Guest guest Posted February 3, 2002 Report Share Posted February 3, 2002 dear lakshmi d1 shows the overall aspects of life. d9 show the dharma of a person. karakamsa analysis shows what the soul desires. but what is desirable may not always fructify. thus if you have combust mercury, then working as a writer might be difficult. But at the same time u can write for hooby or write as a part time. Look at dasamsa or d10 for career in writing. There might be many fools like partha who are not really that eloquent but do become authors due their karma(laughs). regards partha sjvc, "Shailesh" <scchadha@h...> wrote: > Namaste Lakshmi, > > First & foremost - I am not too confident about my interpretations, SO USE WITH CARE. > > As I believe it: > 1. Sanjay ji teachs that VE & ME do not get combust unless retrograde. > 2. What is true for D-9, also holds good for D-1. > > Based on the above, you need not worry reg. the combustion of Me. > > Your D1 lagna has JU, MO & SA. Applying the rules for swamsa, (1.2.103), an excellent author is indicated. (1.2.106) re-confirms it. > > But as per 1.2.107, you may not be very eloquent. 1.2.109 re- confirms it, since SA in lagna give you stage-fright (I remeber you mentioned it in one of the recent mails). > > I request respected Gurus to confirm, or correct, my interpretation. > > Best wishes, > > Shailesh > scchadha@h... > - > lakshmi ramesh > sjvc > Sunday, February 03, 2002 6:47 AM > Re: [sjvc] Re: Appearances-dear Lakshmi > > > Om Gurave Namah > > Namaste Sailesh, > > I read the relevant chapters yesterday again. I do have Jupiter in trines to karakamsa, but in the 9th house, with Ketu. But he does rule the 5th & 8th houses from karakamsa. > > I have exalted Mercury(Partha's right in a way) in the 2nd from karakamsa, with Saturn. But He's got the lowest shadbala strength and is thoroughly combust in Rasi chart. How to interpret that? > > Regards, > > Lakshmi > > Shailesh <scchadha@h...> wrote: > > Dear Partha & Laksmi, > > The following Jaimini Sutras, from Ch. 1, Qtr 2, are very relevant to the subject. > > Best wishes, > > Shailesh Chandra Chadha > scchadha@h... > > SU. 102. If Chandra and Guru are in the Karakamsa or in the 5th from it, the person will become an author and will live by writing books. > > SU. 103. If Chandra and Sukra join Karakamsa or the 5th house from it, the person becomes an ordinary author. > > SU. I 04.-The person becomes still less famous than in the above Sutra if Budha joins Chandra instead of Sukra in Karakamsa or the 5th from it. > > SU. 105.-If Sukra joins Karakamsa, or the 5th from it, the person becomes a great poet; an eloquent speaker and well versed in poetry and literature. > > SU. I06.If Guru joins the Karakamsa or the 5th from it, he will be an all-round man and will know many branches of knowledge, well read in sciences and author of various works. He becomes a versatile genius. > > SU. 107.-In the above combination of Guru, though a person becomes learned he will not become a good speaker nor possess powers of eloquence. > > SU. 108.-If Guru joins Karakamsa or the 5th from it, the person becomes learned in Vyakarana or Grammar, Vedic literature and Vedangas. > > - > lakshmi ramesh > sjvc > Friday, February 01, 2002 1:07 PM > Re: [sjvc] Re: Appearances-dear Lakshmi > > > Om Gurave Namah > > Namaste Partha, > > I agree that Mercury must be strong for communication, but for creating immortal "master pieces" in writing, perhaps strong Jupiter is necessary. > > Regards, > > Lakshmi > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > -- ---------- > > Auctions Great stuff seeking new owners! Bid now! > Sponsor > > > > > > Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2002 Report Share Posted February 4, 2002 Om Gurave Namah Namaste Partha, Thanks for your suggestion. Though I work in a Bank, I do have a legitimate platform to er.. wax eloquent, because I am the editor of an in house IT magazine. Partha, I have really been thinking hard about Mercury being karaka for writing, but some how I am not convinced. Mercury symbolizes great information gathering & intelligent processing capacity. He also gives eloquence that can effectively package the output. But is this enough? For any writing to be relevant, shouldn’t there be something deep & universally valid within all that eloquence? And, if those qualities are there, is the eloquence really necessary? For example, in “Gajendra Moksham” do you think that Gajendra could have possibly made his appeal for help with great rhetoric and faultless syntax? His cry for help was hardly cerebral…“kaavave (traahimaam) Varadaa”..is that of a child in trouble and the Lord rushed to him like a mother. Take Thyagaraaja’s or Annamayya’s keertanas…they portray great philosophical dilemmas and man’s ceaseless search for Truth in such simple effortless language. The content is never dwarfed by the wordplay. And they are timeless in their appeal, because they touch the heart and celebrate the Truth within. Jupiter & Sun and Saturn, Partha, but I don’t think Mercury….he’s too light & effervescent. Regards, Lakshmi partvinu5 <partvinu5 > wrote: dear lakshmid1 shows the overall aspects of life. d9 show the dharma of a person. karakamsa analysis shows what the soul desires. but what is desirable may not always fructify. thus if you have combust mercury, then working as a writer might be difficult. But at the same time u can write for hooby or write as a part time.Look at dasamsa or d10 for career in writing. There might be many fools like partha who are not really that eloquent but do become authors due their karma(laughs).regardsparthasjvc, "Shailesh" <scchadha@h...> wrote:> Namaste Lakshmi,> > First & foremost - I am not too confident about my interpretations, SO USE WITH CARE.> > As I believe it:> 1. Sanjay ji teachs that VE & ME do not get combust unless retrograde.> 2. What is true for D-9, also holds good for D-1.> > Based on the above, you need not worry reg. the combustion of Me.> > Your D1 lagna has JU, MO & SA. Applying the rules for swamsa,(1.2.103), an excellent author is indicated. (1.2.106) re-confirms it. > > But as per 1.2.107, you may not be very eloquent. 1.2.109 re-confirms it, since SA in lagna give you stage-fright (I remeber you mentioned it in one of the recent mails).> > I request respected Gurus to confirm, or correct, my interpretation.> > Best wishes,> > Shailesh > scchadha@h...> ----- Original Message ----- > lakshmi ramesh > sjvc > Sunday, February 03, 2002 6:47 AM> Re: [sjvc] Re: Appearances-dear Lakshmi> > > Om Gurave Namah > > Namaste Sailesh, > > I read the relevant chapters yesterday again. I do have Jupiter in trines to karakamsa, but in the 9th house, with Ketu. But he does rule the 5th & 8th houses from karakamsa. > > I have exalted Mercury(Partha's right in a way) in the 2nd from karakamsa, with Saturn. But He's got the lowest shadbala strength and is thoroughly combust in Rasi chart. How to interpret that? > > Regards, > > Lakshmi > > Shailesh <scchadha@h...> wrote: > > Dear Partha & Laksmi,> > The following Jaimini Sutras, from Ch. 1, Qtr 2, are very relevant to the subject.> > Best wishes,> > Shailesh Chandra Chadha> scchadha@h...> > SU. 102. If Chandra and Guru are in the Karakamsa or in the 5th from it, the person will become an author and will live by writing books.> > SU. 103. If Chandra and Sukra join Karakamsa or the 5th house from it, the person becomes an ordinary author.> > SU. I 04.-The person becomes still less famous than in the above Sutra if Budha joins Chandra instead of Sukra in Karakamsa or the 5th from it.> > SU. 105.-If Sukra joins Karakamsa, or the 5th from it, the person becomes a great poet; an eloquent speaker and well versed in poetry and literature.> > SU. I06.If Guru joins the Karakamsa or the 5th from it, he will be an all-round man and will know many branches of knowledge, well read in sciences and author of various works. He becomes a versatile genius.> > SU. 107.-In the above combination of Guru, though a person becomes learned he will not become a good speaker nor possess powers of eloquence.> > SU. 108.-If Guru joins Karakamsa or the 5th from it, the person becomes learned in Vyakarana or Grammar, Vedic literature and Vedangas.> > ----- Original Message ----- > lakshmi ramesh > sjvc > Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 1:07 PM> Re: [sjvc] Re: Appearances-dear Lakshmi> > > Om Gurave Namah > > Namaste Partha, > > I agree that Mercury must be strong for communication, but for creating immortal "master pieces" in writing, perhaps strong Jupiter is necessary. > > Regards, > > Lakshmi > > > Your use of is subject to the > > > > > > > > Auctions Great stuff seeking new owners! Bid now! > Sponsor > > > > > > Terms of Service. Do You ? Auctions Great stuff seeking new owners! Bid now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2002 Report Share Posted February 4, 2002 dear lakshmi you made me smile. Now you are a philospher too(laughs). I have read few years in which classic(well i dont remember), but the statements were something like this for writing , i will give you a gist a)jupiter and moon in konas produce good writers b) the same combination should be seen from lagna, karakamsa lagna and navamsa lagna. the statement made me think a lot. because i always thought mercury was the guy who gives writing ability. When i searched deeper, i came to understand(that was 4 years ago), that moon because of his creative ability and jupiter due to his innate ability to visualise and understand the higher planes are deemed to be good writers. ok that was good. But on further investigation i found in many classics that mercury is the information collecter, the person responsible for printing, publications and writing. SO here i go. i integrate the two things as i am working NOW FULL TIME AS A WRITER. mercury give journalism, writing careers, but to be a great author one needs support of jupiter and moon. So for me mercury is in lagna, jupiter in 5th in aries, and moon in 10th in virgo, confirming that i can write for a living(laughs). But surely i can never write as beautifully as you do (laughs), because for you moon and jupiter are strong but not mercury!!!!. BTW sun is for management kind of stuff, saturn is for hard writing, religious, melancholic etc regards partha sjvc, lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote: > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > Namaste Partha, > > > > Thanks for your suggestion. Though I work in a Bank, I do have a legitimate platform to er.. wax eloquent, because I am the editor of an in house IT magazine. > > > > Partha, I have really been thinking hard about Mercury being karaka for writing, but some how I am not convinced. Mercury symbolizes great information gathering & intelligent processing capacity. He also gives eloquence that can effectively package the output. But is this enough? For any writing to be relevant, shouldn't there be something deep & universally valid within all that eloquence? And, if those qualities are there, is the eloquence really necessary? > > > > For example, in "Gajendra Moksham" do you think that Gajendra could have possibly made his appeal for help with great rhetoric and faultless syntax? His cry for help was hardly cerebral…"kaavave (traahimaam) Varadaa"..is that of a child in trouble and the Lord rushed to him like a mother. Take Thyagaraaja's or Annamayya's keertanas…they portray great philosophical dilemmas and man's ceaseless search for Truth in such simple effortless language. The content is never dwarfed by the wordplay. And they are timeless in their appeal, because they touch the heart and celebrate the Truth within. Jupiter & Sun and Saturn, Partha, but I don't think Mercury….he's too light & effervescent. > > > > Regards, > > Lakshmi > > > partvinu5 <partvinu5> wrote: > dear lakshmi > > d1 shows the overall aspects of life. d9 show the dharma of a person. > karakamsa analysis shows what the soul desires. but what is desirable > may not always fructify. thus if you have combust mercury, then > working as a writer might be difficult. But at the same time u can > write for hooby or write as a part time. > > Look at dasamsa or d10 for career in writing. There might be many > fools like partha who are not really that eloquent but do become > authors due their karma(laughs). > > regards > partha sjvc, "Shailesh" <scchadha@h...> wrote: > > Namaste Lakshmi, > > > > First & foremost - I am not too confident about my interpretations, > SO USE WITH CARE. > > > > As I believe it: > > 1. Sanjay ji teachs that VE & ME do not get combust unless > retrograde. > > 2. What is true for D-9, also holds good for D-1. > > > > Based on the above, you need not worry reg. the combustion of Me. > > > > Your D1 lagna has JU, MO & SA. Applying the rules for swamsa, > (1.2.103), an excellent author is indicated. (1.2.106) re-confirms > it. > > > > But as per 1.2.107, you may not be very eloquent. 