -0000

> "ashsam73" <ashsam73

> Re: 8th House Venus in Sanyasis Charts

>

> Dear Visti,

> Thank you for correcting me. I shall be a more careful before

> writing something like this.

> Rajat, I appologise for any misunderstanding. Visti has given a

> proper reasoning.

> Thanking you,

> Once again sorry for any confusion.

> Cheers !!!

> Ash

>

> sjvc, "Visti Larsen" <vlarsen@h...> wrote:

> > Vyam VedaVyasaaya Namah

> >

> > -

> -------------

> >

> > Dear Ash,

> > Venus won't necessarily fall in 6th from AL for guru's lagna..

> Jupiter needs to be checked offcourse, but i know you were thinking

> about Jupiter.

> >

> > The Yoga has nothing todo with Arudha Lagna, but with the sadhakas

> ability to control the bindu(semen), incase of men that is.

> >

> > Sex and lusty passions/cravings (Venus-Asura Guru) becomes a

> source of distress(8th) for the person, and they focus their potency

> inwards.

> >

> > A person who doesn't misuse their bindus has long life, acording

> to tantric texts. This is likely to be the basis of the Ayur

> calculations derived from Astakavarga.

> >

> > Best wishes, Visti.

> > p.s. See you Monday, am visiting relatives.

> > -

> > ashsam73

> > sjvc

> > Thursday, July 18, 2002 9:48 PM

> > [sjvc] Re: 8th House Venus in Sanyasis Charts

> >

> > Dear Rajat,

> > Venus in the 8th for Venus or Guru's lagnas would cause Venus to

> be

> > in 6th from Arudha lagna.

> > I guess this is what Gurudev meant.

> > Read Gurudevs article on Malefics and Benefics in 6th or 3rd

> from

> > Arudha Lagna or Gurudev's web site.

> > These are upachaya houses or houses of growth for Arudha Lagna.

> > Thanking you,

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash

> >

> > sjvc, "Rajat Bhatia" <bentley@v...> wrote:

> > > Respecetd Gurudeva Sanjay Ji,

> > >

> > > Pranaam and thanks for blessing us all with this sacred

> knowledge

> > of Light.

> > >

> > > You mention in COVA that VENUS is often placed in 8th House in

> > Sanyasins Charts.

> > >

> > > The logic behind this can be that VENUS loses all karaktatva

> being

> > placed in aTrik like 8th and cannot lure towards bhogamarg.

> Further,

> > it can aid in deep occult research and practices as 8th is an

> equally

> > important house for occult. However, Venus also gives

> temptations

> > when placed in this house . So how can this placement be in

> > Sanyasins Charts who are already or are in pursuit to master

> their

> > lesser instincts.

> > >

> > > Kindly give the right direction.

> > >

> > > Yours,

> > >

> > > Rajat

> >

> > Sponsor

> >

> > Terms of

> Service.

>

> ______________________

>

> Message: 3

> Sat, 20 Jul 2002 05:09:30 -0000

> "ashsam73" <ashsam73

> Re: Request for guidance

>

> Dear Mohan,

> I could not see the chart that you have attached ? Is there some

> place I am not looking ?

> Thanking you,

> Cheers !!!

> Ash

>

> sjvc, "ANMOHIEY" <anmohiey@s...> wrote:

> > JAI GURUDEV.

> >

> > (I am reposting it as my earlier posted one didn't reach)

> >

> > Pujya Guruji/Seniors and Jyotisha,

> >

> > I request to guide me in the following exercise.

> >

> > I am enclosing chart of a lady. This lady is desiring for a

> progeny for last 8 years but so far any astrological and medical

> expertise she persuaded has not come to her help/rescue.

> >

> > 5th house is Thula and Vakra Guru is stationed in it. Its

> dispositor, Shukra is exalted. Both these planets involved in the

> Parivartana Yoga. This seemingly strong combination has not yielded

> results, may be owing to the fact that, both 5th house and Karaka

> (Karaka bava nasa) simultaneously afflicted by Gruha dhrustis from

> Shani and Kuja. Here shani is also 8th house lord and Kuja is

> Badhakesha. SHani along with Kuja is casting its malefic influences

> on conjoined Chandra and transmitting same effect on both Guru and

> 5th house. Guru is marakadhipathi and being afflicted showing its

> negative effects.

