Guest guest Posted April 29, 2002 Report Share Posted April 29, 2002 Respected Sanjayji, Pranam and thank you for the guidance. Can we also see in which ways the native will obstruct himself and in which areas? In my own case also-AK jupiter is 11L & 2L in 9H badhaka shtana in Libra. Of course Jup is in enemy house and old (29d 45m), but he is in Gemini with mars in navamsa. How to interpret this? Many times my fortune has been blocked due to straighforwardness and self imposed honesty. Are these the areas I have to get teaching? My Jup mahadasa has made me aware of all these shortcomings of mine. I am very much confused here. Humble regards, dasgupta - Sanjay Rath sjvc Saturday, April 27, 2002 11:39 PM Re: [sjvc] More Query concerning Badhakesh Om Gurave Namah ------------------------ Dear JK If the AK is in badhalksthana, the native is like Bhasmasura i.e. he is his own obstacle!! Best Regards, Sanjay Rath Web: http://sanjayrath.tripod.com - "j.k. dasgupta" <dga (AT) bom5 (DOT) vsnl.net.in> To: <sjvc> Saturday, April 27, 2002 7:35 PM Re: [sjvc] More Query concerning Badhakesh dear ashwin, on kendradhipati dosa, i am giving below extract from one old mail of guru gauranga dasji - which is self explanatory, quote========= "let's first understand, what the term "Kendradhipati Dosha" means. Kendradhipati is a planet which is the lors of only Kendras and no Trikonas. This may happen only to two planets, if you look, to Jupiter and Mercury, because the resto of the planets do not own two sings which are in Kendras from each other. Dosha means a fault. This is to indicate that if a planets is only tha lord of two kendras, and is not connected with the trikonas, then it will be limited in giving its results. Now what is the meaning of this Dosha? For this we should undestnand Parashara's chapter on the functionality of the planets. He says that the Kendras and the trikonas are the benefic houses, and he especially emphasizes that any connection between a Kendra and a Trikona is a Raja-yoga combination, and the planet/planets forming it becomes Yoga Karaka. This is because the Kendras signify Vishnu, the maintainer, and the Trikonas signify Lakshmiji, the Goddess of Fortune. Thus the Kendras indicate things that we should maintain (1st-body, 4th-home, 7th-wife, 10th-work). On the other hand, the Trikonas indicate fortune (5th house - Purva Punya, i.e. pious activities from past life, 9th house - dharma, i.e. religiousness in this life). So if there's a connection between Kendras and Trikonas through their lords being conjunct, in Parivartana or at least in aspect, the Yoga of Lakshmi and Vishnu is created, which brings success. However, if there is only the Kendras, with no contact from the Trikonas, then there will be no fortune, opportunities and there will be nothing to maintain. This is the case with Kendradhipaqti Dosha. The results of the planet are limited because of no yoga with the Trikonas. There are some factors alleviating the Kendradhipati Dosha. If one of the houses is the 1st, then the Dosha is broken, as 1st house is both a Kendra and a Trikona. So it actually happens if the planet is lord of 4th and 7th or 7th and 10th houses. But still if this planet is in a Trikona itself, then the Dosha is alleviated. The dosha is also somewhat decreased if the planet is aspected or disposited by a Trikona lord. Otherwise in these charts the general Upaya would be to strengthen the 9th house as this is the house of fortune also. Of course for divisional charts one has to make separate consideration based on placements." ==========unquote so with kendradhpati dosha the planet do not become malefic. i think, the only implication is that the planet might not fulfill its promise. when it becomes badhakesh - it acts just as badhakesh. now, karakatwa of planets in badhakasthana will show the persons who will creat obstruction and the placement of badhaka lord will show the area obstructed - as i know. but i am not sure if AK is in badhakasthana, what will be the effect. Gurus and learned list members may kindly correct me and through more light. dasgupta ----- Original Message ----- Ashwin Hirani sjvc Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2002 12:22 AM [sjvc] More Query concerning Badhakesh