Answer for extract from an astrological supplementary

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PRANAAMS to all Gurus & fellow students,

my answer for extract from an astrological supplementary.

1. If 5th house lord is Sa, we can have in 5th Bhava Makara or Kumbha only. it's

mean, we can have in 10th Bhava Mithuna or Karkata only:

a) if 10th Bhava is Mithuna -> 10th Lord is Bu and placed in Meena/7th

Bhava (his debilitation sign)

b) if 10th Bhava is Karkata -> 10th Lord is Ch and placed in

Vrischika/2nd Bhava (his debilitation sign), but Gu has transit in Mithuna

Rashi, it's mean we must have Ch in Mithuna. So, this version is not correct.

2. a) 12th Lord is Sy and located with Gu (as Bu dispositor)

3. Samasaptaka parivarthana

a)Sk is in Mesha/8th Bhava and Ma is in Tula/2th Bhava

4. Search combination - Sy + Gu (?), Sa is in Kanya (6), Ma is in Tula (7), Sk

is in Mesha (1), Ch is in Mithuna (3), Bu is in(12) by using Sa periods.

5. Search for Sa in the 6 sign (Kanya, when Ma is in 7, Sk is in 1 and Sy+Gu

together. After that we correct time by Ch in 3d:

1952 : between April 29,1952 and May 1, 1952, where Ra - Kumbha, Ke -

Simha, Sy, Sk, Gu - Mesha

We have correct chart since April 29,1952 till May 1, 1952:

*-----------------------------*

| \ Ma / \ Ke / |

| \ / \ / |

| \7 / \ 5/ |

| 8 / \ 4 |

| / \ Sa / \ |

| / \ 6 / \ |

| / 9 \ / 3 Ch \ |

| \ / \ / |

| \ / 12 \ / |

| \ / \ / |

| 10 \ Bu / 2 |

| / 11 \ / 1 \ |

| / \ / \ |

| / Ra \ / Sy,Gu,Sk \ |

*-----------------------------*

6. By using dasa and antardasa periods we can find more correct time.

Sincerely yours,

Youry

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Now, in order to know the response of other members, I am give below an extract

taken from an astrological supplementary of a newspaper, in response to an

Indian reader's query.

" Poorvapunyasthanathipthy (5th house lord) Saturn is in Lagna Kendra.

Karmasthanathipathy (10th lord) is neecha (debilitated) and its dispositor is

placed along with the 12th lord, who is in strength. Jupiter is transiting on

the Janma Rasi at present. 2nd and 8th lords are having Samasaptaka

parivarthana (mutual exchange)." The native is having debt problem at present,

which is very clear from the chart.

1.Draw the chart based on the information given above.

2.Those who have attempted lesson 4 need not try this exercise.

This is purely meant to find out how many of the silent members are really interested in learning.

3. As we are not spoon feeding, I request the members to think and reply for

this small and simple exercise.

4. Do not worry about the answer, just attempt with your own knowledge.

5. I need to get a response from about 200 members.

Rahu and Ketu position is not given here. But it is possible to plot without the

information and if possible try for the range of date of births.

Thanks

Solai Kannan

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Dear Solai Ji,

The answer is straightforward.

1. Saturn lord of 5th => Lagna is Virgo or Libra.

10th lord is Mercury or Moon.

2. Jupiter is in Gemini at present => Moon is in Gemini in natal.

=> Moon is not debilitated in natal.

=> 10th lord can be Mercury only (by 1).

=> Lagna is Virgo.

=> Mercury is in 7th house in Pisces (debilitated).

=> Jupiter is the dispositor of 10th lord.

3. Dispositor of 10th lord Jupiter is with 12th lord Sun.

=> Su and Ju are together.

4. Since Mercury is in 7th house =>

Sun is either in 6th,7th or 8th houses.

Since 12th lord Sun is in strength => It can be exalted in 8th.

=> Venus is in 6th or 7th or 8th or 9th or 10th

=> Since Venus is second lord, Mars (8th lord) is in 7th

from Venus (2nd lord).

=> Mars can be in 12th/1st/2nd/3rd/4th houses.

5. Since person is in debt, his 2nd lord cannot be exalted/own sign/friend

sign in kendra.

Therefore, Venus is not in 7th house or 9th houses or 10th house.

Also, Venus cannot be in 6th house, where according to a dictum, the native

will never in debt if not rich.