> >

> > Shani (and Kuja as well) afflicting Chandra and aspecting 5th

> house indicates that curse of departed soul of maternal elder cannot

> be ruled out. Additionally affliction to Guru by shani and Kuja

> leads for hint of curse of a Brahmin.

> >

> > In Navamsa, karaka Guru is debilitated and placed 12th from the

> Lagna. Here 5th house is occupied by Kuja which is afflicting 5th

> house in Rasi also. Does it foretell that there are chances of

> sudden loss of progeny?

> >

> > Vrashabha, Mithuna, Makara and Simha are A3, A9, AS3 and AS9

> respectively. Between A3 and A9, former emerges as stronger since

> its lord is exalted and it is being aspected by Guru. Both of A3 and

> A9 are not much afflicted, except for the fact that A9 is conjoined

> by Mandi and Gulika. AS3 is 12th to Sun and hence is afflicted. AS9

> is 7th to Ravi but conjoined by Ketu and slightly stands afflicted.

> This necessitates performing of remedial measures to get the fruit

> of Progeny.

> >

> > How ever in Saptamsa, Chandra located in the 8th house, Budha

> placed in the 9th house and Lagna (and Jupiter) afflicted by again

> Shani, Kuja and Rahu may really very discouraging.

> >

> > In this particular case, can the native be benefited by observing,

> >

> > a) Chandrayana Vrata, Donating Cows and Gems.

> >

> > b) Pinda Dana and Rudrabhishaka?

> >

> > Or would it be wise of adopting a child and lead the life?

> >

> > With kind regards,

> >

> > Namra Shishya,

> >

> > Mohan Hegde.

>

> ______________________

>

> Message: 4

> Sat, 20 Jul 2002 03:45:59 -0300

> Virgilio Victor <virgiliodaponte

> Re: Lesson 5

>

> Namaste all.

> My attempt to answer the assignments in SJVC Lesson 5.

>

> Question 1: - In your chart or any chart, explain how a lagna sign's

> characteristics and planets connect with that Lagna sign influence the

> native's personality and health.

> Data:

> DOB- 27 /07/1947 -

> TOB- 7:06 AM (summer time - subtract 1 hour) -

> POB-Lisbon - Portugal.

>

> Observation:

> In my chart I have Cancer ascendent.

>

> Sun and Saturn in the first house.

>

> Lagna Lord is Moon placed in the 5th house in scorpio.

>

> Effects on personality:

>

> Lagna- Cancer rises. It is an emotional, sensitive, watery sign giving a

> phlegmatic disposition. The lord moon is placed in scorpius in the 5

> house in debilitation, conjoin ketu. Scorpio is an fixed sign and would

> have a major influence in shaping the expression of the moon in my

> horoscope. We must also look at the sign dispositor of moon. That is mars,

> the lord of scorpio which is placed in taurus, aspecting his own sign, in

> kendra from moon, cancelling the debilitation, and gave me a strong

dynamic

> interest in sports (I was world championship in rowing)besides the moon is

> placed in the constellation of anuradha.(Sports ,Games,foreign countries

> and good for numbers.).

> The flexible emotional inner forces of moon are being expressed within the

> secret, private, hidden sign that is scorpio. The moon would also be

> influenced by ketu, which heighten the orderliness and rigidity, limit

> emotions,limit my sensuality and gave me fascinated with techniques or

> technologies for directing energy, either outwardly or inwardly. Ascendant

> lord there indicates a highly introverted and introspective person.

> Moon is also the significator of emotions and a person with the moon in

> scorpio (in general and specially if it is

> the ascendant lord) would make active attempts to hide one's emotions in a

> conscious and subconscious manner. Such people like me ,with this and yet

> with saturn in the ascendent, use denials, blocking, repression and

> suppression as defenses against situations and emotions which might arouse

> anxiety in them. The presence of saturn in the ascendent, give me the

> tendency to rationalize everything and to depend excessively on my

> reasoning faculties.

