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I read in one article regarding aspect of Sani that

"When sani resides in 12th, 1st and 2nd house it is 7 1/2 Sani, when in the

fourth house its Arthastama Sani, When in the 8th house it is Asthama Sani. So

I wish to know whether these houses are calculated from Lagna or Moon rasi? and

What is the effect of 7 1/2 Sani and Khandaka Sani?

I expect reply from you,

Suresh

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Dear Suresh,

 

When Shani is transitting the 12th, 1st and 2nd house it is called

Sade Sati or 7.5 years that Shani takes to transit these house.

Now Check the AV strength of Shani. If it has less than 3 bindus and

if any planet is giving 0 points in Sarvashatakavarga table for the

12th house then the effect of shani will be felt very severely.

Lower the bindu of shani the higher the effect will be. The reason

for this is that that for eg. if Shani has 1 bindu in AV, it means

that only 1 planet or lagna is helping it so the other planets are

not favouring shani (or opposing its natural tendencies to delay or

depart a person) hence in the significance of that planet shani cant

cause havoc. If shani has 3 bindus or greater the effect will be

felt but it will be way better that shani having 1 bindu.

Check the strenght of shani for its results.

 

As you know that the natural tendency of Shani is to delay matters,

so apply yourself for the other houses. In the 8th house it is in

the house of longetivity for lagna, so depending on the strength of

Shani, lagna etc it may cause problems. 4th house is that of Sukha

sthan and Shani in 4th can delay or deny or depart the signifhcance

of 4th house etc etc....

 

All results are to be studied from Moon, Sun and Lagna, (Mind, Spirit

and Physical Body).

 

 

Hope that helps,

 

Cheers !!!

Ash

 

sjvc, suresh sivan <sureshshiv1960> wrote:

>

> Pranam Gurudev,

> I read in one article regarding aspect of Sani that

> "When sani resides in 12th, 1st and 2nd house it is 7 1/2 Sani,

when in the fourth house its Arthastama Sani, When in the 8th house

it is Asthama Sani. So I wish to know whether these houses are

calculated from Lagna or Moon rasi? and What is the effect of 7 1/2

Sani and Khandaka Sani?

> I expect reply from you,

> Suresh

>

>

>

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Vyam Vysadevaya Namah

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Dear Ash,

Brilliant!

Best wishes, Visti.

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Thursday, April 25, 2002 10:49 PM

[sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani

Dear Suresh,When Shani is transitting the 12th, 1st and 2nd house it is called

Sade Sati or 7.5 years that Shani takes to transit these house.Now Check the AV

strength of Shani. If it has less than 3 bindus and if any planet is giving 0

points in Sarvashatakavarga table for the 12th house then the effect of shani

will be felt very severely. Lower the bindu of shani the higher the effect

will be. The reason for this is that that for eg. if Shani has 1 bindu in AV,

it means that only 1 planet or lagna is helping it so the other planets are

not favouring shani (or opposing its natural tendencies to delay or depart a

person) hence in the significance of that planet shani cant cause havoc. If

shani has 3 bindus or greater the effect will be felt but it will be way better

that shani having 1 bindu.Check the strenght of shani for its results. As you

know that the natural tendency of Shani is to delay matters, so apply yourself

for the other houses. In the 8th house it is in the house of longetivity for

lagna, so depending on the strength of Shani, lagna etc it may cause problems.

4th house is that of Sukha sthan and Shani in 4th can delay or deny or depart

the signifhcance of 4th house etc etc....All results are to be studied from

Moon, Sun and Lagna, (Mind, Spirit and Physical Body).Hope that helps,Cheers

!!!Ashsjvc, suresh sivan <sureshshiv1960> wrote:> > Pranam

Gurudev,> I read in one article regarding aspect of Sani that> "When sani

resides in 12th, 1st and 2nd house it is 7 1/2 Sani, when in the fourth house

its Arthastama Sani, When in the 8th house it is Asthama Sani. So I wish to

know whether these houses are calculated from Lagna or Moon rasi? and What is

the effect of 7 1/2 Sani and Khandaka Sani?> I expect reply from you,> Suresh>

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Thank you so much for throwing light on my query about 7 1/2 Sani Looking

forward to get more information on other apsects, I will come to you

Thans once again

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Whether thsese houses are to be counted from Lagna or Moon? Would you please clarify?

Thanks,

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Dear Suresh,

 

What is Lagna and Moon and Sun and why have the Maharishis said to

look for results from ALL of them ? Each one gives different

prespective to look from.

 

Lagna is physical body, Moon is the mind and Sun is the spirit.

You can only make a partial prediction if u use lagna as you are

only seeing results from the prespective from body on how will the

physical body react to the event. From moon you will see the

results from the prespective of mind, how it reacts the pressures

you feel mentally, mental agony etc, and Sun is the Spirit and you

can see thigns from the prespective from the spirit view point on

what the result or how a persons spirit will react or act to the

effects. Sun is the natural Atma Karak, the Atma .. the spirit...

So think in those ways.

You are always welcome with queries, we are all here to learn and in

this wonderful instution.

 

Cheers !!!

Ash

 

sjvc, suresh sivan <sureshshiv1960> wrote:

>

> Dear Ash,

> Whether thsese houses are to be counted from Lagna or Moon? Would

you please clarify?

> Thanks,

> Suresh

>

>

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Dear Visti and Ash,

 

Explanation given by Ash is brilliant but he says --

 

"All results are to be studied from Moon, Sun and Lagna, (Mind, Spirit and Physical Body"

 

I have been taught that sade sati is to be seen from Moon only. Checking it from

moon, sun and lagna will make life difficult for natives who have sun and moon

in different houses but not in lagna.

 

pls clarify.

 

~Jaiho

 

-

Visti Larsen

sjvc

Friday, April 26, 2002 1:53 PM

Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani

Vyam Vysadevaya Namah

---------------------------

Dear Ash,

Brilliant!

Best wishes, Visti.

-

ashsam73

sjvc

Thursday, April 25, 2002 10:49 PM

[sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani

Dear Suresh,When Shani is transitting the 12th, 1st and 2nd house it is called

Sade Sati or 7.5 years that Shani takes to transit these house.Now Check the AV

strength of Shani. If it has less than 3 bindus and if any planet is giving 0

points in Sarvashatakavarga table for the 12th house then the effect of shani

will be felt very severely. Lower the bindu of shani the higher the effect

will be. The reason for this is that that for eg. if Shani has 1 bindu in AV,

it means that only 1 planet or lagna is helping it so the other planets are

not favouring shani (or opposing its natural tendencies to delay or depart a

person) hence in the significance of that planet shani cant cause havoc. If

shani has 3 bindus or greater the effect will be felt but it will be way better

that shani having 1 bindu.Check the strenght of shani for its results. As you

know that the natural tendency of Shani is to delay matters, so apply yourself

for the other houses. In the 8th house it is in the house of longetivity for

lagna, so depending on the strength of Shani, lagna etc it may cause problems.

4th house is that of Sukha sthan and Shani in 4th can delay or deny or depart

the signifhcance of 4th house etc etc....All results are to be studied from

Moon, Sun and Lagna, (Mind, Spirit and Physical Body).Hope that helps,Cheers

!!!Ashsjvc, suresh sivan <sureshshiv1960> wrote:> > Pranam

Gurudev,> I read in one article regarding aspect of Sani that> "When sani

resides in 12th, 1st and 2nd house it is 7 1/2 Sani, when in the fourth house

its Arthastama Sani, When in the 8th house it is Asthama Sani. So I wish to

know whether these houses are calculated from Lagna or Moon rasi? and What is

the effect of 7 1/2 Sani and Khandaka Sani?> I expect reply from you,> Suresh>

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Om Namo Naraayanaya

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Dear ~Jaiho,

See Sade Sathi from Lagna and Moon.. these will have more bearing on the person in this life.

 

Same with Kanataka Sani.

 

Very rarely do we respond to the Sade Sathi on the Sun.

 

Study the Solar & Lunar Yogas given by Parasara, and other authors.

Best wishes, Visti.

-

Shashank Gupta

sjvc

Friday, April 26, 2002 8:48 PM

Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani

Dear Visti and Ash,

 

Explanation given by Ash is brilliant but he says --

 

"All results are to be studied from Moon, Sun and Lagna, (Mind, Spirit and Physical Body"

 

I have been taught that sade sati is to be seen from Moon only. Checking it from

moon, sun and lagna will make life difficult for natives who have sun and moon

in different houses but not in lagna.

 

pls clarify.

 

~Jaiho

 

-

Visti Larsen

sjvc

Friday, April 26, 2002 1:53 PM

Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani

Vyam Vysadevaya Namah

---------------------------

Dear Ash,

Brilliant!

Best wishes, Visti.

-

ashsam73

sjvc

Thursday, April 25, 2002 10:49 PM

[sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani

Dear Suresh,When Shani is transitting the 12th, 1st and 2nd house it is called

Sade Sati or 7.5 years that Shani takes to transit these house.Now Check the AV

strength of Shani. If it has less than 3 bindus and if any planet is giving 0

points in Sarvashatakavarga table for the 12th house then the effect of shani

will be felt very severely. Lower the bindu of shani the higher the effect

will be. The reason for this is that that for eg. if Shani has 1 bindu in AV,

it means that only 1 planet or lagna is helping it so the other planets are

not favouring shani (or opposing its natural tendencies to delay or depart a

person) hence in the significance of that planet shani cant cause havoc. If

shani has 3 bindus or greater the effect will be felt but it will be way better

that shani having 1 bindu.Check the strenght of shani for its results. As you

know that the natural tendency of Shani is to delay matters, so apply yourself

for the other houses. In the 8th house it is in the house of longetivity for

lagna, so depending on the strength of Shani, lagna etc it may cause problems.