1.2.109 re- > confirms it, since SA in lagna give you stage-fright (I remeber you > mentioned it in one of the recent mails). > > > > I request respected Gurus to confirm, or correct, my interpretation. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Shailesh > > scchadha@h... > > - > > lakshmi ramesh > > sjvc > > Sunday, February 03, 2002 6:47 AM > > Re: [sjvc] Re: Appearances-dear Lakshmi > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > Namaste Sailesh, > > > > I read the relevant chapters yesterday again. I do have Jupiter > in trines to karakamsa, but in the 9th house, with Ketu. But he does > rule the 5th & 8th houses from karakamsa. > > > > I have exalted Mercury(Partha's right in a way) in the 2nd from > karakamsa, with Saturn. But He's got the lowest shadbala strength and > is thoroughly combust in Rasi chart. How to interpret that? > > > > Regards, > > > > Lakshmi > > > > Shailesh <scchadha@h...> wrote: > > > > Dear Partha & Laksmi, > > > > The following Jaimini Sutras, from Ch. 1, Qtr 2, are very > relevant to the subject. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Shailesh Chandra Chadha > > scchadha@h... > > > > SU. 102. If Chandra and Guru are in the Karakamsa or in the 5th > from it, the person will become an author and will live by writing > books. > > > > SU. 103. If Chandra and Sukra join Karakamsa or the 5th house > from it, the person becomes an ordinary author. > > > > SU. I 04.-The person becomes still less famous than in the > above Sutra if Budha joins Chandra instead of Sukra in Karakamsa or > the 5th from it. > > > > SU. 105.-If Sukra joins Karakamsa, or the 5th from it, the > person becomes a great poet; an eloquent speaker and well versed in > poetry and literature. > > > > SU. I06.If Guru joins the Karakamsa or the 5th from it, he will > be an all-round man and will know many branches of knowledge, well > read in sciences and author of various works. He becomes a versatile > genius. > > > > SU. 107.-In the above combination of Guru, though a person > becomes learned he will not become a good speaker nor possess powers > of eloquence. > > > > SU. 108.-If Guru joins Karakamsa or the 5th from it, the person > becomes learned in Vyakarana or Grammar, Vedic literature and > Vedangas. > > > > - > > lakshmi ramesh > > sjvc > > Friday, February 01, 2002 1:07 PM > > Re: [sjvc] Re: Appearances-dear Lakshmi > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > Namaste Partha, > > > > I agree that Mercury must be strong for communication, but > for creating immortal "master pieces" in writing, perhaps strong > Jupiter is necessary. > > > > Regards, > > > > Lakshmi > > > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > ---------- > > > > Auctions Great stuff seeking new owners! Bid now! > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > Sponsor > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > Auctions Great stuff seeking new owners! Bid now! 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Guest guest Posted February 4, 2002 Report Share Posted February 4, 2002 Dear Partha, Good to know that you are laughing so much. May you have more reasons to do so always! Regards, Lakshmi partvinu5 <partvinu5 > wrote: dear lakshmiyou made me smile. Now you are a philospher too(laughs).I have read few years in which classic(well i dont remember), but the statements were something like this for writing , i will give you a gista)jupiter and moon in konas produce good writersb) the same combination should be seen from lagna, karakamsa lagna and navamsa lagna.the statement made me think a lot. because i always thought mercury was the guy who gives writing ability. When i searched deeper, i came to understand(that was 4 years ago), that moon because of his creative ability and jupiter due to his innate ability to visualise and understand the higher planes are deemed to be good writers.ok that was good. But on further investigation i found in many classics that mercury is the information collecter, the person responsible for printing, publications and writing.SO here i go. i integrate the two things as i am working NOW FULL TIME AS A WRITER.mercury give journalism, writing careers, but to be a great author one needs support of jupiter and moon. So for me mercury is in lagna, jupiter in 5th in aries, and moon in 10th in virgo, confirming that i can write for a living(laughs). But surely i can never write as beautifully as you do (laughs), because for you moon and jupiter are strong but not mercury!!!!.BTW sun is for management kind of stuff, saturn is for hard writing, religious, melancholic etcregardsparthasjvc, lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote:> > > Om Gurave Namah> > > > Namaste Partha,> > > > Thanks for your suggestion. Though I work in a Bank, I do have a legitimate platform to er.. wax eloquent, because I am the editor of an in house IT magazine. > > > > Partha, I have really been thinking hard about Mercury being karaka for writing, but some how I am not convinced. Mercury symbolizes great information gathering & intelligent processing capacity. He also gives eloquence that can effectively package the output. But is this enough? For any writing to be relevant, shouldn't there be something deep & universally valid within all that eloquence? And, if those qualities are there, is the eloquence really necessary? > > > > For example, in "Gajendra Moksham" do you think that Gajendra could have possibly made his appeal for help with great rhetoric and faultless syntax? His cry for help was hardly cerebral…"kaavave (traahimaam) Varadaa"..is that of a child in trouble and the Lord rushed to him like a mother. Take Thyagaraaja's or Annamayya's keertanas…they portray great philosophical dilemmas and man's ceaseless search for Truth in such simple effortless language. The content is never dwarfed by the wordplay. And they are timeless in their appeal, because they touch the heart and celebrate the Truth within. Jupiter & Sun and Saturn, Partha, but I don't think Mercury….he's too light & effervescent.> > > > Regards,> > Lakshmi> > > partvinu5 <partvinu5> wrote: > dear lakshmi> > d1 shows the overall aspects of life. d9 show the dharma of a person. > karakamsa analysis shows what the soul desires. but what is desirable > may not always fructify. thus if you have combust mercury, then > working as a writer might be difficult. But at the same time u can > write for hooby or write as a part time.> > Look at dasamsa or d10 for career in writing. There might be many > fools like partha who are not really that eloquent but do become > authors due their karma(laughs).> > regards> partha> > > > > > > sjvc, "Shailesh" <scchadha@h...> wrote:> > Namaste Lakshmi,> > > > First & foremost - I am not too confident about my interpretations, > SO USE WITH CARE.> > > > As I believe it:> > 1. Sanjay ji teachs that VE & ME do not get combust unless > retrograde.> > 2. What is true for D-9, also holds good for D-1.> > > > Based on the above, you need not worry reg. the combustion of Me.> > > > Your D1 lagna has JU, MO & SA. Applying the rules for swamsa,> (1.2.103), an excellent author is indicated. (1.2.106) re-confirms > it. > > > > But as per 1.2.107, you may not be very eloquent. 1.2.109 re-> confirms it, since SA in lagna give you stage-fright (I remeber you > mentioned it in one of the recent mails).> > > > I request respected Gurus to confirm, or correct, my interpretation.> > > > Best wishes,> > > > Shailesh > > scchadha@h...> > - > > lakshmi ramesh > > sjvc > > Sunday, February 03, 2002 6:47 AM> > Re: [sjvc] Re: Appearances-dear Lakshmi> > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > Namaste Sailesh, > > > > I read the relevant chapters yesterday again. I do have Jupiter > in trines to karakamsa, but in the 9th house, with Ketu. But he does > rule the 5th & 8th houses from karakamsa. > > > > I have exalted Mercury(Partha's right in a way) in the 2nd from > karakamsa, with Saturn. But He's got the lowest shadbala strength and > is thoroughly combust in Rasi chart. How to interpret that? > > > > Regards, > > > > Lakshmi > > > > Shailesh <scchadha@h...> wrote: > > > > Dear Partha & Laksmi,> > > > The following Jaimini Sutras, from Ch. 1, Qtr 2, are very > relevant to the subject.> > > > Best wishes,> > > > Shailesh Chandra Chadha> > scchadha@h...> > > > SU. 102. If Chandra and Guru are in the Karakamsa or in the 5th > from it, the person will become an author and will live by writing > books.> > > > SU. 103. If Chandra and Sukra join Karakamsa or the 5th house > from it, the person becomes an ordinary author.> > > > SU. I 04.-The person becomes still less famous than in the > above Sutra if Budha joins Chandra instead of Sukra in Karakamsa or > the 5th from it.> > > > SU. 105.-If Sukra joins Karakamsa, or the 5th from it, the > person becomes a great poet; an eloquent speaker and well versed in > poetry and literature.> > > > SU. I06.If Guru joins the Karakamsa or the 5th from it, he will > be an all-round man and will know many branches of knowledge, well > read in sciences and author of various works. He becomes a versatile > genius.> > > > SU. 107.-In the above combination of Guru, though a person > becomes learned he will not become a good speaker nor possess powers > of eloquence.> > > > SU. 108.-If Guru joins Karakamsa or the 5th from it, the person > becomes learned in Vyakarana or Grammar, Vedic literature and > Vedangas.> > > > - > > lakshmi ramesh > > sjvc > > Friday, February 01, 2002 1:07 PM> > Re: [sjvc] Re: Appearances-dear Lakshmi> > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > Namaste Partha, > > > > I agree that Mercury must be strong for communication, but > for creating immortal "master pieces" in writing, perhaps strong > Jupiter is necessary. > > > > Regards, > > > > Lakshmi > > > > > > Your use of is subject to the Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > --> ----------> > > > Auctions Great stuff seeking new owners! 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Guest guest Posted February 5, 2002 Report Share Posted February 5, 2002 Hare Rama Krishna, dear lakshmi & partha, Interesting discussion. I disagree on some points which I thought I would bring up. - Lakshmi, you imply that your writing ability may be impaired by Me being combust. I do not think this is totally accurate. Sun + Mercury endows the native with Budhaditya yoga which may make him/her intellectually brilliant. Albert Einstein had this combination with Sun & Me in the 10th house. These results no doubt will depend on various other influences, however many grahas do quite well even though they may be technically combust. From what I remember, you have Mercury combust in Leo, which would probably produce good results as Sun is in his own house + in a kona. - I concur with Partha that a strong Mercury is quite essential for good writing & communication. Mercury provides this expressive ability. Jupiter grants wisdom & intelligence, but without a strong Mercury one will not be able to articulate oneself with clarity. Vishal sjvc, "partvinu5" <partvinu5> wrote: > dear lakshmi > > you made me smile. Now you are a philospher too(laughs). > > I have read few years in which classic(well i dont remember), but the > statements were something like this for writing , i will give you a > gist > > a)jupiter and moon in konas produce good writers > b) the same combination should be seen from lagna, karakamsa lagna > and navamsa lagna. > > > the statement made me think a lot. because i always thought mercury > was the guy who gives writing ability. When i searched deeper, i came > to understand(that was 4 years ago), that moon because of his > creative ability and jupiter due to his innate ability to visualise > and understand the higher planes are deemed to be good writers. > > ok that was good. But on further investigation i found in many > classics that mercury is the information collecter, the person > responsible for printing, publications and writing. > > SO here i go. i integrate the two things as i am working NOW FULL > TIME AS A WRITER. > > mercury give journalism, writing careers, but to be a great author > one needs support of jupiter and moon. So for me mercury is in lagna, > jupiter in 5th in aries, and moon in 10th in virgo, confirming that i > can write for a living(laughs). But surely i can never write as > beautifully as you do (laughs), because for you moon and jupiter are > strong but not mercury!!!!. > BTW sun is for management kind of stuff, saturn is for hard writing, > religious, melancholic etc > regards > partha > > > sjvc, lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote: > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > Namaste Partha, > > > > > > > > Thanks for your suggestion. Though I work in a Bank, I do have a > legitimate platform to er.. wax eloquent, because I am the editor of > an in house IT magazine. > > > > > > > > Partha, I have really been thinking hard about Mercury being karaka > for writing, but some how I am not convinced. Mercury symbolizes > great information gathering & intelligent processing capacity. He > also gives eloquence that can effectively package the output. But is > this enough? For any writing to be relevant, shouldn't there be > something deep & universally valid within all that eloquence? And, if > those qualities are there, is the eloquence really necessary? > > > > > > > > For example, in "Gajendra Moksham" do you think that Gajendra could > have possibly made his appeal for help with great rhetoric and > faultless syntax? His cry for help was hardly c erebral…"kaavave > (traahimaam) Varadaa"..is that of a child in trouble and the Lord > rushed to him like a mother. Take Thyagaraaja's or Annamayya's > keertanas…they portray great philosophical dilemmas and man's > ceaseless search for Truth in such simple effortless language. The > content is never dwarfed by the wordplay. And they are timeless in > their appeal, because they touch the heart and celebrate the Truth > within. Jupiter & Sun and Saturn, Partha, but I don't think > Mercury….he's too light & effervescent. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Lakshmi > > > > > > partvinu5 <partvinu5> wrote: > > dear lakshmi > > > > d1 shows the overall aspects of life. d9 show the dharma of a > person. > > karakamsa analysis shows what the soul desires. but what is > desirable > > may not always fructify. thus if you have combust mercury, then > > working as a writer might be difficult. But at the same time u can > > write for hooby or write as a part time. > > > > Look at dasamsa or d10 for career in writing. There might be many > > fools like partha who are not really that eloquent but do become > > authors due their karma(laughs). > > > > regards > > partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sjvc, "Shailesh" <scchadha@h...> wrote: > > > Namaste Lakshmi, > > > > > > First & foremost - I am not too confident about my > interpretations, > > SO USE WITH CARE. > > > > > > As I believe it: > > > 1. Sanjay ji teachs that VE & ME do not get combust unless > > retrograde. > > > 2. What is true for D-9, also holds good for D-1. > > > > > > Based on the above, you need not worry reg. the combustion of Me. > > > > > > Your D1 lagna has JU, MO & SA. Applying the rules for swamsa, > > (1.2.103), an excellent author is indicated. (1.2.106) re- confirms > > it. > > > > > > But as per 1.2.107, you may not be very eloquent. 1.2.109 re- > > confirms it, since SA in lagna give you stage-fright (I remeber you > > mentioned it in one of the recent mails). > > > > > > I request respected Gurus to confirm, or correct, my > interpretation. > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > Shailesh > > > scchadha@h... > > > - > > > lakshmi ramesh > > > sjvc > > > Sunday, February 03, 2002 6:47 AM > > > Re: [sjvc] Re: Appearances-dear Lakshmi > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > Namaste Sailesh, > > > > > > I read the relevant chapters yesterday again. I do have Jupiter > > in trines to karakamsa, but in the 9th house, with Ketu. But he > does > > rule the 5th & 8th houses from karakamsa. > > > > > > I have exalted Mercury(Partha's right in a way) in the 2nd from > > karakamsa, with Saturn. But He's got the lowest shadbala strength > and > > is thoroughly combust in Rasi chart. How to interpret that? > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Lakshmi > > > > > > Shailesh <scchadha@h...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Partha & Laksmi, > > > > > > The following Jaimini Sutras, from Ch. 1, Qtr 2, are very > > relevant to the subject. > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > Shailesh Chandra Chadha > > > scchadha@h... > > > > > > SU. 102. If Chandra and Guru are in the Karakamsa or in the > 5th > > from it, the person will become an author and will live by writing > > books. > > > > > > SU. 103. If Chandra and Sukra join Karakamsa or the 5th house > > from it, the person becomes an ordinary author. > > > > > > SU. I 04.-The person becomes still less famous than in the > > above Sutra if Budha joins Chandra instead of Sukra in Karakamsa or > > the 5th from it. > > > > > > SU. 105.-If Sukra joins Karakamsa, or the 5th from it, the > > person becomes a great poet; an eloquent speaker and well versed in > > poetry and literature. > > > > > > SU. I06.If Guru joins the Karakamsa or the 5th from it, he > will > > be an all-round man and will know many branches of knowledge, well > > read in sciences and author of various works. He becomes a > versatile > > genius. > > > > > > SU. 107.-In the above combination of Guru, though a person > > becomes learned he will not become a good speaker nor possess > powers > > of eloquence. > > > > > > SU. 108.-If Guru joins Karakamsa or the 5th from it, the > person > > becomes learned in Vyakarana or Grammar, Vedic literature and > > Vedangas. > > > > > > - > > > lakshmi ramesh > > > sjvc > > > Friday, February 01, 2002 1:07 PM > > > Re: [sjvc] Re: Appearances-dear Lakshmi > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > Namaste Partha, > > > > > > I agree that Mercury must be strong for communication, but > > for creating immortal "master pieces" in writing, perhaps strong > > Jupiter is necessary. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Lakshmi > > > > > > > > > Terms of > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- -- > -- > > ---------- > > > > > > Auctions Great stuff seeking new owners! 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Guest guest Posted February 7, 2002 Report Share Posted February 7, 2002 Om Gurave Namah Namaste Vishal, Regarding Mercury, he’s a karaka for intellect, but then one can't be wise without being intelligent, while one can be intelligent without being wise. There’s enough proof in the world for this. I always felt that Jupiter presupposes & includes Mercury, and the reverse is not true. Mercury as pure intellect is like a precocious & impressionable child who needs a firm hand to guide him and settle all that undulating energy into lasting tasks. He needs the stern, disapproving but concerned fathers/gurus like Sun, Jupiter & Saturn around for that. I do concur with you that intelligence ( effect of Nipuna yoga ) may not be impaired because Mercury is combust. Only the original flamboyance might be somewhat tempered into a more conservative format. For example, in Einstein’s chart, his 10th house has a formidable line-up of planets, with so many rajayogas. Nipuna yoga takes place in Jupiter’s house (pisces), Who’s stationed in 9th house. Saturn (9th lord) is in 10th house, in powerful parivartana with Jupiter (7th & 10th Lord). Also, you can’t disregard the fact that the 5th & 12th lord Venus is exalted and Sun (3rd lord) in 10th house has digbala. So, Mercury was literally in the company of giants! With them in control, Einstein’s visionary intellect was yoked to passionate wisdom & it made him what he was and what he continues to mean to generations of us. Great writing is enabled by exalted Jupiter, moon & venus combo. Mercury does give ability to communicate well, but in a frothy, light-hearted way, unless otherwise influenced. By the way, thanx for making me look at Einstein’s chart. He’s one of my all time fav guys! Regards, Lakshmi vbamba <vbamba (AT) msn (DOT) com> wrote: Hare Rama Krishna,dear lakshmi & partha,Interesting discussion. I disagree on some points which I thought I would bring up.- Lakshmi, you imply that your writing ability may be impaired by Me being combust. I do not think this is totally accurate. Sun + Mercury endows the native with Budhaditya yoga which may make him/her intellectually brilliant. Albert Einstein had this combination with Sun & Me in the 10th house. These results no doubt will depend on various other influences, however many grahas do quite well even though they may be technically combust. From what I remember, you have Mercury combust in Leo, which would probably produce good results as Sun is in his own house + in a kona.- I concur with Partha that a strong Mercury is quite essential for good writing & communication. Mercury provides this expressive ability. Jupiter grants wisdom & intelligence, but without a strong Mercury one will not be able to articulate oneself with clarity.Vishalsjvc, "partvinu5" <partvinu5> wrote:> dear lakshmi> > you made me smile. Now you are a philospher too(laughs).> > I have read few years in which classic(well i dont remember), but the > statements were something like this for writing , i will give you a > gist> > a)jupiter and moon in konas produce good writers> b) the same combination should be seen from lagna, karakamsa lagna > and navamsa lagna.> > > the statement made me think a lot. because i always thought mercury > was the guy who gives writing ability. When i searched deeper, i came > to understand(that was 4 years ago), that moon because of his > creative ability and jupiter due to his innate ability to visualise > and understand the higher planes are deemed to be good writers.> > ok that was good. But on further investigation i found in many > classics that mercury is the information collecter, the person > responsible for printing, publications and writing.> > SO here i go. i integrate the two things as i am working NOW FULL > TIME AS A WRITER.> > mercury give journalism, writing careers, but to be a great author > one needs support of jupiter and moon. So for me mercury is in lagna, > jupiter in 5th in aries, and moon in 10th in virgo, confirming that i > can write for a living(laughs). But surely i can never write as > beautifully as you do (laughs), because for you moon and jupiter are > strong but not mercury!!!!.> BTW sun is for management kind of stuff, saturn is for hard writing, > religious, melancholic etc> regards> partha> > > sjvc, lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote:> > > > > > Om Gurave Namah> > > > > > > > Namaste Partha,> > > > > > > > Thanks for your suggestion. Though I work in a Bank, I do have a > legitimate platform to er.. wax eloquent, because I am the editor of > an in house IT magazine. > > > > > > > > Partha, I have really been thinking hard about Mercury being karaka > for writing, but some how I am not convinced. Mercury symbolizes > great information gathering & intelligent processing capacity. He > also gives eloquence that can effectively package the output. But is > this enough? For any writing to be relevant, shouldn't there be > something deep & universally valid within all that eloquence? And, if > those qualities are there, is the eloquence really necessary? > > > > > > > > For example, in "Gajendra Moksham" do you think that Gajendra could > have possibly made his appeal for help with great rhetoric and > faultless syntax? His cry for help was hardly cerebral…"kaavave > (traahimaam) Varadaa"..is that of a child in trouble and the Lord > rushed to him like a mother. Take Thyagaraaja's or Annamayya's > keertanas…they portray great philosophical dilemmas and man's > ceaseless search for Truth in such simple effortless language. The > content is never dwarfed by the wordplay. And they are timeless in > their appeal, because they touch the heart and celebrate the Truth > within. Jupiter & Sun and Saturn, Partha, but I don't think > Mercury….he's too light & effervescent.> > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > Lakshmi> > > > > > partvinu5 <partvinu5> wrote: > > dear lakshmi> > > > d1 shows the overall aspects of life. d9 show the dharma of a > person. > > karakamsa analysis shows what the soul desires. but what is > desirable > > may not always fructify. thus if you have combust mercury, then > > working as a writer might be difficult. But at the same time u can > > write for hooby or write as a part time.> > > > Look at dasamsa or d10 for career in writing. There might be many > > fools like partha who are not really that eloquent but do become > > authors due their karma(laughs).> > > > regards> > partha> > > > > > > > > > > > > > sjvc, "Shailesh" <scchadha@h...> wrote:> > > Namaste Lakshmi,> > > > > > First & foremost - I am not too confident about my > interpretations, > > SO USE WITH CARE.> > > > > > As I believe it:> > > 1. Sanjay ji teachs that VE & ME do not get combust unless > > retrograde.> > > 2. What is true for D-9, also holds good for D-1.> > > > > > Based on the above, you need not worry reg. the combustion of Me.> > > > > > Your D1 lagna has JU, MO & SA. Applying the rules for swamsa,> > (1.2.103), an excellent author is indicated. (1.2.106) re-confirms > > it. > > > > > > But as per 1.2.107, you may not be very eloquent. 1.2.109 re-> > confirms it, since SA in lagna give you stage-fright (I remeber you > > mentioned it in one of the recent mails).> > > > > > I request respected Gurus to confirm, or correct, my > interpretation.> > > > > > Best wishes,> > > > > > Shailesh > > > scchadha@h...