Dear Mr. Dasgupta, I would just like to add in another query to the below query of Shashank. If you remember in the second meeting at Mumbai we had also vaguely touched about Kendradhipati Dosha (KDH). Now, as far as Virgo Lagna goes Jupiter is Badhakesh, if it is in 7th also it gives rise to KDH( being lord of 4th and 7th - 2 kendras ). There was a discussion earlier on KDH and what i got from it is that if the lord of a Trikona(1,5,9) joins the planet involved in the KDH it neutralizes its effect ( If i am not wrong. GURUS/SENIOR MEMBERS KINDLY CORRECT ME ). Now, my question is Jupiter a Badhakesh, is the lord of 4th in the 7th ; so, it will become strong as it is the kendra lord in kendra rather double powerful. Hence, will it act as a benefic or as a Malefic as it also suffers from KDH. Again, if i am not wrong Jupiter should be functional benefic( GURUS/SENIOR MEMBERS KINDLY CORRECT ME ) being Lord of mooltrikona-Saggitarius in Kendra. Will it be able to neutralize the effect of KDH being a Func. Benefic or being Badhakesh lord in the Badhak-sthan will hamper all the more. Another point is that a malefic planet in a bad house is considered good ( Ex. Rahu in the 6th ). So, if we consider 7th lord badhakesh in 7th badhak-sthan will it be benefical instead of being harmful considering that 7th is also Marak-Sthana. Now, just to add if a kendra lord joins him like Venus in the case of Virgo Lagna with whom Jupiter is enemical, what will be the ultimate effect. It will neutralize the effect being exalted & lord of Kendra but being enemical to Jupiter how helpful will it be regarding reducing the KDH and what happens to badhakesh effects of Jupiter. Or will it increase the bad-effect ( Considering Jupiter will give bad effects ) but then what happens to breaking the KDH by a Trikona Lord. With the little Knowledge that i have Jupiter and Venus together in the 7th gives a good marraige/married life to the person ( GURUS/SENIOR MEMBERS KINDLY CORRECT ME ). Now, how do we explain this in the above context . I hope i am not trying to complicate the matter. But then i have been thinking over it again and again and is not going out of my mind. GURU's / LIST MEMBER's Kindly throw light on the above. With Regards, Ashwin Shashank Gupta <shashankmail (AT) softhome (DOT) net> wrote: Dear Dasgupta, I need some clarification on this issue. What will be the implications if for Virgo lagna Jupiter is badhkesh and placed in 7th house (badhaka house). Pls note that Jupiter is in his own house Pisces and forming Mahapurusha Yoga. ~Jaiho Games - play chess, backgammon, pool and more Your use of is subject to the Your use of is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2002 Report Share Posted April 29, 2002 Om Gurave Namah ------------------------ Dear JK Thats the point. My father also has this and he can be brutally truthful at times and this only makes more enemies in business. It does not help him. Since it the AK he will be so and we cannot expect any changes as this is a fixed position and the Atma knows no joy or sorrow. Matters pertaining to the houses owned by the AK will suffer as a consequence to the limited light they call truth as this is really the perceived truth. For example, they can be prophetic and tend to give pre warnings about impending problems that often go unheeded. In the ninth they tend to become very bossy resulting in insubordination. There is more to this.. Best Regards, Sanjay Rath Web: http://sanjayrath.tripod.com - "j.k. dasgupta" <dga <sjvc> Monday, April 29, 2002 1:25 PM Re: [sjvc] Badhakesh - Sanjayji Respected Sanjayji, Pranam and thank you for the guidance. Can we also see in which ways the native will obstruct himself and in which areas? In my own case also-AK jupiter is 11L & 2L in 9H badhaka shtana in Libra. Of course Jup is in enemy house and old (29d 45m), but he is in Gemini with mars in navamsa. How to interpret this? Many times my fortune has been blocked due to straighforwardness and self imposed honesty. Are these the areas I have to get teaching? My Jup mahadasa has made me aware of all these shortcomings of mine. I am very much confused here. Humble regards, dasgupta - Sanjay Rath sjvc Saturday, April 27, 2002 11:39 PM Re: [sjvc] More Query concerning