>

> My physical features. In the northern hemisphere, cancer is a medium

> ascension sign, scorpio is a medium to, Ketu and sun give medium to tall

> height, saturn give small to medium height. Pooling all these influences

> together, the individual is likely to be of medium height, which I am

> (about 71 mts height). I have the caracteristics of scorpio sign:- strong

> and robust body with good muscles, broad face, and cancer sign:,- blue

eyes

> , lustrous face,tendency to get fat, and I am timid.

> The Cancer nativities generally have abundant hair, the association of

moon

> with sun would eventually lead to baldness but I am 54 years old and I

> steel have enough hair.

> The second lord , the sun, aspected by cruel planets ( saturn, ketu, rahu,

> mars) and debilitated in navansa , give me a special eyes and a low-volume

> but raspy voice, specially so when raised and I´m get tired when I speak

> loud. My eyes are the windows of my soul and I can't hide what I think,

> because I express my feelings through my eyes

>

> Question 2: Explain the reason for the exaltation and ownership of all the

> planets.

>

> A simple story of how the twelve Rashis(constellations) of zodiac got

their

> lords.

> In de beginning, Sun and Moon were the King and Queen of heaven. Absolute

> monarchs they ruled from the constellations of Leo and Cancer

respectively.

> When Mercury saw that these two owned everything, he decided to ask(since

> mercury rules communication)for some land in the zodiac for him self. The

> Sun being naturally magnanimous, said, "all right, you may take possession

> of Virgo, the constellation next to mine".

> Now Mercury is well known as a dual planet, a master of duplicity who

> speaks with a forked tongue. He found it so easy to get the land from the

> Sun that he waited until the night (Mercury rules both day and night) and

> then told Moon, the Queen of the night, "O Queen, the Sun has given me a

> plot; are you going to be outdone?

> Now, Sun is the soul, and Moon is the emotional mind. Mind is insecure,

> knowing that it has no independent light of its own, that, it only

reflects

> the soul. Since it is insecure, mind is always trying to aggrandize

itself,

> and so it often tries to duplicate processes which are part of the life of

> the soul. This, for example, is the reason why the mind frequently tries

to

> convince itself that it might live forever. So Moon replied to Mercury,

> "All right you take Gemini, the plot next to mine". In this way Mercury ,

> the thinking mind, gained possession of Virgo and Gemini.

> Venus (desire) saw what Mercury(thinking mind) had done, and made the some

> request. Sun(who is very honest, and would not gift away the some space

> twice)said: "I've promised the space next to me to Mercury, but you may

> have the next space"which is Libra. Venus then repeated his request to

> Moon, obtaining Taurus thereby.

> Seeing what Venus(desire) had done, Mars (action)did the some, obtaining

> Scorpio and Aries from Sun and Moon respectively.

> Requests from Jupiter(wisdom) gained Sagittarius and Pisces.

> Finally even Saturn got the news (Saturn , who is slow to catch on,always

> the last to know).Saturn(renunciation)got what was left on both sides:

> Capricorn and Aquarius.

> This order reflects the distances from the various planets to the Sun:

> Mercury is the closest planet, followed in order by Venus, Mars, Jupiter

> and finally Saturn.

> This order also reflects the evolution of embodied consciousness, which

> arises from the Soul and is experienced first in the emotional mind. As

> objective thought gradually develops, so does the thinking mind. The more

> the mind thinks, the more it desires. Desires lead to action, in order to

> actualize those desires; and from action, comes wisdom, as one learns the

> beneficial and detrimental results of good and bad actions. When wisdom

> finally matures, renunciation becomes inevitable, because you become

> satisfied with was bestowed upon you by Nature; you are happy

> with whatever remains. The some life dramas that are acted on Earth

appear

> symbolized in the skies; "as above , so below".

>

> Another simple story about exaltation and debilitation -

> Astrologically planets are ascribed exaltation and debilitation points in

> the zodiac. As a rule the Rasi (sign) in which the exaltation and

> debilitation point is located is taken as a whole as exalted or

debilitated

> sign. The point of debilitation from the point of exaltation is 180

> degrees. The 7th sign from the sign of exaltation is the debilitation

sign.

