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Dear JKDasgupta,

 

I forgot to mention, that his Sade-Sathi started when Libra Dasa

started. In 2000, Saturn transitted to Taurus, and caused Kantaka

Shani, by being in 8H from AL and Dasa Rasi. From July 22nd, next

week, you will feel some relief.

 

Regards

Skanda

 

sjvc, "Narayan Iyer" <skanda_kumara@m...> wrote:

> om gurave namah

>

> Dear JKDasgupta & Friends,

>

> Please find my comments in blue. Chart used: Ashwin.

>

> Next his current Libra dasa was taken up for analysis (from

18.3.1998).

>

> Lord venus is in 7th. Neither debilated nor exaulted. So period of

dasa will be 7-1=6 yrs

> Deha rashi is Libra and Jeeva rashi is also be Libra as lord ven

is in 7th from it. Paka rashi is Ari and bhoga rashi is Can (having

arudha of Ari - 11th house).

>

> The Deha rasi is the Dasa rasi itself. The Jeeva Rasi is obtained

by moving as many houses as the Dasa Rasi(Libra) has gained(5H) from

Lagna. Hence Jeeva Rasi falls in Aquarius.

>

> Paka rashi is not in kendra or trikona from lagna but bhoga rashi

is in kendra from AL. For auspicious result both paka and bhoga

rashi should in kendra or trikono from lagna and AL respectively.

>

> What should be the general effect in this case for such placement

of paka and bhoga rashi?

> Paka Rasi in 11H is not bad and is an upachaaya. But being a

benefic in upachaaya, he will be uncomfortable, especially when this

is in a sign of a maelfic and an enemy.

> Bhoga means fruits, and its rasi in quadrants to AL, is a good

sign and indicates that matters pertaining to A5 will be enjoyed. A5

stands for Power & Authority. Here we have to use the AD for timing.

>

> 7th house from Libra is stronger. Its lord Mars is in Cap. So

antardasa shall start from Cap. Cap is even sign. So antardasa is

reckoned in reverse.

> As 1st dasa starts from lagna, effects of all mahadasas are to be

seen from dasa rashi.

> Malefic mars in 4th - no happiness, shifting of residence. Moon in

8th - very adverse for mental happiness.

> Yes. Here Moon is in Marana Sthana with its enemy Ketu. This might

give tensions and emotional problems. Now, the exaltation of Moon is

a boon (Note: It is very close to its deepest exaltation.), as it

channels the native in spiritual directions. Let me quote

Gurudeva’s words (in green) here:

> “Another point is that when a planet is exalted, the negative

qualities are hardly seen in the person. That's why we start

learning Jyotish with the Chart of Bhagawan Sri Ram. (MARS EXALTED

IN THE 7TH HOUSE IN CAPRICORN REPRESENTS HANUMANJI...Can we say that

Maharishi Mahesh Yogi is also a Shiva-Avatar like Hanumanji?)â€

>

> Jup and sun in 6th - defeat in competition but spiritual

advancement He started learning astrology from start of this dasa.

> The position of Jupiter in 6H is not bad. As per COVA, it will

give satisfaction in employment. The problem here is that Sun the

baadhakesh (From Dasa Rasi) is posited in this house, and may cause

obstacles. Moreover, the lord in its own house protects the matters

pertaining to that house. Here Jupiter is also the 3L(co-borns) and

in 6H will cause problems with them. This precipitated in Libra AD.

Please note an important point here, In the AV of Libra(33 points,

high), only Mars & Lagna contribute mere 2 points. Interestingly

Mars is CharaBK and Rahu is AK and hence these two significations

were affected. Please refer to Page 80 in Narayana Dasa book. This

is an important principle.

>

> Mercury in 5th and dasa lord ven in 7th - good. Subdasas of the

signs containing mer and ven should give favourable result. Deblt

Rahu in 2nd to affect his regular income during this dasa.

> Good Point. Note that Dasa Rasi also houses AL, and malefics in 2H

& 8H from AL causes Kemadruma Yoga, which causes financial problems.

However, other indications should also be considered.

