Guest guest Posted June 14, 2002 Report Share Posted June 14, 2002 Sorry, forgot to attach the chart of the woman who had an abortion. Regards, Arno Attachment: (application/octet-stream) Isa rectified.jhd [not stored] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2002 Report Share Posted June 14, 2002 Vyam Vysadevaya Namah ---------------------- Dear Arno, Is it Abortian or miscarriage? Miscarriage happens due to incapability of the persons body to sustain the childbirth, and is due to the weakness of Moon(mother) in the chart. When both Rahu and Ketu afflict a house then, miscarriage is likely. Similarly if Badhakesh or 10th lord(in case of mothers) influence. As abortian happens due to the desire of the native, the Graha Dristi of grahas is important, to show the desire to kill the child.. allthough the actual reason for doing so may be otherwise(age, circumstances, etc). In the chart you have given, Jupiter and Rahu sit in Lagna forming a yoga for MANUSHYA HATYA, and give Graha dristi on the 9th house(first child for even lagnas). This shows the mothers decission to kill the child. On top of that, Rahu is lord of 10th house, and lord of the child; Saturn is also badhakesh whilst debilitated with Mars and Moon in the 12th from Saptamsa Lagna. So i would say your rectification is acurate. The event happened in Rahu Maha Dasa, who desires to kill the child. Moon Antara was running and is Natural bodhak for Rahu, whilst lording the 3rd house of conception, hence Moon got her pregnant. Moon is in no way associated with Darapada in Rasi, hence the person who got her pregnant may not have been someone she would normally associate with. Mercury PratyAntar was running, and is in trines to Moon, furnishing the conception timing, as well as the abortian. Do you know how she got pregnant? Best wishes, Visti. - Arno Holzmann sjvc Friday, June 14, 2002 9:16 AM [sjvc] abortion Dear friends, pranaam Yesterday I received the chart of a woman who had an abortion in August1997. her chart is attached. She says the mother remembers her birthtimeas 13.30 while the birth certificate says 13.45. I checked the saptamshaand navamsha and noticed that a 15 minutes change in the brith timechanges the saptamsha lagna 3 times and the navamsha lagna 4 times. I selected 13.35 as the birth time because here fifth in saptamsha andfifth in navamsha seem highly afflicted but I am not sure about mycorrection.Are there any specific combinations for abortion? Anyone has experiencewith this subject matter? Looking forward to receive feedback from youlearned panditas. Your use of is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2002 Report Share Posted June 14, 2002 Om Namo Narayanaya, Dear Arno, Though Visti is perfectly right about the Saptamsa, I would also like to add some basics. 1. Budha and Shani/Rahu rule natural maraka houses from the 5th house in natural Zodiac (leo), while Shukra is ruler of thula, a rashi, where Surya would be debilitated. Further, Shukra is enemy of Guru. Mangal (mesh is natural badhak from leo),so Mangal would also tend to destroy the child. So all these grahas would due to their own karakatwas hamper the childbirth. If lagnesh becomes associated with these grahas in the 5th/6th and 11th house, there may come self-decission to abort the pregnancy. It would be more pronunced if graha is atmakarak. 2. Chandra rules exaltation sign of Guru-karak. Chandra is further motherly graha. So chandra will rule childbirth, particularly in females. Now, look at the chart you sent. (just Rashi chart for a start). Mangal is atmakarak and ruler of lagna in 7th house, which tells the story at the first step. Self decision, and own mistake in entering relationship. Mangal aspects Chandra as lagnesh and lord of 5th house from Guru (responsible for bringing the child). Chandra is afflicted by shukra/shani/budha. The situation is clear. Chandra is with lord of Arudha LAgna in 5th from it, so it will naturally tend to bring the child, besides its karak significations. Yet, the key point is Mangal as atma aspecting Chandra. Chandra has also brought the partners being in 7th from Shukra. So the story unfolds.. Before