Guest guest Posted April 25, 2002 Report Share Posted April 25, 2002 Respected Sanjayji, Pranam. I am sorry that I did not attach the chart of Aswin. I am attaching it here. We could not go in details as the full chart was not available with all the vargas etc. Detailed discussion in the chart will be taken up in the next meeting on 12.05.2002. As instructed, we shall post our detailed attempts to the list for your review and other's comments. Regards jk dasgupta - Sanjay Rath sjvc Wednesday, April 24, 2002 9:22 AM Re: [sjvc] 2nd meeting proceedings, mumbai chapter om gurave namah------------------------Dear Dasgupta and others, When you send such detailed discussions, please attach the jhd file for the chart so that we can se the chart as we read. It is nice to note the progress made, but you need to be more clear about the dasa effects. Aries is a evil sign, but royal and warlike, it is kendra, it is paka lagna and so on. Basics are always missing and you are going into analysis without listing the parameters that control the results. Skipping steps, like working out mathematics equations, will lead to wrong or not fully correct answer. I guess this can be tedious, but Sailesh has always done this well for the Hyderabad group. Why was Nandan absent? Hello Nandan, I hope you are reading this.With best wishesSanjay RathWeb: http://sanjayrath.tripod.comServices: http://sanjayrath.tripod.com/zservices.htmJyotish Digest: http://jyotishdigest.com/SJVC: http://www.sjvc.org/ - j.k. dasgupta sjvc Cc: Dr.M.G.Ramchndani Tuesday, April 23, 2002 4:19 PM Re: [sjvc] 2nd meeting proceedings, mumbai chapter dear katti, namaste. i hope other mumbai members are also seeing these mails. regarding applying ND for aswin's chart i think that for Li main dasa 7th from it should be taken as lagna. i am pasting below an extract from a mail dt. 26.01.02 from visti in answer to some doubts from fayyaz. i am not conversant with interpretations of ND. but this type of discussions is the only way to increase our knowledge. ================= quote: question from Fayyaz: When ND begins from 7th house results are seen from 7th from Dasa rasi. eg:During period of Pisces Rasi we see results taking Virgo as temp Lagna & count all matters such as Lordship of houses, yogas, transits over houses,Ashtakavarga (to see strength of Dasa Rasi& planets), Paka/Bhoga rasis, Deha rasi,Badhaka house.Dusthana houses etc, for the period, from Virgo. Visti: Keep in mind, that its only a temp. Lagna, so lordships Arudhas, and yogas, do not change, only the persons progression through life. unqoute: ================= i am not very sure if as a general case rashi dasa effects are to be seen taking 7th from it as temporary lagna, but in this case 7th from Li i.e Ari is stronger. so i think that seeing dasa effect considering Ari as temporary lagna is more logical. (GURUS AND LEARNED MEMBERS MAY PLEASE CORRECT ME AND KINDLY GIVE GUIDANCE) but AD effect should be seen from the antardasa rasi only - as my knowledge goes. now if you take Li as lagna, then Ve is the lord who is in Ari, weak. in Li-Ge dasa AD lord is Me. He is in 3:11 position with Ve. So it should not creat much problem. But if you take Ari as temp lagna them MD lord Mars and Ad lord Mer is in 2:12 position and definitely not a good period. 6th (service) from AL is Pi (having swavarga Ju) - 12th from Ari, again problem. now in Li-Ta dasa temp. lagna lord Mars and AD lord Ve in 4:10 position. seems to be good. in fact recently he almost got an offer from a foreign company - which fizzled out due to passport problem, as i understood from aswin (ASWIN MAY CORRECT ME). may be weak Ve placement and its transit in Ari that time caused this. but i think in LI-Ta position should improve. Ta has exaulted Moon with Ke, and Moon is in star of Su (in 12th from temp lagna) and Ke is in star of Moon - he may suddenly get an offer from a place away from his present place of stay (pune). and he has to take decission without getting much chance to think. note here that temp lagna lord Mars is also in star of Moon and exaulted. anyway his Li-Ar dasa should be good. but whatever happens, he shall face problem everywhere- as he is running Ra (AK) mahadasa. PLEASE CORRECT ME IF YOU ARE