Guest guest Posted April 25, 2002 Report Share Posted April 25, 2002 I read in one article regarding aspect of Sani that "When sani resides in 12th, 1st and 2nd house it is 7 1/2 Sani, when in the fourth house its Arthastama Sani, When in the 8th house it is Asthama Sani. So I wish to know whether these houses are calculated from Lagna or Moon rasi? and What is the effect of 7 1/2 Sani and Khandaka Sani? I expect reply from you, Suresh Download Score Tracker for live cricket scores on your desktop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2002 Report Share Posted April 25, 2002 Dear Suresh, When Shani is transitting the 12th, 1st and 2nd house it is called Sade Sati or 7.5 years that Shani takes to transit these house. Now Check the AV strength of Shani. If it has less than 3 bindus and if any planet is giving 0 points in Sarvashatakavarga table for the 12th house then the effect of shani will be felt very severely. Lower the bindu of shani the higher the effect will be. The reason for this is that that for eg. if Shani has 1 bindu in AV, it means that only 1 planet or lagna is helping it so the other planets are not favouring shani (or opposing its natural tendencies to delay or depart a person) hence in the significance of that planet shani cant cause havoc. If shani has 3 bindus or greater the effect will be felt but it will be way better that shani having 1 bindu. Check the strenght of shani for its results. As you know that the natural tendency of Shani is to delay matters, so apply yourself for the other houses. In the 8th house it is in the house of longetivity for lagna, so depending on the strength of Shani, lagna etc it may cause problems. 4th house is that of Sukha sthan and Shani in 4th can delay or deny or depart the signifhcance of 4th house etc etc.... All results are to be studied from Moon, Sun and Lagna, (Mind, Spirit and Physical Body). Hope that helps, Cheers !!! Ash sjvc, suresh sivan <sureshshiv1960> wrote: > > Pranam Gurudev, > I read in one article regarding aspect of Sani that > "When sani resides in 12th, 1st and 2nd house it is 7 1/2 Sani, when in the fourth house its Arthastama Sani, When in the 8th house it is Asthama Sani. So I wish to know whether these houses are calculated from Lagna or Moon rasi? and What is the effect of 7 1/2 Sani and Khandaka Sani? > I expect reply from you, > Suresh > > > > Download Score Tracker for live cricket scores on your desktop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2002 Report Share Posted April 26, 2002 Vyam Vysadevaya Namah --------------------------- Dear Ash, Brilliant! Best wishes, Visti. - ashsam73 sjvc Thursday, April 25, 2002 10:49 PM [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani Dear Suresh,When Shani is transitting the 12th, 1st and 2nd house it is called Sade Sati or 7.5 years that Shani takes to transit these house.Now Check the AV strength of Shani. If it has less than 3 bindus and if any planet is giving 0 points in Sarvashatakavarga table for the 12th house then the effect of shani will be felt very severely. Lower the bindu of shani the higher the effect will be. The reason for this is that that for eg. if Shani has 1 bindu in AV, it means that only 1 planet or lagna is helping it so the other planets are not favouring shani (or opposing its natural tendencies to delay or depart a person) hence in the significance of that planet shani cant cause havoc. If shani has 3 bindus or greater the effect will be felt but it will be way better that shani having 1 bindu.Check the strenght of shani for its results. As you know that the natural tendency of Shani is to delay matters, so apply yourself for the other houses. In the 8th house it is in the house of longetivity for lagna, so depending on the strength of Shani, lagna etc it may cause problems. 4th house is that of Sukha sthan and Shani in 4th can delay or deny or depart the signifhcance of 4th house etc etc....All results are to be studied from Moon, Sun and Lagna, (Mind, Spirit and Physical Body).Hope that helps,Cheers !!!Ashsjvc, suresh sivan <sureshshiv1960> wrote:> > Pranam Gurudev,> I read in one article regarding aspect of Sani that> "When sani resides in 12th, 1st and 2nd house it is 7 1/2 Sani, when in the fourth house its Arthastama Sani, When in the 8th house it is Asthama Sani. So I wish to know whether these houses are calculated from Lagna or Moon rasi? and What is the effect of 7 1/2 Sani and Khandaka Sani?> I expect reply from you,> Suresh> > > > Download Score Tracker for live cricket scores on your desktop Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2002 Report Share Posted April 26, 2002 Thank you so much for throwing light on my query about 7 1/2 Sani Looking forward to get more information on other apsects, I will come to you Thans once again Suresh Download Score Tracker for live cricket scores on your desktop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2002 Report Share Posted April 26, 2002 Whether thsese houses are to be counted from Lagna or Moon? Would you please clarify? Thanks, Suresh Download Score Tracker for live cricket scores on your desktop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2002 Report Share Posted April 26, 2002 Dear Suresh, What is Lagna and Moon and Sun and why have the Maharishis said to look for results from ALL of them ? Each one gives different prespective to look from. Lagna is physical body, Moon is the mind and Sun is the spirit. You can only make a partial prediction if u use lagna as you are only seeing results from the prespective from body on how will the physical body react to the event. From moon you will see the results from the prespective of mind, how it reacts the pressures you feel mentally, mental agony etc, and Sun is the Spirit and you can see thigns from the prespective from the spirit view point on what the result or how a persons spirit will react or act to the effects. Sun is the natural Atma Karak, the Atma .. the spirit... So think in those ways. You are always welcome with queries, we are all here to learn and in this wonderful instution. Cheers !!! Ash sjvc, suresh sivan <sureshshiv1960> wrote: > > Dear Ash, > Whether thsese houses are to be counted from Lagna or Moon? Would you please clarify? > Thanks, > Suresh > > > > Download Score Tracker for live cricket scores on your desktop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2002 Report Share Posted April 26, 2002 Dear Visti and Ash, Explanation given by Ash is brilliant but he says -- "All results are to be studied from Moon, Sun and Lagna, (Mind, Spirit and Physical Body" I have been taught that sade sati is to be seen from Moon only. Checking it from moon, sun and lagna will make life difficult for natives who have sun and moon in different houses but not in lagna. pls clarify. ~Jaiho - Visti Larsen sjvc Friday, April 26, 2002 1:53 PM Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani Vyam Vysadevaya Namah --------------------------- Dear Ash, Brilliant! Best wishes, Visti. - ashsam73 sjvc Thursday, April 25, 2002 10:49 PM [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani Dear Suresh,When Shani is transitting the 12th, 1st and 2nd house it is called Sade Sati or 7.5 years that Shani takes to transit these house.Now Check the AV strength of Shani. If it has less than 3 bindus and if any planet is giving 0 points in Sarvashatakavarga table for the 12th house then the effect of shani will be felt very severely. Lower the bindu of shani the higher the effect will be. The reason for this is that that for eg. if Shani has 1 bindu in AV, it means that only 1 planet or lagna is helping it so the other planets are not favouring shani (or opposing its natural tendencies to delay or depart a person) hence in the significance of that planet shani cant cause havoc. If shani has 3 bindus or greater the effect will be felt but it will be way better that shani having 1 bindu.Check the strenght of shani for its results. As you know that the natural tendency of Shani is to delay matters, so apply yourself for the other houses. In the 8th house it is in the house of longetivity for lagna, so depending on the strength of Shani, lagna etc it may cause problems. 4th house is that of Sukha sthan and Shani in 4th can delay or deny or depart the signifhcance of 4th house etc etc....All results are to be studied from Moon, Sun and Lagna, (Mind, Spirit and Physical Body).Hope that helps,Cheers !!!Ashsjvc, suresh sivan <sureshshiv1960> wrote:> > Pranam Gurudev,> I read in one article regarding aspect of Sani that> "When sani resides in 12th, 1st and 2nd house it is 7 1/2 Sani, when in the fourth house its Arthastama Sani, When in the 8th house it is Asthama Sani. So I wish to know whether these houses are calculated from Lagna or Moon rasi? and What is the effect of 7 1/2 Sani and Khandaka Sani?> I expect reply from you,> Suresh> > > > Download Score Tracker for live cricket scores on your desktop Terms of Service. Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2002 Report Share Posted April 27, 2002 Om Namo Naraayanaya ----------------- Dear ~Jaiho, See Sade Sathi from Lagna and Moon.. these will have more bearing on the person in this life. Same with Kanataka Sani. Very rarely do we respond to the Sade Sathi on the Sun. Study the Solar & Lunar Yogas given by Parasara, and other authors. Best wishes, Visti. - Shashank Gupta sjvc Friday, April 26, 2002 8:48 PM Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani Dear Visti and Ash, Explanation given by Ash is brilliant but he says -- "All results are to be studied from Moon, Sun and Lagna, (Mind, Spirit and Physical Body" I have been taught that sade sati is to be seen from Moon only. Checking it from moon, sun and lagna will make life difficult for natives who have sun and moon in different houses but not in lagna. pls clarify. ~Jaiho - Visti Larsen sjvc Friday, April 26, 2002 1:53 PM Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani Vyam Vysadevaya Namah --------------------------- Dear Ash, Brilliant! Best wishes, Visti. - ashsam73 sjvc Thursday, April 25, 2002 10:49 PM [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani Dear Suresh,When Shani is transitting the 12th, 1st and 2nd house it is called Sade Sati or 7.5 years that Shani takes to transit these house.Now Check the AV strength of Shani. If it has less than 3 bindus and if any planet is giving 0 points in Sarvashatakavarga table for the 12th house then the effect of shani will be felt very severely. Lower the bindu of shani the higher the effect will be. The reason for this is that that for eg. if Shani has 1 bindu in AV, it means that only 1 planet or lagna is helping it so the other planets are not favouring shani (or opposing its natural tendencies to delay or depart a person) hence in the significance of that planet shani cant cause havoc. If shani has 3 bindus or greater the effect will be felt but it will be way better that shani having 1 bindu.Check the strenght of shani for its results. As you know that the natural tendency of Shani is to delay matters, so apply yourself for the other houses. In the 8th house it is in the house of longetivity for lagna, so depending on the strength of Shani, lagna etc it may cause problems. 