4th house is that of Sukha sthan and Shani in 4th can delay or deny or depart

the signifhcance of 4th house etc etc....All results are to be studied from

Moon, Sun and Lagna, (Mind, Spirit and Physical Body).Hope that helps,Cheers

!!!Ashsjvc, suresh sivan <sureshshiv1960> wrote:> > Pranam

Gurudev,> I read in one article regarding aspect of Sani that> "When sani

resides in 12th, 1st and 2nd house it is 7 1/2 Sani, when in the fourth house

its Arthastama Sani, When in the 8th house it is Asthama Sani. So I wish to

know whether these houses are calculated from Lagna or Moon rasi? and What is

the effect of 7 1/2 Sani and Khandaka Sani?> I expect reply from you,> Suresh>

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Dear Visti,

 

because transits are to be seen from moon and sade sathi is transit phenomenon

of saturn........i guess sade sathi is to be seen only from moon.......

 

lets say moon is 4th house for a particular person..........and he is running

sade sathi (seeing from lagna)......as soon as sade sathi ends .....another

71/2 cycle of saturn will start (now from moon)..............15 years of

continous suffering.......then we have kanataka sani both from moon and lagna

............when will this suffering end ..........it means transit of saturn is

always bad..........only god can save us from saturn........as sanjay ji pointed

out in his previous mail ......this is KALI yug ........we have to

suffer.......eagerly waiting for last *avatar* of lord vishnu.......only he can

save us

 

regards,

~Jaiho

-

Visti Larsen

sjvc

Saturday, April 27, 2002 3:50 PM

Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani

Om Namo Naraayanaya

-----------------

Dear ~Jaiho,

See Sade Sathi from Lagna and Moon.. these will have more bearing on the person in this life.

 

Same with Kanataka Sani.

 

Very rarely do we respond to the Sade Sathi on the Sun.

 

Study the Solar & Lunar Yogas given by Parasara, and other authors.

Best wishes, Visti.

-

Shashank Gupta

sjvc

Friday, April 26, 2002 8:48 PM

Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani

Dear Visti and Ash,

 

Explanation given by Ash is brilliant but he says --

 

"All results are to be studied from Moon, Sun and Lagna, (Mind, Spirit and Physical Body"

 

I have been taught that sade sati is to be seen from Moon only. Checking it from

moon, sun and lagna will make life difficult for natives who have sun and moon

in different houses but not in lagna.

 

pls clarify.

 

~Jaiho

 

-

Visti Larsen

sjvc

Friday, April 26, 2002 1:53 PM

Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani

Vyam Vysadevaya Namah

---------------------------

Dear Ash,

Brilliant!

Best wishes, Visti.

-

ashsam73

sjvc

Thursday, April 25, 2002 10:49 PM

[sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani

Dear Suresh,When Shani is transitting the 12th, 1st and 2nd house it is called

Sade Sati or 7.5 years that Shani takes to transit these house.Now Check the AV

strength of Shani. If it has less than 3 bindus and if any planet is giving 0

points in Sarvashatakavarga table for the 12th house then the effect of shani

will be felt very severely. Lower the bindu of shani the higher the effect

will be. The reason for this is that that for eg. if Shani has 1 bindu in AV,

it means that only 1 planet or lagna is helping it so the other planets are

not favouring shani (or opposing its natural tendencies to delay or depart a

person) hence in the significance of that planet shani cant cause havoc. If

shani has 3 bindus or greater the effect will be felt but it will be way better

that shani having 1 bindu.Check the strenght of shani for its results. As you

know that the natural tendency of Shani is to delay matters, so apply yourself

for the other houses. In the 8th house it is in the house of longetivity for

lagna, so depending on the strength of Shani, lagna etc it may cause problems.

4th house is that of Sukha sthan and Shani in 4th can delay or deny or depart

the signifhcance of 4th house etc etc....All results are to be studied from

Moon, Sun and Lagna, (Mind, Spirit and Physical Body).Hope that helps,Cheers

!!!Ashsjvc, suresh sivan <sureshshiv1960> wrote:> > Pranam

Gurudev,> I read in one article regarding aspect of Sani that> "When sani

resides in 12th, 1st and 2nd house it is 7 1/2 Sani, when in the fourth house

its Arthastama Sani, When in the 8th house it is Asthama Sani. So I wish to

know whether these houses are calculated from Lagna or Moon rasi? and What is

the effect of 7 1/2 Sani and Khandaka Sani?> I expect reply from you,> Suresh>

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Om Namo Naraayanaya

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Dear ~Jaiho,

They had Sade Sathi in the other Yugas as well.

Why are you waiting for Kalki, when he's right there in front of you.. go to

him; Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya

 

Best wishes, Visti.

-

Shashank Gupta

sjvc

Saturday, April 27, 2002 1:01 PM

Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani

Dear Visti,

 

because transits are to be seen from moon and sade sathi is transit phenomenon

of saturn........i guess sade sathi is to be seen only from moon.......

 

lets say moon is 4th house for a particular person..........and he is running

sade sathi (seeing from lagna)......as soon as sade sathi ends .....another

71/2 cycle of saturn will start (now from moon)..............15 years of

continous suffering.......then we have kanataka sani both from moon and lagna

............when will this suffering end ..........it means transit of saturn is

always bad..........only god can save us from saturn........as sanjay ji pointed

out in his previous mail ......this is KALI yug ........we have to

suffer.......eagerly waiting for last *avatar* of lord vishnu.......only he can

save us

 

regards,

~Jaiho

-

Visti Larsen

sjvc

Saturday, April 27, 2002 3:50 PM

Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani

Om Namo Naraayanaya

-----------------

Dear ~Jaiho,

See Sade Sathi from Lagna and Moon.. these will have more bearing on the person in this life.

 

Same with Kanataka Sani.

 

Very rarely do we respond to the Sade Sathi on the Sun.

 

Study the Solar & Lunar Yogas given by Parasara, and other authors.

Best wishes, Visti.

-

Shashank Gupta

sjvc

Friday, April 26, 2002 8:48 PM

Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani

Dear Visti and Ash,

 

Explanation given by Ash is brilliant but he says --

 

"All results are to be studied from Moon, Sun and Lagna, (Mind, Spirit and Physical Body"

 

I have been taught that sade sati is to be seen from Moon only. Checking it from

moon, sun and lagna will make life difficult for natives who have sun and moon

in different houses but not in lagna.

 

pls clarify.

 

~Jaiho

 

-

Visti Larsen

sjvc

Friday, April 26, 2002 1:53 PM

Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani

Vyam Vysadevaya Namah

---------------------------

Dear Ash,

Brilliant!

Best wishes, Visti.

-

ashsam73

sjvc

Thursday, April 25, 2002 10:49 PM

[sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani

Dear Suresh,When Shani is transitting the 12th, 1st and 2nd house it is called

Sade Sati or 7.5 years that Shani takes to transit these house.Now Check the AV

strength of Shani. If it has less than 3 bindus and if any planet is giving 0

points in Sarvashatakavarga table for the 12th house then the effect of shani

will be felt very severely. Lower the bindu of shani the higher the effect

will be. The reason for this is that that for eg. if Shani has 1 bindu in AV,

it means that only 1 planet or lagna is helping it so the other planets are

not favouring shani (or opposing its natural tendencies to delay or depart a

person) hence in the significance of that planet shani cant cause havoc. If

shani has 3 bindus or greater the effect will be felt but it will be way better

that shani having 1 bindu.Check the strenght of shani for its results. As you

know that the natural tendency of Shani is to delay matters, so apply yourself

for the other houses. In the 8th house it is in the house of longetivity for

lagna, so depending on the strength of Shani, lagna etc it may cause problems.

4th house is that of Sukha sthan and Shani in 4th can delay or deny or depart

the signifhcance of 4th house etc etc....All results are to be studied from

Moon, Sun and Lagna, (Mind, Spirit and Physical Body).Hope that helps,Cheers

!!!Ashsjvc, suresh sivan <sureshshiv1960> wrote:> > Pranam

Gurudev,> I read in one article regarding aspect of Sani that> "When sani

resides in 12th, 1st and 2nd house it is 7 1/2 Sani, when in the fourth house

its Arthastama Sani, When in the 8th house it is Asthama Sani. So I wish to

know whether these houses are calculated from Lagna or Moon rasi? and What is

the effect of 7 1/2 Sani and Khandaka Sani?> I expect reply from you,> Suresh>

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Dear Shashank,

 

Shani by its nature is Malefic, and cause delays in events.

Sometimes Aspect of Shani may not be bad, as it can even Delay Death.

Shani can also be a great blessing.

Shani tends to delay matters by its Graha Dristi. Let us take Shani

in 12th. Shani in 12th aspects 2nd house (wealth, family etc), 6th

house (individuality, status, etc) and 9th house (luck, father, etc)

When Shani transits 12th house then Matters regarding these are

delayed.

When we consider aspect of Sade Sati over moon sign we are seeing

its effect on Mana and how mana reacts to the delays, pressures

etc. Also check for the 6th house and Lagna strength to see how the

native reacts and how strong is his individuality to face those

problems. Everything is inter related. If a person does not have

the strenght to face the problems.. then he may attempt suicide etc,

but if a person is strong and strong willed person then he will take

it in his stride, learn from the experience and will be a better

person in the long run. I guess that is why they say that Shani is

the greatest teacher.

I said check the events from Sun that is what I was trying to get at

to check the spirit of the person and from langa was how physical

body reacts.

 

There was in interesting anicdote that I had read somewhere.

"When there is a storm, some people run and take shelter, whereas

some build a windmill".

 

On the Same grounds, Do people not get married during Sade Sati, or

get job promotions or have children ? If they do then there is much

more to just the transit of Saturn over 12th, 1st and 2nd house.

 

Ponder over this, and I shall do the same and when I have some

information on the same I will write more.

 

These were just my thoughts.

 

If I have caused any confusion, then I am sorry for the same.

 

Thanking you,

Cheers !!!

Ash

 

 

 

 

sjvc, "Shashank Gupta" <shashankmail@s...> wrote:

> Dear Visti,

>

> because transits are to be seen from moon and sade sathi is

transit phenomenon of saturn........i guess sade sathi is to be seen

only from moon.......