CONVERSANT WITH RASHI DASA INTERPRETATIONS. ALSO PLEASE SEE IF YOU CAN MAKE IT TO ATTEND OUR NEXT MEETING ON 12.5.02 WHEN WE SHALL DISCUSS THIS CHART AND OTHER CHARTS IN DETAIL (ON CAREER AND PROFFESSIONS ONLY). WE ALL SHALL BE VERY GLAD. STILL THERE IS LOT OF TIME AND BOOKING ETC. MAY NOT BE VERY DIFFICULT. MORE THE NUMBER, MORE WILL BE THE FLOW AND EXCHANGE OF KNOWLEDGE. IN FACT WE SHALL REQUEST ALL SJVC MEMBERS-WHO EVER IS IN MUMBAI THAT TIME TO KINDLY ATTEND THE SAME. jk dasgupta - Katti Narahari sjvc Cc: Dr.M.G.Ramchndani Tuesday, April 23, 2002 11:14 AM Re: [sjvc] 2nd meeting proceedings, mumbai chapter om guruave namah Dear Dasgupta, All the very best for the mumbai group SJVC studies. Here is my attempt in learning more through the doubts you have raised. As always guru's and learned members here would correct me. My comments/attempt are in this colour. - j.k. dasgupta sjvc Cc: Dr.M.G.Ramchndani Monday, April 22, 2002 5:00 PM [sjvc] 2nd meeting proceedings, mumbai chapter Respected Sanjayji, Solaiji, other Gurus and all list members, With your blessings we started our 2nd meeting at the house of Dr. Ramchandani (Anushaktinagar, Chembur). As Solaiji pointed out, it was the auspicious day of Ram Navami. The diiscussion started at about 4.30 pm and continued upto 8.30 pm. It was an excellent and very friutfull evening we passed together. For sure, this is the best way to learn and clear each other's doubts and one life may not be sufficient to learn even a tip of the subject. The following persons were present, 1. Dr. Ramchandani (BARC, Mumbai) - He is a neuclear scientist and a member of " vedic astrology" discussion group. He is studying astrology since a long time and have a very good knowledge of KP system. 2. Dr. Ramakrishnan (BARC, Mumbai)- He is also a neuclear scientist. He has done research on KP system and also written a book on the application of KP system on various charts. He distributed complementary copies of his book to each of us. We are all greatfull to him for this. 3. Aswin (Pune) 4. Viswanadhan (Mumbai) 5. Praveen Agarwal (Mumbai) 4. J.K. Dasgupta (Mumbai) Nandan Chakravarty and Aruna Kawad could not attend as they were preoccupied with work and they intimated the same. We started with meditation, followed by discussions on, * AK, how to find Istadavata and Palanadevata in the chart. * Discussion on the chart of Aswin on his career prospects. * General discussion on KP method. * General discussion on KSY and KAY * General discussion on analysis of siblings from D3 chart * General discussion on functinal benefic and malefics It was decided that the next meeting will be held on 12.05.2002, sunday at the same place. Any subsequent change will be intimated to the list. We shall discuss our charts in details on proffession / career prospects, relations between D1, D9 & D10 vargas and any other related topics. Details of the discussions are submitted below. There were some questions from the perticipants - which have been shown in BOLD CAPITAL words. We seek guidance from the gurus and experienced list members on those. AK, ISTADEVATA AND PALANADEVATA: 1. Praveen Agarwal AK venus is in Aries navamsa. Sun is in 12th house from it. So Ista is Shiva. Mars is in the 6th house from AmK in navamsa. So his Palanadevata is Kartikeya/Scanda or Lord Hanuman 2. Aswin AK is Rahu and presently he is running Rahu mahadasa. 12th from karakamsa is Virgo -empty. So Ista is denoted by mercury. He is in 1st drekana. so his Ista is Lord Rama. In navamsa 6th from Amk is Leo, having sun and jup there.Jup is more advanced - so he indicates palanadevata. Jup indicates Guru. He is actually a devotee of Shirdhi Saibaba. DOUBT-1: CHARAKARAKA REPRESENTED BY ISTADEVATA SHALL LEAD THE NATIVE TO ISTA. BUT WHO WILL LEAD THE NATIVE TO PALANADEVATA? IN HIS CASE MERCURY IS CHARA MATRIKARAKA AND IT IS HIS MOTHER WHO FIRST TOOK HIS TO SAI BABA TEMPLE. DOES IT HAVE ANY SIGNIFICANCE? I would think so too. Also those planets that give Rasi dristi would lead the native towards the ista/palana devata. 3. Dr. Ramachandani AK is Jup in Gem (D9). Ra (5d) and Sat (14d) is in 12 th from karakamsa. Sat is more advanced so Narayana is Istadevata. AmK is Mercury in Sag (D9). 