4th house is that of Sukha sthan and Shani in 4th can delay or deny or depart the signifhcance of 4th house etc etc....All results are to be studied from Moon, Sun and Lagna, (Mind, Spirit and Physical Body).Hope that helps,Cheers !!!Ashsjvc, suresh sivan <sureshshiv1960> wrote:> > Pranam Gurudev,> I read in one article regarding aspect of Sani that> "When sani resides in 12th, 1st and 2nd house it is 7 1/2 Sani, when in the fourth house its Arthastama Sani, When in the 8th house it is Asthama Sani. So I wish to know whether these houses are calculated from Lagna or Moon rasi? and What is the effect of 7 1/2 Sani and Khandaka Sani?> I expect reply from you,> Suresh> > > > Download Score Tracker for live cricket scores on your desktop Terms of Service. Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2002 Report Share Posted April 27, 2002 Dear Visti, because transits are to be seen from moon and sade sathi is transit phenomenon of saturn........i guess sade sathi is to be seen only from moon....... lets say moon is 4th house for a particular person..........and he is running sade sathi (seeing from lagna)......as soon as sade sathi ends .....another 71/2 cycle of saturn will start (now from moon)..............15 years of continous suffering.......then we have kanataka sani both from moon and lagna ............when will this suffering end ..........it means transit of saturn is always bad..........only god can save us from saturn........as sanjay ji pointed out in his previous mail ......this is KALI yug ........we have to suffer.......eagerly waiting for last *avatar* of lord vishnu.......only he can save us regards, ~Jaiho - Visti Larsen sjvc Saturday, April 27, 2002 3:50 PM Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani Om Namo Naraayanaya ----------------- Dear ~Jaiho, See Sade Sathi from Lagna and Moon.. these will have more bearing on the person in this life. Same with Kanataka Sani. Very rarely do we respond to the Sade Sathi on the Sun. Study the Solar & Lunar Yogas given by Parasara, and other authors. Best wishes, Visti. - Shashank Gupta sjvc Friday, April 26, 2002 8:48 PM Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani Dear Visti and Ash, Explanation given by Ash is brilliant but he says -- "All results are to be studied from Moon, Sun and Lagna, (Mind, Spirit and Physical Body" I have been taught that sade sati is to be seen from Moon only. Checking it from moon, sun and lagna will make life difficult for natives who have sun and moon in different houses but not in lagna. pls clarify. ~Jaiho - Visti Larsen sjvc Friday, April 26, 2002 1:53 PM Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani Vyam Vysadevaya Namah --------------------------- Dear Ash, Brilliant! Best wishes, Visti. - ashsam73 sjvc Thursday, April 25, 2002 10:49 PM [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani Dear Suresh,When Shani is transitting the 12th, 1st and 2nd house it is called Sade Sati or 7.5 years that Shani takes to transit these house.Now Check the AV strength of Shani. If it has less than 3 bindus and if any planet is giving 0 points in Sarvashatakavarga table for the 12th house then the effect of shani will be felt very severely. Lower the bindu of shani the higher the effect will be. The reason for this is that that for eg. if Shani has 1 bindu in AV, it means that only 1 planet or lagna is helping it so the other planets are not favouring shani (or opposing its natural tendencies to delay or depart a person) hence in the significance of that planet shani cant cause havoc. If shani has 3 bindus or greater the effect will be felt but it will be way better that shani having 1 bindu.Check the strenght of shani for its results. As you know that the natural tendency of Shani is to delay matters, so apply yourself for the other houses. In the 8th house it is in the house of longetivity for lagna, so depending on the strength of Shani, lagna etc it may cause problems. 4th house is that of Sukha sthan and Shani in 4th can delay or deny or depart the signifhcance of 4th house etc etc....All results are to be studied from Moon, Sun and Lagna, (Mind, Spirit and Physical Body).Hope that helps,Cheers !!!Ashsjvc, suresh sivan <sureshshiv1960> wrote:> > Pranam Gurudev,> I read in one article regarding aspect of Sani that> "When sani resides in 12th, 1st and 2nd house it is 7 1/2 Sani, when in the fourth house its Arthastama Sani, When in the 8th house it is Asthama Sani. So I wish to know whether these houses are calculated from Lagna or Moon rasi? and What is the effect of 7 1/2 Sani and Khandaka Sani?> I expect reply from you,> Suresh> > > > Download Score Tracker for live cricket scores on your desktop Terms of Service. Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2002 Report Share Posted April 27, 2002 Om Namo Naraayanaya ----------------- Dear ~Jaiho, They had Sade Sathi in the other Yugas as well. Why are you waiting for Kalki, when he's right there in front of you.. go to him; Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya Best wishes, Visti. - Shashank Gupta sjvc Saturday, April 27, 2002 1:01 PM Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani Dear Visti, because transits are to be seen from moon and sade sathi is transit phenomenon of saturn........i guess sade sathi is to be seen only from moon....... lets say moon is 4th house for a particular person..........and he is running sade sathi (seeing from lagna)......as soon as sade sathi ends .....another 71/2 cycle of saturn will start (now from moon)..............15 years of continous suffering.......then we have kanataka sani both from moon and lagna ............when will this suffering end ..........it means transit of saturn is always bad..........only god can save us from saturn........as sanjay ji pointed out in his previous mail ......this is KALI yug ........we have to suffer.......eagerly waiting for last *avatar* of lord vishnu.......only he can save us regards, ~Jaiho - Visti Larsen sjvc Saturday, April 27, 2002 3:50 PM Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani Om Namo Naraayanaya ----------------- Dear ~Jaiho, See Sade Sathi from Lagna and Moon.. these will have more bearing on the person in this life. Same with Kanataka Sani. Very rarely do we respond to the Sade Sathi on the Sun. Study the Solar & Lunar Yogas given by Parasara, and other authors. Best wishes, Visti. - Shashank Gupta sjvc Friday, April 26, 2002 8:48 PM Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani Dear Visti and Ash, Explanation given by Ash is brilliant but he says -- "All results are to be studied from Moon, Sun and Lagna, (Mind, Spirit and Physical Body" I have been taught that sade sati is to be seen from Moon only. Checking it from moon, sun and lagna will make life difficult for natives who have sun and moon in different houses but not in lagna. pls clarify. ~Jaiho - Visti Larsen sjvc Friday, April 26, 2002 1:53 PM Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani Vyam Vysadevaya Namah --------------------------- Dear Ash, Brilliant! Best wishes, Visti. - ashsam73 sjvc Thursday, April 25, 2002 10:49 PM [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani Dear Suresh,When Shani is transitting the 12th, 1st and 2nd house it is called Sade Sati or 7.5 years that Shani takes to transit these house.Now Check the AV strength of Shani. If it has less than 3 bindus and if any planet is giving 0 points in Sarvashatakavarga table for the 12th house then the effect of shani will be felt very severely. Lower the bindu of shani the higher the effect will be. The reason for this is that that for eg. if Shani has 1 bindu in AV, it means that only 1 planet or lagna is helping it so the other planets are not favouring shani (or opposing its natural tendencies to delay or depart a person) hence in the significance of that planet shani cant cause havoc. If shani has 3 bindus or greater the effect will be felt but it will be way better that shani having 1 bindu.Check the strenght of shani for its results. As you know that the natural tendency of Shani is to delay matters, so apply yourself for the other houses. In the 8th house it is in the house of longetivity for lagna, so depending on the strength of Shani, lagna etc it may cause problems. 4th house is that of Sukha sthan and Shani in 4th can delay or deny or depart the signifhcance of 4th house etc etc....All results are to be studied from Moon, Sun and Lagna, (Mind, Spirit and Physical Body).Hope that helps,Cheers !!!Ashsjvc, suresh sivan <sureshshiv1960> wrote:> > Pranam Gurudev,> I read in one article regarding aspect of Sani that> "When sani resides in 12th, 1st and 2nd house it is 7 1/2 Sani, when in the fourth house its Arthastama Sani, When in the 8th house it is Asthama Sani. So I wish to know whether these houses are calculated from Lagna or Moon rasi? and What is the effect of 7 1/2 Sani and Khandaka Sani?> I expect reply from you,> Suresh> > > > Download Score Tracker for live cricket scores on your desktop Terms of Service. Terms of Service. Your use of is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2002 Report Share Posted April 27, 2002 Dear Shashank, Shani by its nature is Malefic, and cause delays in events. Sometimes Aspect of Shani may not be bad, as it can even Delay Death. Shani can also be a great blessing. Shani tends to delay matters by its Graha Dristi. Let us take Shani in 12th. Shani in 12th aspects 2nd house (wealth, family etc), 6th house (individuality, status, etc) and 9th house (luck, father, etc) When Shani transits 12th house then Matters regarding these are delayed. When we consider aspect of Sade Sati over moon sign we are seeing its effect on Mana and how mana reacts to the delays, pressures etc. Also check for the 6th house and Lagna strength to see how the native reacts and how strong is his individuality to face those problems. Everything is inter related. If a person does not have the strenght to face the problems.. then he may attempt suicide etc, but if a person is strong and strong willed person then he will take it in his stride, learn from the experience and will be a better person in the long run. I guess that is why they say that Shani is the greatest teacher. I said check the events from Sun that is what I was trying to get at to check the spirit of the person and from langa was how physical body reacts. There was in interesting anicdote that I had read somewhere. "When there is a storm, some people run and take shelter, whereas some build a windmill". On the Same grounds, Do people not get married during Sade Sati, or get job promotions or have children ? If they do then there is much more to just the transit of Saturn over 12th, 1st and 2nd house. Ponder over this, and I shall do the same and when I have some information on the same I will write more. These were just my thoughts. If I have caused any confusion, then I am sorry for the same. Thanking you, Cheers !!! Ash sjvc, "Shashank Gupta" <shashankmail@s...