> Li dasa is for 6 yrs. Applying 1/3rd rule:

> 1st 2 years will be ruled by the dasa sign (3/98-3/00)

> Next 2 yrs give effect of lord (3/00-3/02)

> Last 2 yrs (3/02-3/04)will give effects of the planets aspecting

the sign by rashi dristi or conjoining it.

> Question came up here that if neither any planet is aspecting nor

any planet is conjoining the dasa rashi, then who will rule the last

1/3rd portion of the period.

> Here the lord of the Dasa Rasi will come forward and take over the

responsibility.

>

>

> As per lesson 5, all odd rashis are malefic and even rashis are

benefic. So Libra should be a malefic rashi and this period should

show it's effect?

> For Narayan dasa purpose, will the same rule for malefic and

benefic rashi will apply?

> I use the functional nature here. For Gemini Lagna, Venus is a

functional benefic and hence Libra will be a benefic rasi.

>

> 18.3.1998-17.3.2000

> Arround Sept 1999 (Li-Li) he shifted from Patna to Pune after a

quarrel with his brother. Li has mars in 4th.

> Malefic Mars in 4H will cause emotional problems and domestic

turmoil, especially when it is a functional malefic wrt to Dasa

Rasi. But more importantly, this Mars is the CharaBK, and as

mentioned earler, it contributes a mere 2 points in the AV for

Libra. Hence, his Chara Karakatwa is affected.

>

> Dec'1999, he got a job and inspite of problem he continued there.

>

> It was not clear why in that time he managed to get a job. Can the

1/3rd rule be applied for sub dasa rashi also? Li sub is from

16.9.1999 to 16.3.2000 (6 months), if 1/3rd rule is applied :

> 1st 2 months (16.9.1999 to 15.11.1999) wiil show rashi effect.

Libra being malefic rashi results were malefic

> next 2 months (16.11.1999 to 15.1.2000) will give its' lord

effect. Lord ven in inimical house. Benefic palnet in inimical house

will give adverse result at the begining, but he managed to get a

job in the begining only. In D10 Ven is swavarga in 8th from Lib-

aspected but 6th lord Jup who is with moon forming GKY in 4th. Can

it be told that-this is why he managed to get a job in this period?

> last 2 months (16.1.2000 to 16.3.2000) planerts aspecting or

conjoining the rashi will give effect. Lib aspected by 9L mer +

exaulted moon & ketu. This period was ok.

> Please note that the Dasa Rasi itself is a benefic one and the 5H,

which is an important house connected to Power, Acquisition of new

jobs etc. Here, the Dasa lord is in 11H from Lagna. The AD is that

of the 5H. Venus contributes 5 points to AV of Libra. I have not

tried dividing the AD into 3 parts. In my opinion, it should be

restricted to Dasa!

>

> 18.3.2000-17.3.2002

> In this period lord of dasa rashi will rule. Lord is Ven in 7th in

inimical house. Benefic palnet in inimical house will give adverse

result at the begining. In general effect in this period should be

good at the end.

> The effects were good till Nov'2000 but matters at all front

started becoming bad to worse after that. Enemity in job, family

problem and then ultimately loss of job in Oct'2001.

> Gurudeva, in his tapes, mentioned that planets in 7H from any

Arudha tends to oppose it. Here, the effects of 2nd part of the Dasa

is given by its lord Libra, which is placed in 7H from AL!!!!

>

> Follwing subs were running in this period,

> Virgo (17.3.2000 to 15.9.2000)

> Leo (16.9.2000 to 16.3.2001): Matters started deteriorating from

the start of 2nd 1/3 portion in this period. AD lord Sun in 8th from

Leo and 6th from MD rashi Lib-with swavarga Jup. Leo is aspected by

Mars and Ven-both inimical to Sun. No wonder-effects were not good

in this AD

> Apart from good points you have mentioned, Leo is also baadhaka

from Libra Dasa Rasi.

>

> Can (17.3.2001 to 15.9.2001) aspected by rahu (dblt in 5th), 12L

(from Can) mer (in 8th) and exaulted lord moon (with ketu) in 11th

> Analyzed wrt Dasa Rasi Libra, Cancer is the 10H and its lord is

afflicted in 8H from Dasa Rasi and aspected and conjoined by

malefics. I would have expected job problems in this AD!!