> > > - > > > lakshmi ramesh > > > sjvc > > > Sunday, February 03, 2002 6:47 AM> > > Re: [sjvc] Re: Appearances-dear Lakshmi> > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > Namaste Sailesh, > > > > > > I read the relevant chapters yesterday again. I do have Jupiter > > in trines to karakamsa, but in the 9th house, with Ketu. But he > does > > rule the 5th & 8th houses from karakamsa. > > > > > > I have exalted Mercury(Partha's right in a way) in the 2nd from > > karakamsa, with Saturn. But He's got the lowest shadbala strength > and > > is thoroughly combust in Rasi chart. How to interpret that? > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Lakshmi > > > > > > Shailesh <scchadha@h...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Partha & Laksmi,> > > > > > The following Jaimini Sutras, from Ch. 1, Qtr 2, are very > > relevant to the subject.> > > > > > Best wishes,> > > > > > Shailesh Chandra Chadha> > > scchadha@h...> > > > > > SU. 102. If Chandra and Guru are in the Karakamsa or in the > 5th > > from it, the person will become an author and will live by writing > > books.> > > > > > SU. 103. If Chandra and Sukra join Karakamsa or the 5th house > > from it, the person becomes an ordinary author.> > > > > > SU. I 04.-The person becomes still less famous than in the > > above Sutra if Budha joins Chandra instead of Sukra in Karakamsa or > > the 5th from it.> > > > > > SU. 105.-If Sukra joins Karakamsa, or the 5th from it, the > > person becomes a great poet; an eloquent speaker and well versed in > > poetry and literature.> > > > > > SU. I06.If Guru joins the Karakamsa or the 5th from it, he > will > > be an all-round man and will know many branches of knowledge, well > > read in sciences and author of various works. He becomes a > versatile > > genius.> > > > > > SU. 107.-In the above combination of Guru, though a person > > becomes learned he will not become a good speaker nor possess > powers > > of eloquence.> > > > > > SU. 108.-If Guru joins Karakamsa or the 5th from it, the > person > > becomes learned in Vyakarana or Grammar, Vedic literature and > > Vedangas.> > > > > > - > > > lakshmi ramesh > > > sjvc > > > Friday, February 01, 2002 1:07 PM> > > Re: [sjvc] Re: Appearances-dear Lakshmi> > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > Namaste Partha, > > > > > > I agree that Mercury must be strong for communication, but > > for creating immortal "master pieces" in writing, perhaps strong > > Jupiter is necessary. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Lakshmi > > > > > > > > > Your use of Groups is subject to the Terms of > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --> > ----------> > > > > > Auctions Great stuff seeking new owners! 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Guest guest Posted February 7, 2002 Report Share Posted February 7, 2002 Dear Members, I totally agree with Vishal that the yoga would exist even if Mercury is combust. May be to a lesser degree. Vishal, Can you please explain what you meant by "more conservative format". I have heard people saying that Nipuna Yoga ( in any house ) will help the native to specialize in some area and get advanced degree. Is it true.. What is the effect if it is in the Second House ? I look forward to your reply, Thnx Rgds Sai --- lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh wrote: > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > Namaste Vishal, > > > > Regarding Mercury, he’s a karaka for intellect, but > then one can't be wise without being intelligent, > while one can be intelligent without being wise. > There’s enough proof in the world for this. I always > felt that Jupiter presupposes & includes Mercury, > and the reverse is not true. > > > > Mercury as pure intellect is like a precocious & > impressionable child who needs a firm hand to guide > him and settle all that undulating energy into > lasting tasks. He needs the stern, disapproving but > concerned fathers/gurus like Sun, Jupiter & Saturn > around for that. I do concur with you that > intelligence ( effect of Nipuna yoga ) may not be > impaired because Mercury is combust. Only the > original flamboyance might be somewhat tempered into > a more conservative format. > > > > For example, in Einstein’s chart, his 10th house has > a formidable line-up of planets, with so many > rajayogas. Nipuna yoga takes place in Jupiter’s > house (pisces), Who’s stationed in 9th house. Saturn > (9th lord) is in 10th house, in powerful parivartana > with Jupiter (7th & 10th Lord). Also, you can’t > disregard the fact that the 5th & 12th lord Venus is > exalted and Sun (3rd lord) in 10th house has > digbala. So, Mercury was literally in the company of > giants! With them in control, Einstein’s visionary > intellect was yoked to passionate wisdom & it made > him what he was and what he continues to mean to > generations of us. > > > > Great writing is enabled by exalted Jupiter, moon & > venus combo. Mercury does give ability to > communicate well, but in a frothy, light-hearted > way, unless otherwise influenced. > > > > By the way, thanx for making me look at Einstein’s > chart. He’s one of my all time fav guys! > > > > Regards, > > Lakshmi vbamba <vbamba wrote: > Hare Rama Krishna, > > dear lakshmi & partha, > > Interesting discussion. I disagree on some points > which I thought I > would bring up. > > - Lakshmi, you imply that your writing ability may > be impaired by Me > being combust. I do not think this is totally > accurate. Sun + Mercury > endows the native with Budhaditya yoga which may > make him/her > intellectually brilliant. Albert Einstein had this > combination with > Sun & Me in the 10th house. These results no doubt > will depend on > various other influences, however many grahas do > quite well even > though they may be technically combust. From what I > remember, you > have Mercury combust in Leo, which would probably > produce good > results as Sun is in his own house + in a kona. > > - I concur with Partha that a strong Mercury is > quite essential for > good writing & communication. Mercury provides this > expressive > ability. Jupiter grants wisdom & intelligence, but > without a strong > Mercury one will not be able to articulate oneself > with clarity. > > Vishal > > sjvc, "partvinu5" <partvinu5> > wrote: > > dear lakshmi > > > > you made me smile. Now you are a philospher > too(laughs). > > > > I have read few years in which classic(well i dont > remember), but > the > > statements were something like this for writing , > i will give you a > > gist > > > > a)jupiter and moon in konas produce good writers > > b) the same combination should be seen from lagna, > karakamsa lagna > > and navamsa lagna. > > > > > > the statement made me think a lot. because i > always thought > mercury > > was the guy who gives writing ability. When i > searched deeper, i > came > > to understand(that was 4 years ago), that moon > because of his > > creative ability and jupiter due to his innate > ability to visualise > > and understand the higher planes are deemed to be > good writers. > > > > ok that was good. But on further investigation i > found in many > > classics that mercury is the information > collecter, the person > > responsible for printing, publications and > writing. > > > > SO here i go. i integrate the two things as i am > working NOW FULL > > TIME AS A WRITER. > > > > mercury give journalism, writing careers, but to > be a great author > > one needs support of jupiter and moon. So for me > mercury is in > lagna, > > jupiter in 5th in aries, and moon in 10th in > virgo, confirming that > i > > can write for a living(laughs). But surely i can > never write as > > beautifully as you do (laughs), because for you > moon and jupiter > are > > strong but not mercury!!!!. > > BTW sun is for management kind of stuff, saturn is > for hard > writing, > > religious, melancholic etc > > regards > > partha > > > > > > sjvc, lakshmi ramesh > <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Partha, > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your suggestion. Though I work in a > Bank, I do have a > > legitimate platform to er.. wax eloquent, because > I am the editor > of > > an in house IT magazine. > > > > > > > > > > > > Partha, I have really been thinking hard about > Mercury being > karaka > > for writing, but some how I am not convinced. > Mercury symbolizes > > great information gathering & intelligent > processing capacity. He > === message truncated === Send FREE Valentine eCards with Greetings! http://greetings. 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Guest guest Posted February 7, 2002 Report Share Posted February 7, 2002 JAYA JAGANNATHA! Dear Sai, Namaste. Dear Members, I totally agree with Vishal that the yoga would exist even if Mercury is combust. May be to a lesser degree. DEFINITELY, IF MERCURY IS CLOSELY COMBUST, HE WILL NOT MAKE THE NATIVE ABLE TO UTILIZE HIS KNOWLEDGE. IT WILL REMAIN THEORETICAL. Vishal, Can you please explain what you meant by "more conservative format". I have heard people saying that Nipuna Yoga ( in any house ) will help the native to specialize in some area and get advanced degree. Is it true.. THE MOST POTENT IS IN THE 5TH HOUSE OR ITS ARUDHA. TRINES IS ALSO GOOD, AS HE WOULD GIVE GOOD ABILITIES, KENDRAS IS STILL GOOD, BUT NOT EXTRAORDINARY, AND IN DUSTHANAS IT WON'T GIVE USEFUL RESULTS. What is the effect if it is in the Second House ? MAKES THE NATIVE ABLE TO EXPRESS HIS IDEAS AND KNOWLEDGE IN SPEECH, I.E. ORATORY ABILITY. I HAVE NIPUNA YOGA IN THE 5TH HOUSE WITH MERCURY IN 21 DEG FROM THE SUN. MERCURY IS 2ND LORD AND THEY GIVE RASI DRISTI ON THE 2ND HOUSE. I'M ASLO TOLD TO BE A GOOD COMMUNICATOR AND SPEAKER, EVEN IN ENGLISH LANGUAGE ALTHOUGH IT'S NOT MY MOTHER TONGUE. BUT IF YOU LOOK FOR THE NATIVE'S PROFESSION, FIND THE LORD OF THE VARNADA LAGNA. MY VL FOR EXAMPLE IS IN TAURUS, AND ITS LORD VENUS CONJOINS JUPITER (BRAHMINICAL ACTIVITY, E.G. TEACHING, PRIESTHOOD, ASTROLOGY) IN SCORPIO (BRAHMINICAL SIGN, MYSTICISM, PSYCHOLOGY, COUNSELLING). THUS IT DESCRIBES MY AREA OF ACTIVITY VERY APTLY. YOURS, Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer gauranga Jyotish Remedies: WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET Phone:+36-309-140-839 I look forward to your reply, Thnx Rgds Sai --- lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh wrote: > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > Namaste Vishal, > > > > Regarding Mercury, he's a karaka for intellect, but > then one can't be wise without being intelligent, > while one can be intelligent without being wise. > There's enough proof in the world for this. I always > felt that Jupiter presupposes & includes Mercury, > and the reverse is not true. > > > > Mercury as pure intellect is like a precocious & > impressionable child who needs a firm hand to guide > him and settle all that undulating energy into > lasting tasks. He needs the stern, disapproving but > concerned fathers/gurus like Sun, Jupiter & Saturn > around for that. I do concur with you that > intelligence ( effect of Nipuna yoga ) may not be > impaired because Mercury is combust. Only the > original flamboyance might be somewhat tempered into > a more conservative format. > > > > For example, in Einstein's chart, his 10th house has > a formidable line-up of planets, with so many > rajayogas. Nipuna yoga takes place in Jupiter's > house (pisces), Who's stationed in 9th house. Saturn > (9th lord) is in 10th house, in powerful parivartana > with Jupiter (7th & 10th Lord). Also, you can't > disregard the fact that the 5th & 12th lord Venus is > exalted and Sun (3rd lord) in 10th house has > digbala. So, Mercury was literally in the company of > giants! With them in control, Einstein's visionary > intellect was yoked to passionate wisdom & it made > him what he was and what he continues to mean to > generations of us. > > > > Great writing is enabled by exalted Jupiter, moon & > venus combo. Mercury does give ability to > communicate well, but in a frothy, light-hearted > way, unless otherwise influenced. > > > > By the way, thanx for making me look at Einstein's > chart. He's one of my all time fav guys! > > > > Regards, > > Lakshmi vbamba <vbamba wrote: > Hare Rama Krishna, > > dear lakshmi & partha, > > Interesting discussion. I disagree on some points > which I thought I > would bring up. > > - Lakshmi, you imply that your writing ability may > be impaired by Me > being combust. I do not think this is totally > accurate. Sun + Mercury > endows the native with Budhaditya yoga which may > make him/her > intellectually brilliant. Albert Einstein had this > combination with > Sun & Me in the 10th house. These results no doubt > will depend on > various other influences, however many grahas do > quite well even > though they may be technically combust. From what I > remember, you > have Mercury combust in Leo, which would probably > produce good > results as Sun is in his own house + in a kona. > > - I concur with Partha that a strong Mercury is > quite essential for > good writing & communication. Mercury provides this > expressive > ability. Jupiter grants wisdom & intelligence, but > without a strong > Mercury one will not be able to articulate oneself > with clarity. > > Vishal > > sjvc, "partvinu5" <partvinu5> > wrote: > > dear lakshmi > > > > you made me smile. Now you are a philospher > too(laughs). > > > > I have read few years in which classic(well i dont > remember), but > the > > statements were something like this for writing , > i will give you a > > gist > > > > a)jupiter and moon in konas produce good writers > > b) the same combination should be seen from lagna, > karakamsa lagna > > and navamsa lagna. > > > > > > the statement made me think a lot. because i > always thought > mercury > > was the guy who gives writing ability. When i > searched deeper, i > came > > to understand(that was 4 years ago), that moon > because of his > > creative ability and jupiter due to his innate > ability to visualise > > and understand the higher planes are deemed to be > good writers. > > > > ok that was good. But on further investigation i > found in many > > classics that mercury is the information > collecter, the person > > responsible for printing, publications and > writing. > > > > SO here i go. i integrate the two things as i am > working NOW FULL > > TIME AS A WRITER. > > > > mercury give journalism, writing careers, but to > be a great author > > one needs support of jupiter and moon. So for me > mercury is in > lagna, > > jupiter in 5th in aries, and moon in 10th in > virgo, confirming that > i > > can write for a living(laughs). But surely i can > never write as > > beautifully as you do (laughs), because for you > moon and jupiter > are > > strong but not mercury!!!!. > > BTW sun is for management kind of stuff, saturn is > for hard > writing, > > religious, melancholic etc > > regards > > partha > > > > > > sjvc, lakshmi ramesh > <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Partha, > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your suggestion. Though I work in a > Bank, I do have a > > legitimate platform to er.. wax eloquent, because > I am the editor > of > > an in house IT magazine. > > > > > > > > > > > > Partha, I have really been thinking hard about > Mercury being > karaka > > for writing, but some how I am not convinced. > Mercury symbolizes > > great information gathering & intelligent > processing capacity. He > === message truncated === Send FREE Valentine eCards with Greetings! http://greetings. 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Guest guest Posted February 7, 2002 Report Share Posted February 7, 2002 Hare Rama Krishna, Hi Lakshmi, I think we're close except for the part about Jupiter presupposing and including Mercury. Jupiter represents the cosmic or higher intelligence. His is the intelligence that is not formed from a theoretical knowledge, it just knows. Mercury on the other hand is more wordly in its working and as such represents how we interact with society (speech, writing, commerce). Thus a person may be very intelligent (strong Jupiter), but still not appear as such due to a weak Mercury (inability to express oneself). Thanks for pointing out the many strengths of Einstein's chart. He was no doubt one of the greatest - a scientist par excellence. Vishal sjvc, lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote: > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > Namaste Vishal, > > > > Regarding Mercury, he's a karaka for intellect, but then one can't be wise without being intelligent, while one can be intelligent without being wise. There's enough proof in the world for this. I always felt that Jupiter presupposes & includes Mercury, and the reverse is not true. > > > > Mercury as pure intellect is like a precocious & impressionable child who needs a firm hand to guide him and settle all that undulating energy into lasting tasks. He needs the stern, disapproving but concerned fathers/gurus like Sun, Jupiter & Saturn around for that. I do concur with you that intelligence ( effect of Nipuna yoga ) may not be impaired because Mercury is combust. Only the original flamboyance might be somewhat tempered into a more conservative format. > > > > For example, in Einstein's chart, his 10th house has a formidable line-up of planets, with so many rajayogas. Nipuna yoga takes place in Jupiter's house (pisces), Who's stationed in 9th house. Saturn (9th lord) is in 10th house, in powerful parivartana with Jupiter (7th & 10th Lord). Also, you can't disregard the fact that the 5th & 12th lord Venus is exalted and Sun (3rd lord) in 10th house has digbala. So, Mercury was literally in the company of giants! With them in control, Einstein's visionary intellect was yoked to passionate wisdom & it made him what he was and what he continues to mean to generations of us. > > > > Great writing is enabled by exalted Jupiter, moon & venus combo. Mercury does give ability to communicate well, but in a frothy, light- hearted way, unless otherwise influenced. > > > > By the way, thanx for making me look at Einstein's chart. He's one of my all time fav guys! > > > > Regards, > > Lakshmi vbamba <vbamba@m...> wrote: > Hare Rama Krishna, > > dear lakshmi & partha, > > Interesting discussion. I disagree on some points which I thought I > would bring up. > > - Lakshmi, you imply that your writing ability may be impaired by Me > being combust. I do not think this is totally accurate. Sun + Mercury > endows the native with Budhaditya yoga which may make him/her > intellectually brilliant. Albert Einstein had this combination with > Sun & Me in the 10th house. These results no doubt will depend on > various other influences, however many grahas do quite well even > though they may be technically combust. From what I remember, you > have Mercury combust in Leo, which would probably produce good > results as Sun is in his own house + in a kona. > > - I concur with Partha that a strong Mercury is quite essential for > good writing & communication. Mercury provides this expressive > ability. Jupiter grants wisdom & intelligence, but without a strong > Mercury one will not be able to articulate oneself with clarity. > > Vishal > > sjvc, "partvinu5" <partvinu5> wrote: > > dear lakshmi > > > > you made me smile. Now you are a philospher too(laughs). > > > > I have read few years in which classic(well i dont remember), but > the > > statements were something like this for writing , i will give you a > > gist > > > > a)jupiter and moon in konas produce good writers > > b) the same combination should be seen from lagna, karakamsa lagna > > and navamsa lagna. > > > > > > the statement made me think a lot. because i always thought > mercury > > was the guy who gives writing ability. When i searched deeper, i > came > > to understand(that was 4 years ago), that moon because of his > > creative ability and jupiter due to his innate ability to visualise > > and understand the higher planes are deemed to be good writers. > > > > ok that was good. But on further investigation i found in many > > classics that mercury is the information collecter, the person > > responsible for printing, publications and writing. > > > > SO here i go. i integrate the two things as i am working NOW FULL > > TIME AS A WRITER. > > > > mercury give journalism, writing careers, but to be a great author > > one needs support of jupiter and moon. So for me mercury is in > lagna, > > jupiter in 5th in aries, and moon in 10th in virgo, confirming that > i > > can write for a living(laughs). But surely i can never write as > > beautifully as you do (laughs), because for you moon and jupiter > are > > strong but not mercury!!!!. > > BTW sun is for management kind of stuff, saturn is for hard > writing, > > religious, melancholic etc > > regards > > partha > > > > > > sjvc, lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Partha, > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your suggestion. Though I work in a Bank, I do have a > > legitimate platform to er.. wax eloquent, because I am the editor > of > > an in house IT magazine. > > > > > > > > > > > > Partha, I have really been thinking hard about Mercury being > karaka > > for writing, but some how I am not convinced. Mercury symbolizes > > great information gathering & intelligent processing capacity. He > > also gives eloquence that can effectively package the output. But > is > > this enough? For any writing to be relevant, shouldn't there be > > something deep & universally valid within all that eloquence? And, > if > > those qualities are there, is the eloquence really necessary? > > > > > > > > > > > > For example, in "Gajendra Moksham" do you think that Gajendra > could > > have possibly made his appeal for help with great rhetoric and > > faultless syntax? His cry for help was hardly c > erebral…"kaavave > > (traahimaam) Varadaa"..is that of a child in trouble and the Lord > > rushed to him like a mother. Take Thyagaraaja's or Annamayya's > > keertanas…they portray great philosophical dilemmas and man's > > ceaseless search for Truth in such simple effortless language. The > > content is never dwarfed by the wordplay. And they are timeless in > > their appeal, because they touch the heart and celebrate the Truth > > within. Jupiter & Sun and Saturn, Partha, but I don't think > > Mercury….he's too light & effervescent. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Lakshmi > > > > > > > > > partvinu5 <partvinu5> wrote: > > > dear lakshmi > > > > > > d1 shows the overall aspects of life. d9 show the dharma of a > > person. > > > karakamsa analysis shows what the soul desires. but what is > > desirable > > > may not always fructify. thus if you have combust mercury, then > > > working as a writer might be difficult. But at the same time u > can > > > write for hooby or write as a part time. > > > > > > Look at dasamsa or d10 for career in writing. There might be many > > > fools like partha who are not really that eloquent but do become > > > authors due their karma(laughs). > > > > > > regards > > > partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sjvc, "Shailesh" <scchadha@h...> wrote: > > > > Namaste Lakshmi, > > > > > > > > First & foremost - I am not too confident about my > > interpretations, > > > SO USE WITH CARE. > > > > > > > > As I believe it: > > > > 1. Sanjay ji teachs that VE & ME do not get combust unless > > > retrograde. > > > > 2. What is true for D-9, also holds good for D-1. > > > > > > > > Based on the above, you need not worry reg. the combustion of > Me. > > > > > > > > Your D1 lagna has JU, MO & SA. Applying the rules for swamsa, > > > (1.2.103), an excellent author is indicated. (1.2.106) re- > confirms > > > it. > > > > > > > > But as per 1.2.107, you may not be very eloquent. 1.2.109 re- > > > confirms it, since SA in lagna give you stage-fright (I remeber > you > > > mentioned it in one of the recent mails). > > > > > > > > I request respected Gurus to confirm, or correct, my > > interpretation. > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > Shailesh > > > > scchadha@h... > > > > - > > > > lakshmi ramesh > > > > sjvc > > > > Sunday, February 03, 2002 6:47 AM > > > > Re: [sjvc] Re: Appearances-dear Lakshmi > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > Namaste Sailesh, > > > > > > > > I read the relevant chapters yesterday again. I do have > Jupiter > > > in trines to karakamsa, but in the 9th house, with Ketu. But he > > does > > > rule the 5th & 8th houses from karakamsa. > > > > > > > > I have exalted Mercury(Partha's right in a way) in the 2nd > from > > > karakamsa, with Saturn. But He's got the lowest shadbala strength > > and > > > is thoroughly combust in Rasi chart. How to interpret that? > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Lakshmi > > > > > > > > Shailesh <scchadha@h...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Partha & Laksmi, > > > > > > > > The following Jaimini Sutras, from Ch. 1, Qtr 2, are very > > > relevant to the subject. > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > Shailesh Chandra Chadha > > > > scchadha@h... > > > > > > > > SU. 102. If Chandra and Guru are in the Karakamsa or in the > > 5th > > > from it, the person will become an author and will live by > writing > > > books. > > > > > > > > SU. 103. If Chandra and Sukra join Karakamsa or the 5th > house > > > from it, the person becomes an ordinary author. > > > > > > > > SU. I 04.-The person becomes still less famous than in the > > > above Sutra if Budha joins Chandra instead of Sukra in Karakamsa > or > > > the 5th from it. > > > > > > > > SU. 105.-If Sukra joins Karakamsa, or the 5th from it, the > > > person becomes a great poet; an eloquent speaker and well versed > in > > > poetry and literature. > > > > > > > > SU. I06.If Guru joins the Karakamsa or the 5th from it, he > > will > > > be an all-round man and will know many branches of knowledge, > well > > > read in sciences and author of various works. He becomes a > > versatile > > > genius. > > > > > > > > SU. 107.