Guest guest Posted May 2, 2002 Report Share Posted May 2, 2002 It means Kala Sarpa Yoga. Shailesh - ÷ÁÌÅÒÉÑ ìÉ×ÉÎÁ sjvc Thursday, May 02, 2002 9:58 PM [sjvc] KSY Dear list members,I am sorry for a silly question: which yoga is abbreviated as KSY ?Valerie------------------------ Sponsor ---------------------~-->Buy Stock for $4and no minimums.FREE Money 2002.http://us.click./orkH0C/n97DAA/Ey.GAA/XUWolB/TM---~->Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2002 Report Share Posted May 2, 2002 Dear friend, KSY-KAL SARPA YOGA-ALL PLANETS BETWEEN KETU AND RAHU KAY-KAL AMRIT YOGA-ALL PLANETS BETWEEN RAHU AND KETU These yogas are broken if there any planet with any of the Nodes.By praying to the concerned planet/its deity/giving charity of the concerned planets items,the yoga is broken.If there is no planet with the nodes one has to wait for the natural age of 42 years for Rahu and 45 years for Ketu to reduce the malefic effect of the above Yogas.Though I understand by Praying or getting the Puja done at Kalahsti temple in Maharstra or Kalahastheeswarar Temple at kumbakonam helps. With regards, Jagmeet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2002 Report Share Posted May 2, 2002 Dear Friends, I thought all planets between Rahu and Ketu was KSY, and all planets between Ketu and Rahu was KAY. Correct me if I am wrong. Sarbani "÷ÁÌÅÒÉÑ ìÉ×ÉÎÁ" wrote: > Dear Jagmeet, > > > KSY-KAL SARPA YOGA-ALL PLANETS BETWEEN KETU AND RAHU > > > KAY-KAL AMRIT YOGA-ALL PLANETS BETWEEN RAHU AND KETU > > Thank you very much for explanations. The only thing which I don't understand > is how do you define the difference between those two yogas: by the direction > of nodes motion ? > > Valerie > > > > > Your use of is subject to Attachment: vcard [not shown] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2002 Report Share Posted May 3, 2002 Dear Sarbani & list, Your understanding is correct - the planet at the starting point, or the head of the chain of planets is the deterring factor. Hope the above helps, Shailesh - "Sarbani Sarkar" <sarbani (AT) vsnl (DOT) com> <sjvc> Friday, May 03, 2002 11:13 AM Re: [sjvc] KSY > Dear Friends,> > I thought all planets between Rahu and Ketu was KSY, and all planets between Ketu> and Rahu was KAY. Correct me if I am wrong.> > Sarbani> > "÷ÁÌÅÒÉÑ ìÉ×ÉÎÁ" wrote:> > > Dear Jagmeet,> >> > > KSY-KAL SARPA YOGA-ALL PLANETS BETWEEN KETU AND RAHU> >> > > KAY-KAL AMRIT YOGA-ALL PLANETS BETWEEN RAHU AND KETU> >> > Thank you very much for explanations. The only thing which I don't understand> > is how do you define the difference between those two yogas: by the direction> > of nodes motion ?> >> > Valerie> >> >> >> >> > Your use of is subject to > > ------------------------ Sponsor ---------------------~-->> Buy Stock for $4> and no minimums.> FREE Money 2002.> http://us.click./orkH0C/n97DAA/Ey.GAA/XUWolB/TM> ---~->> > > > Your use of is subject to > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2002 Report Share Posted May 3, 2002 Dear Sarbani & list, Sorry for the typo - it is "DETERMINING" not << deterring >>. Best wishes, Shailesh - Shailesh sjvc Friday, May 03, 2002 12:53 PM Re: [sjvc] KSY Dear Sarbani & list, Your understanding is correct - the planet at the starting point, or the head of the chain of planets is the deterring factor. Hope the above helps, Shailesh - "Sarbani Sarkar" <sarbani (AT) vsnl (DOT) com> <sjvc> Friday, May 03, 2002 11:13 AM Re: [sjvc] KSY > Dear Friends,> > I thought all planets between Rahu and Ketu was KSY, and all planets between Ketu> and Rahu was KAY. Correct me if I am wrong.> > Sarbani> > "÷ÁÌÅÒÉÑ ìÉ×ÉÎÁ" wrote:> > > Dear Jagmeet,> >> > > KSY-KAL SARPA YOGA-ALL PLANETS BETWEEN KETU AND RAHU> >> > > KAY-KAL AMRIT YOGA-ALL PLANETS BETWEEN RAHU AND KETU> >> > Thank you very much for explanations. The only thing which I don't understand> > is how do you define the difference between those two yogas: by the direction> > of nodes motion ?> >> > Valerie> >> >> >> >> > Your use of is subject to > > ------------------------ Sponsor ---------------------~-->> Buy Stock for $4> and no minimums.> FREE Money 2002.> http://us.click./orkH0C/n97DAA/Ey.GAA/XUWolB/TM> ---~->> > > > Your use of is subject to > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2002 Report Share Posted May 3, 2002 being a newcomer its very hesitant to put views amidst genius. hope foll. may help some of u reg. KSY which i read somewhere. these are the different types of KSY according to the positions of Rahu-Ketu. 1. Anant Yog - Rahu in lagna, Ketu in 7H. other planets in 8.9.10.11,12. 