>

> Gem (16.9.2001 to 17.3.2002): malefic rashi (odd) with sat in it

and its lord in 8th from it. It is aspected by swavarga Jup and sun

from 10th. He lost job in Oct'2001 i.e in 1st 1/3 portion only. But

in the last portion he regained cofidence and started getting more

and more spiritually inclined.

> If we use Pachakadi Sambandha, Saturn is placed here and it

destroys the 6H from this sign, which happens to be the house of

Service, and having AK therein.

>

> 18.3.2002-16.3.2004

> In this period planets aspecting the rashi Lib will rule. Lib is

aspected by 9L/12L mer as well as exaulted moon & debltd ketu. So it

can be taken that this period should be good in general except for

mental tension due to 8th moon. Can we take that this period will

give effect similar to last part of Lib sub?

> There is chance for job changes, as 10L is in 8H, and 9L Mercury

which has Parivarthana Yoga with 5L Saturn, will give results of 5H

and give a new job.

>

> Follwing subs will be in this period:

> Tau (18.3.02-15.9.02)

> Ari (16.9.02-17.3.03): 10th from it has exaulted lord Mars, this

period may give him new job

> Pie (18.3.03-15.9.03)

> Aqu (16.9.03-16.3.04)

>

> As pointed out by you, Aries Dasa will be excellent. Note that it

aspects 11H fron AL, and itself is 11H from Lagna. With 5L there it

might indicate a new opportunity. Infact, during Aries AD, Libra

Dasa Rasi lord Venus, will transit into Dasa Rasi, this is a good

news. His prosperity will increase in the AD of Aquarius.

>

> Hope this helps.

>

> Regards,

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Dear Mr. Iyer,

 

thanks for your detailed and enlightening reply. Particullarly the following points have been noted,

 

The Deha rasi is the Dasa rasi itself. The Jeeva Rasi is obtained by moving as

many houses as the Dasa Rasi(Libra) has gained(5H) from Lagna. Hence Jeeva Rasi

falls in Aquarius.

 

Yes, it was a mistake on our part

 

Please refer to Page 80 in Narayana Dasa book. This is an important principle

 

Thanks for your guidance, we totally ignored this.

 

Question came up here that if neither any planet is aspecting nor any planet is

conjoining the dasa rashi, then who will rule the last 1/3rd portion of the

period.

Here the lord of the Dasa Rasi will come forward and take over the responsibility.

 

Thanks for the guidance

 

For Narayan dasa purpose, will the same rule for malefic and benefic rashi will apply?

I use the functional nature here. For Gemini Lagna, Venus is a functional

benefic and hence Libra will be a benefic rasi.

 

Thanks for the guidance. Can we take this as a general principle for narayan

dasa? Here doubt remains as to when the principles regarding benefic and

malefic natures of the rashi-as mentioned in lesson 5, is to be used?

 

I have not tried dividing the AD into 3 parts. In my opinion, it should be restricted to Dasa!

 

OK, but in that case it will be difficult to pin point the events with a shorter

span of time. Would you please guide us how to do it with moderate accuracy of

timing? Will transits help here?

 

Best regards,

 

dasgupta

 

-

Narayan Iyer

sjvc

Wednesday, July 17, 2002 9:27 PM

[sjvc] 5th meeting proceedings, mumbai chapter

om gurave namah

 

Dear JKDasgupta & Friends,

 

Please find my comments in blue. Chart used: Ashwin.

 

Next his current Libra dasa was taken up for analysis (from 18.3.1998).

 

Lord venus is in 7th. Neither debilated nor exaulted. So period of dasa will be 7-1=6 yrs

Deha rashi is Libra and Jeeva rashi is also be Libra as lord ven is in 7th from

it. Paka rashi is Ari and bhoga rashi is Can (having arudha of Ari - 11th

house).

 

The Deha rasi is the Dasa rasi itself. The Jeeva Rasi is obtained by moving as

many houses as the Dasa Rasi(Libra) has gained(5H) from Lagna. Hence Jeeva Rasi

falls in Aquarius.

 

Paka rashi is not in kendra or trikona from lagna but bhoga rashi is in kendra

from AL. For auspicious result both paka and bhoga rashi should in kendra or

trikono from lagna and AL respectively.