>

> lets say moon is 4th house for a particular person..........and he

is running sade sathi (seeing from lagna)......as soon as sade sathi

ends .....another 71/2 cycle of saturn will start (now from

moon)..............15 years of continous suffering.......then we

have kanataka sani both from moon and lagna ...........when will

this suffering end ..........it means transit of saturn is always

bad..........only god can save us from saturn........as sanjay ji

pointed out in his previous mail ......this is KALI yug ........we

have to suffer.......eagerly waiting for last *avatar* of lord

vishnu.......only he can save us

>

> regards,

> ~Jaiho

> -

> Visti Larsen

> sjvc

> Saturday, April 27, 2002 3:50 PM

> Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani

>

>

> Om Namo Naraayanaya

> -----------------

> Dear ~Jaiho,

> See Sade Sathi from Lagna and Moon.. these will have more

bearing on the person in this life.

>

> Same with Kanataka Sani.

>

> Very rarely do we respond to the Sade Sathi on the Sun.

>

> Study the Solar & Lunar Yogas given by Parasara, and other

authors.

> Best wishes, Visti.

> -

> Shashank Gupta

> sjvc

> Friday, April 26, 2002 8:48 PM

> Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani

>

>

> Dear Visti and Ash,

>

> Explanation given by Ash is brilliant but he says --

>

> "All results are to be studied from Moon, Sun and Lagna,

(Mind, Spirit

> and Physical Body"

>

> I have been taught that sade sati is to be seen from Moon

only. Checking it from moon, sun and lagna will make life difficult

for natives who have sun and moon in different houses but not in

lagna.

>

> pls clarify.

>

> ~Jaiho

>

> -

> Visti Larsen

> sjvc

> Friday, April 26, 2002 1:53 PM

> Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani

>

>

> Vyam Vysadevaya Namah

> ---------------------------

> Dear Ash,

> Brilliant!

> Best wishes, Visti.

> -

> ashsam73

> sjvc

> Thursday, April 25, 2002 10:49 PM

> [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani

>

>

> Dear Suresh,

>

> When Shani is transitting the 12th, 1st and 2nd house it

is called

> Sade Sati or 7.5 years that Shani takes to transit these

house.

> Now Check the AV strength of Shani. If it has less than 3

bindus and

> if any planet is giving 0 points in Sarvashatakavarga

table for the

> 12th house then the effect of shani will be felt very

severely.

> Lower the bindu of shani the higher the effect will be.

The reason

> for this is that that for eg. if Shani has 1 bindu in AV,

it means

> that only 1 planet or lagna is helping it so the other

planets are

> not favouring shani (or opposing its natural tendencies to

delay or

> depart a person) hence in the significance of that planet

shani cant

> cause havoc. If shani has 3 bindus or greater the effect

will be

> felt but it will be way better that shani having 1 bindu.

> Check the strenght of shani for its results.

>

> As you know that the natural tendency of Shani is to delay

matters,

> so apply yourself for the other houses. In the 8th house

it is in

> the house of longetivity for lagna, so depending on the

strength of

> Shani, lagna etc it may cause problems. 4th house is that

of Sukha

> sthan and Shani in 4th can delay or deny or depart the

signifhcance

> of 4th house etc etc....

>

> All results are to be studied from Moon, Sun and Lagna,

(Mind, Spirit

> and Physical Body).

>

>

> Hope that helps,

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash

>

> sjvc, suresh sivan <sureshshiv1960> wrote:

> >

> > Pranam Gurudev,

> > I read in one article regarding aspect of Sani that

> > "When sani resides in 12th, 1st and 2nd house it is 7

1/2 Sani,

> when in the fourth house its Arthastama Sani, When in the

8th house

> it is Asthama Sani. So I wish to know whether these

houses are

> calculated from Lagna or Moon rasi? and What is the effect

of 7 1/2

> Sani and Khandaka Sani?

> > I expect reply from you,

> > Suresh

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The original query was arasied by me.

I was favoured with your answers and while thanking you both for enlightening me

with the information on sade sati and kandaka sani, one more doubt is remaining

still " you told that all results are to be studied from moon, sun and lagna as

well", it is giving me little bit confusion.

Would you please advise me whether houses are to be counted from Moon or Lagna.

Because I saw so many articles and monthly predction os various astrologers in

India they they are calculating the sade sathi and kandaka sani from moon rasi.

So in this for example: My younger daughter is born in 02-05-1995 at 7.45 am in

Trichur, Kerala state India. Her moon rasi is Taurus as well as Lagna placed in

Taurus. So according to your information whether is affected by sada sati?.

Even in my case my moon rasi is Aquarius (DOB 16-4-1960, at 3.37 pm at

palakkad, kerala India) so I am too affected by Kandaka sani? since Sani is

residing in Taurus till coming 23rd July.

Would please give me more details. I am very interested to know more about this.

If my findings are wrong please correct me.

Also if you could advise me suitable mantra or astrological remedy to get rid of

the evil effect of theise Sade sati and Kandaka sani.

Thanks and regards,

Suresh

 

Visti Larsen <vlarsen (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Om Namo Naraayanaya

-----------------

Dear ~Jaiho,

They had Sade Sathi in the other Yugas as well.

Why are you waiting for Kalki, when he's right there in front of you.. go to

him; Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya

 

Best wishes, Visti.

-

Shashank Gupta

sjvc

Saturday, April 27, 2002 1:01 PM

Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani

Dear Visti,

 

because transits are to be seen from moon and sade sathi is transit phenomenon

of saturn........i guess sade sathi is to be seen only from moon.......

 

lets say moon is 4th house for a particular person..........and he is running

sade sathi (seeing from lagna)......as soon as sade sathi ends .....another

71/2 cycle of saturn will start (now from moon)..............15 years of

continous suffering.......then we have kanataka sani both from moon and lagna

............when will this suffering end ..........it means transit of saturn is

always bad..........only god can save us from saturn........as sanjay ji pointed

out in his previous mail ......this is KALI yug ........we have to

suffer.......eagerly waiting for last *avatar* of lord vishnu.......only he can

save us

 

regards,

~Jaiho

-

Visti Larsen

sjvc

Saturday, April 27, 2002 3:50 PM

Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani

Om Namo Naraayanaya

-----------------

Dear ~Jaiho,

See Sade Sathi from Lagna and Moon.. these will have more bearing on the person in this life.

 

Same with Kanataka Sani.

 

Very rarely do we respond to the Sade Sathi on the Sun.

 

Study the Solar & Lunar Yogas given by Parasara, and other authors.

Best wishes, Visti.

-

Shashank Gupta

sjvc

Friday, April 26, 2002 8:48 PM

Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani

Dear Visti and Ash,

 

Explanation given by Ash is brilliant but he says --

 

"All results are to be studied from Moon, Sun and Lagna, (Mind, Spirit and Physical Body"

 

I have been taught that sade sati is to be seen from Moon only. Checking it from

moon, sun and lagna will make life difficult for natives who have sun and moon

in different houses but not in lagna.

 

pls clarify.

 

~Jaiho

 

-

Visti Larsen

sjvc

Friday, April 26, 2002 1:53 PM

Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani

Vyam Vysadevaya Namah

---------------------------

Dear Ash,

Brilliant!

Best wishes, Visti.

-

ashsam73

sjvc

Thursday, April 25, 2002 10:49 PM

[sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani

Dear Suresh,When Shani is transitting the 12th, 1st and 2nd house it is called

Sade Sati or 7.5 years that Shani takes to transit these house.Now Check the AV

strength of Shani. If it has less than 3 bindus and if any planet is giving 0

points in Sarvashatakavarga table for the 12th house then the effect of shani

will be felt very severely. Lower the bindu of shani the higher the effect

will be. The reason for this is that that for eg. if Shani has 1 bindu in AV,

it means that only 1 planet or lagna is helping it so the other planets are

not favouring shani (or opposing its natural tendencies to delay or depart a

person) hence in the significance of that planet shani cant cause havoc. If

shani has 3 bindus or greater the effect will be felt but it will be way better

that shani having 1 bindu.Check the strenght of shani for its results. As you

know that the natural tendency of Shani is to delay matters, so apply yourself

for the other houses. In the 8th house it is in the house of longetivity for

lagna, so depending on the strength of Shani, lagna etc it may cause problems.

4th house is that of Sukha sthan and Shani in 4th can delay or deny or depart

the signifhcance of 4th house etc etc....All results are to be studied from

Moon, Sun and Lagna, (Mind, Spirit and Physical Body).Hope that helps,Cheers

!!!Ashsjvc, suresh sivan <sureshshiv1960> wrote:> > Pranam

Gurudev,> I read in one article regarding aspect of Sani that> "When sani

resides in 12th, 1st and 2nd house it is 7 1/2 Sani, when in the fourth house

its Arthastama Sani, When in the 8th house it is Asthama Sani. So I wish to

know whether these houses are calculated from Lagna or Moon rasi? and What is

the effect of 7 1/2 Sani and Khandaka Sani?> I expect reply from you,> Suresh>

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Please do not feel that you have made any confusion to any one. Every body is

sharing there knowledge. I was really happy to get your answer and I look

forward to the information / advise on this query from you and visti as well.

I wish to get your advise and answer for my doubts which I posted today just

while ago to you, to Visti and to the group aswell. I hope you will not

refrain from giving information and advise. thanks once again,

I remain,

Sincerely Yours

SURESH

 

ashsam73 <ashsam73 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote: Dear Shashank,Shani by its nature is

Malefic, and cause delays in events. Sometimes Aspect of Shani may not be bad,

as it can even Delay Death.Shani can also be a great blessing.Shani tends to

delay matters by its Graha Dristi. Let us take Shani in 12th. Shani in 12th

aspects 2nd house (wealth, family etc), 6th house (individuality, status, etc)

and 9th house (luck, father, etc)When Shani transits 12th house then Matters

regarding these are delayed. When we consider aspect of Sade Sati over moon

sign we are seeing its effect on Mana and how mana reacts to the delays,

pressures etc. Also check for the 6th house and Lagna strength to see how the

native reacts and how strong is his individuality to face those problems.