-In the above combination of Guru, though a person > > > becomes learned he will not become a good speaker nor possess > > powers > > > of eloquence. > > > > > > > > SU. 108.-If Guru joins Karakamsa or the 5th from it, the > > person > > > becomes learned in Vyakarana or Grammar, Vedic literature and > > > Vedangas. > > > > > > > > - > > > > lakshmi ramesh > > > > sjvc > > > > Friday, February 01, 2002 1:07 PM > > > > Re: [sjvc] Re: Appearances-dear Lakshmi > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > Namaste Partha, > > > > > > > > I agree that Mercury must be strong for communication, > but > > > for creating immortal "master pieces" in writing, perhaps strong > > > Jupiter is necessary. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Lakshmi > > > > > > > > > > > > Terms of > > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------- -- > -- > > -- > > > ---------- > > > > > > > > Auctions Great stuff seeking new owners! 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Guest guest Posted February 8, 2002 Report Share Posted February 8, 2002 dear lakshmi by being a fellow jovian i could have agreed that jupiter is karaka for writing. But i am not that partial to my lagna lord. The important fact that i have observed is that jupiter is an advisor and mercury is the information carrier. if we read our mythology books then we could see why. mercury is supposed to be close to king, he is the guy who is known for his innate sense in policy making and carrying messages. To be diplomatic one needs the blessings of mercury and venus. The style of writing is always determined by the strongest planets. But that is not the point, but the point is whether we write after all. writing may be tempered due to the presence of other "Giants" but the need to write, the need to express in written form comes only because of mercury. The discussion is not regarding poetic beauty or lyrical supremancy. It is regarding the need for WRITING and that is always given by mercury. regards partha sjvc, "vbamba" <vbamba@m...> wrote: > Hare Rama Krishna, > > Hi Lakshmi, > > I think we're close except for the part about Jupiter presupposing > and including Mercury. Jupiter represents the cosmic or higher > intelligence. His is the intelligence that is not formed from a > theoretical knowledge, it just knows. Mercury on the other hand is > more wordly in its working and as such represents how we interact > with society (speech, writing, commerce). Thus a person may be very > intelligent (strong Jupiter), but still not appear as such due to a > weak Mercury (inability to express oneself). > > Thanks for pointing out the many strengths of Einstein's chart. He > was no doubt one of the greatest - a scientist par excellence. > > Vishal > > sjvc, lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote: > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > Namaste Vishal, > > > > > > > > Regarding Mercury, he's a karaka for intellect, but then one > can't > be wise without being intelligent, while one can be intelligent > without being wise. There's enough proof in the world for this. I > always felt that Jupiter presupposes & includes Mercury, and the > reverse is not true. > > > > > > > > Mercury as pure intellect is like a precocious & impressionable > child who needs a firm hand to guide him and settle all that > undulating energy into lasting tasks. He needs the stern, > disapproving but concerned fathers/gurus like Sun, Jupiter & Saturn > around for that. I do concur with you that intelligence ( effect of > Nipuna yoga ) may not be impaired because Mercury is combust. Only > the original flamboyance might be somewhat tempered into a more > conservative format. > > > > > > > > For example, in Einstein's chart, his 10th house has a > formidable > line-up of planets, with so many rajayogas. Nipuna yoga takes place > in Jupiter's house (pisces), Who's stationed in 9th house. > Saturn > (9th lord) is in 10th house, in powerful parivartana with Jupiter > (7th & 10th Lord). Also, you can't disregard the fact that the > 5th & > 12th lord Venus is exalted and Sun (3rd lord) in 10th house has > digbala. So, Mercury was literally in the company of giants! With > them in control, Einstein's visionary intellect was yoked to > passionate wisdom & it made him what he was and what he continues to > mean to generations of us. > > > > > > > > Great writing is enabled by exalted Jupiter, moon & venus combo. > Mercury does give ability to communicate well, but in a frothy, light- > hearted way, unless otherwise influenced. > > > > > > > > By the way, thanx for making me look at Einstein's chart. > He's one > of my all time fav guys! > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Lakshmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vbamba <vbamba@m...> wrote: > > Hare Rama Krishna, > > > > dear lakshmi & partha, > > > > Interesting discussion. I disagree on some points which I thought I > > would bring up. > > > > - Lakshmi, you imply that your writing ability may be impaired by > Me > > being combust. I do not think this is totally accurate. Sun + > Mercury > > endows the native with Budhaditya yoga which may make him/her > > intellectually brilliant. Albert Einstein had this combination with > > Sun & Me in the 10th house. These results no doubt will depend on > > various other influences, however many grahas do quite well even > > though they may be technically combust. From what I remember, you > > have Mercury combust in Leo, which would probably produce good > > results as Sun is in his own house + in a kona. > > > > - I concur with Partha that a strong Mercury is quite essential for > > good writing & communication. Mercury provides this expressive > > ability. Jupiter grants wisdom & intelligence, but without a strong > > Mercury one will not be able to articulate oneself with clarity. > > > > Vishal > > > > sjvc, "partvinu5" <partvinu5> wrote: > > > dear lakshmi > > > > > > you made me smile. Now you are a philospher too(laughs). > > > > > > I have read few years in which classic(well i dont remember), but > > the > > > statements were something like this for writing , i will give you > a > > > gist > > > > > > a)jupiter and moon in konas produce good writers > > > b) the same combination should be seen from lagna, karakamsa > lagna > > > and navamsa lagna. > > > > > > > > > the statement made me think a lot. because i always thought > > mercury > > > was the guy who gives writing ability. When i searched deeper, i > > came > > > to understand(that was 4 years ago), that moon because of his > > > creative ability and jupiter due to his innate ability to > visualise > > > and understand the higher planes are deemed to be good writers. > > > > > > ok that was good. But on further investigation i found in many > > > classics that mercury is the information collecter, the person > > > responsible for printing, publications and writing. > > > > > > SO here i go. i integrate the two things as i am working NOW FULL > > > TIME AS A WRITER. > > > > > > mercury give journalism, writing careers, but to be a great > author > > > one needs support of jupiter and moon. So for me mercury is in > > lagna, > > > jupiter in 5th in aries, and moon in 10th in virgo, confirming > that > > i > > > can write for a living(laughs). But surely i can never write as > > > beautifully as you do (laughs), because for you moon and jupiter > > are > > > strong but not mercury!!!!. > > > BTW sun is for management kind of stuff, saturn is for hard > > writing, > > > religious, melancholic etc > > > regards > > > partha > > > > > > > > > sjvc, lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Partha, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your suggestion. Though I work in a Bank, I do have > a > > > legitimate platform to er.. wax eloquent, because I am the > editor > > of > > > an in house IT magazine. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Partha, I have really been thinking hard about Mercury being > > karaka > > > for writing, but some how I am not convinced. Mercury symbolizes > > > great information gathering & intelligent processing capacity. He > > > also gives eloquence that can effectively package the output. But > > is > > > this enough? For any writing to be relevant, shouldn't there be > > > something deep & universally valid within all that eloquence? > And, > > if > > > those qualities are there, is the eloquence really necessary? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For example, in "Gajendra Moksham" do you think that Gajendra > > could > > > have possibly made his appeal for help with great rhetoric and > > > faultless syntax? His cry for help was hardly c > > erebral…"kaavave > > > (traahimaam) Varadaa"..is that of a child in trouble and the Lord > > > rushed to him like a mother. Take Thyagaraaja's or Annamayya's > > > keertanas…they portray great philosophical dilemmas and man's > > > ceaseless search for Truth in such simple effortless language. > The > > > content is never dwarfed by the wordplay. And they are timeless > in > > > their appeal, because they touch the heart and celebrate the > Truth > > > within. Jupiter & Sun and Saturn, Partha, but I don't think > > > Mercury….he's too light & effervescent. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Lakshmi > > > > > > > > > > > > partvinu5 <partvinu5> wrote: > > > > dear lakshmi > > > > > > > > d1 shows the overall aspects of life. d9 show the dharma of a > > > person. > > > > karakamsa analysis shows what the soul desires. but what is > > > desirable > > > > may not always fructify. thus if you have combust mercury, then > > > > working as a writer might be difficult. But at the same time u > > can > > > > write for hooby or write as a part time. > > > > > > > > Look at dasamsa or d10 for career in writing. There might be > many > > > > fools like partha who are not really that eloquent but do > become > > > > authors due their karma(laughs). > > > > > > > > regards > > > > partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sjvc, "Shailesh" <scchadha@h...> wrote: > > > > > Namaste Lakshmi, > > > > > > > > > > First & foremost - I am not too confident about my > > > interpretations, > > > > SO USE WITH CARE. > > > > > > > > > > As I believe it: > > > > > 1. Sanjay ji teachs that VE & ME do not get combust unless > > > > retrograde. > > > > > 2. What is true for D-9, also holds good for D-1. > > > > > > > > > > Based on the above, you need not worry reg. the combustion of > > Me. > > > > > > > > > > Your D1 lagna has JU, MO & SA. Applying the rules for swamsa, > > > > (1.2.103), an excellent author is indicated. (1.2.106) re- > > confirms > > > > it. > > > > > > > > > > But as per 1.2.107, you may not be very eloquent. 1.2.109 re- > > > > confirms it, since SA in lagna give you stage-fright (I remeber > > you > > > > mentioned it in one of the recent mails). > > > > > > > > > > I request respected Gurus to confirm, or correct, my > > > interpretation. > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > Shailesh > > > > > scchadha@h... > > > > > - > > > > > lakshmi ramesh > > > > > sjvc > > > > > Sunday, February 03, 2002 6:47 AM > > > > > Re: [sjvc] Re: Appearances-dear Lakshmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Sailesh, > > > > > > > > > > I read the relevant chapters yesterday again. I do have > > Jupiter > > > > in trines to karakamsa, but in the 9th house, with Ketu. But he > > > does > > > > rule the 5th & 8th houses from karakamsa. > > > > > > > > > > I have exalted Mercury(Partha's right in a way) in the 2nd > > from > > > > karakamsa, with Saturn. But He's got the lowest shadbala > strength > > > and > > > > is thoroughly combust in Rasi chart. How to interpret that? > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Lakshmi > > > > > > > > > > Shailesh <scchadha@h...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Partha & Laksmi, > > > > > > > > > > The following Jaimini Sutras, from Ch. 1, Qtr 2, are very > > > > relevant to the subject. > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > Shailesh Chandra Chadha > > > > > scchadha@h... > > > > > > > > > > SU. 102. If Chandra and Guru are in the Karakamsa or in > the > > > 5th > > > > from it, the person will become an author and will live by > > writing > > > > books. > > > > > > > > > > SU. 103. If Chandra and Sukra join Karakamsa or the 5th > > house > > > > from it, the person becomes an ordinary author. > > > > > > > > > > SU. I 04.-The person becomes still less famous than in > the > > > > above Sutra if Budha joins Chandra instead of Sukra in > Karakamsa > > or > > > > the 5th from it. > > > > > > > > > > SU. 105.-If Sukra joins Karakamsa, or the 5th from it, > the > > > > person becomes a great poet; an eloquent speaker and well > versed > > in > > > > poetry and literature. > > > > > > > > > > SU. I06.If Guru joins the Karakamsa or the 5th from it, > he > > > will > > > > be an all-round man and will know many branches of knowledge, > > well > > > > read in sciences and author of various works. He becomes a > > > versatile > > > > genius. > > > > > > > > > > SU. 107.