 

What should be the general effect in this case for such placement of paka and bhoga rashi?

Paka Rasi in 11H is not bad and is an upachaaya. But being a benefic in

upachaaya, he will be uncomfortable, especially when this is in a sign of a

maelfic and an enemy.

Bhoga means fruits, and its rasi in quadrants to AL, is a good sign and

indicates that matters pertaining to A5 will be enjoyed. A5 stands for Power &

Authority. Here we have to use the AD for timing.

 

7th house from Libra is stronger. Its lord Mars is in Cap. So antardasa shall

start from Cap. Cap is even sign. So antardasa is reckoned in reverse.

As 1st dasa starts from lagna, effects of all mahadasas are to be seen from dasa rashi.

Malefic mars in 4th - no happiness, shifting of residence. Moon in 8th - very

adverse for mental happiness.

Yes. Here Moon is in Marana Sthana with its enemy Ketu. This might give tensions

and emotional problems. Now, the exaltation of Moon is a boon (Note: It is very

close to its deepest exaltation.), as it channels the native in spiritual

directions. Let me quote Gurudeva’s words (in green) here:

“Another point is that when a planet is exalted, the negative qualities are

hardly seen in the person. That's why we start learning Jyotish with the Chart

of Bhagawan Sri Ram. (MARS EXALTED IN THE 7TH HOUSE IN CAPRICORN REPRESENTS

HANUMANJI...Can we say that Maharishi Mahesh Yogi is also a Shiva-Avatar like

Hanumanji?)â€

 

Jup and sun in 6th - defeat in competition but spiritual advancement He started

learning astrology from start of this dasa.

The position of Jupiter in 6H is not bad. As per COVA, it will give satisfaction

in employment. The problem here is that Sun the baadhakesh (From Dasa Rasi) is

posited in this house, and may cause obstacles. Moreover, the lord in its own

house protects the matters pertaining to that house. Here Jupiter is also the

3L(co-borns) and in 6H will cause problems with them. This precipitated in

Libra AD. Please note an important point here, In the AV of Libra(33 points,

high), only Mars & Lagna contribute mere 2 points. Interestingly Mars is

CharaBK and Rahu is AK and hence these two significations were affected. Please

refer to Page 80 in Narayana Dasa book. This is an important principle.

 

Mercury in 5th and dasa lord ven in 7th - good. Subdasas of the signs containing

mer and ven should give favourable result. Deblt Rahu in 2nd to affect his

regular income during this dasa.

Good Point. Note that Dasa Rasi also houses AL, and malefics in 2H & 8H from AL

causes Kemadruma Yoga, which causes financial problems. However, other

indications should also be considered.

Li dasa is for 6 yrs. Applying 1/3rd rule:

1st 2 years will be ruled by the dasa sign (3/98-3/00)

Next 2 yrs give effect of lord (3/00-3/02)

Last 2 yrs (3/02-3/04)will give effects of the planets aspecting the sign by

rashi dristi or conjoining it.

Question came up here that if neither any planet is aspecting nor any planet is

conjoining the dasa rashi, then who will rule the last 1/3rd portion of the

period.

Here the lord of the Dasa Rasi will come forward and take over the responsibility.

 

 

As per lesson 5, all odd rashis are malefic and even rashis are benefic. So

Libra should be a malefic rashi and this period should show it's effect?

For Narayan dasa purpose, will the same rule for malefic and benefic rashi will apply?

I use the functional nature here. For Gemini Lagna, Venus is a functional

benefic and hence Libra will be a benefic rasi.

 

18.3.1998-17.3.2000

Arround Sept 1999 (Li-Li) he shifted from Patna to Pune after a quarrel with his

brother. Li has mars in 4th.

Malefic Mars in 4H will cause emotional problems and domestic turmoil,

especially when it is a functional malefic wrt to Dasa Rasi. But more

importantly, this Mars is the CharaBK, and as mentioned earler, it contributes

a mere 2 points in the AV for Libra. Hence, his Chara Karakatwa is affected.

 

Dec'1999, he got a job and inspite of problem he continued there.