Everything is inter related. If a person does not have the strenght to face the

problems.. then he may attempt suicide etc, but if a person is strong and strong

willed person then he will take it in his stride, learn from the experience and

will be a better person in the long run. I guess that is why they say that

Shani is the greatest teacher. I said check the events from Sun that is what I

was trying to get at to check the spirit of the person and from langa was how

physical body reacts. There was in interesting anicdote that I had read

somewhere."When there is a storm, some people run and take shelter, whereas

some build a windmill".On the Same grounds, Do people not get married during

Sade Sati, or get job promotions or have children ? If they do then there is

much more to just the transit of Saturn over 12th, 1st and 2nd house.Ponder

over this, and I shall do the same and when I have some information on the same

I will write more. These were just my thoughts.If I have caused any confusion,

then I am sorry for the same.Thanking you,Cheers !!!Ashsjvc,

"Shashank Gupta" wrote:> Dear Visti,> > because transits are to be seen from

moon and sade sathi is transit phenomenon of saturn........i guess sade sathi

is to be seen only from moon.......> > lets say moon is 4th house for a

particular person..........and he is running sade sathi (seeing from

lagna)......as soon as sade sathi ends .....another 71/2 cycle of saturn will

start (now from moon)..............15 years of continous suffering.......then

we have kanataka sani both from moon and lagna ...........when will this

suffering end ..........it means transit of saturn is always bad..........only

god can save us from saturn........as sanjay ji pointed out in his previous

mail ......this is KALI yug ........we have to suffer.......eagerly waiting for

last *avatar* of lord vishnu.......only he can save us> > regards,> ~Jaiho>

- > Visti Larsen > sjvc > Sent:

Saturday, April 27, 2002 3:50 PM> Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2

Sani & Kandaka sani> > > Om Namo Naraayanaya>

-----------------> Dear ~Jaiho,> See Sade

Sathi from Lagna and Moon.. these will have more bearing on the person in this

life. > > Same with Kanataka Sani.> > Very rarely do we respond to the Sade

Sathi on the Sun.> > Study the Solar & Lunar Yogas given by Parasara, and other

authors.> Best wishes, Visti.> - > Shashank

Gupta > sjvc > Friday, April 26, 2002 8:48 PM> Re:

[sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani> > > Dear Visti and Ash,> >

Explanation given by Ash is brilliant but he says --> > "All results are to be

studied from Moon, Sun and Lagna, (Mind, Spirit > and Physical Body"> > I have

been taught that sade sati is to be seen from Moon only. Checking it from moon,

sun and lagna will make life difficult for natives who have sun and moon in

different houses but not in lagna. > > pls clarify.> > ~Jaiho> > ----- Original

Message ----- > Visti Larsen > sjvc > Friday, April 26,

2002 1:53 PM> Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani> >

> Vyam Vysadevaya Namah>

---------------------------> Dear Ash,>

Brilliant!> Best wishes, Visti.> - > ashsam73

> sjvc > Thursday, April 25, 2002 10:49 PM> [sjvc] Re:

query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani> > > Dear Suresh,> > When Shani is

transitting the 12th, 1st and 2nd house it is called > Sade Sati or 7.5 years

that Shani takes to transit these house.> Now Check the AV strength of Shani.

If it has less than 3 bindus and > if any planet is giving 0 points in

Sarvashatakavarga table for the > 12th house then the effect of shani will be

felt very severely. > Lower the bindu of shani the higher the effect will be.

The reason > for this is that that for eg. if Shani has 1 bindu in AV, it means

> that only 1 planet or lagna is helping it so the other planets are > not

favouring shani (or opposing its natural tendencies to delay or > depart a

person) hence in the significance of that planet shani cant > cause havoc. If

shani has 3 bindus or greater the effect will be > felt but it will be way

better that shani having 1 bindu.> Check the strenght of shani for its results.

> > As you know that the natural tendency of Shani is to delay matters, > so

apply yourself for the other houses. In the 8th house it is in > the house of

longetivity for lagna, so depending on the strength of > Shani, lagna etc it

may cause problems. 4th house is that of Sukha > sthan and Shani in 4th can

delay or deny or depart the signifhcance > of 4th house etc etc....> > All

results are to be studied from Moon, Sun and Lagna, (Mind, Spirit > and

Physical Body).> > > Hope that helps,> > Cheers !!!> Ash> > sjvc,

suresh sivan wrote:> > > > Pranam Gurudev,> > I read in one article regarding

aspect of Sani that> > "When sani resides in 12th, 1st and 2nd house it is 7

1/2 Sani, > when in the fourth house its Arthastama Sani, When in the 8th house

> it is Asthama Sani. So I wish to know whether these houses are > calculated

from Lagna or Moon rasi? and What is the effect of 7 1/2 > Sani and Khandaka

Sani?> > I expect reply from you,> > Suresh> > > > > >

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Namasthe all and Ash

 

Hope this will help you in your analysis. In fact I

got married in my 7 1/2 years Sani and incidentally my

wife was also running 7 1/2 years. She is just 2 1/2

years behind me as mine is Kumbha rasi and her's Meena

rasi.

 

Let me know if you need further information or charts

for your analysis.

 

Regards

Saikumar

--- suresh sivan <sureshshiv1960 wrote:

>

> Dear ash,

> Please do not feel that you have made any confusion

> to any one. Every body is sharing there knowledge.

> I was really happy to get your answer and I look

> forward to the information / advise on this query

> from you and visti as well. I wish to get your

> advise and answer for my doubts which I posted

> today just while ago to you, to Visti and to the

> group aswell. I hope you will not refrain from

> giving information and advise. thanks once again,

> I remain,

> Sincerely Yours

> SURESH

>

> ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: Dear

> Shashank,

>

> Shani by its nature is Malefic, and cause delays in

> events.

> Sometimes Aspect of Shani may not be bad, as it can

> even Delay Death.

> Shani can also be a great blessing.

> Shani tends to delay matters by its Graha Dristi.

> Let us take Shani

> in 12th. Shani in 12th aspects 2nd house (wealth,

> family etc), 6th

> house (individuality, status, etc) and 9th house

> (luck, father, etc)

> When Shani transits 12th house then Matters

> regarding these are

> delayed.

> When we consider aspect of Sade Sati over moon sign

> we are seeing

> its effect on Mana and how mana reacts to the

> delays, pressures

> etc. Also check for the 6th house and Lagna strength

> to see how the

> native reacts and how strong is his individuality to

> face those

> problems. Everything is inter related. If a person

> does not have

> the strenght to face the problems.. then he may

> attempt suicide etc,

> but if a person is strong and strong willed person

> then he will take

> it in his stride, learn from the experience and will

> be a better

> person in the long run. I guess that is why they say

> that Shani is

> the greatest teacher.

> I said check the events from Sun that is what I was

> trying to get at

> to check the spirit of the person and from langa was

> how physical

> body reacts.

>

> There was in interesting anicdote that I had read

> somewhere.

> "When there is a storm, some people run and take

> shelter, whereas

> some build a windmill".

>

> On the Same grounds, Do people not get married

> during Sade Sati, or

> get job promotions or have children ? If they do

> then there is much

> more to just the transit of Saturn over 12th, 1st

> and 2nd house.

>

> Ponder over this, and I shall do the same and when I

> have some

> information on the same I will write more.

>

> These were just my thoughts.

>

> If I have caused any confusion, then I am sorry for

> the same.

>

> Thanking you,

> Cheers !!!

> Ash

>

>

>

>

> sjvc, "Shashank Gupta" wrote:

> > Dear Visti,

> >

> > because transits are to be seen from moon and sade

> sathi is

> transit phenomenon of saturn........i guess sade

> sathi is to be seen

> only from moon.......

> >

> > lets say moon is 4th house for a particular

> person..........and he

> is running sade sathi (seeing from lagna)......as

> soon as sade sathi

> ends .....another 71/2 cycle of saturn will start

> (now from

> moon)..............15 years of continous

> suffering.......then we

> have kanataka sani both from moon and lagna

> ...........when will

> this suffering end ..........it means transit of

> saturn is always

> bad..........only god can save us from

> saturn........as sanjay ji

> pointed out in his previous mail ......this is KALI

> yug ........we

> have to suffer.......eagerly waiting for last

> *avatar* of lord

> vishnu.......only he can save us

> >

> > regards,

> > ~Jaiho

> > -

> > Visti Larsen

> > sjvc

> > Saturday, April 27, 2002 3:50 PM

> > Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani &

> Kandaka sani

> >

> >

> > Om Namo Naraayanaya

> > -----------------

> > Dear ~Jaiho,

> > See Sade Sathi from Lagna and Moon.. these will

> have more

> bearing on the person in this life.

> >

> > Same with Kanataka Sani.

> >

> > Very rarely do we respond to the Sade Sathi on the

> Sun.

> >

> > Study the Solar & Lunar Yogas given by Parasara,

> and other

> authors.

> > Best wishes, Visti.

> > -

> > Shashank Gupta

> > sjvc

> > Friday, April 26, 2002 8:48 PM

> > Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani &

> Kandaka sani

> >

> >

> > Dear Visti and Ash,

> >

> > Explanation given by Ash is brilliant but he says

> --

> >

> > "All results are to be studied from Moon, Sun and

> Lagna,

> (Mind, Spirit

> > and Physical Body"

> >

> > I have been taught that sade sati is to be seen

> from Moon

> only. Checking it from moon, sun and lagna will make

> life difficult

> for natives who have sun and moon in different

> houses but not in

> lagna.

> >

> > pls clarify.

