Guest guest Posted May 3, 2002 Report Share Posted May 3, 2002 OM GURAVE NAMAH HARE RAMA KRISHNA Dear List members, Kala Sarpa Yoga is said to become defunct if Rahu or Ketu is conjoined by benefics. Does this mean only conjunction or even the general case of aspect on Rahu and/or conjunction with benefics by the dispositor of Rahu and Kethu.Also, Ms.Nisha had spoken of Anant Yog etc . Can she / someone else elaborate on the effects of the various placements of Rahu/Kethu axis, especially Anant Yog? The reason for asking is pretty obvious.I have a powerful Kala Sarpa Yoga with no planet conjunct Rahu and Kethu, and Rahu and Kethu Vargothama in their Moolatrikona - very powerful Rahu and Kethu. One possible set of results for the various positions of the Rahu Kethu axis could be : (these are just my humble propositions , not validated from any text) Rahu - Kethu axis - Effects 1-7 Health, marriage and relationships with others affected. Person has to struggle in life till the yoga breaks (1st house).Period of Kethu will give foreign travel but the native may suffer in foreign countries.Dispositor of Kethu can give access to spiritual knowledge in his period after he has suffered in the Rahu period. 2-8 Wealth and family life affected. 3-9 Higher education and courage affected 4-10 Inner happiness (peace) affected 5-11 Happiness from children and real gains for oneself affected 6-12 Mere placement of Rahu Kethu in these houses can give victory over enemies.I don't know what will happen if there is a KSY also.Will enemies get totally vanquished, especially if it is from A6 (Arudha of the 6th house).Such a combination is good for lawyers and politicians as well as CEO's 7-1 Deceit in marriage/relationships with others( perpetrated by the native , unlike the 1-7 axis when others harm the native) 8-2 loss in inheritance and misuse of occult knowledge or research in base activities, frustration in aforementioned leads to search for inner peace 9-3 Irreligious 10-4 Native is a backstabber in his profession? .... I could go on with mental speculation.But, i don't know whether this approach is right , i.e giving one set of results to Rahu Kethu axis in say 1-7 houses and another set to 7-1 houses and giving the basis of the result on affliction to the materialsitic indications indicated by houses occupied by Rahu and Kethu and development of spiritual indications indicated by Kethu's house. I request the Gurus to please correct my understanding. Your sishya K.N.Sriram sjvc, "j.k. dasgupta" <dga@b...> wrote: > thanks shailesh for the piece of knowledge. > > regards, > > dasgupta > - > Shailesh > sjvc > Friday, May 03, 2002 4:57 PM > Re: Re[4]: [sjvc] KSY-shailesh > > > Dear Dasgupta ji, > > My understanding - subject to confirmation of Gurus- is: > > -while KSY/KAY is running, the 'Kingship' of AK is high-jacked by RA, or KE, whoever is leading the chain, or the Sarpa. > > - when the Yoga breaks, or matures, the AK resumes his sovereignity. All other planets, including RA & KE, will manifest their influence, as per their respective significance in the chart concerned - strength, relationship with AK & other planets, placement, lordship, aspects, chara & other karakatwas. > > As I said, this in IMHO - Guru ji, please correct me. > > Best wishes, > > Shailesh > > - > j.k. dasgupta > sjvc > Friday, May 03, 2002 4:09 PM > Re: Re[4]: [sjvc] KSY-shailesh > > > dear shailesh, > > does it mean that rah and ketu will have no role to play? or will they also have a say minus the KSY/KAY effect? > > regards > > dasgupta > > > - > Shailesh > sjvc > Friday, May 03, 2002 12:42 PM > Re: Re[4]: [sjvc] KSY > > > Dear Dasgupta ji, > > Sanjay ji has taught that KAY leads a person to spirituality and KSY to materiality. > > The second part of the teaching is that, after the break, or coming of the natural age, of the KAY/ KSY yoga, the 'vice' of RA/ KE over the native breaks and the chara AK comes into play. > > Thereafter, the course of events in a natives life will be guided by AK and other inherent indications of the individual chart. > > I hope I have understood Guruji's lessons properly. > > With best wishes, > > Shailesh > > - > "j.k. dasgupta" <dga@b...> > <sjvc> > Friday, May 03, 2002 12:01 PM > Re: Re[4]: [sjvc] KSY > > > > dear doc, > > > > i think it is not correct. > > > > when KSY matures, the suffering makes the person materialistic but when KAY > > matures, the person becomes more spiritual. > > > > but that also most probably depends on which planet is stronger. i have KAY > > and it seems it has matured about 2-3 years ago. my rahu is exaulted in 4H. > > i feel that i have become more matured, more materialistic and practical now > > than before. > > > > regards > > > > dasgupta > > > > > > > > Terms of Service. > > > Sponsor > > > > > > Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2002 Report Share Posted May 3, 2002 Dear Sriram, I quote from Sanjay ji's lesson: The Kala Sarpa or Amrita Yoga can be broken under the following circumstances: (1) A natural benefic planet joins the first or seventh house (These are the Satya Peetha or the places from where we learn about the real truth). (2) A natural benefic planet conjoins the nodes. Natural malefic planets conjoining the nodes does break the KSY & KAY also but then there is no