 

It was not clear why in that time he managed to get a job. Can the 1/3rd rule be

applied for sub dasa rashi also? Li sub is from 16.9.1999 to 16.3.2000 (6

months), if 1/3rd rule is applied :

1st 2 months (16.9.1999 to 15.11.1999) wiil show rashi effect. Libra being

malefic rashi results were malefic

next 2 months (16.11.1999 to 15.1.2000) will give its' lord effect. Lord ven in

inimical house. Benefic palnet in inimical house will give adverse result at

the begining, but he managed to get a job in the begining only. In D10 Ven is

swavarga in 8th from Lib-aspected but 6th lord Jup who is with moon forming GKY

in 4th. Can it be told that-this is why he managed to get a job in this period?

last 2 months (16.1.2000 to 16.3.2000) planerts aspecting or conjoining the

rashi will give effect. Lib aspected by 9L mer + exaulted moon & ketu. This

period was ok.

Please note that the Dasa Rasi itself is a benefic one and the 5H, which is an

important house connected to Power, Acquisition of new jobs etc. Here, the Dasa

lord is in 11H from Lagna. The AD is that of the 5H. Venus contributes 5 points

to AV of Libra. I have not tried dividing the AD into 3 parts. In my opinion,

it should be restricted to Dasa!

 

18.3.2000-17.3.2002

In this period lord of dasa rashi will rule. Lord is Ven in 7th in inimical

house. Benefic palnet in inimical house will give adverse result at the

begining. In general effect in this period should be good at the end.

The effects were good till Nov'2000 but matters at all front started becoming

bad to worse after that. Enemity in job, family problem and then ultimately

loss of job in Oct'2001.

Gurudeva, in his tapes, mentioned that planets in 7H from any Arudha tends to

oppose it. Here, the effects of 2nd part of the Dasa is given by its lord

Libra, which is placed in 7H from AL!!!!

 

Follwing subs were running in this period,

Virgo (17.3.2000 to 15.9.2000)

Leo (16.9.2000 to 16.3.2001): Matters started deteriorating from the start of

2nd 1/3 portion in this period. AD lord Sun in 8th from Leo and 6th from MD

rashi Lib-with swavarga Jup. Leo is aspected by Mars and Ven-both inimical to

Sun. No wonder-effects were not good in this AD

Apart from good points you have mentioned, Leo is also baadhaka from Libra Dasa Rasi.

 

Can (17.3.2001 to 15.9.2001) aspected by rahu (dblt in 5th), 12L (from Can) mer

(in 8th) and exaulted lord moon (with ketu) in 11th

Analyzed wrt Dasa Rasi Libra, Cancer is the 10H and its lord is afflicted in 8H

from Dasa Rasi and aspected and conjoined by malefics. I would have expected

job problems in this AD!!

 

Gem (16.9.2001 to 17.3.2002): malefic rashi (odd) with sat in it and its lord in

8th from it. It is aspected by swavarga Jup and sun from 10th. He lost job in

Oct'2001 i.e in 1st 1/3 portion only. But in the last portion he regained

cofidence and started getting more and more spiritually inclined.

If we use Pachakadi Sambandha, Saturn is placed here and it destroys the 6H from

this sign, which happens to be the house of Service, and having AK therein.

 

18.3.2002-16.3.2004

In this period planets aspecting the rashi Lib will rule. Lib is aspected by

9L/12L mer as well as exaulted moon & debltd ketu. So it can be taken that this

period should be good in general except for mental tension due to 8th moon. Can

we take that this period will give effect similar to last part of Lib sub?

There is chance for job changes, as 10L is in 8H, and 9L Mercury which has

Parivarthana Yoga with 5L Saturn, will give results of 5H and give a new job.

 

Follwing subs will be in this period:

Tau (18.3.02-15.9.02)

Ari (16.9.02-17.3.03): 10th from it has exaulted lord Mars, this period may give him new job

Pie (18.3.03-15.9.03)

Aqu (16.9.03-16.3.04)

 

As pointed out by you, Aries Dasa will be excellent. Note that it aspects 11H

fron AL, and itself is 11H from Lagna. With 5L there it might indicate a new

opportunity. Infact, during Aries AD, Libra Dasa Rasi lord Venus, will transit

into Dasa Rasi, this is a good news. His prosperity will increase in the AD of

Aquarius.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Regards,

Skanda

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