> wrote: > Dear Visti, > > because transits are to be seen from moon and sade sathi is transit phenomenon of saturn........i guess sade sathi is to be seen only from moon....... > > lets say moon is 4th house for a particular person..........and he is running sade sathi (seeing from lagna)......as soon as sade sathi ends .....another 71/2 cycle of saturn will start (now from moon)..............15 years of continous suffering.......then we have kanataka sani both from moon and lagna ...........when will this suffering end ..........it means transit of saturn is always bad..........only god can save us from saturn........as sanjay ji pointed out in his previous mail ......this is KALI yug ........we have to suffer.......eagerly waiting for last *avatar* of lord vishnu.......only he can save us > > regards, > ~Jaiho > - > Visti Larsen > sjvc > Saturday, April 27, 2002 3:50 PM > Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani > > > Om Namo Naraayanaya > ----------------- > Dear ~Jaiho, > See Sade Sathi from Lagna and Moon.. these will have more bearing on the person in this life. > > Same with Kanataka Sani. > > Very rarely do we respond to the Sade Sathi on the Sun. > > Study the Solar & Lunar Yogas given by Parasara, and other authors. > Best wishes, Visti. > - > Shashank Gupta > sjvc > Friday, April 26, 2002 8:48 PM > Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani > > > Dear Visti and Ash, > > Explanation given by Ash is brilliant but he says -- > > "All results are to be studied from Moon, Sun and Lagna, (Mind, Spirit > and Physical Body" > > I have been taught that sade sati is to be seen from Moon only. Checking it from moon, sun and lagna will make life difficult for natives who have sun and moon in different houses but not in lagna. > > pls clarify. > > ~Jaiho > > - > Visti Larsen > sjvc > Friday, April 26, 2002 1:53 PM > Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani > > > Vyam Vysadevaya Namah > --------------------------- > Dear Ash, > Brilliant! > Best wishes, Visti. > - > ashsam73 > sjvc > Thursday, April 25, 2002 10:49 PM > [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani > > > Dear Suresh, > > When Shani is transitting the 12th, 1st and 2nd house it is called > Sade Sati or 7.5 years that Shani takes to transit these house. > Now Check the AV strength of Shani. If it has less than 3 bindus and > if any planet is giving 0 points in Sarvashatakavarga table for the > 12th house then the effect of shani will be felt very severely. > Lower the bindu of shani the higher the effect will be. The reason > for this is that that for eg. if Shani has 1 bindu in AV, it means > that only 1 planet or lagna is helping it so the other planets are > not favouring shani (or opposing its natural tendencies to delay or > depart a person) hence in the significance of that planet shani cant > cause havoc. If shani has 3 bindus or greater the effect will be > felt but it will be way better that shani having 1 bindu. > Check the strenght of shani for its results. > > As you know that the natural tendency of Shani is to delay matters, > so apply yourself for the other houses. In the 8th house it is in > the house of longetivity for lagna, so depending on the strength of > Shani, lagna etc it may cause problems. 4th house is that of Sukha > sthan and Shani in 4th can delay or deny or depart the signifhcance > of 4th house etc etc.... > > All results are to be studied from Moon, Sun and Lagna, (Mind, Spirit > and Physical Body). > > > Hope that helps, > > Cheers !!! > Ash > > sjvc, suresh sivan <sureshshiv1960> wrote: > > > > Pranam Gurudev, > > I read in one article regarding aspect of Sani that > > "When sani resides in 12th, 1st and 2nd house it is 7 1/2 Sani, > when in the fourth house its Arthastama Sani, When in the 8th house > it is Asthama Sani. So I wish to know whether these houses are > calculated from Lagna or Moon rasi? and What is the effect of 7 1/2 > Sani and Khandaka Sani? > > I expect reply from you, > > Suresh > > > > > > > > Download Score Tracker for live cricket scores on your > desktop > > > > Terms of Service. > > > Terms of Service. > > > > Terms of Service. > > > Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2002 Report Share Posted April 27, 2002 The original query was arasied by me. I was favoured with your answers and while thanking you both for enlightening me with the information on sade sati and kandaka sani, one more doubt is remaining still " you told that all results are to be studied from moon, sun and lagna as well", it is giving me little bit confusion. Would you please advise me whether houses are to be counted from Moon or Lagna. Because I saw so many articles and monthly predction os various astrologers in India they they are calculating the sade sathi and kandaka sani from moon rasi. So in this for example: My younger daughter is born in 02-05-1995 at 7.45 am in Trichur, Kerala state India. Her moon rasi is Taurus as well as Lagna placed in Taurus. So according to your information whether is affected by sada sati?. Even in my case my moon rasi is Aquarius (DOB 16-4-1960, at 3.37 pm at palakkad, kerala India) so I am too affected by Kandaka sani? since Sani is residing in Taurus till coming 23rd July. Would please give me more details. I am very interested to know more about this. If my findings are wrong please correct me. Also if you could advise me suitable mantra or astrological remedy to get rid of the evil effect of theise Sade sati and Kandaka sani. Thanks and regards, Suresh Visti Larsen <vlarsen (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote: Om Namo Naraayanaya ----------------- Dear ~Jaiho, They had Sade Sathi in the other Yugas as well. Why are you waiting for Kalki, when he's right there in front of you.. go to him; Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya Best wishes, Visti. - Shashank Gupta sjvc Saturday, April 27, 2002 1:01 PM Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani Dear Visti, because transits are to be seen from moon and sade sathi is transit phenomenon of saturn........i guess sade sathi is to be seen only from moon....... lets say moon is 4th house for a particular person..........and he is running sade sathi (seeing from lagna)......as soon as sade sathi ends .....another 71/2 cycle of saturn will start (now from moon)..............15 years of continous suffering.......then we have kanataka sani both from moon and lagna ............when will this suffering end ..........it means transit of saturn is always bad..........only god can save us from saturn........as sanjay ji pointed out in his previous mail ......this is KALI yug ........we have to suffer.......eagerly waiting for last *avatar* of lord vishnu.......only he can save us regards, ~Jaiho - Visti Larsen sjvc Saturday, April 27, 2002 3:50 PM Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani Om Namo Naraayanaya ----------------- Dear ~Jaiho, See Sade Sathi from Lagna and Moon.. these will have more bearing on the person in this life. Same with Kanataka Sani. Very rarely do we respond to the Sade Sathi on the Sun. Study the Solar & Lunar Yogas given by Parasara, and other authors. Best wishes, Visti. - Shashank Gupta sjvc Friday, April 26, 2002 8:48 PM Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani Dear Visti and Ash, Explanation given by Ash is brilliant but he says -- "All results are to be studied from Moon, Sun and Lagna, (Mind, Spirit and Physical Body" I have been taught that sade sati is to be seen from Moon only. Checking it from moon, sun and lagna will make life difficult for natives who have sun and moon in different houses but not in lagna. pls clarify. ~Jaiho - Visti Larsen sjvc Friday, April 26, 2002 1:53 PM Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani Vyam Vysadevaya Namah --------------------------- Dear Ash, Brilliant! Best wishes, Visti. - ashsam73 sjvc Thursday, April 25, 2002 10:49 PM [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani Dear Suresh,When Shani is transitting the 12th, 1st and 2nd house it is called Sade Sati or 7.5 years that Shani takes to transit these house.Now Check the AV strength of Shani. If it has less than 3 bindus and if any planet is giving 0 points in Sarvashatakavarga table for the 12th house then the effect of shani will be felt very severely. Lower the bindu of shani the higher the effect will be. The reason for this is that that for eg. if Shani has 1 bindu in AV, it means that only 1 planet or lagna is helping it so the other planets are not favouring shani (or opposing its natural tendencies to delay or depart a person) hence in the significance of that planet shani cant cause havoc. If shani has 3 bindus or greater the effect will be felt but it will be way better that shani having 1 bindu.Check the strenght of shani for its results. As you know that the natural tendency of Shani is to delay matters, so apply yourself for the other houses. In the 8th house it is in the house of longetivity for lagna, so depending on the strength of Shani, lagna etc it may cause problems. 4th house is that of Sukha sthan and Shani in 4th can delay or deny or depart the signifhcance of 4th house etc etc....All results are to be studied from Moon, Sun and Lagna, (Mind, Spirit and Physical Body).Hope that helps,Cheers !!!Ashsjvc, suresh sivan <sureshshiv1960> wrote:> > Pranam Gurudev,> I read in one article regarding aspect of Sani that> "When sani resides in 12th, 1st and 2nd house it is 7 1/2 Sani, when in the fourth house its Arthastama Sani, When in the 8th house it is Asthama Sani. So I wish to know whether these houses are calculated from Lagna or Moon rasi? and What is the effect of 7 1/2 Sani and Khandaka Sani?