benefit of luxury, wealth or power etc. Check whether you have a natural benefic in 7th house. Your approach for assessment, based on the RA/KE axis is correct. Let us hope Guruji will confirm our thinking. Best Wishes, Shailesh - snk110 sjvc Friday, May 03, 2002 9:12 PM Re: [sjvc] KSY-shailesh OM GURAVE NAMAHHARE RAMA KRISHNADear List members, Kala Sarpa Yoga is said to become defunct if Rahu or Ketu is conjoined by benefics. Does this mean only conjunction or even the general case of aspect on Rahu and/or conjunction with benefics by the dispositor of Rahu and Kethu.Also, Ms.Nisha had spoken of Anant Yog etc . Can she / someone else elaborate on the effects of the various placements of Rahu/Kethu axis, especially Anant Yog? The reason for asking is pretty obvious.I have a powerful Kala Sarpa Yoga with no planet conjunct Rahu and Kethu, and Rahu and Kethu Vargothama in their Moolatrikona - very powerful Rahu and Kethu. One possible set of results for the various positions of the Rahu Kethu axis could be : (these are just my humble propositions , not validated from any text)Rahu - Kethu axis - Effects1-7 Health, marriage and relationships with others affected. Person has to struggle in life till the yoga breaks (1st house).Period of Kethu will give foreign travel but the native may suffer in foreign countries.Dispositor of Kethu can give access to spiritual knowledge in his period after he has suffered in the Rahu period.2-8 Wealth and family life affected.3-9 Higher education and courage affected4-10 Inner happiness (peace) affected5-11 Happiness from children and real gains for oneself affected6-12 Mere placement of Rahu Kethu in these houses can give victory over enemies.I don't know what will happen if there is a KSY also.Will enemies get totally vanquished, especially if it is from A6 (Arudha of the 6th house).Such a combination is good for lawyers and politicians as well as CEO's7-1 Deceit in marriage/relationships with others( perpetrated by the native , unlike the 1-7 axis when others harm the native)8-2 loss in inheritance and misuse of occult knowledge or research in base activities, frustration in aforementioned leads to search for inner peace9-3 Irreligious 10-4 Native is a backstabber in his profession?...I could go on with mental speculation.But, i don't know whether this approach is right , i.e giving one set of results to Rahu Kethu axis in say 1-7 houses and another set to 7-1 houses and giving the basis of the result on affliction to the materialsitic indications indicated by houses occupied by Rahu and Kethu and development of spiritual indications indicated by Kethu's house.I request the Gurus to please correct my understanding.Your sishyaK.N.Sriramsjvc, "j.k. dasgupta" <dga@b...> wrote:> thanks shailesh for the piece of knowledge.> > regards,> > dasgupta> - > Shailesh > sjvc > Friday, May 03, 2002 4:57 PM> Re: Re[4]: [sjvc] KSY-shailesh> > > Dear Dasgupta ji,> > My understanding - subject to confirmation of Gurus- is:> > -while KSY/KAY is running, the 'Kingship' of AK is high-jacked by RA, or KE, whoever is leading the chain, or the Sarpa.> > - when the Yoga breaks, or matures, the AK resumes his sovereignity. All other planets, including RA & KE, will manifest their influence, as per their respective significance in the chart concerned - strength, relationship with AK & other planets, placement, lordship, aspects, chara & other karakatwas.> > As I said, this in IMHO - Guru ji, please correct me.> > Best wishes,> > Shailesh> > - > j.k. dasgupta > sjvc > Friday, May 03, 2002 4:09 PM> Re: Re[4]: [sjvc] KSY-shailesh> > > dear shailesh,> > does it mean that rah and ketu will have no role to play? or will they also have a say minus the KSY/KAY effect?> > regards> > dasgupta> > > - > Shailesh > sjvc > Friday, May 03, 2002 12:42 PM> Re: Re[4]: [sjvc] KSY> > > Dear Dasgupta ji,> > Sanjay ji has taught that KAY leads a person to spirituality and KSY to materiality.> > The second part of the teaching is that, after the break, or coming of the natural age, of the KAY/ KSY yoga, the 'vice' of RA/ KE over the native breaks and the chara AK comes into play.> > Thereafter, the course of events in a natives life will be guided by AK and other inherent indications of the individual chart.> > I hope I have understood Guruji's lessons properly.> > With best wishes,> > Shailesh> > ----- Original Message ----- > "j.k. dasgupta" <dga@b...>> To: <sjvc>> Friday, May 03, 2002 12:01 PM> Re: Re[4]: [sjvc] KSY> > > > dear doc,> > > > i think it is not correct.> > > > when KSY matures, the suffering makes the person materialistic but when KAY> > matures, the person becomes more spiritual.> > > > but that also most probably depends on which planet is stronger. i have KAY> > and it seems it has matured about 2-3 years ago. my rahu is exaulted in 4H.> > i feel that i have become more matured, more materialistic and practical now> > than before.> > > > regards> > > > dasgupta> > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to the > > > Sponsor > > > > > > Terms of Service.------------------------ Sponsor ---------------------~-->Buy Stock for $4and no minimums.FREE Money 2002.http://us.click./orkH0C/n97DAA/Ey.GAA/XUWolB/TM---~-> Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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