> >

> > ~Jaiho

> >

> > -

> > Visti Larsen

> > sjvc

> > Friday, April 26, 2002 1:53 PM

> > Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani &

> Kandaka sani

> >

> >

> > Vyam Vysadevaya Namah

> >

>

---------------------------

> > Dear Ash,

> > Brilliant!

> > Best wishes, Visti.

> > -

> > ashsam73

> > sjvc

> > Thursday, April 25, 2002 10:49 PM

> > [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani &

> Kandaka sani

> >

> >

> > Dear Suresh,

> >

> > When Shani is transitting the 12th, 1st and 2nd

> house it

> is called

> > Sade Sati or 7.5 years that Shani takes to transit

> these

> house.

>

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Dear Suresh,

 

Gurudev has clarified this in his email to Shashank.

Here it is.

 

sjvc/message/2514

 

That should clear all doubts.

 

Thanks,

Cheers !!!

Ash

 

 

 

 

sjvc, suresh sivan <sureshshiv1960> wrote:

>

> Dear Visti & Ash,

> The original query was arasied by me.

> I was favoured with your answers and while thanking you both for

enlightening me with the information on sade sati and kandaka sani,

one more doubt is remaining still " you told that all results are to

be studied from moon, sun and lagna as well", it is giving me little

bit confusion.

> Would you please advise me whether houses are to be counted from

Moon or Lagna. Because I saw so many articles and monthly predction

os various astrologers in India they they are calculating the sade

sathi and kandaka sani from moon rasi. So in this for example: My

younger daughter is born in 02-05-1995 at 7.45 am in Trichur, Kerala

state India. Her moon rasi is Taurus as well as Lagna placed in

Taurus. So according to your information whether is affected by

sada sati?. Even in my case my moon rasi is Aquarius (DOB 16-4-

1960, at 3.37 pm at palakkad, kerala India) so I am too affected by

Kandaka sani? since Sani is residing in Taurus till coming 23rd July.

> Would please give me more details. I am very interested to know

more about this.

> If my findings are wrong please correct me.

> Also if you could advise me suitable mantra or astrological remedy

to get rid of the evil effect of theise Sade sati and Kandaka sani.

> Thanks and regards,

> Suresh

>

> Visti Larsen <vlarsen@h...> wrote: Om Namo Naraayanaya-----------

------Dear ~Jaiho,They had Sade

Sathi in the other Yugas as well.Why are you waiting for Kalki, when

he's right there in front of you.. go to him; Om Namo Bhagavate

Vasudevaya Best wishes, Visti.-

Shashank Gupta sjvc Saturday, April 27, 2002 1:01

PMRe: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani

> Dear Visti, because transits are to be seen from moon and sade

sathi is transit phenomenon of saturn........i guess sade sathi is

to be seen only from moon....... lets say moon is 4th house for a

particular person..........and he is running sade sathi (seeing from

lagna)......as soon as sade sathi ends .....another 71/2 cycle of

saturn will start (now from moon)..............15 years of continous

suffering.......then we have kanataka sani both from moon and

lagna ...........when will this suffering end ..........it means

transit of saturn is always bad..........only god can save us from

saturn........as sanjay ji pointed out in his previous

mail ......this is KALI yug ........we have to suffer.......eagerly

waiting for last *avatar* of lord vishnu.......only he can save us

regards,~Jaiho- Visti Larsen To:

sjvc Saturday, April 27, 2002 3:50 PMRe: [sjvc]

Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani

> Om Namo Naraayanaya---------------

--Dear ~Jaiho,See Sade Sathi from Lagna and Moon.. these will have

more bearing on the person in this life. Same with Kanataka Sani.

Very rarely do we respond to the Sade Sathi on the Sun. Study the

Solar & Lunar Yogas given by Parasara, and other authors.Best

wishes, Visti.- Shashank Gupta To:

sjvc Friday, April 26, 2002 8:48 PMRe: [sjvc]

Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani

> Dear Visti and Ash, Explanation given by Ash is brilliant but he

says -- "All results are to be studied from Moon, Sun and Lagna,

(Mind, Spirit

> and Physical Body" I have been taught that sade sati is to be seen

from Moon only. Checking it from moon, sun and lagna will make life

difficult for natives who have sun and moon in different houses but

not in lagna. pls clarify. ~Jaiho -

Visti Larsen sjvc Friday, April 26, 2002 1:53

PMRe: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani

> Vyam Vysadevaya Namah-------------

--------------Dear Ash,Brilliant!Best wishes, Visti.----- Original

Message ----- ashsam73 sjvc Thursday, April 25,

2002 10:49 PM[sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka

sani

> Dear Suresh,

>

> When Shani is transitting the 12th, 1st and 2nd house it is called

> Sade Sati or 7.5 years that Shani takes to transit these house.

> Now Check the AV strength of Shani. If it has less than 3 bindus

and

> if any planet is giving 0 points in Sarvashatakavarga table for

the

> 12th house then the effect of shani will be felt very severely.

> Lower the bindu of shani the higher the effect will be. The

reason

> for this is that that for eg. if Shani has 1 bindu in AV, it means

> that only 1 planet or lagna is helping it so the other planets

are

> not favouring shani (or opposing its natural tendencies to delay

or

> depart a person) hence in the significance of that planet shani

cant

> cause havoc. If shani has 3 bindus or greater the effect will be

> felt but it will be way better that shani having 1 bindu.

> Check the strenght of shani for its results.

>

> As you know that the natural tendency of Shani is to delay

matters,

> so apply yourself for the other houses. In the 8th house it is in

> the house of longetivity for lagna, so depending on the strength

of

> Shani, lagna etc it may cause problems. 4th house is that of

Sukha

> sthan and Shani in 4th can delay or deny or depart the

signifhcance

> of 4th house etc etc....

>

> All results are to be studied from Moon, Sun and Lagna, (Mind,

Spirit

> and Physical Body).

>

>

> Hope that helps,

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash

>

> sjvc, suresh sivan <sureshshiv1960> wrote:

> >

> > Pranam Gurudev,

> > I read in one article regarding aspect of Sani that

> > "When sani resides in 12th, 1st and 2nd house it is 7 1/2 Sani,

> when in the fourth house its Arthastama Sani, When in the 8th

house

> it is Asthama Sani. So I wish to know whether these houses are

> calculated from Lagna or Moon rasi? and What is the effect of 7

1/2

> Sani and Khandaka Sani?

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> > Suresh

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Thanks alot for your explanation. Thats the answer i was looking for.

 

Regards,

~Shashank (Jaiho)

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Saturday, April 27, 2002 8:59 AM

Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani

 

Om Gurave Namah------------------------Dear Shashank

Agree - it should be Lagna & Arudha Lagna as well as the Moon. In fact transit

Saturn is vital for all predictions. Sade sati is bad in 12, 1 & 2 from natal

Moon, whereas it is bad only in 1 from Lagna and AL. It is terrible in AL.Best

Regards,Sanjay RathWeb: http://sanjayrath.tripod.com

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Saturday, April 27, 2002 12:18 AM

Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani

Dear Visti and Ash,

 

Explanation given by Ash is brilliant but he says --

 

"All results are to be studied from Moon, Sun and Lagna, (Mind, Spirit and Physical Body"

 

I have been taught that sade sati is to be seen from Moon only. Checking it from

moon, sun and lagna will make life difficult for natives who have sun and moon

in different houses but not in lagna.

 

pls clarify.

 

~Jaiho

 

-

Visti Larsen

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Friday, April 26, 2002 1:53 PM

Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani

Vyam Vysadevaya Namah

---------------------------

Dear Ash,

Brilliant!

Best wishes, Visti.

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sjvc

Thursday, April 25, 2002 10:49 PM

[sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani

Dear Suresh,When Shani is transitting the 12th, 1st and 2nd house it is called

Sade Sati or 7.5 years that Shani takes to transit these house.Now Check the AV

strength of Shani. If it has less than 3 bindus and if any planet is giving 0

points in Sarvashatakavarga table for the 12th house then the effect of shani

will be felt very severely. Lower the bindu of shani the higher the effect

will be. The reason for this is that that for eg. if Shani has 1 bindu in AV,

it means that only 1 planet or lagna is helping it so the other planets are

not favouring shani (or opposing its natural tendencies to delay or depart a

person) hence in the significance of that planet shani cant cause havoc. If

shani has 3 bindus or greater the effect will be felt but it will be way better

that shani having 1 bindu.Check the strenght of shani for its results. As you

know that the natural tendency of Shani is to delay matters, so apply yourself

for the other houses. In the 8th house it is in the house of longetivity for

lagna, so depending on the strength of Shani, lagna etc it may cause problems.

4th house is that of Sukha sthan and Shani in 4th can delay or deny or depart

the signifhcance of 4th house etc etc....All results are to be studied from

Moon, Sun and Lagna, (Mind, Spirit and Physical Body).Hope that helps,Cheers

!!!Ashsjvc, suresh sivan <sureshshiv1960> wrote:> > Pranam

Gurudev,> I read in one article regarding aspect of Sani that> "When sani

resides in 12th, 1st and 2nd house it is 7 1/2 Sani, when in the fourth house

its Arthastama Sani, When in the 8th house it is Asthama Sani. So I wish to

know whether these houses are calculated from Lagna or Moon rasi? and What is

the effect of 7 1/2 Sani and Khandaka Sani?> I expect reply from you,> Suresh>

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Dear Ash,

 

i completely agree with you. ......struggle makes person more mature and

cogent in his thoughts but who will like to struggle for whole life

time..........i guess am clear this time.......we dont want saturn

(struggle.......sade sati) to rule our life.

 

~Jaiho

 

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Saturday, April 27, 2002 11:01 PM

[sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani

 

 

> Dear Shashank,

>

> Shani by its nature is Malefic, and cause delays in events.

> Sometimes Aspect of Shani may not be bad, as it can even Delay Death.

> Shani can also be a great blessing.

> Shani tends to delay matters by its Graha Dristi. Let us take Shani

> in 12th. Shani in 12th aspects 2nd house (wealth, family etc), 6th

> house (individuality, status, etc) and 9th house (luck, father, etc)

> When Shani transits 12th house then Matters regarding these are

> delayed.

