Guest guest Posted July 5, 2002 Report Share Posted July 5, 2002 Om Gurave Namah Dear Sanjay Guru, Pranams, Thanks very much for taking time and commenting on my attempt. It surely came as a great surprise for me. Jupiter is finally in cancer and he aspects my matrapada by rasi dristi now. Can i have the inititation mantra from you gurudev? Your humble sishya Hari - Sanjay Rath sjvc Friday, July 05, 2002 9:41 PM RE: [sjvc] Lesson # 5 Submission. From Katti Narahari Om Namo Bhagavate Vaasudevaya Dear Katti Good attempt. Try correlating colors and items or things also with this basic evaluation. For example why is yellow attributed to Jupiter white to Venus? What are the colors of the signs? Light Pink causes the exaltation of Jupiter and this is the color of UGRATARA..the Adi Shakti of Brihaspati. Understand the Mahavidya in this manner. With best wishes Sanjay Rath http://sanjayrath.tripod.com Katti Narahari [katti_narahari (AT) hotmail (DOT) com]Tuesday, July 02, 2002 1:25 PMTo: sjvcCc: Sat Shri; Visti Larsen[sjvc] Lesson # 5 Submission. From Katti Narahari Om gurave Namah Pranams to all guru's, Please be kind enough to evaluate my lesson 5 submission attempt and guide me. Q1. In your chart or any chart, explain how a lagna sign’s characteristics and planets connected with that lagna sign influence the native’s personality and health. Ans. My chart data is as follows. 3rd nov 1970 8:33AM, Bangalore, India (77E36, 12N58) Time zone -5:30 E Scorpio lagna rises with no planet posted in Sc. Sc has two lords, mars and ketu. Mars is in the 11th house, in Virgo where as Ketu is posted in the 10th in Leo. Both mars and ketu are with no other planet i.e they are alone. But ketu get;s to be the lord of Sc for the following reasons. 1. Ketu is posted in Leo, and Leo lord sun aspects ketu. 2. More number of planets aspect ketu. In this case Jupiter, Mercury, Sun and Venus ® (Venus is my Ak) aspect ketu in Leo. Hence ketu get's to be my lagna lord. Starting from the characteristics of lagna viz. Sc, my observations are the following. Sc, Scorpio rises with the head and it is of long ascension. It is a watery sign, so taking a cue from that. i should have been on the fatter side. But on the contrary, i am skinny. This is because of the fact that Saturn who is a Airy planet, posted in Aries who is a dry sign, making me skinny or lean. To add to this, lagna lord Ketu is also posted in a dry sign Leo. Due to the fact that Saturn from Aries has a rasi dristi on my lagna i am lean. Going further since Saturn from Aries has a rasi aspect on my lagna, i should have been dark in appearance. Seeing my navamsa lagna which happens to be Sagittarius is aspected by Sun and Venus by Rasi aspect. Navamsa lagna lord is Jupiter and hence my complexion is fair. Since my Lagna is Sc which is of long ascension, i am taller than normal average. ofcourse keeping in mind kala, desha and patra. For Indian standards i could be considered tall. My lagna has an argala from moon (moon is in the 2nd in saggi), thus moon intervenes in the affairs of my lagna. The above description was largely physical in nature. Now to my personality traits based on my lagna. Sc lagna shows that inherently i am to some extent secretive and come across as an introvert person. I very rarely forget and forgive. As the traits of Sc, i am deeply interested in occult viz Vedic Astrology. Q2. Explain the reason for exaltation and ownership signs of all planets. See lesson #4 as Reference. Ans. I had read on the list an analogy given by Gurudev Shri Narasimha Rao regarding Moolatrikona being Dharma or duty, own house being as a comfortable state, exaltation as being the happiest state and debilitation being the most un-happy state for planets. I hope to use the same analogy to explain why each planet has it;s MT (moola-trikona), own house, Exaltation and debilitation as certain houses only. Sun The graha sun stands for Atman and the self. Aries is the first sign in the natural zodiac and corresponds to the self, physique. Aries is a fiery sign and Rajasic in nature. What sun enjoys doing is boosting the activity of the Atma. Thus Aries is the exaltation point of Sun. The fifth sign in the natural zodiac is Leo. Its Saatwik in nature. The 5th stands for intelligence. This is Sun's duty or Dharma. Thus Leo is the Moolatrikona sign of Sun. This activity is also what sun is comfortable in performing. Thus