> Exaltation Debilitation

> Sun Aries 10 Libra 10

> Moon Taurus 3 Scorpio 3

> Mars Capricorn 28 Cancer 28

> Mercury Virgo 15 Pisces 15

> Jupiter Cancer 5 Capricorn 5

> Venus Pisces 27 Virgo 27

> Saturn Libra 20 Aries 20

> The why, how and what of exaltation and debilitation of planets are not

> explained in any authoritative work of astrology.

> The argument put forth by some is that the planet nearer to earth is

> potentially strong and hence is exalted. A study of the following

dismisses

> that argument.

> The distance and exaltation or debilitation of planets is not in any way

> connected. Then what is debilitation and exaltation of planets ?

> Exaltation means being in high position, exhileration and strength.

> Debility means weakness, and humility .

> The zodiac is the planetary cabinet. The first house or sign should be

> occupied by protocol by the King as the 1st citizen. Sun is the king of

> planetary cabinet. Hence he should be exalted on his thrown in the 1st

sign

> Aries. A king enjoys power and position only when attended by the

commander

> in chief Mars and the servant Saturn. Aries is the sign owned by Mars, the

> commander in chief of the planetary cabinet and Saturn the servant is

> debilitated (humbled) in Aries due to the authority of the King and the

> commander in chief. The King is attended on either side (Pisces and Taurus

> by Venus the courtesan and the Queen Moon).

> The place next to the King shall go only to the Queen. Hence Moon is

> exalted in Taurus. Sun owns Leo and Moon owns Cancer and get exalted in

> Aries and Taurus respectively. Next to Queen no one can sit. Hence Gemini

> has neither exaltation or debilitation of any planet in it. Cancer is

owned

> by the Queen (Queen's place) Moon. Jupiter is the preceptor and further

has

> a respectable place in the Queen's palace when he visits Cancer. Hence

> Jupiter is exalted in Cancer. Mythologically Moon (as male disciple of

> Jupiter) has an episode with Tara, the wife of Jupiter, which culminated

in

> the birth of a child Budha. Mars the commander in chief visits the Queen's

> palace to carry out the commands or run errands of the Queen. Hence he is

> debilitated in Cancer. In the King's palace of Leo no planet can be

> exalted. Hence free from exaltation or debilitation. Virgo is owned by

> Mercury. Mercury is the finance minister in the planetary cabinet hence

> exalted in Virgo. Venus the courtesan is debilitated in the house of the

> finance minister, personally visiting for financial aid. Libra is owned by

> courtesan (damsel). When the king visits the court damsel, naturally he is

> accompanied by the servant Saturn. In the house of a damsel the king

looses

> his authority. Hence is debilitated in Libra. The servant Saturn is the

> master of the situation (arranging meeting of Damsel Venus and King Sun)

> and is exalted. Scorpio is owned by Mars. When Moon the Queen visits the

> quarters of subordinate commander in chief, she is humbled. Hence is

> debilitated in Scorpio. In the mansion of the Guru Jupiter no planet is

> exalted or debilitated. Capricorn is the quarters of the servant and

> soldier Saturn. Mars visits the barracks of soldier. He the commander in

> chief visits with authority. Hence is exalted.

> Jupiter the preceptor and prime minister by visiting the quarters of a

> servant looses his dignity and status.Hence Jupiter is debilitated in the

> house of Saturn - Capricorn.

> Aquarius also is owned by Saturn. There is no debility or exaltation of

> planets in it. Pisces is owned by Jupiter. Venus, the damsel, being in the

> house of respected Jupiter in the proximity of the king in Pisces,

> naturally has power, hence is exalted. Mercury, the Finance Minister,being

> in the house of respected Jupiter and in the proximity of the king is

> subdued of his authority and hence is debilitated in Pisces.

> This is one line of explanation of exaltation and debilitation of planets

> on the basis of planet politics.

>

> Question 3: Take the Dual rasis owned by the non-luminous planets and

> compare the characteristics of their two rasis. Find out how the lordship

> gets altered for these two rasis because of the difference in the

> characteristics.