So the Venus is in 8th house, along with Sun and Jupiter. This fixes Mars

in 2nd house.

6. So Planetary position is:

Sun - Aries -- 12th lord can cause debt

Moon - Gemini -- Amk

Mars - Libra -- 3rd,8th lord worst malefic

Mercury - Pisces -- debilitated

Jupiter - Aries --

Venus - Aries -- Dhana, bhagya lord

Saturn - Virgo --

Rahu -- Aquarius -- AK

Ketu -- Leo.

 

7. Clearly, Saturn and Jupiter can be in Virgo and Aries respectively only

once in 60 years. Since the native is still alive, it makes me think that either

he was born around 1952.

Sun fixes the month to April-May. and Moon fixes the day to somewhere from

29th April to 30th April. Lagna fixes the time to from 14:40 minutes to 17:10

minutes on 29th April only and not on 30th April because by that time Moon has

moved to the Cancer Sign.

Having fixed the day, we can try to fix the time. His is running Ketu

Mahadasha presently and either of Ketu/Venus/Sun Bhukti depending upon his time

of birth which can be between 14:40 to 17:10 on 29th April.

Since Ketu is in 12th house of Leo, its dispositor exalted in 8th the person

can be debt.

Rahu is AK and Moon is Amk in Shashtashtaka from Rahu in both the Rashi and

Navamsha chart. Venus is in enemys' sign Aries in both rashi and navamsha, which

though vargottama, is 8th house in rashi chart.

While these reasons don't help us fix the navamsha and thus the time of the

native, we can try elimination to reduce the number of possible navamshas.

1. The native couldn't have been born in vargottama lagna or even last (sathwik)

drekkana of the virgo. Thus, Cancer,Leo,Virgo are ruled out as navamsha lagnas.

In these navamshas, the native couldn't have been so poor to be in debt. Note

that, vargottama navamsha lagna can still be a possibility out of the three

since the placement of AK (3rd house) ,Amk and Venus (both 8th house) becomes

too bad with Mars occupying 7th house, being the lord of 3rd and 8th house in

navamsha chart.

2. For remaining navamshas lagnas, we can safely eliminate those where AK goes

in a kendra or trikona house in navamsha. So navamshas lagnas of Aries,Gemini

seem to be better candidates since these place the AK in 8th and 6th houses

respectively.

Thus, in my view the native would have been born in either of Aries, Gemini

or Virgo navamshas in the decreasing order of preferences.(I am not bothering to

explain the reason as are quite clear)

So he was born either from

29, April, 1952, 15:25 - 15:40 -- Aries navamsha

29, April, 1952, 15:55 - 16:10 -- Gemini navamsha

29, April, 1952, 16:55 - 17:10 -- Virgo navamsha

 

Rashi Chart.

*-----------------------------*

| \ Ma / \ Ke / |

| \ / \ / |

| \7 / \ 5/ |

| 8 / \ 4 |

| / \ Sa / \ |

| / \ 6 / \ |

| / 9 \ / 3 Mo \ |

| \ / \ / |

| \ / 12 \ / |

| \ / \ / |

| 10 \ Me / 2 |

| / 11 \ / 1 \ |

| / \ / \ |

| / Ra \ / Su,Ju,Ve \ |

*-----------------------------*

regards,

nitish

 

 

>Now, in order to know the response of other members, I am give below an

>extract taken from an astrological supplementary of a newspaper, in

>response to an Indian reader's query.

>" Poorvapunyasthanathipthy (5th house lord) Saturn is in Lagna Kendra.

>Karmasthanathipathy (10th lord) is neecha (debilitated) and its dispositor

>is placed along with the 12th lord, who is in strength. Jupiter is

>transiting on the Janma Rasi at present. 2nd and 8th lords are having

>Samasaptaka parivarthana (mutual exchange)." The native is having debt

>problem at present, which is very clear from the chart.

>1.Draw the chart based on the information given above.

>2.Those who have attempted lesson 4 need not try this exercise.

>This is purely meant to find out how many of the silent members are really

>interested in learning.

>3. As we are not spoon feeding, I request the members to think and reply

>for this small and simple exercise.

>4. Do not worry about the answer, just attempt with your own knowledge.

>5. I need to get a response from about 200 members.

>

>Rahu and Ketu position is not given here. But it is possible to plot

>without the information and if possible try for the range of date of

>births.

>

>Thanks

>Solai Kannan

 

 

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