Leo is sun;s own house too. Leo is also the place for kings. The giver of Raja yoga is Sun!!!! The 7th sign in the natural zodiac is the setting sign too. The sun is weak when he sets. Thus this is the place where sun does not like being as compared to east (Aries from the natural zodiac) where he is strong the 7th sign Libra is his debilitation point. Moon Cancer is the 4th sign in the natural zodiac. The 4th signifies Mother. What moon (mother) is comfortable doing is taking care of the child. Thus Cancer is the own house for Moon. Mother is most happy when the child is fed. The second house in the natural zodiac stands for Food. In broader sense this house also stands for sustenance. Food sustains. Thus moon is most happiest when food is provided to the child. Thus Taurus is the Exaltation point of moon. The Dharma or duty of moon also is sustenance.This too falls in Taurus. Thus Moolatrikona of moon is Taurus. As taught in lesson 5, if 2nd house stands for feeding then the 8th house is where moon will be most unhappy. This 8th house that is Scorpio has nothing to do with sustenance, in fact it;s the opposite of sustenance. Thus moon naturally get;s debilitated in the sign of Scorpio. Mars. The first house in the natural zodiac is Aries which stands for physique and it's strength. Mars is comfortable providing strength to the physique. Thus Aries is the own house for mars The Dharma or duty of mars coincides with the activity of boosting strength. Thus Aries is it's moolatrikona also Mars signifies action or planned karma. Thus mars is most happiest in the 10th house (karma) of the natural zodiac. This is Capricorn. Capricorn is an earthy sign. Mars is most happy in performing defined karma. Thus mars is exalted in Capricorn Mars is tamasic in nature. The primordial element of mars is fire. Cancer is a saatwik in nature and it's primordial element is water. All this is opposite traits of mars. The element of water is fluid.. again opposite of earthy as in Capricorn. Thus mars hates to be in Cancer. Mars debilitation point is Cancer Mercury Mercury stands for intellect and communications. The 3rd sign in the natural zodiac, Gemini stands for these attributes. This is what mercury is comfortable doing. Thus Gemini is the own house for mercury. Mercury loves debates. Matching one;s wit against another, leading often to arguments. The 6th house in the natural zodiac is Virgo. As mentioned Mercury does best in debates and arguments. Thus mercury is Exalted in the tamasic sign of Virgo. While Mercury is comfortable in Gemini performing the actions of communications, the dharma or duty of mercury again in debates and matching wits. Thus Virgo is the moolatrikona of mercury Mercury's element is earth and taamasic. Mercury is most uncomfortable in a watery and a saatwik sign Pisces. Thus Debilitation of mercury happens in Pisces Jupiter Jupiter is a Saatwik planet. Jupiter stands for knowledge, wisdom, guru of the many things. Jupiter is most comfortable in a watery sign of Pisces analogous to religious practices. Thus Jupiter;s own house is Pisces Jupiter;s duty is the upholding dharma. Thus the 9th house of the natural zodiac which is the fiery Sagittarius is where Jupiter;s duty lies. Thus Sagittarius is the Moolatrikona of Jupiter. The 4th house in the natural zodiac is cancer. 4th house is knowledge, teachings of the guru. This is what Jupiter is most happy performing.. that is imparting knowledge. Thus Cancer is the exaltation point of Jupiter. Jupiter is Saatwik in nature. He is most unhappy being placed in a tamasic sign of Capricorn. Capricorn also is the 10th house (action or karma) of the natural zodiac. Jupiter inherent nature is to be idealistic. He does not like performing defined (practical) actions. Thus Capricorn is the debilitation point of Jupiter. Venus Venus is the most refined planet. She stands for marriage and related matters. The 7th sign of the natural zodiac is Libra. The dharma of Venus is to promote marriage. Thus Libra is the moolatrikona of Venus. Venus is most comfortable performing the above said activity that is of promoting the institution of marriage. Thus Libra is also the own house for Venus The 12th house stands for pleasures of the bed. This is what Venus is most happy in bringing out. Thus the 12th sign of the natural zodiac, Pisces is the Exaltation point of Venus The opposite traits of Venus is debates