> When we consider aspect of Sade Sati over moon sign we are seeing

> its effect on Mana and how mana reacts to the delays, pressures

> etc. Also check for the 6th house and Lagna strength to see how the

> native reacts and how strong is his individuality to face those

> problems. Everything is inter related. If a person does not have

> the strenght to face the problems.. then he may attempt suicide etc,

> but if a person is strong and strong willed person then he will take

> it in his stride, learn from the experience and will be a better

> person in the long run. I guess that is why they say that Shani is

> the greatest teacher.

> I said check the events from Sun that is what I was trying to get at

> to check the spirit of the person and from langa was how physical

> body reacts.

>

> There was in interesting anicdote that I had read somewhere.

> "When there is a storm, some people run and take shelter, whereas

> some build a windmill".

>

> On the Same grounds, Do people not get married during Sade Sati, or

> get job promotions or have children ? If they do then there is much

> more to just the transit of Saturn over 12th, 1st and 2nd house.

>

> Ponder over this, and I shall do the same and when I have some

> information on the same I will write more.

>

> These were just my thoughts.

>

> If I have caused any confusion, then I am sorry for the same.

>

> Thanking you,

> Cheers !!!

> Ash

>

>

>

>

> sjvc, "Shashank Gupta" <shashankmail@s...> wrote:

> > Dear Visti,

> >

> > because transits are to be seen from moon and sade sathi is

> transit phenomenon of saturn........i guess sade sathi is to be seen

> only from moon.......

> >

> > lets say moon is 4th house for a particular person..........and he

> is running sade sathi (seeing from lagna)......as soon as sade sathi

> ends .....another 71/2 cycle of saturn will start (now from

> moon)..............15 years of continous suffering.......then we

> have kanataka sani both from moon and lagna ...........when will

> this suffering end ..........it means transit of saturn is always

> bad..........only god can save us from saturn........as sanjay ji

> pointed out in his previous mail ......this is KALI yug ........we

> have to suffer.......eagerly waiting for last *avatar* of lord

> vishnu.......only he can save us

> >

> > regards,

> > ~Jaiho

> > -

> > Visti Larsen

> > sjvc

> > Saturday, April 27, 2002 3:50 PM

> > Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani

> >

> >

> > Om Namo Naraayanaya

> > -----------------

> > Dear ~Jaiho,

> > See Sade Sathi from Lagna and Moon.. these will have more

> bearing on the person in this life.

> >

> > Same with Kanataka Sani.

> >

> > Very rarely do we respond to the Sade Sathi on the Sun.

> >

> > Study the Solar & Lunar Yogas given by Parasara, and other

> authors.

> > Best wishes, Visti.

> > -

> > Shashank Gupta

> > sjvc

> > Friday, April 26, 2002 8:48 PM

> > Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani

> >

> >

> > Dear Visti and Ash,

> >

> > Explanation given by Ash is brilliant but he says --

> >

> > "All results are to be studied from Moon, Sun and Lagna,

> (Mind, Spirit

> > and Physical Body"

> >

> > I have been taught that sade sati is to be seen from Moon

> only. Checking it from moon, sun and lagna will make life difficult

> for natives who have sun and moon in different houses but not in

> lagna.

> >

> > pls clarify.

> >

> > ~Jaiho

> >

> > -

> > Visti Larsen

> > sjvc

> > Friday, April 26, 2002 1:53 PM

> > Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani

> >

> >

> > Vyam Vysadevaya Namah

> > ---------------------------

> > Dear Ash,

> > Brilliant!

> > Best wishes, Visti.

> > -

> > ashsam73

> > sjvc

> > Thursday, April 25, 2002 10:49 PM

> > [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani

> >

> >

> > Dear Suresh,

> >

> > When Shani is transitting the 12th, 1st and 2nd house it

> is called

> > Sade Sati or 7.5 years that Shani takes to transit these

> house.

> > Now Check the AV strength of Shani. If it has less than 3

> bindus and

> > if any planet is giving 0 points in Sarvashatakavarga

> table for the

> > 12th house then the effect of shani will be felt very

> severely.

> > Lower the bindu of shani the higher the effect will be.

> The reason

> > for this is that that for eg. if Shani has 1 bindu in AV,

> it means

> > that only 1 planet or lagna is helping it so the other

> planets are

> > not favouring shani (or opposing its natural tendencies to

> delay or

> > depart a person) hence in the significance of that planet

> shani cant

> > cause havoc. If shani has 3 bindus or greater the effect

> will be

> > felt but it will be way better that shani having 1 bindu.

> > Check the strenght of shani for its results.

> >

> > As you know that the natural tendency of Shani is to delay

> matters,

> > so apply yourself for the other houses. In the 8th house

> it is in

> > the house of longetivity for lagna, so depending on the

> strength of

> > Shani, lagna etc it may cause problems. 4th house is that

> of Sukha

> > sthan and Shani in 4th can delay or deny or depart the

> signifhcance

> > of 4th house etc etc....

> >

> > All results are to be studied from Moon, Sun and Lagna,

> (Mind, Spirit

> > and Physical Body).

> >

> >

> > Hope that helps,

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash

> >

> > sjvc, suresh sivan <sureshshiv1960> wrote:

> > >

> > > Pranam Gurudev,

> > > I read in one article regarding aspect of Sani that

> > > "When sani resides in 12th, 1st and 2nd house it is 7

> 1/2 Sani,

> > when in the fourth house its Arthastama Sani, When in the

> 8th house

> > it is Asthama Sani. So I wish to know whether these

> houses are

> > calculated from Lagna or Moon rasi? and What is the effect

> of 7 1/2

> > Sani and Khandaka Sani?

> > > I expect reply from you,

> > > Suresh

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Dear Visti ji,

 

sorry to say but i dont believe in god........i dont know why i started learning

astrology probably because it fascinated me...........before joining this group

i thought astrology is a science..... our actions, thoughts are maneuvered by

gravitational attraction of planetary bodies but am still trying to find out

the *truth*...........same is the case with vedic remedies .......because one

cant see the other side of picture its hard to analyze whether something

happened naturally or through vedic remedies.....

 

shashank is in search of excellence ( god ??)

 

regards,

~Jaiho

-

Visti Larsen

sjvc

Saturday, April 27, 2002 10:42 PM

Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani

Om Namo Naraayanaya

-----------------

Dear ~Jaiho,

They had Sade Sathi in the other Yugas as well.

Why are you waiting for Kalki, when he's right there in front of you.. go to

him; Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya

 

Best wishes, Visti.

-

Shashank Gupta

sjvc

Saturday, April 27, 2002 1:01 PM

Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani

Dear Visti,

 

because transits are to be seen from moon and sade sathi is transit phenomenon

of saturn........i guess sade sathi is to be seen only from moon.......

 

lets say moon is 4th house for a particular person..........and he is running

sade sathi (seeing from lagna)......as soon as sade sathi ends .....another

71/2 cycle of saturn will start (now from moon)..............15 years of

continous suffering.......then we have kanataka sani both from moon and lagna

............when will this suffering end ..........it means transit of saturn is

always bad..........only god can save us from saturn........as sanjay ji pointed

out in his previous mail ......this is KALI yug ........we have to

suffer.......eagerly waiting for last *avatar* of lord vishnu.......only he can

save us

 

regards,

~Jaiho

-

Visti Larsen

sjvc

Saturday, April 27, 2002 3:50 PM

Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani

Om Namo Naraayanaya

-----------------

Dear ~Jaiho,

See Sade Sathi from Lagna and Moon.. these will have more bearing on the person in this life.

 

Same with Kanataka Sani.

 

Very rarely do we respond to the Sade Sathi on the Sun.

 

Study the Solar & Lunar Yogas given by Parasara, and other authors.

Best wishes, Visti.

-

Shashank Gupta

sjvc

Friday, April 26, 2002 8:48 PM

Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani

Dear Visti and Ash,

 

Explanation given by Ash is brilliant but he says --

 

"All results are to be studied from Moon, Sun and Lagna, (Mind, Spirit and Physical Body"

 

I have been taught that sade sati is to be seen from Moon only. Checking it from

moon, sun and lagna will make life difficult for natives who have sun and moon

in different houses but not in lagna.

 

pls clarify.

 

~Jaiho

 

-

Visti Larsen

sjvc

Friday, April 26, 2002 1:53 PM

Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani

Vyam Vysadevaya Namah

---------------------------

Dear Ash,

Brilliant!

Best wishes, Visti.

-

ashsam73

sjvc

Thursday, April 25, 2002 10:49 PM

[sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani

Dear Suresh,When Shani is transitting the 12th, 1st and 2nd house it is called

Sade Sati or 7.5 years that Shani takes to transit these house.Now Check the AV

strength of Shani. If it has less than 3 bindus and if any planet is giving 0

points in Sarvashatakavarga table for the 12th house then the effect of shani

will be felt very severely. Lower the bindu of shani the higher the effect

will be. The reason for this is that that for eg. if Shani has 1 bindu in AV,

it means that only 1 planet or lagna is helping it so the other planets are

not favouring shani (or opposing its natural tendencies to delay or depart a

person) hence in the significance of that planet shani cant cause havoc. If

shani has 3 bindus or greater the effect will be felt but it will be way better

that shani having 1 bindu.Check the strenght of shani for its results. As you

know that the natural tendency of Shani is to delay matters, so apply yourself

for the other houses. In the 8th house it is in the house of longetivity for

lagna, so depending on the strength of Shani, lagna etc it may cause problems.