>

> The first pair is Gemini and Virgo owned by Mercury, a non-luminary; the

> second pair is Sagittarius and Pisces, owned by another non-luminary,

Jupiter.

> MERCURY- As Lord of Gemini, the sign of communication, education,

learning,

> he has interest in everything, showing his curiosity and his dual nature.

> As Lord of Virgo, the sign of debates and arguments, he is more adult,

more

> serious,looking for practical results.

> JUPITER- As Lord of Sagittarius, in a fiere sign, Jupiter acts in a

dynamic

> manner to uphold Dharma.

> As Lord of Pisces, he stands for wisdom, spirituality and knowledge, and

> his fiery nature is extinguished, seeking moksha.

>

> thanks

>

> Virgilio

>

> [This message contained attachments]

>

> ______________________

>

> Message: 5

> Sat, 20 Jul 2002 09:48:00 -0000

> "aparna_joshi" <aparna_joshi

> Marana Sthana

>

> Dear Friends and Gurus

>

> Was following the discussions on Marana Sthanas and was wondering

> abour the following

>

> 1) Bill Clinton has Sat in Lagna (7 & 8L). In the analysis on

> Sanjayji's site he has mentioned that Sat in Cancer Lagna is a

> Rajyoga. What is the name of this RY? If the planet is in Marana

> Sthana how much of a Rajyoga involving it will manifest? In Navamsa

> also it is in Lagna but in Dasamsa in 2H.

>

> 2) In Emperor Akbar's chart also Sat is exalted in Lagna forming Sasa

> Yoga. Also Sat is yogakaraka for Libra lagna. However what are the

> effects of it being placed in Marana Sthana.

>

> 3) For Taurus Lagna Sat is 9L and 10L. If placed in Lagna how will it

> affect career?

>

> Thanks and regards

>

> Aparna

>

> ______________________

>

> Message: 6

> Sat, 20 Jul 2002 16:40:33 +0530

> "j.k. dasgupta" <dga

> Re: Marana Sthana

>

> following are the marana karaka shtanas for various planets,

>

> Ju-3, produces too much giving, and excess ether

> Ve-6, makes the person excessively longing for love

> Ma-7, excess anger, and bile

> Me-7, over flirtatious tendencies, and windy nature

> Sa-8, over worrying, and danger from rocks/stones

> Mo-8, lack of happiness, and excess fluids

> Ra-9, creates deception and excess karma

> Su-12, over egoistic tendencies, and excess warmth

>

> i have seen generally sat in lagna makes a person introvert. gurus and

others may correct me.

>

> jk

>

> -

> aparna_joshi

> sjvc

> Saturday, July 20, 2002 3:18 PM

> [sjvc] Marana Sthana

>

> Dear Friends and Gurus

>

> Was following the discussions on Marana Sthanas and was wondering

> abour the following

>

> 1) Bill Clinton has Sat in Lagna (7 & 8L). In the analysis on

> Sanjayji's site he has mentioned that Sat in Cancer Lagna is a

> Rajyoga. What is the name of this RY? If the planet is in Marana

> Sthana how much of a Rajyoga involving it will manifest? In Navamsa

> also it is in Lagna but in Dasamsa in 2H.

>

> 2) In Emperor Akbar's chart also Sat is exalted in Lagna forming Sasa

> Yoga. Also Sat is yogakaraka for Libra lagna. However what are the

> effects of it being placed in Marana Sthana.

>

> 3) For Taurus Lagna Sat is 9L and 10L. If placed in Lagna how will it

> affect career?

>

> Thanks and regards

>

> Aparna

>

> Sponsor

>

> [This message contained attachments]

>

> ______________________

>

> Message: 7

> Sat, 20 Jul 2002 12:05:05 -0000

> "niteesh_j" <dlggroup

> a dinner with _________________lord krishna

>

> hello group,(discussion topic)

> i don't believe in lord krishna.

> can i still have dinner with him???

> i am seriuos about it.