> I expect reply from you,> Suresh> > > > Download Score Tracker for live cricket scores on your desktop Terms of Service. Terms of Service. Your use of is subject to the Your use of Groups is subject to the Download Score Tracker for live cricket scores on your desktop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2002 Report Share Posted April 27, 2002 Please do not feel that you have made any confusion to any one. Every body is sharing there knowledge. I was really happy to get your answer and I look forward to the information / advise on this query from you and visti as well. I wish to get your advise and answer for my doubts which I posted today just while ago to you, to Visti and to the group aswell. I hope you will not refrain from giving information and advise. thanks once again, I remain, Sincerely Yours SURESH ashsam73 <ashsam73 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote: Dear Shashank,Shani by its nature is Malefic, and cause delays in events. Sometimes Aspect of Shani may not be bad, as it can even Delay Death.Shani can also be a great blessing.Shani tends to delay matters by its Graha Dristi. Let us take Shani in 12th. Shani in 12th aspects 2nd house (wealth, family etc), 6th house (individuality, status, etc) and 9th house (luck, father, etc)When Shani transits 12th house then Matters regarding these are delayed. When we consider aspect of Sade Sati over moon sign we are seeing its effect on Mana and how mana reacts to the delays, pressures etc. Also check for the 6th house and Lagna strength to see how the native reacts and how strong is his individuality to face those problems. Everything is inter related. If a person does not have the strenght to face the problems.. then he may attempt suicide etc, but if a person is strong and strong willed person then he will take it in his stride, learn from the experience and will be a better person in the long run. I guess that is why they say that Shani is the greatest teacher. I said check the events from Sun that is what I was trying to get at to check the spirit of the person and from langa was how physical body reacts. There was in interesting anicdote that I had read somewhere."When there is a storm, some people run and take shelter, whereas some build a windmill".On the Same grounds, Do people not get married during Sade Sati, or get job promotions or have children ? If they do then there is much more to just the transit of Saturn over 12th, 1st and 2nd house.Ponder over this, and I shall do the same and when I have some information on the same I will write more. These were just my thoughts.If I have caused any confusion, then I am sorry for the same.Thanking you,Cheers !!!Ashsjvc, "Shashank Gupta" wrote:> Dear Visti,> > because transits are to be seen from moon and sade sathi is transit phenomenon of saturn........i guess sade sathi is to be seen only from moon.......> > lets say moon is 4th house for a particular person..........and he is running sade sathi (seeing from lagna)......as soon as sade sathi ends .....another 71/2 cycle of saturn will start (now from moon)..............15 years of continous suffering.......then we have kanataka sani both from moon and lagna ...........when will this suffering end ..........it means transit of saturn is always bad..........only god can save us from saturn........as sanjay ji pointed out in his previous mail ......this is KALI yug ........we have to suffer.......eagerly waiting for last *avatar* of lord vishnu.......only he can save us> > regards,> ~Jaiho> - > Visti Larsen > sjvc > Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2002 3:50 PM> Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani> > > Om Namo Naraayanaya> -----------------> Dear ~Jaiho,> See Sade Sathi from Lagna and Moon.. these will have more bearing on the person in this life. > > Same with Kanataka Sani.> > Very rarely do we respond to the Sade Sathi on the Sun.> > Study the Solar & Lunar Yogas given by Parasara, and other authors.> Best wishes, Visti.> - > Shashank Gupta > sjvc > Friday, April 26, 2002 8:48 PM> Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani> > > Dear Visti and Ash,> > Explanation given by Ash is brilliant but he says --> > "All results are to be studied from Moon, Sun and Lagna, (Mind, Spirit > and Physical Body"> > I have been taught that sade sati is to be seen from Moon only. Checking it from moon, sun and lagna will make life difficult for natives who have sun and moon in different houses but not in lagna. > > pls clarify.> > ~Jaiho> > ----- Original Message ----- > Visti Larsen > sjvc > Friday, April 26, 2002 1:53 PM> Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani> > > Vyam Vysadevaya Namah> ---------------------------> Dear Ash,> Brilliant!> Best wishes, Visti.> - > ashsam73 > sjvc > Thursday, April 25, 2002 10:49 PM> [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani> > > Dear Suresh,> > When Shani is transitting the 12th, 1st and 2nd house it is called > Sade Sati or 7.5 years that Shani takes to transit these house.> Now Check the AV strength of Shani. If it has less than 3 bindus and > if any planet is giving 0 points in Sarvashatakavarga table for the > 12th house then the effect of shani will be felt very severely. > Lower the bindu of shani the higher the effect will be. The reason > for this is that that for eg. if Shani has 1 bindu in AV, it means > that only 1 planet or lagna is helping it so the other planets are > not favouring shani (or opposing its natural tendencies to delay or > depart a person) hence in the significance of that planet shani cant > cause havoc. If shani has 3 bindus or greater the effect will be > felt but it will be way better that shani having 1 bindu.> Check the strenght of shani for its results. > > As you know that the natural tendency of Shani is to delay matters, > so apply yourself for the other houses. In the 8th house it is in > the house of longetivity for lagna, so depending on the strength of > Shani, lagna etc it may cause problems. 4th house is that of Sukha > sthan and Shani in 4th can delay or deny or depart the signifhcance > of 4th house etc etc....> > All results are to be studied from Moon, Sun and Lagna, (Mind, Spirit > and Physical Body).> > > Hope that helps,> > Cheers !!!> Ash> > sjvc, suresh sivan wrote:> > > > Pranam Gurudev,> > I read in one article regarding aspect of Sani that> > "When sani resides in 12th, 1st and 2nd house it is 7 1/2 Sani, > when in the fourth house its Arthastama Sani, When in the 8th house > it is Asthama Sani. So I wish to know whether these houses are > calculated from Lagna or Moon rasi? and What is the effect of 7 1/2 > Sani and Khandaka Sani?> > I expect reply from you,> > Suresh> > > > > > > > Download Score Tracker for live cricket scores on your > desktop> > > > Your use of is subject to the > > > Your use of is subject to the > > > > Your use of is subject to the > > > Your use of is subject to the ------------------------ Sponsor ---------------------~-->Buy Stock for $4and no minimums.FREE Money 2002.http://us.click./k6cvND/n97DAA/ySSFAA/XUWolB/TM---~->Your use of is subject to Download Score Tracker for live cricket scores on your desktop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2002 Report Share Posted April 27, 2002 Namasthe all and Ash Hope this will help you in your analysis. In fact I got married in my 7 1/2 years Sani and incidentally my wife was also running 7 1/2 years. She is just 2 1/2 years behind me as mine is Kumbha rasi and her's Meena rasi. Let me know if you need further information or charts for your analysis. Regards Saikumar --- suresh sivan <sureshshiv1960 wrote: > > Dear ash, > Please do not feel that you have made any confusion > to any one. Every body is sharing there knowledge. > I was really happy to get your answer and I look > forward to the information / advise on this query > from you and visti as well. I wish to get your > advise and answer for my doubts which I posted > today just while ago to you, to Visti and to the > group aswell. I hope you will not refrain from > giving information and advise. thanks once again, > I remain, > Sincerely Yours > SURESH > > ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: Dear > Shashank, > > Shani by its nature is Malefic, and cause delays in > events. > Sometimes Aspect of Shani may not be bad, as it can > even Delay Death. > Shani can also be a great blessing. > Shani tends to delay matters by its Graha Dristi. > Let us take Shani > in 12th. Shani in 12th aspects 2nd house (wealth, > family etc), 6th > house (individuality, status, etc) and 9th house > (luck, father, etc) > When Shani transits 12th house then Matters > regarding these are > delayed. > When we consider aspect of Sade Sati over moon sign > we are seeing > its effect on Mana and how mana reacts to the > delays, pressures > etc. Also check for the 6th house and Lagna strength > to see how the > native reacts and how strong is his individuality to > face those > problems. Everything is inter related. If a person > does not have > the strenght to face the problems.. then he may > attempt suicide etc, > but if a person is strong and strong willed person > then he will take > it in his stride, learn from the experience and will > be a better > person in the long run. I guess that is why they say > that Shani is > the greatest teacher. > I said check the events from Sun that is what I was > trying to get at > to check the spirit of the person and from langa was > how physical > body reacts. > > There was in interesting anicdote that I had read > somewhere. > "When there is a storm, some people run and take > shelter, whereas > some build a windmill". > > On the Same grounds, Do people not get married > during Sade Sati, or > get job promotions or have children ? If they do > then there is much > more to just the transit of Saturn over 12th, 1st > and 2nd house. > > Ponder over this, and I shall do the same and when I > have some > information on the same I will write more. > > These were just my thoughts. > > If I have caused any confusion, then I am sorry for > the same. > > Thanking you, > Cheers !!! > Ash > > > > > sjvc, "Shashank Gupta" wrote: > > Dear Visti, > > > > because transits are to be seen from moon and sade > sathi is > transit phenomenon of saturn........i guess sade > sathi is to be seen > only from moon....... > > > > lets say moon is 4th house for a particular > person..........and he > is running sade sathi (seeing from lagna)......as > soon as sade sathi > ends .....another 71/2 cycle of saturn will start > (now from > moon)..............15 years of continous > suffering.......then we > have kanataka sani both from moon and lagna > ...........when will > this suffering end ..........it means transit of > saturn is always > bad..........only god can save us from > saturn........as sanjay ji > pointed out in his previous mail ......this is KALI > yug ........we > have to suffer.......eagerly waiting for last > *avatar* of lord > vishnu.......only he can save us > > > > regards, > > ~Jaiho > > - > > Visti Larsen > > sjvc > > Saturday, April 27, 2002 3:50 PM > > Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & > Kandaka sani > > > > > > Om Namo Naraayanaya > > ----------------- > > Dear ~Jaiho, > > See Sade Sathi from Lagna and Moon.. these will > have more > bearing on the person in this life. > > > > Same with Kanataka Sani. > > > > Very rarely do we respond to the Sade Sathi on the > Sun. > > > > Study the Solar & Lunar Yogas given by Parasara, > and other > authors. > > Best wishes, Visti. > > - > > Shashank Gupta > > sjvc > > Friday, April 26, 2002 8:48 PM > > Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & > Kandaka sani > > > > > > Dear Visti and Ash, > > > > Explanation given by Ash is brilliant but he