-In the above combination of Guru, though a > person > > > > becomes learned he will not become a good speaker nor possess > > > powers > > > > of eloquence. > > > > > > > > > > SU. 108.-If Guru joins Karakamsa or the 5th from it, the > > > person > > > > becomes learned in Vyakarana or Grammar, Vedic literature and > > > > Vedangas. > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > lakshmi ramesh > > > > > sjvc > > > > > Friday, February 01, 2002 1:07 PM > > > > > Re: [sjvc] Re: Appearances-dear Lakshmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Partha, > > > > > > > > > > I agree that Mercury must be strong for communication, > > but > > > > for creating immortal "master pieces" in writing, perhaps > strong > > > > Jupiter is necessary. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Lakshmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Terms > of > > > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------- -- > -- > > -- > > > -- > > > > ---------- > > > > > > > > > > Auctions Great stuff seeking new owners! 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Guest guest Posted February 8, 2002 Report Share Posted February 8, 2002 Agreed. I have an example chart, libra asc with mercury in 8th with mars while jupiter is exalted and vargottama in 10th - extreme intelligence but hopeless at spoken expression and practical intelligence like doing taxes accounts etc which are much simpler. Very good at written expression though - as Jupiter rules the 3rd? Nimmi - "vbamba" <vbamba <sjvc> Friday, February 08, 2002 5:08 AM [sjvc] Re: Mercury--professions-dear Lakshmi Hare Rama Krishna, Hi Lakshmi, I think we're close except for the part about Jupiter presupposing and including Mercury. Jupiter represents the cosmic or higher intelligence. His is the intelligence that is not formed from a theoretical knowledge, it just knows. Mercury on the other hand is more wordly in its working and as such represents how we interact with society (speech, writing, commerce). Thus a person may be very intelligent (strong Jupiter), but still not appear as such due to a weak Mercury (inability to express oneself). Thanks for pointing out the many strengths of Einstein's chart. He was no doubt one of the greatest - a scientist par excellence. Vishal sjvc, lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote: > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > Namaste Vishal, > > > > Regarding Mercury, he's a karaka for intellect, but then one can't be wise without being intelligent, while one can be intelligent without being wise. There's enough proof in the world for this. I always felt that Jupiter presupposes & includes Mercury, and the reverse is not true. > > > > Mercury as pure intellect is like a precocious & impressionable child who needs a firm hand to guide him and settle all that undulating energy into lasting tasks. He needs the stern, disapproving but concerned fathers/gurus like Sun, Jupiter & Saturn around for that. I do concur with you that intelligence ( effect of Nipuna yoga ) may not be impaired because Mercury is combust. Only the original flamboyance might be somewhat tempered into a more conservative format. > > > > For example, in Einstein's chart, his 10th house has a formidable line-up of planets, with so many rajayogas. Nipuna yoga takes place in Jupiter's house (pisces), Who's stationed in 9th house. Saturn (9th lord) is in 10th house, in powerful parivartana with Jupiter (7th & 10th Lord). Also, you can't disregard the fact that the 5th & 12th lord Venus is exalted and Sun (3rd lord) in 10th house has digbala. So, Mercury was literally in the company of giants! With them in control, Einstein's visionary intellect was yoked to passionate wisdom & it made him what he was and what he continues to mean to generations of us. > > > > Great writing is enabled by exalted Jupiter, moon & venus combo. Mercury does give ability to communicate well, but in a frothy, light- hearted way, unless otherwise influenced. > > > > By the way, thanx for making me look at Einstein's chart. He's one of my all time fav guys! > > > > Regards, > > Lakshmi vbamba <vbamba@m...> wrote: > Hare Rama Krishna, > > dear lakshmi & partha, > > Interesting discussion. I disagree on some points which I thought I > would bring up. > > - Lakshmi, you imply that your writing ability may be impaired by Me > being combust. I do not think this is totally accurate. Sun + Mercury > endows the native with Budhaditya yoga which may make him/her > intellectually brilliant. Albert Einstein had this combination with > Sun & Me in the 10th house. These results no doubt will depend on > various other influences, however many grahas do quite well even > though they may be technically combust. From what I remember, you > have Mercury combust in Leo, which would probably produce good > results as Sun is in his own house + in a kona. > > - I concur with Partha that a strong Mercury is quite essential for > good writing & communication. Mercury provides this expressive > ability. Jupiter grants wisdom & intelligence, but without a strong > Mercury one will not be able to articulate oneself with clarity. > > Vishal > > sjvc, "partvinu5" <partvinu5> wrote: > > dear lakshmi > > > > you made me smile. Now you are a philospher too(laughs). > > > > I have read few years in which classic(well i dont remember), but > the > > statements were something like this for writing , i will give you a > > gist > > > > a)jupiter and moon in konas produce good writers > > b) the same combination should be seen from lagna, karakamsa lagna > > and navamsa lagna. > > > > > > the statement made me think a lot. because i always thought > mercury > > was the guy who gives writing ability. When i searched deeper, i > came > > to understand(that was 4 years ago), that moon because of his > > creative ability and jupiter due to his innate ability to visualise > > and understand the higher planes are deemed to be good writers. > > > > ok that was good. But on further investigation i found in many > > classics that mercury is the information collecter, the person > > responsible for printing, publications and writing. > > > > SO here i go. i integrate the two things as i am working NOW FULL > > TIME AS A WRITER. > > > > mercury give journalism, writing careers, but to be a great author > > one needs support of jupiter and moon. So for me mercury is in > lagna, > > jupiter in 5th in aries, and moon in 10th in virgo, confirming that > i > > can write for a living(laughs). But surely i can never write as > > beautifully as you do (laughs), because for you moon and jupiter > are > > strong but not mercury!!!!. > > BTW sun is for management kind of stuff, saturn is for hard > writing, > > religious, melancholic etc > > regards > > partha > > > > > > sjvc, lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Partha, > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your suggestion. Though I work in a Bank, I do have a > > legitimate platform to er.. wax eloquent, because I am the editor > of > > an in house IT magazine. > > > > > > > > > > > > Partha, I have really been thinking hard about Mercury being > karaka > > for writing, but some how I am not convinced. Mercury symbolizes > > great information gathering & intelligent processing capacity. He > > also gives eloquence that can effectively package the output. But > is > > this enough? For any writing to be relevant, shouldn't there be > > something deep & universally valid within all that eloquence? And, > if > > those qualities are there, is the eloquence really necessary? > > > > > > > > > > > > For example, in "Gajendra Moksham" do you think that Gajendra > could > > have possibly made his appeal for help with great rhetoric and > > faultless syntax? His cry for help was hardly c > erebral."kaavave > > (traahimaam) Varadaa"..is that of a child in trouble and the Lord > > rushed to him like a mother. Take Thyagaraaja's or Annamayya's > > keertanas.they portray great philosophical dilemmas and man's > > ceaseless search for Truth in such simple effortless language. The > > content is never dwarfed by the wordplay. And they are timeless in > > their appeal, because they touch the heart and celebrate the Truth > > within. Jupiter & Sun and Saturn, Partha, but I don't think > > Mercury..he's too light & effervescent. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Lakshmi > > > > > > > > > partvinu5 <partvinu5> wrote: > > > dear lakshmi > > > > > > d1 shows the overall aspects of life. d9 show the dharma of a > > person. > > > karakamsa analysis shows what the soul desires. but what is > > desirable > > > may not always fructify. thus if you have combust mercury, then > > > working as a writer might be difficult. But at the same time u > can > > > write for hooby or write as a part time. > > > > > > Look at dasamsa or d10 for career in writing. There might be many > > > fools like partha who are not really that eloquent but do become > > > authors due their karma(laughs). > > > > > > regards > > > partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sjvc, "Shailesh" <scchadha@h...> wrote: > > > > Namaste Lakshmi, > > > > > > > > First & foremost - I am not too confident about my > > interpretations, > > > SO USE WITH CARE. > > > > > > > > As I believe it: > > > > 1. Sanjay ji teachs that VE & ME do not get combust unless > > > retrograde. > > > > 2. What is true for D-9, also holds good for D-1. > > > > > > > > Based on the above, you need not worry reg. the combustion of > Me. > > > > > > > > Your D1 lagna has JU, MO & SA. Applying the rules for swamsa, > > > (1.2.103), an excellent author is indicated. (1.2.106) re- > confirms > > > it. > > > > > > > > But as per 1.2.107, you may not be very eloquent. 1.2.109 re- > > > confirms it, since SA in lagna give you stage-fright (I remeber > you > > > mentioned it in one of the recent mails). > > > > > > > > I request respected Gurus to confirm, or correct, my > > interpretation. > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > Shailesh > > > > scchadha@h... > > > > - > > > > lakshmi ramesh > > > > sjvc > > > > Sunday, February 03, 2002 6:47 AM > > > > Re: [sjvc] Re: Appearances-dear Lakshmi > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > Namaste Sailesh, > > > > > > > > I read the relevant chapters yesterday again. I do have > Jupiter > > > in trines to karakamsa, but in the 9th house, with Ketu. But he > > does > > > rule the 5th & 8th houses from karakamsa. > > > > > > > > I have exalted Mercury(Partha's right in a way) in the 2nd > from > > > karakamsa, with Saturn. But He's got the lowest shadbala strength > > and > > > is thoroughly combust in Rasi chart. How to interpret that? > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Lakshmi > > > > > > > > Shailesh <scchadha@h...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Partha & Laksmi, > > > > > > > > The following Jaimini Sutras, from Ch. 1, Qtr 2, are very > > > relevant to the subject. > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > Shailesh Chandra Chadha > > > > scchadha@h... > > > > > > > > SU. 102. If Chandra and Guru are in the Karakamsa or in the > > 5th > > > from it, the person will become an author and will live by > writing > > > books. > > > > > > > > SU. 103. If Chandra and Sukra join Karakamsa or the 5th > house > > > from it, the person becomes an ordinary author. > > > > > > > > SU. I 04.-The person becomes still less famous than in the > > > above Sutra if Budha joins Chandra instead of Sukra in Karakamsa > or > > > the 5th from it. > > > > > > > > SU. 105.-If Sukra joins Karakamsa, or the 5th from it, the > > > person becomes a great poet; an eloquent speaker and well versed > in > > > poetry and literature. > > > > > > > > SU. I06.If Guru joins the Karakamsa or the 5th from it, he > > will > > > be an all-round man and will know many branches of knowledge, > well > > > read in sciences and author of various works. He becomes a > > versatile > > > genius. > > > > > > > > SU. 107.-In the above combination of Guru, though a person > > > becomes learned he will not become a good speaker nor possess > > powers > > > of eloquence. > > > > > > > > SU. 108.-If Guru joins Karakamsa or the 5th from it, the > > person > > > becomes learned in Vyakarana or Grammar, Vedic literature and > > > Vedangas. > > > > > > > > - > > > > lakshmi ramesh > > > > sjvc > > > > Friday, February 01, 2002 1:07 PM > > > > Re: [sjvc] Re: Appearances-dear Lakshmi > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > Namaste Partha, > > > > > > > > I agree that Mercury must be strong for communication, > but > > > for creating immortal "master pieces" in writing, perhaps strong > > > Jupiter is necessary. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Lakshmi > > > > > > > > > > > > Terms of > > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------- -- > -- > > -- > > > ---------- > > > > > > > > Auctions Great stuff seeking new owners! 