> thanks for discussion in advance

> niteesh

>

> ______________________

>

> Message: 8

> Sat, 20 Jul 2002 17:50:33 +0530

> "j.k. dasgupta" <dga

> Fw: Marana Sthana

>

> sorry, maranakaraka for sat is 1st house

>

> -

> j.k. dasgupta

> sjvc

> Saturday, July 20, 2002 4:40 PM

> Re: [sjvc] Marana Sthana

>

> following are the marana karaka shtanas for various planets,

>

> Ju-3, produces too much giving, and excess ether

> Ve-6, makes the person excessively longing for love

> Ma-7, excess anger, and bile

> Me-7, over flirtatious tendencies, and windy nature

> Sa-8, over worrying, and danger from rocks/stones

> Mo-8, lack of happiness, and excess fluids

> Ra-9, creates deception and excess karma

> Su-12, over egoistic tendencies, and excess warmth

>

> i have seen generally sat in lagna makes a person introvert. gurus and

others may correct me.

>

> jk

>

> -

> aparna_joshi

> sjvc

> Saturday, July 20, 2002 3:18 PM

> [sjvc] Marana Sthana

>

> Dear Friends and Gurus

>

> Was following the discussions on Marana Sthanas and was wondering

> abour the following

>

> 1) Bill Clinton has Sat in Lagna (7 & 8L). In the analysis on

> Sanjayji's site he has mentioned that Sat in Cancer Lagna is a

> Rajyoga. What is the name of this RY? If the planet is in Marana

> Sthana how much of a Rajyoga involving it will manifest? In Navamsa

> also it is in Lagna but in Dasamsa in 2H.

>

> 2) In Emperor Akbar's chart also Sat is exalted in Lagna forming Sasa

> Yoga. Also Sat is yogakaraka for Libra lagna. However what are the

> effects of it being placed in Marana Sthana.

>

> 3) For Taurus Lagna Sat is 9L and 10L. If placed in Lagna how will it

> affect career?

>

> Thanks and regards

>

> Aparna

>

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> Message: 9

> Sat, 20 Jul 2002 15:56:27 +0300

> "Solai Kannan" <solai

> RE: a dinner with _________________lord krishna

>

> OHM SHRI RAGAVENDRAYA NAMAH

> JAYA JAGANNATHA

>

> Namaste Niteesh,

>

> This is an astrological teaching forum, wherein we do not discuss topics

> like this unless it is directly related to astrology or astrological

chart.

>

> BTW, yesterday you dined with Krishna.

>

> Thanks

> Solaikannan

>

> niteesh_j [dlggroup]

> 20 July 2002 3:05 PM

> sjvc

> [sjvc] a dinner with _________________lord krishna

>

> hello group,(discussion topic)

> i don't believe in lord krishna.

> can i still have dinner with him???

> i am seriuos about it.

> thanks for discussion in advance

> niteesh

>

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> Message: 10

> Sat, 20 Jul 2002 23:03:12 +0530

> "Rajat Bhatia" <bentley

> 8th House Venus in Sanyasis Charts

>

> Dear Visti & Ash,

>

> Thanks for your valued observations.

>

> Visti, you imply that 8th house Venus causing sexual distress motivates

the person for self control. This means that 8th house Venus shows that

person is in conflict with his baser instincts which he is trying to

overcome thus making him a sort of sanyasin.

> Also that Venus in 8th naturally does not give any qualties like self

control, higher aspiration , spiritual inclination etc but in case other

planets are strong for these significations then only he is able to overcome

his shortfall. And Venus thus placed is only making his sensuality stronger.

>

> Lets understand together,

>

> Rajat

>

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> Message: 11

> Sat, 20 Jul 2002 18:37:51 +0100

> "Sateesh Batas" <makara

> Fw: 8th House Venus in Sanyasis Charts

>

> Dear Rajat,

>

> My chart - thoughts welcome.

>

> Thanks - Sateesh.