Badhakesh Om Gurave Namah ------------------------ Dear JK If the AK is in badhalksthana, the native is like Bhasmasura i.e. he is his own obstacle!! Best Regards, Sanjay Rath Web: http://sanjayrath.tripod.com - "j.k. dasgupta" <dga <sjvc> Saturday, April 27, 2002 7:35 PM Re: [sjvc] More Query concerning Badhakesh dear ashwin, on kendradhipati dosa, i am giving below extract from one old mail of guru gauranga dasji - which is self explanatory, quote========= "let's first understand, what the term "Kendradhipati Dosha" means. Kendradhipati is a planet which is the lors of only Kendras and no Trikonas. This may happen only to two planets, if you look, to Jupiter and Mercury, because the resto of the planets do not own two sings which are in Kendras from each other. Dosha means a fault. This is to indicate that if a planets is only tha lord of two kendras, and is not connected with the trikonas, then it will be limited in giving its results. Now what is the meaning of this Dosha? For this we should undestnand Parashara's chapter on the functionality of the planets. He says that the Kendras and the trikonas are the benefic houses, and he especially emphasizes that any connection between a Kendra and a Trikona is a Raja-yoga combination, and the planet/planets forming it becomes Yoga Karaka. This is because the Kendras signify Vishnu, the maintainer, and the Trikonas signify Lakshmiji, the Goddess of Fortune. Thus the Kendras indicate things that we should maintain (1st-body, 4th-home, 7th-wife, 10th-work). On the other hand, the Trikonas indicate fortune (5th house - Purva Punya, i.e. pious activities from past life, 9th house - dharma, i.e. religiousness in this life). So if there's a connection between Kendras and Trikonas through their lords being conjunct, in Parivartana or at least in aspect, the Yoga of Lakshmi and Vishnu is created, which brings success. However, if there is only the Kendras, with no contact from the Trikonas, then there will be no fortune, opportunities and there will be nothing to maintain. This is the case with Kendradhipaqti Dosha. The results of the planet are limited because of no yoga with the Trikonas. There are some factors alleviating the Kendradhipati Dosha. If one of the houses is the 1st, then the Dosha is broken, as 1st house is both a Kendra and a Trikona. So it actually happens if the planet is lord of 4th and 7th or 7th and 10th houses. But still if this planet is in a Trikona itself, then the Dosha is alleviated. The dosha is also somewhat decreased if the planet is aspected or disposited by a Trikona lord. Otherwise in these charts the general Upaya would be to strengthen the 9th house as this is the house of fortune also. Of course for divisional charts one has to make separate consideration based on placements." ==========unquote so with kendradhpati dosha the planet do not become malefic. i think, the only implication is that the planet might not fulfill its promise. when it becomes badhakesh - it acts just as badhakesh. now, karakatwa of planets in badhakasthana will show the persons who will creat obstruction and the placement of badhaka lord will show the area obstructed - as i know. but i am not sure if AK is in badhakasthana, what will be the effect. Gurus and learned list members may kindly correct me and through more light. dasgupta - Ashwin Hirani sjvc Saturday, April 27, 2002 12:22 AM [sjvc] More Query concerning Badhakesh Dear Mr. Dasgupta, I would just like to add in another query to the below query of Shashank. If you remember in the second meeting at Mumbai we had also vaguely touched about Kendradhipati Dosha (KDH). Now, as far as Virgo Lagna goes Jupiter is Badhakesh, if it is in 7th also it gives rise to KDH( being lord of 4th and 7th - 2 kendras ). There was a discussion earlier on KDH and what i got from it is that if the lord of a Trikona(1,5,9) joins the planet involved in the KDH it neutralizes its effect ( If i am not wrong. GURUS/SENIOR MEMBERS KINDLY CORRECT ME ). Now, my question is Jupiter a Badhakesh, is the lord of 4th in the 7th ; so, it will become strong as it is the kendra lord in kendra rather double powerful. Hence, will it act as a benefic or as a Malefic as it also suffers from KDH. Again, if i am not wrong Jupiter