says > -- > > > > "All results are to be studied from Moon, Sun and > Lagna, > (Mind, Spirit > > and Physical Body" > > > > I have been taught that sade sati is to be seen > from Moon > only. Checking it from moon, sun and lagna will make > life difficult > for natives who have sun and moon in different > houses but not in > lagna. > > > > pls clarify. > > > > ~Jaiho > > > > - > > Visti Larsen > > sjvc > > Friday, April 26, 2002 1:53 PM > > Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & > Kandaka sani > > > > > > Vyam Vysadevaya Namah > > > --------------------------- > > Dear Ash, > > Brilliant! > > Best wishes, Visti. > > - > > ashsam73 > > sjvc > > Thursday, April 25, 2002 10:49 PM > > [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & > Kandaka sani > > > > > > Dear Suresh, > > > > When Shani is transitting the 12th, 1st and 2nd > house it > is called > > Sade Sati or 7.5 years that Shani takes to transit > these > house. > === message truncated === Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2002 Report Share Posted April 27, 2002 Dear Suresh, Gurudev has clarified this in his email to Shashank. Here it is. sjvc/message/2514 That should clear all doubts. Thanks, Cheers !!! Ash sjvc, suresh sivan <sureshshiv1960> wrote: > > Dear Visti & Ash, > The original query was arasied by me. > I was favoured with your answers and while thanking you both for enlightening me with the information on sade sati and kandaka sani, one more doubt is remaining still " you told that all results are to be studied from moon, sun and lagna as well", it is giving me little bit confusion. > Would you please advise me whether houses are to be counted from Moon or Lagna. Because I saw so many articles and monthly predction os various astrologers in India they they are calculating the sade sathi and kandaka sani from moon rasi. So in this for example: My younger daughter is born in 02-05-1995 at 7.45 am in Trichur, Kerala state India. Her moon rasi is Taurus as well as Lagna placed in Taurus. So according to your information whether is affected by sada sati?. Even in my case my moon rasi is Aquarius (DOB 16-4- 1960, at 3.37 pm at palakkad, kerala India) so I am too affected by Kandaka sani? since Sani is residing in Taurus till coming 23rd July. > Would please give me more details. I am very interested to know more about this. > If my findings are wrong please correct me. > Also if you could advise me suitable mantra or astrological remedy to get rid of the evil effect of theise Sade sati and Kandaka sani. > Thanks and regards, > Suresh > > Visti Larsen <vlarsen@h...> wrote: Om Namo Naraayanaya----------- ------Dear ~Jaiho,They had Sade Sathi in the other Yugas as well.Why are you waiting for Kalki, when he's right there in front of you.. go to him; Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya Best wishes, Visti.- Shashank Gupta sjvc Saturday, April 27, 2002 1:01 PMRe: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani > Dear Visti, because transits are to be seen from moon and sade sathi is transit phenomenon of saturn........i guess sade sathi is to be seen only from moon....... lets say moon is 4th house for a particular person..........and he is running sade sathi (seeing from lagna)......as soon as sade sathi ends .....another 71/2 cycle of saturn will start (now from moon)..............15 years of continous suffering.......then we have kanataka sani both from moon and lagna ...........when will this suffering end ..........it means transit of saturn is always bad..........only god can save us from saturn........as sanjay ji pointed out in his previous mail ......this is KALI yug ........we have to suffer.......eagerly waiting for last *avatar* of lord vishnu.......only he can save us regards,~Jaiho- Visti Larsen To: sjvc Saturday, April 27, 2002 3:50 PMRe: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani > Om Namo Naraayanaya--------------- --Dear ~Jaiho,See Sade Sathi from Lagna and Moon.. these will have more bearing on the person in this life. Same with Kanataka Sani. Very rarely do we respond to the Sade Sathi on the Sun. Study the Solar & Lunar Yogas given by Parasara, and other authors.Best wishes, Visti.- Shashank Gupta To: sjvc Friday, April 26, 2002 8:48 PMRe: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani > Dear Visti and Ash, Explanation given by Ash is brilliant but he says -- "All results are to be studied from Moon, Sun and Lagna, (Mind, Spirit > and Physical Body" I have been taught that sade sati is to be seen from Moon only. Checking it from moon, sun and lagna will make life difficult for natives who have sun and moon in different houses but not in lagna. pls clarify. ~Jaiho - Visti Larsen sjvc Friday, April 26, 2002 1:53 PMRe: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani > Vyam Vysadevaya Namah------------- --------------Dear Ash,Brilliant!Best wishes, Visti.----- Original Message ----- ashsam73 sjvc Thursday, April 25, 2002 10:49 PM[sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani > Dear Suresh, > > When Shani is transitting the 12th, 1st and 2nd house it is called > Sade Sati or 7.5 years that Shani takes to transit these house. > Now Check the AV strength of Shani. If it has less than 3 bindus and > if any planet is giving 0 points in Sarvashatakavarga table for the > 12th house then the effect of shani will be felt very severely. > Lower the bindu of shani the higher the effect will be. The reason > for this is that that for eg. if Shani has 1 bindu in AV, it means > that only 1 planet or lagna is helping it so the other planets are > not favouring shani (or opposing its natural tendencies to delay or > depart a person) hence in the significance of that planet shani cant > cause havoc. If shani has 3 bindus or greater the effect will be > felt but it will be way better that shani having 1 bindu. > Check the strenght of shani for its results. > > As you know that the natural tendency of Shani is to delay matters, > so apply yourself for the other houses. In the 8th house it is in > the house of longetivity for lagna, so depending on the strength of > Shani, lagna etc it may cause problems. 4th house is that of Sukha > sthan and Shani in 4th can delay or deny or depart the signifhcance > of 4th house etc etc.... > > All results are to be studied from Moon, Sun and Lagna, (Mind, Spirit > and Physical Body). > > > Hope that helps, > > Cheers !!! > Ash > > sjvc, suresh sivan <sureshshiv1960> wrote: > > > > Pranam Gurudev, > > I read in one article regarding aspect of Sani that > > "When sani resides in 12th, 1st and 2nd house it is 7 1/2 Sani, > when in the fourth house its Arthastama Sani, When in the 8th house > it is Asthama Sani. So I wish to know whether these houses are > calculated from Lagna or Moon rasi? and What is the effect of 7 1/2 > Sani and Khandaka Sani? > > I expect reply from you, > > Suresh > > > > > > > > Download Score Tracker for live cricket scores on your > desktop > > > > Terms of Service. > > Terms of Service. > > > Terms of Service. > > Terms of Service. > > Terms of Service. > > Terms of Service. > > > > Download Score Tracker for live cricket scores on your desktop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2002 Report Share Posted April 28, 2002 Dear Sanjay Sir, Thanks alot for your explanation. Thats the answer i was looking for. Regards, ~Shashank (Jaiho) - Sanjay Rath sjvc Saturday, April 27, 2002 8:59 AM Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani Om Gurave Namah------------------------Dear Shashank Agree - it should be Lagna & Arudha Lagna as well as the Moon. In fact transit Saturn is vital for all predictions. Sade sati is bad in 12, 1 & 2 from natal Moon, whereas it is bad only in 1 from Lagna and AL. It is terrible in AL.Best Regards,Sanjay RathWeb: http://sanjayrath.tripod.com - Shashank Gupta sjvc Saturday, April 27, 2002 12:18 AM Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani Dear Visti and Ash, Explanation given by Ash is brilliant but he says -- "All results are to be studied from Moon, Sun and Lagna, (Mind, Spirit and Physical Body" I have been taught that sade sati is to be seen from Moon only. Checking it from moon, sun and lagna will make life difficult for natives who have sun and moon in different houses but not in lagna. pls clarify. ~Jaiho - Visti Larsen sjvc Friday, April 26, 2002 1:53 PM Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani Vyam Vysadevaya Namah --------------------------- Dear Ash, Brilliant! Best wishes, Visti. - ashsam73 sjvc Thursday, April 25, 2002 10:49 PM [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani Dear Suresh,When Shani is transitting the 12th, 1st and 2nd house it is called Sade Sati or 7.5 years that Shani takes to transit these house.Now Check the AV strength of Shani. If it has less than 3 bindus and if any planet is giving 0 points in Sarvashatakavarga table for the 12th house then the effect of shani will be felt very severely. Lower the bindu of shani the higher the effect will be. The reason for this is that that for eg. if Shani has 1 bindu in AV, it means that only 1 planet or lagna is helping it so the other planets are not favouring shani (or opposing its natural tendencies to delay or depart a person) hence in the significance of that planet shani cant cause havoc. If shani has 3 bindus or greater the effect will be felt but it will be way better that shani having 1 bindu.Check the strenght of shani for its results. As you know that the natural tendency of Shani is to delay matters, so apply yourself for the other houses. In the 8th house it is in the house of longetivity for lagna, so depending on the strength of Shani, lagna etc it may cause problems. 4th house is that of Sukha sthan and Shani in 4th can delay or deny or depart the signifhcance of 4th house etc etc....All results are to be studied from Moon, Sun and Lagna, (Mind, Spirit and Physical Body).Hope that helps,Cheers !!!Ashsjvc, suresh sivan <sureshshiv1960> wrote:> > Pranam Gurudev,> I read in one article regarding aspect of Sani that> "When sani resides in 12th, 1st and 2nd house it is 7 1/2 Sani, when in the fourth house its Arthastama Sani, When in the 8th house it is Asthama Sani. So I wish to know whether these houses are calculated from Lagna or Moon rasi? and What is the effect of 7 1/2 Sani and Khandaka Sani?> I expect reply from you,> Suresh> > > > Download Score Tracker for live cricket scores on your desktop Terms of Service. Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2002 Report Share Posted April 28, 2002 Dear Ash, i completely agree with you. ......struggle makes person more mature and cogent in his thoughts but who will like to struggle for whole life time..........i guess am clear this time.......we dont want saturn (struggle.......sade sati) to rule our life. ~Jaiho - "ashsam73" <ashsam73 <sjvc> Saturday, April 27, 2002 11:01 PM [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani > Dear Shashank, > > Shani by its nature is Malefic, and cause delays in events. > Sometimes Aspect of Shani may not be bad, as it can even Delay Death. > Shani can also be a great blessing. > Shani tends to delay matters by its Graha Dristi. Let us take Shani > in 12th. Shani in 12th aspects 2nd house (wealth, family etc), 6th > house (individuality, status, etc) and 9th house (luck, father, etc) > When Shani transits 12th house then Matters regarding these are > delayed. > When we consider aspect of Sade Sati over moon sign we are seeing > its effect on Mana and how mana reacts to the delays, pressures > etc. Also check for the 6th house and Lagna strength to see how the > native reacts and how strong is his individuality to face those > problems. Everything is inter related. If a person does not have > the strenght to face the problems.. then he may attempt suicide etc, > but if a person is strong and strong willed person then he will take > it in his stride, learn from the experience and will be a better > person in the long run. I guess that is why they say that Shani is > the greatest teacher. > I said check the events from Sun that is what I was trying to get at > to check the spirit of the person and from langa was how physical > body reacts. > > There was in interesting anicdote that I had read somewhere. > "When there is a storm, some people run and take shelter, whereas > some build a windmill". > > On the Same grounds, Do people not get married during Sade Sati, or > get job promotions or have children ? If they do then there is much > more to just the transit of Saturn over 12th, 1st and 2nd house. > > Ponder over this, and I shall do the same and when I have some > information on the same I will write more. > > These were just my thoughts. > > If I have caused any confusion, then I am sorry for the same. > > Thanking you, > Cheers !!! > Ash > > > > > sjvc, "Shashank Gupta" <shashankmail@s...> wrote: > > Dear Visti, > > > > because transits are to be seen from moon and sade sathi is > transit phenomenon of saturn........i guess sade sathi is to be seen > only from moon....... > > > > lets say moon is 4th house for a particular person..........and he > is running sade sathi (seeing from lagna)......as soon as sade sathi > ends .....another 71/2 cycle of saturn will start (now from > moon)..............15 years of continous suffering.......then we > have kanataka sani both from moon and lagna ...........when will > this suffering end ..........it means transit of saturn is always > bad..........only god can save us from saturn........as sanjay ji > pointed out in his previous mail ......this is KALI yug ........we > have to suffer.......eagerly waiting for last *avatar* of lord > vishnu.......only he can save us > > > > regards, > > ~Jaiho > > - > > Visti Larsen > > sjvc > > Saturday, April 27, 2002 3:50 PM > > Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani > > > > > > Om Namo Naraayanaya > > ----------------- > > Dear ~Jaiho, > > See Sade Sathi from Lagna and Moon.. these will have more > bearing on the person in this life. > > > > Same with Kanataka Sani. > > > > Very rarely do we respond to the Sade Sathi on the Sun. > > > > Study the Solar & Lunar Yogas given by Parasara, and other > authors. > > Best wishes, Visti. > > - > > Shashank Gupta > > sjvc > > Friday, April 26, 2002 8:48 PM > > Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani > > > > > > Dear Visti and Ash, > > > > Explanation given by Ash is brilliant but he says -- > > > > "All results are to be studied from Moon, Sun and Lagna, > (Mind, Spirit > > and Physical Body" > > > > I have been taught that sade sati is to be seen from Moon > only. Checking it from moon, sun and lagna will make life difficult > for natives who have sun and moon in different houses but not in > lagna. > > > > pls clarify. > > > > ~Jaiho > > > > - > > Visti Larsen > > sjvc > > Friday, April 26, 2002 1:53 PM > > Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani > > > > > > Vyam Vysadevaya Namah > > --------------------------- > > Dear Ash, > > Brilliant! > > Best wishes, Visti. > > - > > ashsam73 > > sjvc > > Thursday, April 25, 2002 10:49 PM > > [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani > > > > > > Dear Suresh, > > > > When Shani is transitting the 12th, 1st and 2nd house it > is called > > Sade Sati or 7.5 years that Shani takes to transit these > house. > > Now Check the AV strength of Shani. If it has less than 3 > bindus and > > if any planet is giving 0 points in Sarvashatakavarga > table for the > > 12th house then the effect of shani will be felt very > severely. > > Lower the bindu of shani the higher the effect will be. > The reason > > for this is that that for eg. if Shani has 1 bindu in AV, > it means > > that only 1 planet or lagna is helping it so the other > planets are > > not favouring shani (or opposing its natural tendencies to > delay or > > depart a person) hence in the significance of that planet > shani cant > > cause havoc. If shani has 3 bindus or greater the effect > will be > > felt but it will be way better that shani having 1 bindu. > > Check the strenght of shani for its results. > > > > As you know that the natural tendency of Shani is to delay > matters, > > so apply yourself for the other houses. In the 8th house > it is in > > the house of longetivity for lagna, so depending on the > strength of > > Shani, lagna etc it may cause problems. 4th house is that > of Sukha > > sthan and Shani in 4th can delay or deny or depart the > signifhcance > > of 4th house etc etc.... > > > > All results are to be studied from Moon, Sun and Lagna, > (Mind, Spirit > > and Physical Body). > > > > > > Hope that helps, > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > sjvc, suresh sivan <sureshshiv1960> wrote: > > > > > > Pranam Gurudev, > > > I read in one article regarding aspect of Sani that > > > "When sani resides in 12th, 1st and 2nd house it is 7 > 1/2 Sani, > > when in the fourth house its Arthastama Sani, When in the > 8th house > > it is Asthama Sani. So I wish to know whether these > houses are > > calculated from Lagna or Moon rasi? and What is the effect > of 7 1/2 > > Sani and Khandaka Sani? > > > I expect reply from you, > > > Suresh > > > > > > > > > > > > Download Score Tracker for live cricket scores > on your > > desktop > > > > > > > > Terms > of Service. > > > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2002 Report Share Posted April 28, 2002 Dear Visti ji, sorry to say but i dont believe in god........i dont know why i started learning astrology probably because it fascinated me...........before joining this group i thought astrology is a science..... our actions, thoughts are maneuvered by gravitational attraction of planetary bodies but am still trying to find out the *truth*...........same is the case with vedic remedies .......because one cant see the other side of picture its hard to analyze whether something happened naturally or through vedic remedies..... shashank is in search of excellence ( god ??) regards, ~Jaiho - Visti Larsen sjvc Saturday, April 27, 2002 10:42 PM Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani Om Namo Naraayanaya ----------------- Dear ~Jaiho, They had Sade Sathi in the other Yugas as well. Why are you waiting for Kalki, when he's right there in front of you.. go to him; Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya Best wishes, Visti. - Shashank Gupta sjvc Saturday, April 27, 2002 1:01 PM Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani Dear Visti, because transits are to be seen from moon and sade sathi is transit phenomenon of saturn........i guess sade sathi is to be seen only from moon....... lets say moon is 4th house for a particular person..........and he is running sade sathi (seeing from lagna)......as soon as sade sathi ends .....another 71/2 cycle of saturn will start (now from moon)..............15 years of continous suffering.......then we have kanataka sani both from moon and lagna ............when will this suffering end ..........it means transit of saturn is always bad..........only god can save us from saturn........as sanjay ji pointed out in his previous mail ......this is KALI yug ........we have to suffer.......eagerly waiting for last *avatar* of lord vishnu.......only he can save us regards, ~Jaiho - Visti Larsen sjvc Saturday, April 27, 2002 3:50 PM Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani Om Namo Naraayanaya ----------------- Dear ~Jaiho, See Sade Sathi from Lagna and Moon.. these will have more bearing on the person in this life. Same with Kanataka Sani. Very rarely do we respond to the Sade Sathi on the Sun. Study the Solar & Lunar Yogas given by Parasara, and other authors. Best wishes, Visti. - Shashank Gupta sjvc Friday, April 26, 2002 8:48 PM Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani Dear Visti and Ash, Explanation given by Ash is brilliant but he says -- "All results are to be studied from Moon, Sun and Lagna, (Mind, Spirit and Physical Body" I have been taught that sade sati is to be seen from Moon only. Checking it from moon, sun and lagna will make life difficult for natives who have sun and moon in different houses but not in lagna. pls clarify. ~Jaiho - Visti Larsen sjvc Friday, April 26, 2002 1:53 PM Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani Vyam Vysadevaya Namah --------------------------- Dear Ash, Brilliant! Best wishes, Visti. - ashsam73 sjvc Thursday, April 25, 2002 10:49 PM [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani Dear Suresh,When Shani is transitting the 12th, 1st and 2nd house it is called Sade Sati or 7.5 years that Shani takes to transit these house.Now Check the AV strength of Shani. If it has less than 3 bindus and if any planet is giving 0 points in Sarvashatakavarga table for the 12th house then the effect of shani will be felt very severely. Lower the bindu of shani the higher the effect will be. The reason for this is that that for eg. if Shani has 1 bindu in AV, it means that only 1 planet or lagna is helping it so the other planets are not favouring shani (or opposing its natural tendencies to delay or depart a person) hence in the significance of that planet shani cant cause havoc. If shani has 3 bindus or greater the effect will be felt but it will be way better that shani having 1 bindu.Check the strenght of shani for its results. As you know that the natural tendency of Shani is to delay matters, so apply yourself for the other houses. In the 8th house it is in the house of longetivity for lagna, so depending on the strength of Shani, lagna etc it may cause problems. 