6th from Amk in navamsa also Taurus. So his Ista and Palanadevata are same. 4. Viswanadhan AK is Sat. In navamsa 12th from karakamsa is Scorpio which is empty. So Mars lord of scorpio indicates Ista and Kartikeya/Scanda or Lord Hanumana is his Ista. And Mars is in Navamsa lagna Sag with Jup & Sat. DOUBT-2: WHEN THERE ARE MORE THAN ONE PLANET IN 12TH FROM KARAKAMSA, PLANET HAVING MAXIMUM LONGITUDE INDICATES ISTA. BUT WHEN 12TH FROM KARAKAMSA IS EMPTY AND THE LORD IS AT ANOTHER HOUSE WITH OTHER PLANETS (AS IN THIS CASE) - DOES THE SAME RULE APPLY? OR AS A GENERAL RULE, IF 12TH FROM KARAKAMSA IS EMPTY - ITS LORD ONLY BE CONSIDERED? When the 12th from karakamsa is empty, only the lord (12th lord from karakamsa) is taken to denote the diety. Amk is Jup and in navamsa Sun is at 6th from it at Taurus. Sun i.e Shiva should be his Palnadevata. DOUBT-3 SUN IS IN ENEMY HOUSE AND LORD OF TAURUS, VENUS IS IN WATERY SIGN CANCER - HAVING RASHI DRISTI ON TAURUS. WHAT SHOULD BE THE EFFECT? WILL THE PALANADEVATA WILL REMAIN THE SAME - AS SUN IS IN ENEMY HOUSE? I would say it remains the same as enemical houses are not considered. Though rasi drishi indicates a via media for the native to get to the diety. If i could call it the means to achive the ista. 5. J.K. Dasgupta AK is Jup in Gem in nanamsa. 12th from it Taurus empty. Lord is Venus. It is also having rashidristi on Taurus. So Ista is Mahalaksmi. Amk is Sun in Gemini and 6th from it is Libra. Again Libra is empty. So lord Venus indicate Palandevata and here Istadevata and Palanadevata is same. CAREER PROSPECTS OF ASWIN: Birth data is, DOB: 18.03.1975 TOB: 12.20 pm Patna, Bihar Aswin is MBA and was working in a software firm in Pune. He lost his job on 31.10.2001 during his Ra-Sa-Ve period. Div charts were not available. So detail discussion could not be done. But it was seen in general that, 1. He is running AK mahadasa since 5.6.1995, Rahu is debilated in 6th. So in general the pereiod is difficult for him 2. Venus is in Ketu star and Ketu is placed in 12th house debilated. So Ve sub-sub created problem from him. Another thing was observed that Ketu is in 12th house with Moon (2d 50m, nearing deep exaultation ). During Moon mahadasa he was in hostel away from his home. In general it was opined that his next Ra-Sat-Mars dasa starting from 27.05.2002 should give him a job as Mars - as Mars is in Moon nakhsatra and Mars and Moon are in trine to each other. A job away from his present place (even outside India) might be possible. More detail discussions on this will be taken up during next meeting. Atmakaraka is rahu, and libra is the karakamsa. Libra is the 8th house from D-9 lagna. This indicates that the native will be often subjected to cheating. It could also point to disease. It points to a debt the native has to pay. Satyanarayana vrata on full moon day is the way out and the mantra being OM TAT SAT. Also in Rasi, Rahu, the AK is placed in the 6th house. (Rahu get;s debilitated in Saggitarius.) Lord of the 12th from Karakamsa is mercury and merc is the MK. Mother will lead the native towards his ista. Currently the native is running Li-Ta. Since the ND starts from the 1st house, we take Li as the Dasa Rasi. Ta is the 8th from Li having Moon the lord of 10th and GL!. The Paka rasi is Aries and Bhoga rasi is Cn. It;s lord relagated to 8th from the Dasa Rasi, and 8th from AL too. Thus Li-Ta needs to end. (2002-09) Li-Ar starts from 2002-09 has Mars exalted in the 4th from AL, aspecting (graha drishti) to 10th from dasa rasi and GL. Paka rasi (Ar) is in the 11th from lagna and Bhoga rasi (Cn) is in kendra to AL. This period would surely go well when compared to the current period. As always i would be indebted to all if they could kindly correct me. Thanks for everything. Regards Hari GURUJI AND OTHER LEARNED LIST MEMBERS MAY PLEASE COMMENT ON THIS. We all are looking forward to our next meeting on 12.05.2002 With humble regards, jk dasgupta ps: Aswin, Viswanadhan and Praveen: Please see if I have missed something Your use of is subject to the Your use of Groups is subject to the Your use of is subject to the Attachment: (application/octet-stream) Aswin_sjvc.jhd [not stored] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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