entering Navamsa and Saptamsa, Rashi chart must be clearly understood. Best wishes Zoran Arno Holzmann wrote: > Dear friends, pranaam > > Yesterday I received the chart of a woman who had an abortion in August > 1997. her chart is attached. She says the mother remembers her birthtime > as 13.30 while the birth certificate says 13.45. I checked the saptamsha > and navamsha and noticed that a 15 minutes change in the brith time > changes the saptamsha lagna 3 times and the navamsha lagna 4 times. > > I selected 13.35 as the birth time because here fifth in saptamsha and > fifth in navamsha seem highly afflicted but I am not sure about my > correction. > > Are there any specific combinations for abortion? Anyone has experience > with this subject matter? Looking forward to receive feedback from you > learned panditas. Your use of is subject to -- Zoran Radosavljevic Jyotish Teacher at Shri Jagannath Vedic Centre mails: ahimsa ahimsa web address: http://www.sjvc.co.yu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2002 Report Share Posted June 14, 2002 Om Namo Narayanaya, One more point I 've forgoten. Look at surya/guru and rahu in 12th from Arudha Lagna... The problem is confirmed. What do you think, why has this happened? What lesson the lady has to learn? Best wishes Zoran Zoran Radosavljevic wrote: > Om Namo Narayanaya, > Dear Arno, > Though Visti is perfectly right about the Saptamsa, I would also like to add > some basics. > 1. Budha and Shani/Rahu rule natural maraka houses from the 5th house in > natural Zodiac (leo), while Shukra is ruler of thula, a rashi, where Surya > would be debilitated. Further, Shukra is enemy of Guru. Mangal (mesh is > natural badhak from leo),so Mangal would also tend to destroy the child. So > all these grahas would due to their own karakatwas hamper the childbirth. If > lagnesh becomes associated with these grahas in the 5th/6th and 11th house, > there may come self-decission to abort the pregnancy. It would be more > pronunced if graha is atmakarak. > 2. Chandra rules exaltation sign of Guru-karak. Chandra is further motherly > graha. So chandra will rule childbirth, particularly in females. > Now, look at the chart you sent. (just Rashi chart for a start). Mangal is > atmakarak and ruler of lagna in 7th house, which tells the story at the first > step. Self decision, and own mistake in entering relationship. Mangal aspects > Chandra as lagnesh and lord of 5th house from Guru (responsible for bringing > the child). Chandra is afflicted by shukra/shani/budha. The situation is > clear. Chandra is with lord of Arudha LAgna in 5th from it, so it will > naturally tend to bring the child, besides its karak significations. Yet, the > key point is Mangal as atma aspecting Chandra. Chandra has also brought the > partners being in 7th from Shukra. So the story unfolds.. Before entering > Navamsa and Saptamsa, Rashi chart must be clearly understood. > Best wishes > Zoran > > Arno Holzmann wrote: > > > Dear friends, pranaam > > > > Yesterday I received the chart of a woman who had an abortion in August > > 1997. her chart is attached. She says the mother remembers her birthtime > > as 13.30 while the birth certificate says 13.45. I checked the saptamsha > > and navamsha and noticed that a 15 minutes change in the brith time > > changes the saptamsha lagna 3 times and the navamsha lagna 4 times. > > > > I selected 13.35 as the birth time because here fifth in saptamsha and > > fifth in navamsha seem highly afflicted but I am not sure about my > > correction. > > > > Are there any specific combinations for abortion? Anyone has experience > > with this subject matter? Looking forward to receive feedback from you > > learned panditas. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > -- > Zoran Radosavljevic > Jyotish Teacher at Shri Jagannath Vedic Centre > mails: ahimsa > ahimsa > web address: http://www.sjvc.co.yu > > > > > Your use of is subject to -- Zoran Radosavljevic Jyotish Teacher at Shri Jagannath Vedic Centre mails: ahimsa ahimsa web address: http://www.sjvc.co.yu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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