4th house is that of Sukha sthan and Shani in 4th can delay or deny or depart the signifhcance of 4th house etc etc....All results are to be studied from Moon, Sun and Lagna, (Mind, Spirit and Physical Body).Hope that helps,Cheers !!!Ashsjvc, suresh sivan <sureshshiv1960> wrote:> > Pranam Gurudev,> I read in one article regarding aspect of Sani that> "When sani resides in 12th, 1st and 2nd house it is 7 1/2 Sani, when in the fourth house its Arthastama Sani, When in the 8th house it is Asthama Sani. So I wish to know whether these houses are calculated from Lagna or Moon rasi? and What is the effect of 7 1/2 Sani and Khandaka Sani?> I expect reply from you,> Suresh> > > > Download Score Tracker for live cricket scores on your desktop Terms of Service. Terms of Service. Your use of is subject to the Your use of Groups is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2002 Report Share Posted April 28, 2002 Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya --------------------- Dear Shashank, The Supreme Lord finds great enjoyment, in making us believe, that the universe was created by nothing, and that we alone are the master of our actions. I will be blunt. If you do not believe in God, then you cannot believe in astrology. Hence you allready believe in God. Best wishes, Visti. - Shashank Gupta sjvc Sunday, April 28, 2002 9:41 AM Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani Dear Visti ji, sorry to say but i dont believe in god........i dont know why i started learning astrology probably because it fascinated me...........before joining this group i thought astrology is a science..... our actions, thoughts are maneuvered by gravitational attraction of planetary bodies but am still trying to find out the *truth*...........same is the case with vedic remedies .......because one cant see the other side of picture its hard to analyze whether something happened naturally or through vedic remedies..... shashank is in search of excellence ( god ??) regards, ~Jaiho - Visti Larsen sjvc Saturday, April 27, 2002 10:42 PM Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani Om Namo Naraayanaya ----------------- Dear ~Jaiho, They had Sade Sathi in the other Yugas as well. Why are you waiting for Kalki, when he's right there in front of you.. go to him; Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya Best wishes, Visti. - Shashank Gupta sjvc Saturday, April 27, 2002 1:01 PM Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani Dear Visti, because transits are to be seen from moon and sade sathi is transit phenomenon of saturn........i guess sade sathi is to be seen only from moon....... lets say moon is 4th house for a particular person..........and he is running sade sathi (seeing from lagna)......as soon as sade sathi ends .....another 71/2 cycle of saturn will start (now from moon)..............15 years of continous suffering.......then we have kanataka sani both from moon and lagna ............when will this suffering end ..........it means transit of saturn is always bad..........only god can save us from saturn........as sanjay ji pointed out in his previous mail ......this is KALI yug ........we have to suffer.......eagerly waiting for last *avatar* of lord vishnu.......only he can save us regards, ~Jaiho - Visti Larsen sjvc Saturday, April 27, 2002 3:50 PM Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani Om Namo Naraayanaya ----------------- Dear ~Jaiho, See Sade Sathi from Lagna and Moon.. these will have more bearing on the person in this life. Same with Kanataka Sani. Very rarely do we respond to the Sade Sathi on the Sun. Study the Solar & Lunar Yogas given by Parasara, and other authors. Best wishes, Visti. - Shashank Gupta sjvc Friday, April 26, 2002 8:48 PM Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani Dear Visti and Ash, Explanation given by Ash is brilliant but he says -- "All results are to be studied from Moon, Sun and Lagna, (Mind, Spirit and Physical Body" I have been taught that sade sati is to be seen from Moon only. Checking it from moon, sun and lagna will make life difficult for natives who have sun and moon in different houses but not in lagna. pls clarify. ~Jaiho - Visti Larsen sjvc Friday, April 26, 2002 1:53 PM Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani Vyam Vysadevaya Namah --------------------------- Dear Ash, Brilliant! Best wishes, Visti. - ashsam73 sjvc Thursday, April 25, 2002 10:49 PM [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani Dear Suresh,When Shani is transitting the 12th, 1st and 2nd house it is called Sade Sati or 7.5 years that Shani takes to transit these house.Now Check the AV strength of Shani. If it has less than 3 bindus and if any planet is giving 0 points in Sarvashatakavarga table for the 12th house then the effect of shani will be felt very severely. Lower the bindu of shani the higher the effect will be. The reason for this is that that for eg. if Shani has 1 bindu in AV, it means that only 1 planet or lagna is helping it so the other planets are not favouring shani (or opposing its natural tendencies to delay or depart a person) hence in the significance of that planet shani cant cause havoc. If shani has 3 bindus or greater the effect will be felt but it will be way better that shani having 1 bindu.Check the strenght of shani for its results. As you know that the natural tendency of Shani is to delay matters, so apply yourself for the other houses. In the 8th house it is in the house of longetivity for lagna, so depending on the strength of Shani, lagna etc it may cause problems. 4th house is that of Sukha sthan and Shani in 4th can delay or deny or depart the signifhcance of 4th house etc etc....All results are to be studied from Moon, Sun and Lagna, (Mind, Spirit and Physical Body).Hope that helps,Cheers !!!Ashsjvc, suresh sivan <sureshshiv1960> wrote:> > Pranam Gurudev,> I read in one article regarding aspect of Sani that> "When sani resides in 12th, 1st and 2nd house it is 7 1/2 Sani, when in the fourth house its Arthastama Sani, When in the 8th house it is Asthama Sani. So I wish to know whether these houses are calculated from Lagna or Moon rasi? and What is the effect of 7 1/2 Sani and Khandaka Sani?> I expect reply from you,> Suresh> > > > Download Score Tracker for live cricket scores on your desktop Terms of Service. Terms of Service. Your use of is subject to the Your use of Groups is subject to the Your use of is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2002 Report Share Posted April 28, 2002 Dear Shashank, I appologise for interveining in your reply to Visti. Jyotish is a science with intution (Art) and belief. You are touching on a long debate on fate vs free will. What is written in the chart v/s what can be changed by our karma during this life time. And how much ? If you are a man of science and beleive in science then why is it that in the charts of so many enginners we have saturn aspect mars or vice versa ? or why is it that Shani in the 5th house invariably delays marriage ? If it is aspected by Guru then the delay is reduced ? If you study further you will notice a trend with commonolity. Only if you are in the search of the truth and excellence only then you can go into the root or the moola of things and then with time who knows you might be able solve the enigma of the Ananyamsa or so many other facts of jyotish that different astrologers opine differently and that is purely science. Its refreshing to know that you do not take things on face value and are enthusiastic to go into the deapth of things. Thats always an asset. ps : 1) Could you please confirm that in your chart if your Navamsa lagna is a saturnian sign or sun or moon are in the navamsa of shani and also could you check where Moon, Sun and Rasi Lagna are falling in which sign. Just an instinct. Thanks, Cheers !!! Ash sjvc, "Shashank Gupta" <shashankmail@s...> wrote: > Dear Visti ji, > > sorry to say but i dont believe in god........i dont know why i started learning astrology probably because it fascinated me...........before joining this group i thought astrology is a science..... our actions, thoughts are maneuvered by gravitational attraction of planetary bodies but am still trying to find out the *truth*...........same is the case with vedic remedies .......because one cant see the other side of picture its hard to analyze whether something happened naturally or through vedic remedies..... > > shashank is in search of excellence ( god ??) > > regards, > ~Jaiho > - > Visti Larsen > sjvc > Saturday, April 27, 2002 10:42 PM > Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani > > > Om Namo Naraayanaya > ----------------- > Dear ~Jaiho, > They had Sade Sathi in the other Yugas as well. > Why are you waiting for Kalki, when he's right there in front of you.. go to him; Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya > > Best wishes, Visti. > - > Shashank Gupta > sjvc > Saturday, April 27, 2002 1:01 PM > Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani > > > Dear Visti, > > because transits are to be seen from moon and sade sathi is transit phenomenon of saturn........i guess sade sathi is to be seen only from moon....... > > lets say moon is 4th house for a particular person..........and he is running sade sathi (seeing from lagna)......as soon as sade sathi ends .....another 71/2 cycle of saturn will start (now from moon)..............15 years of continous suffering.......then we have kanataka sani both from moon and lagna ...........when will this suffering end ..........it means transit of saturn is always bad..........only god can save us from saturn........as sanjay ji pointed out in his previous mail ......this is KALI yug ........we have to suffer.......eagerly waiting for last *avatar* of lord vishnu.......only he can save us > > regards, > ~Jaiho > - > Visti Larsen > sjvc > Saturday, April 27, 2002 3:50 PM > Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani > > > Om Namo Naraayanaya > ----------------- > Dear ~Jaiho, > See Sade Sathi from Lagna and Moon.. these will have more bearing on the person in this life. > > Same with Kanataka Sani. > > Very rarely do we respond to the Sade Sathi on the Sun. > > Study the Solar & Lunar Yogas given by Parasara, and other authors. > Best wishes, Visti. > - > Shashank Gupta > sjvc > Friday, April 26, 2002 8:48 PM > Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani > > > Dear Visti and Ash, > > Explanation given by Ash is brilliant but he says -- > > "All results are to be studied from Moon, Sun and Lagna, (Mind, Spirit > and Physical Body" > > I have been taught that sade sati is to be seen from Moon only. Checking it from moon, sun and lagna will make life difficult for natives who have sun and moon in different houses but not in lagna. > > pls clarify. > > ~Jaiho > > - > Visti Larsen > sjvc > Friday, April 26, 2002 1:53 PM > Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani > > > Vyam Vysadevaya Namah > ------------------------ --- > Dear Ash, > Brilliant! > Best wishes, Visti. > - > ashsam73 > sjvc > Thursday, April 25, 2002 10:49 PM > [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani > > > Dear Suresh, > > When Shani is transitting the 12th, 1st and 2nd house it is called > Sade Sati or 7.5 years that Shani takes to transit these house. > Now Check the AV strength of Shani. If it has less than 3 bindus and > if any planet is giving 0 points in Sarvashatakavarga table for the > 12th house then the effect of shani will be felt very severely. > Lower the bindu of shani the higher the effect will be. The reason > for this is that that for eg. if Shani has 1 bindu in AV, it means > that only 1 planet or lagna is helping it so the other planets are > not favouring shani (or opposing its natural tendencies to delay or > depart a person) hence in the significance of that planet shani cant > cause havoc. If shani has 3 bindus or greater the effect will be > felt but it will be way better that shani having 1 bindu. > Check the strenght of shani for its results. > > As you know that the natural tendency of Shani is to delay matters, > so apply yourself for the other houses. In the 8th house it is in > the house of longetivity for lagna, so depending on the strength of > Shani, lagna etc it may cause problems. 