and/or arguments. This is the taamasic sign of Virgo as it;s the 6th from the natural zodiac. This is where Venus hates to be in. Thus Virgo is the debilitation point for Venus Satrun In the scheme of planets, Saturn is the eldest of all. The dharma of satrun is to behave and act like that of an elder brother. Hence Aquarius, the 11th house in the natural zodiac is where his dharma is. Thus the moolatrikona of saturn is Aquarius. Saturn is the planet which judges us based on karma. Our actions make this great planet saturn to either save us or punish us. Thus Saturn is comfortable in the 10th house (karma) of the natural zodiac. Thus Capricorn is the own house of saturn. Saturn in addition to being the eldest and promoter of karma is the ultimate judge. The power to punish is rests with satrun. The only sign in the natural zodiac that has the symbol and the inner meaning of justice (The balance) is Libra. Thus Libra is the exaltation point of Saturn. Saturn's dire enemy is Sun. Next enemy is Mars. Thus how can saturn be happy when he is in Aries? Aries is the exaltation (happiest state) of sun and the arena of mars too. Thus saturn would never be happy in Aries. Thus Aries is the debilitation sign of Satrun. Rahu Rahu is the moon;s ascending node. He is characterized by the fact that he has a head unlike ketu the moon's descending node. Rahu's Dharma or duty is to instigate fights, arguments and accidents. Thus the Moolatrikona of Rahu is Virgo, the 6th sign of the natural zodiac. Rahu is comfortable in giving material gains. Thus Rahu owns the 11th sign in the natural zodiac, that being Aquarius The 3rd house of the natural zodiac is Gemini and rahu gives creative work. This makes him very happy. Thus Gemini is the exaltation point of Rahu. Rahu has little respect for well laid down dharma or conventional rules and wisdom. Thus Rahu is debilitated in Sagittarius Ketu Ketu has no head. Thus he has no desires. The duty of ketu is the ultimate goal of moksha. The 12th sign of the natural zodiac stands for final liberation from this cycle of birth. Thus ketu's moolatrikona is Pisces. Ketu is most happy when he is involved with religious activities. This is the 9th sign of the natural zodiac. Thus Sagittarius is the exaltation point of Ketu Ketu is most comfortable imparting the knowledge of occult. This is the 8th (secret) sign of the natural zodiac - Scorpio. Thus Scorpio is the own house for Ketu Ketu being without desires and promoter of religion can never be happy in Gemini. Gemini is the 3rd house in the natural zodiac which stands for desires. 3rd house is also an Upachaya which stands for effort to gain something. Thus Gemini is the debilitation sign of Ketu Q3. Take the dual rasis owned by non-luminous planets and compare the characteristics of their 2 rasi's. Find out how the lordship get;s altered for these two rasis because of the difference in characteristics. Ans. The dual signs are Gemini, Virgo, Sagittarius and Pisces. I will first start to attempt the 1st pair of Gemini and Virgo which are lorded by Mercury. Mercury owns both Gemini and Virgo. The overall characteristic of Gemini is that of the yuvaraja or the heir apparent. All mercury likes to do is to play, entertain, be entertained. All this traits are that of Gemini, where as Virgo as a sign is to more evolved. The other traits of mercury like that of debates, matching one;s wit against the other. Thus both Gemini and Virgo though owned by the same mercury, the characteristics of each of these signs are so very different Sagittarius and Pisces are owned by Jupiter. Sagittarius is the 9th house in the natural zodiac and the traits of Sagittarius is always to uphold and promote Dharma. This same Jupiter who owns Pisces also behaves differently here. Pisces is the 12th house in the natural zodiac. The 12th house stands for Moksha and Charity. It also stands for religious places. Thus again, the characteristics of Pisces and Sagittarius are vastly different even though their lord is the same. I most eagerly await an evaluation of this attempt of mine. I look forward to the guru;s and other learned members to correct and guide me. Best Wishes Katti Narahari. Hari ARISE, TRANSCEND THYSELF.THOU ART MAN AND THE WHOLE NATURE OF MANIS TO BECOME MORE THAN HIMSELF-Sri Aurobindo Your use of is subject to the Terms of Service. 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