RE: Bangalore SJVC meeting-->Shri Ramakrishna Paramahamsa' s Chart.

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Muruli

Sanjay Rath [srath (AT) softhome (DOT) net]Sent:

Wednesday, July 17, 2002 9:34 AMsjvcSubject: RE: [sjvc]

Bangalore SJVC meeting-->Shri Ramakrishna Paramahamsa's Chart.

 

 

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Dear katti

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Katti Narahari

[katti_narahari (AT) hotmail (DOT) com]Sunday, July 14, 2002 9:45 AMTo:

sjvcCc: Ramapriya D; npk14 ; vyshakh2002 ;

Muruli S ( F & A Bangalore); rs_madhu ; Vishwa Krishnamurthy; Krishna

Padmasola; Satyanarayana Reddy; anmoheiy sjvc[sjvc] Bangalore SJVC

meeting-->Shri Ramakrishna Paramahamsa's Chart.

Om Gurave Namah

 

Pranams to all Guru's and learned members,[Rath:] namaskar

 

Taking the advice of Gurudev Sanjay that we have to start analyzing charts also

esp charts of saints, we decided we will attempt the chart of the Shri

Ramakrishna Paramahamsa.

 

Meeting attendees

 

1. Muruli

2. Katti Narahari[Rath:] rather poor. what was the cause for this? Do you change often?

 

What we attempted to see in this great saint's chart was two things

 

1. Why are the astrological reasons for his marriage without any physical

attributes.

2. What are the astrological reasons for his spirituality esp with regard to

his worship of mother.

 

This attempt is only from students... so we will obliged if guru's and learned

members can give their valuable opinion.

 

1. Aquarius lagna rises with sun, moon, and mercury ®. Sun, the lord of 7th is

in lagna. 7th house Leo has no planets but is aspected by exalted mars in the

12th and exalted Saturn ® from the 9th. (Rasi Drishti). The sign Leo contains

the A9, thus showing the close link between Marriage and Dharma in his chart.

The upapada is Aries with UL lord mars exalted in the 10th from it and 12th

from Lagna. The 2nd from UL has exalted rahu. 2nd from from UL is Venus who is

exalted, but Venus is debilitated in Navamsa thus giving rise to RajaBhanga

yoga. This would mean that results of Venus are not be experienced at all. Rahu

in the 2nd from UL also ensures that marriage as we know it (materialistic

definition of marriage) does not fructify. Passions that play a part in

marriage life are destroyed because of Venus debilitation in D9. [Rath:] The

marriage is seen from the Upapada and this is in Aries with its lord Mars

exalted but in the 12th house. Thus, he wanted to reject his spouse but even

tually accepted her when she promised to be a companion and help in his life's

mission. The darapada A7 is in Taurus with the AK in it. In whichever pada the

AK is placed, the lessons of spirituality are connected and will manifest in

this area. Thus, his lesson was his test as to how pure he can be w.r.t.

physical contact. Further, the 2nd from UL (marriage) is Taurus with Rahu & A7

in it. Thus, the darapada would have caused a break in marriage had it not been

for the presence of the AK in it. Ramakrishna wanted to break the marriage, but

alowed it to continue due to the spiritual promise made by Sarada mata. The

point is that is A& would have been activated, it would have resulted in the

break of the marriage. Debility of Venus is not good for this matter,

especially in Navamsa.

 

In Navamsa Capricorn lagna rises. The 7th from Capricorn i.e. cancer is a

compassionate sign representing the mother and has mars and ketu!. Mars also is

involved RajaBhanga yoga as being exalted in Rasi and Debilitated in Navamsa.

Ketu's presence in the 7th house makes sure that there are no desires with

regard to marriage. Thus the planets that promote Bramhacharya Mars and Ketu,

both influence the 7th house in D9. Again the a9 in navamsa falls in the house

of the 7th. Not only A9 falls in cancer in D9, A4 also is in cancer. This again

points to the influence debilitated mars and ketu play with respect to 4th house

results manifestations.... paving the way for Brahmacharya even when married.

 

The saint got married in the year 1859. I could not find out the month in this

year from the saint;s life biographies. But during 1959 he was running the

narayana dasa of Taurus. Taurus ND runs till 1863. The year 1859 there are 2

antaras of Le and Vi. ND starts from lagna. Taurus is the 4th house from lagna.

Taurus is the 2nd from UL. Taurus has A7. Taurus also is aspected by UL lord

mars (rasi aspect). Thus Taurus did give marriage. Of the month, i can only say

that of Le and Vi Antaras Le would probably be more qualified to give marriage

as Le is the 7th house and also has A9. 7th lord aspecting the 7th house

Le.[Rath:] celebration of marriage is one thing. coming of spouse after many

years is another. Be specific about both. You will need this even when dealing

with the chart of Guru Nanak dev.

 

The 12th house stands for Moksha. In Rasi, 12th lord is exalted in the trine.

But exalted 9th lord is retro, thus Saturn giving reverse results. The 12th

house receives the aspect of Rahu who in this great saint;s chart is the chara

Atmakaraka. While Naisargika karaka sun would show atma and it's path for

salvation, Chara atmakaraka shows the progression of the soul in the current

life time and how and by what means a person goes to realize that

moksha.[Rath:] 12th house stands for the end of the body and this maybe a

necessary condition for moksha. Actually the 12th from AK is what gives

emancipation to the soul.

 

The saint;s Ishta devata is Shiva as Atmakaraka Rahu is in Capricorn (karakamsa

is Cp). 12th from karakamsa has Sun->Shiva. But why then did the saint worship

Kali?[Rath:] This is an important concept in spirituality. Examine this more

carefully bringing out the Ista devata, Palana & Dharma devata. What was the

role of Vivekananda in this?

 

2. D20 shows spiritual matters. In D20, Gemini is the lagna which has mars. Mars

in D20 showing an aggressive, warrior deity. The 5th house shows worship and in

D20 the 5th house is Libra lorded by Venus who is placed in the 9th with moon.

Thus we have Venus (feminine) with moon (feminine) and mars (in lagna) who is

warrior. This points to a feminine deity who is war like. Goddess KALI. In D20,

A7 shows the kind of people one interacts in this spiritual activities. A7 is

again Libra. the 5th house.. but has mercury in it. Now mercury is the chara

Matrukaraka!!!! (MK) . Mother worship again. Thus the manifestation of

spiritual life is only with respect of mother's vision.[Rath:] Don't et into

D-20 as yet. You can make mistakes. Are you aware that Ramakrishna got proper

Diksha into a parampara from Jagannath Puri? Krishna!!! Are you aware of his

tapasya for Radheshyama ?

 

This attempt is nowhere near complete. I will be obliged if Guru's can comment

on this attempt with regard to the saints marriage life and spirituality. We

look forward for evaluations and comments.

 

 

Thanks for your time.

 

Your Humble Sisyha,

 

Hari

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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