>

> ========

>

> Rashi Chart

> *******************************************************

> ** * * **

> * * * * * *

> * * 7 * * 5 * *

> * * * MO 11:07 * * *

> * 8 * AS 27:54 * 4 *

> * * * * * *

> * * * 6 * * *

> ** * * **

> * RA 17:27 9 * 3 KE 17:27 *

> ** * * **

> * * * 12 * * *

> * * * * * *

> *JU 15:35 * * * * *

> *MA 20:38 10* ME 05:08 * 2 SA 23:24*

> * * * * * *

> * * 11 * SU 02:09* *

> * * * * VE 03:42 * *

> * * * * * *

> ** * * **

> *******************************************************

>

> ========

>

> -

> Rajat Bhatia

> sjvc

> Saturday, July 20, 2002 6:33 PM

> [sjvc] 8th House Venus in Sanyasis Charts

>

> Dear Visti & Ash,

>

> Thanks for your valued observations.

>

> Visti, you imply that 8th house Venus causing sexual distress motivates

the person for self control. This means that 8th house Venus shows that

person is in conflict with his baser instincts which he is trying to

overcome thus making him a sort of sanyasin.

> Also that Venus in 8th naturally does not give any qualties like self

control, higher aspiration , spiritual inclination etc but in case other

planets are strong for these significations then only he is able to overcome

his shortfall. And Venus thus placed is only making his sensuality stronger.

>

> Lets understand together,

>

> Rajat

>

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> Message: 12

> Sat, 20 Jul 2002 19:17:54 +0100 (BST)

> suresh sivan <sureshshiv1960

> Re: a dinner with _________________lord krishna

>

> Hi Niteesh,

>

> As Guruji Solai indicated this is a teaching forum and

> do not disturb us coming with such non-sense.

>

> Moreover I wish to say that you are having dinner with

> my Lord Bhagavan Krishna every day ...but due to your

> nonsense you could not know that.... now onwards try

> to know it OK

>

> Hare Rama Hare Krishna

> Suresh

>

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> Message: 13

> Sat, 20 Jul 2002 18:29:56 -0000

> "snk110" <snk110

> Re: Fw: 8th House Venus in Sanyasis Charts

>

> HARE RAMA KRISHNA

> OM GURAVE NAMAH

>

> Dear Rajat,

> Venus is in the 8th in u'r chart along with exalted 12th lord SunAs

> far as the discussion thread of venus in 8th and renunciation/

> control of sexual urges is concerned, i feel that we should also look

> at the role of the 3rd house.the lagna lord in the 7th in

> debilitation and that too being mercury might result in a flirtatious

> nature. the association of venus with mars, who happens to be 3rd

> lord of self control and 8th lord of self-undoing also causes lusty

> desires.The placement of Rahu, the secretive planet in scorpio, the

> secret sign in the 3rd house may point to the person concealing his

> desires.Scorpio also happens to be A7. the native may prefer to meet

> people in private. in your horoscope, venus is in mars' house and

> aspected by an exalted mars in conjunction with 7th lord jupiter who

> has got neechabhanga. thus, the native may have desires of having

> association with women ( and not lusty) due to the exaltation of mars

> and after marriage (mars assoc with 7th lord in neechabhanga),many of

> the native's baser instincts will melt and get replaced by desires

> for liberation (exalted 12th lord with 9th lord venus).

>

> I request the gurus to correct my understanding.

>

> Your sishya

>

> K.N.Sriram

>

> sjvc, "Sateesh Batas" <makara@n...> wrote:

> > Dear Rajat,

> >

> > My chart - thoughts welcome.

> >

> > Thanks - Sateesh.

> >

> > ========

> >

> > Rashi Chart

> > *******************************************************

> > ** * * **

> > * * * * * *

> > * * 7 * * 5 * *

> > * * * MO 11:07 * * *

> > * 8 * AS 27:54 * 4 *

> > * * * * * *

> > * * * 6 * * *

> > ** * * **

> > * RA 17:27 9 * 3 KE 17:27 *

> > ** * * **

> > * * * 12 * * *

> > * * * * * *

> > *JU 15:35 * * * * *

> > *MA 20:38 10* ME 05:08 * 2 SA 23:24*

> > * * * * * *

> > * * 11 * SU 02:09* *

> > * * * * VE 03:42 * *

> > * * * * * *

> > ** * * **

> > *******************************************************

> >

> > ========

> >

> > -

> > Rajat Bhatia

> > sjvc

> > Saturday, July 20, 2002 6:33 PM

> > [sjvc] 8th House Venus in Sanyasis Charts

> >

> > Dear Visti & Ash,

> >

> > Thanks for your valued observations.