4th house is that of Sukha sthan and Shani in 4th can delay or deny or depart

the signifhcance of 4th house etc etc....All results are to be studied from

Moon, Sun and Lagna, (Mind, Spirit and Physical Body).Hope that helps,Cheers

!!!Ashsjvc, suresh sivan <sureshshiv1960> wrote:> > Pranam

Gurudev,> I read in one article regarding aspect of Sani that> "When sani

resides in 12th, 1st and 2nd house it is 7 1/2 Sani, when in the fourth house

its Arthastama Sani, When in the 8th house it is Asthama Sani. So I wish to

know whether these houses are calculated from Lagna or Moon rasi? and What is

the effect of 7 1/2 Sani and Khandaka Sani?> I expect reply from you,> Suresh>

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Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya

---------------------

Dear Shashank,

The Supreme Lord finds great enjoyment, in making us believe, that the universe

was created by nothing, and that we alone are the master of our actions.

 

I will be blunt. If you do not believe in God, then you cannot believe in

astrology. Hence you allready believe in God.

 

Best wishes, Visti.

-

Shashank Gupta

sjvc

Sunday, April 28, 2002 9:41 AM

Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani

Dear Visti ji,

 

sorry to say but i dont believe in god........i dont know why i started learning

astrology probably because it fascinated me...........before joining this group

i thought astrology is a science..... our actions, thoughts are maneuvered by

gravitational attraction of planetary bodies but am still trying to find out

the *truth*...........same is the case with vedic remedies .......because one

cant see the other side of picture its hard to analyze whether something

happened naturally or through vedic remedies.....

 

shashank is in search of excellence ( god ??)

 

regards,

~Jaiho

-

Visti Larsen

sjvc

Saturday, April 27, 2002 10:42 PM

Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani

Om Namo Naraayanaya

-----------------

Dear ~Jaiho,

They had Sade Sathi in the other Yugas as well.

Why are you waiting for Kalki, when he's right there in front of you.. go to

him; Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya

 

Best wishes, Visti.

-

Shashank Gupta

sjvc

Saturday, April 27, 2002 1:01 PM

Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani

Dear Visti,

 

because transits are to be seen from moon and sade sathi is transit phenomenon

of saturn........i guess sade sathi is to be seen only from moon.......

 

lets say moon is 4th house for a particular person..........and he is running

sade sathi (seeing from lagna)......as soon as sade sathi ends .....another

71/2 cycle of saturn will start (now from moon)..............15 years of

continous suffering.......then we have kanataka sani both from moon and lagna

............when will this suffering end ..........it means transit of saturn is

always bad..........only god can save us from saturn........as sanjay ji pointed

out in his previous mail ......this is KALI yug ........we have to

suffer.......eagerly waiting for last *avatar* of lord vishnu.......only he can

save us

 

regards,

~Jaiho

-

Visti Larsen

sjvc

Saturday, April 27, 2002 3:50 PM

Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani

Om Namo Naraayanaya

-----------------

Dear ~Jaiho,

See Sade Sathi from Lagna and Moon.. these will have more bearing on the person in this life.

 

Same with Kanataka Sani.

 

Very rarely do we respond to the Sade Sathi on the Sun.

 

Study the Solar & Lunar Yogas given by Parasara, and other authors.

Best wishes, Visti.

-

Shashank Gupta

sjvc

Friday, April 26, 2002 8:48 PM

Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani

Dear Visti and Ash,

 

Explanation given by Ash is brilliant but he says --

 

"All results are to be studied from Moon, Sun and Lagna, (Mind, Spirit and Physical Body"

 

I have been taught that sade sati is to be seen from Moon only. Checking it from

moon, sun and lagna will make life difficult for natives who have sun and moon

in different houses but not in lagna.

 

pls clarify.

 

~Jaiho

 

-

Visti Larsen

sjvc

Friday, April 26, 2002 1:53 PM

Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani

Vyam Vysadevaya Namah

---------------------------

Dear Ash,

Brilliant!

Best wishes, Visti.

-

ashsam73

sjvc

Thursday, April 25, 2002 10:49 PM

[sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani

Dear Suresh,When Shani is transitting the 12th, 1st and 2nd house it is called

Sade Sati or 7.5 years that Shani takes to transit these house.Now Check the AV

strength of Shani. If it has less than 3 bindus and if any planet is giving 0

points in Sarvashatakavarga table for the 12th house then the effect of shani

will be felt very severely. Lower the bindu of shani the higher the effect

will be. The reason for this is that that for eg. if Shani has 1 bindu in AV,

it means that only 1 planet or lagna is helping it so the other planets are

not favouring shani (or opposing its natural tendencies to delay or depart a

person) hence in the significance of that planet shani cant cause havoc. If

shani has 3 bindus or greater the effect will be felt but it will be way better

that shani having 1 bindu.Check the strenght of shani for its results. As you

know that the natural tendency of Shani is to delay matters, so apply yourself

for the other houses. In the 8th house it is in the house of longetivity for

lagna, so depending on the strength of Shani, lagna etc it may cause problems.

4th house is that of Sukha sthan and Shani in 4th can delay or deny or depart

the signifhcance of 4th house etc etc....All results are to be studied from

Moon, Sun and Lagna, (Mind, Spirit and Physical Body).Hope that helps,Cheers

!!!Ashsjvc, suresh sivan <sureshshiv1960> wrote:> > Pranam

Gurudev,> I read in one article regarding aspect of Sani that> "When sani

resides in 12th, 1st and 2nd house it is 7 1/2 Sani, when in the fourth house

its Arthastama Sani, When in the 8th house it is Asthama Sani. So I wish to

know whether these houses are calculated from Lagna or Moon rasi? and What is

the effect of 7 1/2 Sani and Khandaka Sani?> I expect reply from you,> Suresh>

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Dear Shashank,

I appologise for interveining in your reply to Visti.

Jyotish is a science with intution (Art) and belief. You are

touching on a long debate on fate vs free will. What is written in

the chart v/s what can be changed by our karma during this life

time. And how much ?

If you are a man of science and beleive in science then why is it

that in the charts of so many enginners we have saturn aspect mars

or vice versa ? or why is it that Shani in the 5th house invariably

delays marriage ? If it is aspected by Guru then the delay is

reduced ? If you study further you will notice a trend with

commonolity. Only if you are in the search of the truth and

excellence only then you can go into the root or the moola of things

and then with time who knows you might be able solve the enigma of

the Ananyamsa or so many other facts of jyotish that different

astrologers opine differently and that is purely science.

Its refreshing to know that you do not take things on face value and

are enthusiastic to go into the deapth of things. Thats always an

asset.

 

ps :

1) Could you please confirm that in your chart if your Navamsa lagna

is a saturnian sign or sun or moon are in the navamsa of shani and

also could you check where Moon, Sun and Rasi Lagna are falling in

which sign.

 

Just an instinct.

 

Thanks,

Cheers !!!

Ash

sjvc, "Shashank Gupta" <shashankmail@s...> wrote:

> Dear Visti ji,

>

> sorry to say but i dont believe in god........i dont know why i

started learning astrology probably because it fascinated

me...........before joining this group i thought astrology is a

science..... our actions, thoughts are maneuvered by gravitational

attraction of planetary bodies but am still trying to find out the

*truth*...........same is the case with vedic

remedies .......because one cant see the other side of picture its

hard to analyze whether something happened naturally or through

vedic remedies.....

>

> shashank is in search of excellence ( god ??)

>

> regards,

> ~Jaiho

> -

> Visti Larsen

> sjvc

> Saturday, April 27, 2002 10:42 PM

> Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani

>

>

> Om Namo Naraayanaya

> -----------------

> Dear ~Jaiho,

> They had Sade Sathi in the other Yugas as well.

> Why are you waiting for Kalki, when he's right there in front of

you.. go to him; Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya

>

> Best wishes, Visti.

> -

> Shashank Gupta

> sjvc

> Saturday, April 27, 2002 1:01 PM

> Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani

>

>

> Dear Visti,

>

> because transits are to be seen from moon and sade sathi is

transit phenomenon of saturn........i guess sade sathi is to be seen

only from moon.......

>

> lets say moon is 4th house for a particular

person..........and he is running sade sathi (seeing from

lagna)......as soon as sade sathi ends .....another 71/2 cycle of

saturn will start (now from moon)..............15 years of continous

suffering.......then we have kanataka sani both from moon and

lagna ...........when will this suffering end ..........it means

transit of saturn is always bad..........only god can save us from

saturn........as sanjay ji pointed out in his previous

mail ......this is KALI yug ........we have to suffer.......eagerly

waiting for last *avatar* of lord vishnu.......only he can save us

>

> regards,

> ~Jaiho

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> sjvc

> Saturday, April 27, 2002 3:50 PM

> Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani

>

>

> Om Namo Naraayanaya

> -----------------

> Dear ~Jaiho,

> See Sade Sathi from Lagna and Moon.. these will have more

bearing on the person in this life.

>

> Same with Kanataka Sani.

>

> Very rarely do we respond to the Sade Sathi on the Sun.

>

> Study the Solar & Lunar Yogas given by Parasara, and other

authors.

> Best wishes, Visti.

> -

> Shashank Gupta

> sjvc

> Friday, April 26, 2002 8:48 PM

> Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka

sani

>

>

> Dear Visti and Ash,

>

> Explanation given by Ash is brilliant but he says --

>

> "All results are to be studied from Moon, Sun and Lagna,

(Mind, Spirit

> and Physical Body"

>

> I have been taught that sade sati is to be seen from Moon

only. Checking it from moon, sun and lagna will make life difficult

for natives who have sun and moon in different houses but not in

lagna.

>

> pls clarify.

>

> ~Jaiho

>

> -

> Visti Larsen

> sjvc

> Friday, April 26, 2002 1:53 PM

> Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka

sani

>

>

> Vyam Vysadevaya Namah

> ------------------------

---

> Dear Ash,

> Brilliant!

> Best wishes, Visti.

> -

> ashsam73

> sjvc

> Thursday, April 25, 2002 10:49 PM

> [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka

sani

>

>

> Dear Suresh,

>

> When Shani is transitting the 12th, 1st and 2nd house

it is called

> Sade Sati or 7.5 years that Shani takes to transit

these house.