2. Kulik Yog - Rahu in 2H, Ketu in 8, others in 9,10,11,12,1. Similarly their are others like vasuki, shankhpal, padam, mahapadam, takshak, karkotak, shankh naad, patak, vishakt, sheshnag. please forgive if something is wrong and unwanted. Health - your guide to health and wellness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2002 Report Share Posted May 3, 2002 dear nisha, you must not feel hesitant. we are all learning. yes you are very right. as i know there are more than 200 such combinations. dasgupta - Nisha M. sjvc Friday, May 03, 2002 2:15 PM Re: [sjvc] KSY resp. members, being a newcomer its very hesitant to put views amidst genius. hope foll. may help some of u reg. KSY which i read somewhere. these are the different types of KSY according to the positions of Rahu-Ketu. 1. Anant Yog - Rahu in lagna, Ketu in 7H. other planets in 8.9.10.11,12. 2. Kulik Yog - Rahu in 2H, Ketu in 8, others in 9,10,11,12,1. Similarly their are others like vasuki, shankhpal, padam, mahapadam, takshak, karkotak, shankh naad, patak, vishakt, sheshnag. please forgive if something is wrong and unwanted. Health - your guide to health and wellness Your use of is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2002 Report Share Posted May 3, 2002 Shri Ganeshaya Namah This reminds me very much of Guruji's Saprpadeva mantra given in his site. I am a new comer and so it is really nice nay, very exciting I should say, to see the connection between the "ashtadikpalakas" and KSY. Could any of the learned Gurujis or other members elaborate more on these combinations>"Nisha M." >sjvc >sjvc >Re: [sjvc] KSY >Fri, 3 May 2002 01:45:35 -0700 (PDT) > > > resp. members, >being a newcomer its very hesitant to put views amidst genius. hope foll. may help some of u reg. KSY which i read somewhere. these are the different types of KSY according to the positions of Rahu-Ketu. >1. Anant Yog - Rahu in lagna, Ketu in 7H. other planets in 8.9.10.11,12. >2. Kulik Yog - Rahu in 2H, Ketu in 8, others in 9,10,11,12,1. >Similarly their are others like vasuki, shankhpal, padam, mahapadam, takshak, karkotak, shankh naad, patak, vishakt, sheshnag. >please forgive if something is wrong and unwanted. > > > > > > > Health - your guide to health and wellness MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: Click Here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2002 Report Share Posted May 4, 2002 Dasguptaji, Check VRIA. It says that when there are 3 malefics in kendra it is sarpa yoga and when all planets are between the nodes it is KSY. Sarpa yoga is caused by rahu, which "spreads poison" and may destroy the house it is in, or its lord or its dispositer. Sarpa yoga can be superior or inferior, according to Rahu's relation to the other planets, thereby modifying or increasing the intensity accordingly. A benefic in the kendra breaks the Sarpa yoga. Sarbani "j.k. dasgupta" wrote: > dear visti, > > namaste and thanks. you wrote, "3 malefics in Kendra give Sarpa Yoga..", is > it another kind of KSY/KAY? in my chart KAY is very prominent. and > definitely effect has not been slight. > > regards > > dasgupta > > - > "Visti Larsen" <vlarsen > <sjvc> > Saturday, May 04, 2002 2:21 PM > Re: Re[4]: [sjvc] KSY > > > Vyam Vysadevaya Namah > > -------------------------- > > Dear Dasgupta, > > 3 malefics in Kendra give Sarpa Yoga. If there are benefics in Kendra they > > break this.. also check Paka Lagna and its lord, to see the persons > actions > > and the results of the same respectively. > > > > Sun isn't a malefic for this yoga. > > > > You may not have 3 malefics in Kendra, but yet the slight effects of Sarpa > > yoga will be there. > > > > Exalted Rahu will however mitigate the evil, and focus more on > intellectual > > persuits. > > > > Best wishes, Visti. > > > > - > > "j.k. dasgupta" <dga > > <sjvc> > > Friday, May 03, 2002 8:31 AM > > Re: Re[4]: [sjvc] KSY > > > > > > > dear doc, > > > > > > i think it is not correct. > > > > > > when KSY matures, the suffering makes the person materialistic but when > > KAY > > > matures, the person becomes more spiritual. > > > > > > but that also most probably depends on which planet is stronger. i have > > KAY > > > and it seems it has matured about 2-3 years ago. my rahu is exaulted in > > 4H. > > > i feel that i have become more matured, more materialistic and practical > > now > > > than before. > > > > > > regards > > > > > > dasgupta > > > > > > > > > - > > > "Dr.D.Banerjee" <drdilip > > > <sjvc> > > > Friday, May 03, 2002 8:22 PM > > > Re: Re[4]: [sjvc] KSY > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna > > > > ----------------------------- > > > > Dear Valerie > > > > Namaste > > > > > > > > Both kalasarpa yoga (KSY) and Kala amrita Yoga ( KAY) brings in > > > tremendous > > > > sufferings in the life of a person who have anyone of these yogas in > his > > > > chart. The essential difference is in the outcome of these sufferings. > > In > > > > KSY, the sufferings make a person a devil one and criminal tendencies > > in > > > > him crop up. His nature becomes destructive. On the other hand , in > KAY > > > the > > > > sufferings make him a humble being , and transform him into a > spiritual > > > and > > > > saintly > > > > person. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Dr. Banerjee > > > > ---- Original Message ----- > > > > "÷ÁÌÅÒÉÑ ìÉ×ÉÎÁ" <livina > > > > <sjvc> > > > > Thursday, May 02, 2002 11:09 AM > > > > Re[4]: [sjvc] KSY > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dr.D.Banerjee > > > > > > > > > > > Put your finger on Ketu, then move it zodiacally upto Rahu in the > > rasi > > > > chart; > > > > > if all the planets are situated between Ketu and Rahu , then > Kalasarpa > > > > yoga is > > > > > formed. > > > > > > > > > > > Put your finger on Rahu, then move it zodiacally upto Ketu in the > > rasi > > > > chart; > > > > > if all the planets are situated between Rahu and ketu, then Kala > > amrita > > > > yoga is > > > > > formed. > > > > > > > > > > Now I understand how to recognize them. But what is the essential > > > > difference > > > > > between these two yogas ? > > > > > > > > > > Valerie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to Attachment: vcard [not shown] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2002 Report Share Posted May 4, 2002 thanks sarbaniji. in another book i read (quite some time back) that sarpa yoga or ankshik (part) sarpa yoga can be formed due to some other combinations also .. but unfortunately i do not have any note on that. i shall try to find out the book. regards dasgupta - Sarbani Sarkar sjvc Saturday, May 04, 2002 5:21 PM Re: [sjvc] KSY Dasguptaji,Check VRIA. It says that when there are 3 malefics in kendra it is sarpa yogaand when all planets are between the nodes it is KSY. Sarpa yoga is caused byrahu, which "spreads poison" and may destroy the house it is in, or its lord orits dispositer. Sarpa yoga can be superior or inferior, according to Rahu'srelation to the other planets, thereby modifying or increasing the intensityaccordingly. A benefic in the kendra breaks the Sarpa yoga.Sarbani"j.k. dasgupta" wrote:> dear visti,>> namaste and thanks. you wrote, "3 malefics in Kendra give Sarpa Yoga..", is> it another kind of KSY/KAY? in my chart KAY is very prominent. and> definitely effect has not been slight.>> regards>> dasgupta>> -> "Visti Larsen" <vlarsen (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>> <sjvc>> Saturday, May 04, 2002 2:21 PM> Re: Re[4]: [sjvc] KSY>> > Vyam Vysadevaya Namah> > --------------------------> > Dear Dasgupta,> > 3 malefics in Kendra give Sarpa Yoga. If there are benefics in Kendra they> > break this.. also check Paka Lagna and its lord, to see the persons> actions> > and the results of the same respectively.> >> > Sun isn't a malefic for this yoga.> >> > You may not have 3 malefics in Kendra, but yet the slight effects of Sarpa> > yoga will be there.> >> > Exalted Rahu will however mitigate the evil, and focus more on> intellectual> > persuits.> >> > Best wishes, Visti.> >> > -> > "j.k. dasgupta" <dga (AT) bom5 (DOT) vsnl.net.in>> > <sjvc>> > Friday, May 03, 2002 8:31 AM> > Re: Re[4]: [sjvc] KSY> >> >> > > dear doc,> > >> > > i think it is not correct.> > >> > > when KSY matures, the suffering makes the person materialistic but when> > KAY> > > matures, the person becomes more spiritual.> > >> > > but that also most probably depends on which planet is stronger. i have> > KAY> > > and it seems it has matured about 2-3 years ago. my rahu is exaulted in> > 4H.> > > i feel that i have become more matured, more materialistic and practical> > now> > > than before.> > >> > > regards> > >> > > dasgupta> > >> > >> > > -> > > "Dr.D.Banerjee" <drdilip (AT) sancharnet (DOT) in>> > > <sjvc>> > > Friday, May 03, 2002 8:22 PM> > > Re: Re[4]: [sjvc] KSY> > >> > >> > > > Hare Rama Krishna> > > > -----------------------------> > > > Dear Valerie> > > > Namaste> > > >> > > > Both kalasarpa yoga (KSY) and Kala amrita Yoga ( KAY) brings in> > > tremendous> > > > sufferings in the life of a person who have anyone of these yogas in> his> > > > chart. The essential difference is in the outcome of these sufferings.