> >

> > Visti, you imply that 8th house Venus causing sexual distress

> motivates the person for self control. This means that 8th house

> Venus shows that person is in conflict with his baser instincts which

> he is trying to overcome thus making him a sort of sanyasin.

> > Also that Venus in 8th naturally does not give any qualties like

> self control, higher aspiration , spiritual inclination etc but in

> case other planets are strong for these significations then only he

> is able to overcome his shortfall. And Venus thus placed is only

> making his sensuality stronger.

> >

> > Lets understand together,

> >

> > Rajat

> >

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> Message: 14

> Sat, 20 Jul 2002 18:34:51 -0000

> "ashsam73" <ashsam73

> Charts as attachment

>

> Hello All,

> When posting your charts could we all create our charts in JHL and

> attach it so that It becomes easy to download them read them. It is

> especially very helpful if someone is using custom ananyamsa and not

> just Lahiri.

> Just Rasi chart is not sufficient to study, Navamsa and other

> divisional charts are also important.

> Thanking you for listening,

> Cheers !!!

> Ash

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>

> Message: 15

> Sun, 21 Jul 2002 00:09:57 +0530

> "Katti Narahari" <katti_narahari

> Re: a dinner with _________________lord krishna

>

> Om Gurave Namah,

>

> Dear Niteesh,

>

> Even a small act of having dinner with mother is like having dinner with

Krishna. You have been doing it all your life. Why ask now?

>

> Regards

>

> Hari

> -

> niteesh_j

> sjvc

> Saturday, July 20, 2002 5:35 PM

> [sjvc] a dinner with _________________lord krishna

>

> hello group,(discussion topic)

> i don't believe in lord krishna.

> can i still have dinner with him???

> i am seriuos about it.

> thanks for discussion in advance

> niteesh

>

> Sponsor

>

> [This message contained attachments]

>

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> Message: 16

> Sat, 20 Jul 2002 19:56:48 +0100

> "Sateesh Batas" <makara

> Sriram - 8th House Venus in Sanyasis Charts

>

> Dear Sriram,

>

> Actually, this is my chart :-) .

>

> Comments below in CAPS.

>

> Sateesh.

>

> ========

>

> -

> snk110

> sjvc

> Saturday, July 20, 2002 7:29 PM

> Re: Fw: [sjvc] 8th House Venus in Sanyasis Charts

>

> Venus is in the 8th in u'r chart along with exalted 12th lord SunAs

> far as the discussion thread of venus in 8th and renunciation/

> control of sexual urges is concerned, i feel that we should also look

> at the role of the 3rd house.

>

> the lagna lord in the 7th in debilitation and that too being mercury might

result in a flirtatious nature.

>

> CORRECT.

>

> the association of venus with mars, who happens to be 3rd lord of self

control and 8th lord of self-undoing also causes lusty desires.The

placement of Rahu, the secretive planet in scorpio, the secret sign in the

3rd house may point to the person concealing his desires.

>

> RAHU IS IN 4TH IN SAGITTARIUS - PLEASE RECHECK?

>

> Scorpio also happens to be A7. the native may prefer to meet people in

private.

>

> NO CARNAL ASSOCIATIONS.

>

> in your horoscope, venus is in mars' house and

> aspected by an exalted mars in conjunction with 7th lord jupiter who

> has got neechabhanga. thus, the native may have desires of having

> association with women ( and not lusty) due to the exaltation of mars

>

> CORRECT - NOTHING PHYSICAL EVEN THOUGH THE INTEREST IN WOMEN MAY BE THERE.

>

> and after marriage (mars assoc with 7th lord in neechabhanga),many of

> the native's baser instincts will melt and get replaced by desires

> for liberation (exalted 12th lord with 9th lord venus).

>

> OK, LET US SEE IF MARRIAGE FIRST OCCURS :-) .

>

> Thanks for this assessment.

>

> S.