> Now Check the AV strength of Shani. If it has less

than 3 bindus and

> if any planet is giving 0 points in Sarvashatakavarga

table for the

> 12th house then the effect of shani will be felt very

severely.

> Lower the bindu of shani the higher the effect will

be. The reason

> for this is that that for eg. if Shani has 1 bindu in

AV, it means

> that only 1 planet or lagna is helping it so the

other planets are

> not favouring shani (or opposing its natural

tendencies to delay or

> depart a person) hence in the significance of that

planet shani cant

> cause havoc. If shani has 3 bindus or greater the

effect will be

> felt but it will be way better that shani having 1

bindu.

> Check the strenght of shani for its results.

>

> As you know that the natural tendency of Shani is to

delay matters,

> so apply yourself for the other houses. In the 8th

house it is in

> the house of longetivity for lagna, so depending on

the strength of

> Shani, lagna etc it may cause problems. 4th house is

that of Sukha

> sthan and Shani in 4th can delay or deny or depart the

signifhcance

> of 4th house etc etc....

>

> All results are to be studied from Moon, Sun and

Lagna, (Mind, Spirit

> and Physical Body).

>

>

> Hope that helps,

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash

>

> sjvc, suresh sivan <sureshshiv1960>

wrote:

> >

> > Pranam Gurudev,

> > I read in one article regarding aspect of Sani that

> > "When sani resides in 12th, 1st and 2nd house it is

7 1/2 Sani,

> when in the fourth house its Arthastama Sani, When in

the 8th house

> it is Asthama Sani. So I wish to know whether these

houses are

> calculated from Lagna or Moon rasi? and What is the

effect of 7 1/2

> Sani and Khandaka Sani?

> > I expect reply from you,

> > Suresh

> >

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Dear Shashank,

By general psychology of a human, no one wants to face struggle all

their lives and I absolutely agree with you. On the same token they

want to make their lives more comfortable and this fact I guess goes

thru all Yugas, including Kali. If there was no Shani then there

would not be a challenging environment and we would not evolve

through the times.

A simple anology : When its too hot, humans invented the Air

conditioner. When its too cold, humans invented the heater, so

makeing a long story short, Without Shani we would not evolve.

 

Why are you only looking at Sade Sati. Shani is traversing all 12

signs and is going to put forward challenging conditions in

different aspects of life. The astrologers have given a name for a

subset where it highlights troublesome areas when shani transits

12,1st,2nd houses from moon and 1st house from Lagna and Arudha

lagna. Similarly for Kantaka Shani (Thorn). They have corelated

Kantaka term to show at a glance of the effects of shani when it is

traversing 8th from lagna ?

 

Shashank, Don't be under the impression that Sade Sati is the only

place to watch out Shani's influence and challenge in a chart, he is

there and is traversing through all 12 houses and he has 3 Graha

dristi so just apply yourself and things will get clear.

 

Thaking you for listening,

Cheers !!!

Ash

 

 

sjvc, "Shashank Gupta" <shashankmail@s...> wrote:

> Dear Ash,

>

> i completely agree with you. ......struggle makes person more

mature and

> cogent in his thoughts but who will like to struggle for whole life

> time..........i guess am clear this time.......we dont want saturn

> (struggle.......sade sati) to rule our life.

>

> ~Jaiho

>

> -

> "ashsam73" <ashsam73@h...>

> <sjvc>

> Saturday, April 27, 2002 11:01 PM

> [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani

>

>

> > Dear Shashank,

> >

> > Shani by its nature is Malefic, and cause delays in events.

> > Sometimes Aspect of Shani may not be bad, as it can even Delay

Death.

> > Shani can also be a great blessing.

> > Shani tends to delay matters by its Graha Dristi. Let us take

Shani

> > in 12th. Shani in 12th aspects 2nd house (wealth, family etc),

6th

> > house (individuality, status, etc) and 9th house (luck, father,

etc)

> > When Shani transits 12th house then Matters regarding these are

> > delayed.

> > When we consider aspect of Sade Sati over moon sign we are seeing

> > its effect on Mana and how mana reacts to the delays, pressures

> > etc. Also check for the 6th house and Lagna strength to see how

the

> > native reacts and how strong is his individuality to face those

> > problems. Everything is inter related. If a person does not

have

> > the strenght to face the problems.. then he may attempt suicide

etc,

> > but if a person is strong and strong willed person then he will

take

> > it in his stride, learn from the experience and will be a better

> > person in the long run. I guess that is why they say that Shani

is

> > the greatest teacher.

> > I said check the events from Sun that is what I was trying to

get at

> > to check the spirit of the person and from langa was how physical

> > body reacts.

> >

> > There was in interesting anicdote that I had read somewhere.

> > "When there is a storm, some people run and take shelter, whereas

> > some build a windmill".

> >

> > On the Same grounds, Do people not get married during Sade Sati,

or

> > get job promotions or have children ? If they do then there is

much

> > more to just the transit of Saturn over 12th, 1st and 2nd house.

> >

> > Ponder over this, and I shall do the same and when I have some

> > information on the same I will write more.

> >

> > These were just my thoughts.

> >

> > If I have caused any confusion, then I am sorry for the same.

> >

> > Thanking you,

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > sjvc, "Shashank Gupta" <shashankmail@s...> wrote:

> > > Dear Visti,

> > >

> > > because transits are to be seen from moon and sade sathi is

> > transit phenomenon of saturn........i guess sade sathi is to be

seen

> > only from moon.......

> > >

> > > lets say moon is 4th house for a particular

person..........and he

> > is running sade sathi (seeing from lagna)......as soon as sade

sathi

> > ends .....another 71/2 cycle of saturn will start (now from

> > moon)..............15 years of continous suffering.......then we

> > have kanataka sani both from moon and lagna ...........when will

> > this suffering end ..........it means transit of saturn is always

> > bad..........only god can save us from saturn........as sanjay ji

> > pointed out in his previous mail ......this is KALI

yug ........we

> > have to suffer.......eagerly waiting for last *avatar* of lord

> > vishnu.......only he can save us

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > ~Jaiho

> > > -

> > > Visti Larsen

> > > sjvc

> > > Saturday, April 27, 2002 3:50 PM

> > > Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka sani

> > >

> > >

> > > Om Namo Naraayanaya

> > > -----------------

> > > Dear ~Jaiho,

> > > See Sade Sathi from Lagna and Moon.. these will have more

> > bearing on the person in this life.

> > >

> > > Same with Kanataka Sani.

> > >

> > > Very rarely do we respond to the Sade Sathi on the Sun.

> > >

> > > Study the Solar & Lunar Yogas given by Parasara, and other

> > authors.

> > > Best wishes, Visti.

> > > -

> > > Shashank Gupta

> > > sjvc

> > > Friday, April 26, 2002 8:48 PM

> > > Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka

sani

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Visti and Ash,

> > >

> > > Explanation given by Ash is brilliant but he says --

> > >

> > > "All results are to be studied from Moon, Sun and Lagna,

> > (Mind, Spirit

> > > and Physical Body"

> > >

> > > I have been taught that sade sati is to be seen from Moon

> > only. Checking it from moon, sun and lagna will make life

difficult

> > for natives who have sun and moon in different houses but not in

> > lagna.

> > >

> > > pls clarify.

> > >

> > > ~Jaiho

> > >

> > > -

> > > Visti Larsen

> > > sjvc

> > > Friday, April 26, 2002 1:53 PM

> > > Re: [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka

sani

> > >

> > >

> > > Vyam Vysadevaya Namah

> > > ------------------------

---

> > > Dear Ash,

> > > Brilliant!

> > > Best wishes, Visti.

> > > -

> > > ashsam73

> > > sjvc

> > > Thursday, April 25, 2002 10:49 PM

> > > [sjvc] Re: query about 7 1/2 Sani & Kandaka

sani

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Suresh,

> > >

> > > When Shani is transitting the 12th, 1st and 2nd house

it

> > is called

> > > Sade Sati or 7.5 years that Shani takes to transit

these

> > house.

> > > Now Check the AV strength of Shani. If it has less

than 3

> > bindus and

> > > if any planet is giving 0 points in Sarvashatakavarga

> > table for the

> > > 12th house then the effect of shani will be felt very

> > severely.

> > > Lower the bindu of shani the higher the effect will be.

> > The reason

> > > for this is that that for eg. if Shani has 1 bindu in

AV,

> > it means

> > > that only 1 planet or lagna is helping it so the other

> > planets are

> > > not favouring shani (or opposing its natural

tendencies to

> > delay or

> > > depart a person) hence in the significance of that

planet

> > shani cant

> > > cause havoc. If shani has 3 bindus or greater the

effect

> > will be

> > > felt but it will be way better that shani having 1

bindu.

> > > Check the strenght of shani for its results.

> > >

> > > As you know that the natural tendency of Shani is to

delay

> > matters,

> > > so apply yourself for the other houses. In the 8th

house

> > it is in

> > > the house of longetivity for lagna, so depending on the

> > strength of

> > > Shani, lagna etc it may cause problems. 4th house is

that

> > of Sukha

> > > sthan and Shani in 4th can delay or deny or depart the

> > signifhcance

> > > of 4th house etc etc....

> > >

> > > All results are to be studied from Moon, Sun and Lagna,

> > (Mind, Spirit

> > > and Physical Body).

> > >

> > >

> > > Hope that helps,

> > >

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash

> > >

> > > sjvc, suresh sivan <sureshshiv1960>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Pranam Gurudev,

> > > > I read in one article regarding aspect of Sani that

> > > > "When sani resides in 12th, 1st and 2nd house it is 7

> > 1/2 Sani,

> > > when in the fourth house its Arthastama Sani, When in

the

> > 8th house

> > > it is Asthama Sani. So I wish to know whether these

> > houses are

> > > calculated from Lagna or Moon rasi? and What is the

effect

> > of 7 1/2

> > > Sani and Khandaka Sani?

> > > > I expect reply from you,

> > > > Suresh

> > > >

> > > >

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