> > In> > > > KSY, the sufferings make a person a devil one and criminal tendencies> > in> > > > him crop up. His nature becomes destructive. On the other hand , in> KAY> > > the> > > > sufferings make him a humble being , and transform him into a> spiritual> > > and> > > > saintly> > > > person.> > > >> > > > Regards> > > > Dr. Banerjee> > > > ---- Original Message -----> > > > "÷ÁÌÅÒÉÑ ìÉ×ÉÎÁ" <livina (AT) mail (DOT) ru>> > > > <sjvc>> > > > Thursday, May 02, 2002 11:09 AM> > > > Re[4]: [sjvc] KSY> > > >> > > >> > > > > Dear Dr.D.Banerjee> > > > >> > > > > > Put your finger on Ketu, then move it zodiacally upto Rahu in the> > rasi> > > > chart;> > > > > if all the planets are situated between Ketu and Rahu , then> Kalasarpa> > > > yoga is> > > > > formed.> > > > >> > > > > > Put your finger on Rahu, then move it zodiacally upto Ketu in the> > rasi> > > > chart;> > > > > if all the planets are situated between Rahu and ketu, then Kala> > amrita> > > > yoga is> > > > > formed.> > > > >> > > > > Now I understand how to recognize them. But what is the essential> > > > difference> > > > > between these two yogas ?> > > > >> > > > > Valerie> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Your use of is subject to> > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Your use of is subject to> > > > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Your use of is subject to> > > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> > Your use of is subject to > >> >> >>>>>> Your use of is subject to Your use of is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2002 Report Share Posted May 5, 2002 Dasguptaji, Sarpa yoga is apparently a Nabhasa yoga, in the sub category of Dala yoga. There are two kinds of Dala yogas: auspicious and inauspicious. When 3 benefics occupy the kendras it forms the auspicious Mala Yoga and when 3 malefics occupy the kendras it forms the inauspicious Sarpa yoga. So clearly this is something different from KSY, except that Rahu plays a pivotal role in both. B. V. Raman, quoting Varahamihira, says that Nabhasa yogas can be felt throughout one's life. Now if we connect this with Rahu, then Sarpa yoga must be a painful condition 'binding' the native in its grip during its entire life span because of karmic reasons? Or intense bad karma of the past life engulfs one to a cursed future life as symbolized by Sarpa Yoga? Teachers, please guide. Sarbani "j.k. dasgupta" wrote: > Part 1.1 Type: Plain Text (text/plain) > Encoding: quoted-printable Attachment: vcard [not shown] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2002 Report Share Posted May 5, 2002 dear sarbaniji, thanks. i really did not know that sarpa yoga is different from KSY. i read about ankshik (part) KSY in one book on certain combinations. i am trying to find the book at my house. more the discussions and more new things come up. regards, dasgupta - Sarbani Sarkar sjvc Sunday, May 05, 2002 12:37 PM Re: [sjvc] KSY Dasguptaji,Sarpa yoga is apparently a Nabhasa yoga, in the sub category of Dalayoga. There are two kinds of Dala yogas: auspicious and inauspicious.When 3 benefics occupy the kendras it forms the auspicious Mala Yoga andwhen 3 malefics occupy the kendras it forms the inauspicious Sarpa yoga.So clearly this is something different from KSY, except that Rahu playsa pivotal role in both. B. V. Raman, quoting Varahamihira, says thatNabhasa yogas can be felt throughout one's life. Now if we connect thiswith Rahu, then Sarpa yoga must be a painful condition 'binding' thenative in its grip during its entire life span because of karmicreasons? Or intense bad karma of the past life engulfs one to a cursedfuture life as symbolized by Sarpa Yoga? Teachers, please guide.Sarbani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2002 Report Share Posted May 5, 2002 Dear Dasguptaji, Well, I suppose they are similar in the sense that both refer to the 'evil' effects of rahu, which is serpentine, life long and karmic. They both make the native suffer. Astrological books usually don't go beyond listing yogas. I wonder if there are any which describe them at length, or maybe they have been discussed on this and other lists or through private teachings. Let's see if anyone enlightens us on this. Sarbani "j.k. dasgupta" wrote: > Part 1.1 Type: Plain Text (text/plain) > Encoding: quoted-printable Attachment: vcard [not shown] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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