should be functional benefic( GURUS/SENIOR MEMBERS KINDLY CORRECT ME ) being Lord of mooltrikona-Saggitarius in Kendra. Will it be able to neutralize the effect of KDH being a Func. Benefic or being Badhakesh lord in the Badhak-sthan will hamper all the more. Another point is that a malefic planet in a bad house is considered good ( Ex. Rahu in the 6th ). So, if we consider 7th lord badhakesh in 7th badhak-sthan will it be benefical instead of being harmful considering that 7th is also Marak-Sthana. Now, just to add if a kendra lord joins him like Venus in the case of Virgo Lagna with whom Jupiter is enemical, what will be the ultimate effect. It will neutralize the effect being exalted & lord of Kendra but being enemical to Jupiter how helpful will it be regarding reducing the KDH and what happens to badhakesh effects of Jupiter. Or will it increase the bad-effect ( Considering Jupiter will give bad effects ) but then what happens to breaking the KDH by a Trikona Lord. With the little Knowledge that i have Jupiter and Venus together in the 7th gives a good marraige/married life to the person ( GURUS/SENIOR MEMBERS KINDLY CORRECT ME ). Now, how do we explain this in the above context . I hope i am not trying to complicate the matter. But then i have been thinking over it again and again and is not going out of my mind. GURU's / LIST MEMBER's Kindly throw light on the above. With Regards, Ashwin Shashank Gupta <shashankmail wrote: Dear Dasgupta, I need some clarification on this issue. What will be the implications if for Virgo lagna Jupiter is badhkesh and placed in 7th house (badhaka house). Pls note that Jupiter is in his own house Pisces and forming Mahapurusha Yoga. ~Jaiho Games - play chess, backgammon, pool and more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2002 Report Share Posted April 29, 2002 Respected Sanjayji, Now the effect of AK in 9th badhaka sthana is much clear-at least as far my own chart is concerned. Yes, definitely my 2nd & 11th house matters have suffered in past due to my tactless thruthfullness. Now I am trying to change this at least outwardly. But I could not understand "....For example, they can be prophetic and tend to give pre warnings about impending problems that often go unheeded....". Will you kindly elaborate it more? Humble regards dasgupta - Sanjay Rath sjvc Monday, April 29, 2002 11:27 PM Re: [sjvc] Badhakesh - Sanjayji Om Gurave Namah ------------------------ Dear JK Thats the point. My father also has this and he can be brutally truthful at times and this only makes more enemies in business. It does not help him. Since it the AK he will be so and we cannot expect any changes as this is a fixed position and the Atma knows no joy or sorrow. Matters pertaining to the houses owned by the AK will suffer as a consequence to the limited light they call truth as this is really the perceived truth. For example, they can be prophetic and tend to give pre warnings about impending problems that often go unheeded. In the ninth they tend to become very bossy resulting in insubordination. There is more to this.. Best Regards, Sanjay Rath Web: http://sanjayrath.tripod.com - "j.k. dasgupta" <dga (AT) bom5 (DOT) vsnl.net.in> To: <sjvc> Monday, April 29, 2002 1:25 PM Re: [sjvc] Badhakesh - Sanjayji Respected Sanjayji, Pranam and thank you for the guidance. Can we also see in which ways the native will obstruct himself and in which areas? In my own case also-AK jupiter is 11L & 2L in 9H badhaka shtana in Libra. Of course Jup is in enemy house and old (29d 45m), but he is in Gemini with mars in navamsa. How to interpret this? Many times my fortune has been blocked due to straighforwardness and self imposed honesty. Are these the areas I have to get teaching? My Jup mahadasa has made me aware of all these shortcomings of mine. I am very much confused here. Humble regards, dasgupta - Sanjay Rath sjvc Saturday, April 27, 2002 11:39 PM Re: [sjvc] More Query concerning Badhakesh Om Gurave Namah ------------------------ Dear JK If the AK is in badhalksthana, the native is like Bhasmasura i.e. he is his own obstacle!! Best Regards, Sanjay Rath Web: http://sanjayrath.tripod.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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