4th house is that of Sukha > sthan and Shani in 4th can delay or deny or depart the signifhcance > of 4th house etc etc.... > > All results are to be studied from Moon, Sun and Lagna, (Mind, Spirit > and Physical Body). > > > Hope that helps, > > Cheers !!! > Ash > > sjvc, suresh sivan <sureshshiv1960> wrote: > > > > Pranam Gurudev, > > I read in one article regarding aspect of Sani that > > "When sani resides in 12th, 1st and 2nd house it is 7 1/2 Sani, > when in the fourth house its Arthastama Sani, When in the 8th house > it is Asthama Sani. So I wish to know whether these houses are > calculated from Lagna or Moon rasi? and What is the effect of 7 1/2 > Sani and Khandaka Sani? > > I expect reply from you, > > Suresh > > > > > > > > Download Score Tracker for live cricket scores on your > desktop > > > > Terms of Service. > > > Terms of Service. > > > > Terms of Service. > > > Terms of Service. > > > Terms of Service. > > > Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2002 Report Share Posted April 28, 2002 Dear Shashank, By general psychology of a human, no one wants to face struggle all their lives and I absolutely agree with you. On the same token they want to make their lives more comfortable and this fact I guess goes thru all Yugas, including Kali. If there was no Shani then there would not be a challenging environment and we would not evolve through the times. A simple anology : When its too hot, humans invented the Air conditioner. When its too cold, humans invented the heater, so makeing a long story short, Without Shani we would not evolve. Why are you only looking at Sade Sati. Shani is traversing all 12 signs and is going to put forward challenging conditions in different aspects of life. The astrologers have given a name for a subset where it highlights troublesome areas when shani transits 12,1st,2nd houses from moon and 1st house from Lagna and Arudha lagna. Similarly for Kantaka Shani (Thorn). They have corelated Kantaka term to show at a glance of the effects of shani when it is traversing 8th from lagna ? Shashank, Don't be under the impression that Sade Sati is the only place to watch out Shani's influence and challenge in a chart, he is there and is traversing through all 12 houses and he has 3 Graha dristi so just apply yourself and things will get clear. Thaking you for listening, Cheers !!! Ash sjvc, "Shashank Gupta" <shashankmail@s...> wrote: > Dear Ash, > > i completely agree with you. ......struggle makes person more mature and > cogent in his thoughts but who will like to struggle for whole life > time..........i guess am clear this time.......we dont want saturn > (struggle.......sade sati) to rule our life. > > ~Jaiho > > - > "ashsam73" <ashsam73@h...> > <sjvc> > Saturday, April 27, 2002 11:01 PM > [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani > > > > Dear Shashank, > > > > Shani by its nature is Malefic, and cause delays in events. > > Sometimes Aspect of Shani may not be bad, as it can even Delay Death. > > Shani can also be a great blessing. > > Shani tends to delay matters by its Graha Dristi. Let us take Shani > > in 12th. Shani in 12th aspects 2nd house (wealth, family etc), 6th > > house (individuality, status, etc) and 9th house (luck, father, etc) > > When Shani transits 12th house then Matters regarding these are > > delayed. > > When we consider aspect of Sade Sati over moon sign we are seeing > > its effect on Mana and how mana reacts to the delays, pressures > > etc. Also check for the 6th house and Lagna strength to see how the > > native reacts and how strong is his individuality to face those > > problems. Everything is inter related. If a person does not have > > the strenght to face the problems.. then he may attempt suicide etc, > > but if a person is strong and strong willed person then he will take > > it in his stride, learn from the experience and will be a better > > person in the long run. I guess that is why they say that Shani is > > the greatest teacher. > > I said check the events from Sun that is what I was trying to get at > > to check the spirit of the person and from langa was how physical > > body reacts. > > > > There was in interesting anicdote that I had read somewhere. > > "When there is a storm, some people run and take shelter, whereas > > some build a windmill". > > > > On the Same grounds, Do people not get married during Sade Sati, or > > get job promotions or have children ? If they do then there is much > > more to just the transit of Saturn over 12th, 1st and 2nd house. > > > > Ponder over this, and I shall do the same and when I have some > > information on the same I will write more. > > > > These were just my thoughts. > > > > If I have caused any confusion, then I am sorry for the same. > > > > Thanking you, > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > sjvc, "Shashank Gupta" <shashankmail@s...> wrote: > > > Dear Visti, > > > > > > because transits are to be seen from moon and sade sathi is > > transit phenomenon of saturn........i guess sade sathi is to be seen > > only from moon....... > > > > > > lets say moon is 4th house for a particular person..........and he > > is running sade sathi (seeing from lagna)......as soon as sade sathi > > ends .....another 71/2 cycle of saturn will start (now from > > moon)..............15 years of continous suffering.......then we > > have kanataka sani both from moon and lagna ...........when will > > this suffering end ..........it means transit of saturn is always > > bad..........only god can save us from saturn........as sanjay ji > > pointed out in his previous mail ......this is KALI yug ........we > > have to suffer.......eagerly waiting for last *avatar* of lord > > vishnu.......only he can save us > > > > > > regards, > > > ~Jaiho > > > - > > > Visti Larsen > > > sjvc > > > Saturday, April 27, 2002 3:50 PM > > > Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Naraayanaya > > > ----------------- > > > Dear ~Jaiho, > > > See Sade Sathi from Lagna and Moon.. these will have more > > bearing on the person in this life. > > > > > > Same with Kanataka Sani. > > > > > > Very rarely do we respond to the Sade Sathi on the Sun. > > > > > > Study the Solar & Lunar Yogas given by Parasara, and other > > authors. > > > Best wishes, Visti. > > > - > > > Shashank Gupta > > > sjvc > > > Friday, April 26, 2002 8:48 PM > > > Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani > > > > > > > > > Dear Visti and Ash, > > > > > > Explanation given by Ash is brilliant but he says -- > > > > > > "All results are to be studied from Moon, Sun and Lagna, > > (Mind, Spirit > > > and Physical Body" > > > > > > I have been taught that sade sati is to be seen from Moon > > only. Checking it from moon, sun and lagna will make life difficult > > for natives who have sun and moon in different houses but not in > > lagna. > > > > > > pls clarify. > > > > > > ~Jaiho > > > > > > - > > > Visti Larsen > > > sjvc > > > Friday, April 26, 2002 1:53 PM > > > Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani > > > > > > > > > Vyam Vysadevaya Namah > > > ------------------------ --- > > > Dear Ash, > > > Brilliant! > > > Best wishes, Visti. > > > - > > > ashsam73 > > > sjvc > > > Thursday, April 25, 2002 10:49 PM > > > [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani > > > > > > > > > Dear Suresh, > > > > > > When Shani is transitting the 12th, 1st and 2nd house it > > is called > > > Sade Sati or 7.5 years that Shani takes to transit these > > house. > > > Now Check the AV strength of Shani. If it has less than 3 > > bindus and > > > if any planet is giving 0 points in Sarvashatakavarga > > table for the > > > 12th house then the effect of shani will be felt very > > severely. > > > Lower the bindu of shani the higher the effect will be. > > The reason > > > for this is that that for eg. if Shani has 1 bindu in AV, > > it means > > > that only 1 planet or lagna is helping it so the other > > planets are > > > not favouring shani (or opposing its natural tendencies to > > delay or > > > depart a person) hence in the significance of that planet > > shani cant > > > cause havoc. If shani has 3 bindus or greater the effect > > will be > > > felt but it will be way better that shani having 1 bindu. > > > Check the strenght of shani for its results. > > > > > > As you know that the natural tendency of Shani is to delay > > matters, > > > so apply yourself for the other houses. In the 8th house > > it is in > > > the house of longetivity for lagna, so depending on the > > strength of > > > Shani, lagna etc it may cause problems. 4th house is that > > of Sukha > > > sthan and Shani in 4th can delay or deny or depart the > > signifhcance > > > of 4th house etc etc.... > > > > > > All results are to be studied from Moon, Sun and Lagna, > > (Mind, Spirit > > > and Physical Body). > > > > > > > > > Hope that helps, > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash > > > > > > sjvc, suresh sivan <sureshshiv1960> wrote: > > > > > > > > Pranam Gurudev, > > > > I read in one article regarding aspect of Sani that > > > > "When sani resides in 12th, 1st and 2nd house it is 7 > > 1/2 Sani, > > > when in the fourth house its Arthastama Sani, When in the > > 8th house > > > it is Asthama Sani. So I wish to know whether these > > houses are > > > calculated from Lagna or Moon rasi? and What is the effect > > of 7 1/2 > > > Sani and Khandaka Sani? > > > > I expect reply from you, > > > > Suresh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Download Score Tracker for live cricket scores > > on your > > > desktop > > > > > > > > > > > > Terms > > of Service. > > > > > > > > > Terms of > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > Terms of > > Service. > > > > > > > > > Terms of > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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