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Guest guest Posted February 8, 2002 Report Share Posted February 8, 2002 Namaste, I just wish you had seen my many posts on Saturn before you made this statement, Partha, and he's a first rate maraka for us(saggies). And, having him in lagna and coping with the delays he induces is not easy. Yet, I have written more about him & Sun than I ever did about Jupiter. I always said Mercury does give writing ability, well compulsive if you so insist, but a little discipline that gives a lot of direction, is it bad? Infact, that's what Budhaditya yoga does, no? Regards, Lakshmi partvinu5 <partvinu5 > wrote: dear lakshmiby being a fellow jovian i could have agreed that jupiter is karaka for writing. But i am not that partial to my lagna lord. The important fact that i have observed is that jupiter is an advisor and mercury is the information carrier. if we read our mythology books then we could see why. mercury is supposed to be close to king, he is the guy who is known for his innate sense in policy making and carrying messages. To be diplomatic one needs the blessings of mercury and venus. The style of writing is always determined by the strongest planets. But that is not the point, but the point is whether we write after all. writing may be tempered due to the presence of other "Giants" but the need to write, the need to express in written form comes only because of mercury. The discussion is not regarding poetic beauty or lyrical supremancy. It is regarding the need for WRITING and that is always given by mercury.regardsparthasjvc, "vbamba" <vbamba@m...> wrote:> Hare Rama Krishna,> > Hi Lakshmi,> > I think we're close except for the part about Jupiter presupposing > and including Mercury. Jupiter represents the cosmic or higher > intelligence. His is the intelligence that is not formed from a > theoretical knowledge, it just knows. Mercury on the other hand is > more wordly in its working and as such represents how we interact > with society (speech, writing, commerce). Thus a person may be very > intelligent (strong Jupiter), but still not appear as such due to a > weak Mercury (inability to express oneself).> > Thanks for pointing out the many strengths of Einstein's chart. He > was no doubt one of the greatest - a scientist par excellence.> > Vishal> > sjvc, lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote:> > > > > > Om Gurave Namah> > > > > > > > Namaste Vishal,> > > > > > > > Regarding Mercury, he's a karaka for intellect, but then one> can't > be wise without being intelligent, while one can be intelligent > without being wise. There's enough proof in the world for this. I > always felt that Jupiter presupposes & includes Mercury, and the > reverse is not true.> > > > > > > > Mercury as pure intellect is like a precocious & impressionable > child who needs a firm hand to guide him and settle all that > undulating energy into lasting tasks. He needs the stern, > disapproving but concerned fathers/gurus like Sun, Jupiter & Saturn > around for that. I do concur with you that intelligence ( effect of > Nipuna yoga ) may not be impaired because Mercury is combust. Only > the original flamboyance might be somewhat tempered into a more > conservative format. > > > > > > > > For example, in Einstein's chart, his 10th house has a> formidable > line-up of planets, with so many rajayogas. Nipuna yoga takes place > in Jupiter's house (pisces), Who's stationed in 9th house.> Saturn > (9th lord) is in 10th house, in powerful parivartana with Jupiter > (7th & 10th Lord). Also, you can't disregard the fact that the> 5th & > 12th lord Venus is exalted and Sun (3rd lord) in 10th house has > digbala. So, Mercury was literally in the company of giants! With > them in control, Einstein's visionary intellect was yoked to > passionate wisdom & it made him what he was and what he continues to > mean to generations of us. > > > > > > > > Great writing is enabled by exalted Jupiter, moon & venus combo. > Mercury does give ability to communicate well, but in a frothy, light-> hearted way, unless otherwise influenced. > > > > > > > > By the way, thanx for making me look at Einstein's chart.> He's one > of my all time fav guys! > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > Lakshmi> > > > > > > > > > > > > > vbamba <vbamba@m...> wrote: > > Hare Rama Krishna,> > > > dear lakshmi & partha,> > > > Interesting discussion. I disagree on some points which I thought I > > would bring up.> > > > - Lakshmi, you imply that your writing ability may be impaired by > Me > > being combust. I do not think this is totally accurate. Sun + > Mercury > > endows the native with Budhaditya yoga which may make him/her > > intellectually brilliant. Albert Einstein had this combination with > > Sun & Me in the 10th house. These results no doubt will depend on > > various other influences, however many grahas do quite well even > > though they may be technically combust. From what I remember, you > > have Mercury combust in Leo, which would probably produce good > > results as Sun is in his own house + in a kona.> > > > - I concur with Partha that a strong Mercury is quite essential for > > good writing & communication. Mercury provides this expressive > > ability. Jupiter grants wisdom & intelligence, but without a strong > > Mercury one will not be able to articulate oneself with clarity.> > > > Vishal> > > > sjvc, "partvinu5" <partvinu5> wrote:> > > dear lakshmi> > > > > > you made me smile. Now you are a philospher too(laughs).> > > > > > I have read few years in which classic(well i dont remember), but > > the > > > statements were something like this for writing , i will give you > a > > > gist> > > > > > a)jupiter and moon in konas produce good writers> > > b) the same combination should be seen from lagna, karakamsa > lagna > > > and navamsa lagna.> > > > > > > > > the statement made me think a lot. because i always thought > > mercury > > > was the guy who gives writing ability. When i searched deeper, i > > came > > > to understand(that was 4 years ago), that moon because of his > > > creative ability and jupiter due to his innate ability to > visualise > > > and understand the higher planes are deemed to be good writers.> > > > > > ok that was good. But on further investigation i found in many > > > classics that mercury is the information collecter, the person > > > responsible for printing, publications and writing.> > > > > > SO here i go. i integrate the two things as i am working NOW FULL > > > TIME AS A WRITER.> > > > > > mercury give journalism, writing careers, but to be a great > author > > > one needs support of jupiter and moon. So for me mercury is in > > lagna, > > > jupiter in 5th in aries, and moon in 10th in virgo, confirming > that > > i > > > can write for a living(laughs). But surely i can never write as > > > beautifully as you do (laughs), because for you moon and jupiter > > are > > > strong but not mercury!!!!.> > > BTW sun is for management kind of stuff, saturn is for hard > > writing, > > > religious, melancholic etc> > > regards> > > partha> > > > > > > > > sjvc, lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Partha,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your suggestion. Though I work in a Bank, I do have > a > > > legitimate platform to er.. wax eloquent, because I am the > editor > > of > > > an in house IT magazine. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Partha, I have really been thinking hard about Mercury being > > karaka > > > for writing, but some how I am not convinced. Mercury symbolizes > > > great information gathering & intelligent processing capacity. He > > > also gives eloquence that can effectively package the output. But > > is > > > this enough? For any writing to be relevant, shouldn't there be > > > something deep & universally valid within all that eloquence? > And, > > if > > > those qualities are there, is the eloquence really necessary? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For example, in "Gajendra Moksham" do you think that Gajendra > > could > > > have possibly made his appeal for help with great rhetoric and > > > faultless syntax? His cry for help was hardly c> > erebral…"kaavave > > > (traahimaam) Varadaa"..is that of a child in trouble and the Lord > > > rushed to him like a mother. Take Thyagaraaja's or Annamayya's > > > keertanas…they portray great philosophical dilemmas and man's > > > ceaseless search for Truth in such simple effortless language. > The > > > content is never dwarfed by the wordplay. And they are timeless > in > > > their appeal, because they touch the heart and celebrate the > Truth > > > within. Jupiter & Sun and Saturn, Partha, but I don't think > > > Mercury….he's too light & effervescent.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > Lakshmi> > > > > > > > > > > > partvinu5 <partvinu5> wrote: > > > > dear lakshmi> > > > > > > > d1 shows the overall aspects of life. d9 show the dharma of a > > > person. > > > > karakamsa analysis shows what the soul desires. but what is > > > desirable > > > > may not always fructify. thus if you have combust mercury, then > > > > working as a writer might be difficult. But at the same time u > > can > > > > write for hooby or write as a part time.> > > > > > > > Look at dasamsa or d10 for career in writing. There might be > many > > > > fools like partha who are not really that eloquent but do > become > > > > authors due their karma(laughs).> > > > > > > > regards> > > > partha> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sjvc, "Shailesh" <scchadha@h...> wrote:> > > > > Namaste Lakshmi,> > > > > > > > > > First & foremost - I am not too confident about my > > > interpretations, > > > > SO USE WITH CARE.> > > > > > > > > > As I believe it:> > > > > 1. Sanjay ji teachs that VE & ME do not get combust unless > > > > retrograde.> > > > > 2. What is true for D-9, also holds good for D-1.> > > > > > > > > > Based on the above, you need not worry reg. the combustion of > > Me.> > > > > > > > > > Your D1 lagna has JU, MO & SA. Applying the rules for swamsa,> > > > (1.2.103), an excellent author is indicated. (1.2.106) re-> > confirms > > > > it. > > > > > > > > > > But as per 1.2.107, you may not be very eloquent. 1.2.109 re-> > > > confirms it, since SA in lagna give you stage-fright (I remeber > > you > > > > mentioned it in one of the recent mails).> > > > > > > > > > I request respected Gurus to confirm, or correct, my > > > interpretation.> > > > > > > > > > Best wishes,> > > > > > > > > > Shailesh > > > > > scchadha@h...> > > > > - > > > > > lakshmi ramesh > > > > > sjvc > > > > > Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2002 6:47 AM> > > > > Re: [sjvc] Re: Appearances-dear Lakshmi> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Sailesh, > > > > > > > > > > I read the relevant chapters yesterday again. I do have > > Jupiter > > > > in trines to karakamsa, but in the 9th house, with Ketu. But he > > > does > > > > rule the 5th & 8th houses from karakamsa. > > > > > > > > > > I have exalted Mercury(Partha's right in a way) in the 2nd > > from > > > > karakamsa, with Saturn. But He's got the lowest shadbala > strength > > > and > > > > is thoroughly combust in Rasi chart. How to interpret that? > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Lakshmi > > > > > > > > > > Shailesh <scchadha@h...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Partha & Laksmi,> > > > > > > > > > The following Jaimini Sutras, from Ch. 1, Qtr 2, are very > > > > relevant to the subject.> > > > > > > > > > Best wishes,> > > > > > > > > > Shailesh Chandra Chadha> > > > > scchadha@h...> > > > > > > > > > SU. 102. If Chandra and Guru are in the Karakamsa or in > the > > > 5th > > > > from it, the person will become an author and will live by > > writing > > > > books.> > > > > > > > > > SU. 103. If Chandra and Sukra join Karakamsa or the 5th > > house > > > > from it, the person becomes an ordinary author.> > > > > > > > > > SU. I 04.-The person becomes still less famous than in > the > > > > above Sutra if Budha joins Chandra instead of Sukra in > Karakamsa > > or > > > > the 5th from it.> > > > > > > > > > SU. 105.-If Sukra joins Karakamsa, or the 5th from it, > the > > > > person becomes a great poet; an eloquent speaker and well > versed > > in > > > > poetry and literature.> > > > > > > > > > SU. I06.If Guru joins the Karakamsa or the 5th from it, > he > > > will > > > > be an all-round man and will know many branches of knowledge, > > well > > > > read in sciences and author of various works. He becomes a > > > versatile > > > > genius.> > > > > > > > > > SU. 107.-In the above combination of Guru, though a > person > > > > becomes learned he will not become a good speaker nor possess > > > powers > > > > of eloquence.> > > > > > > > > > SU. 108.-If Guru joins Karakamsa or the 5th from it, the > > > person > > > > becomes learned in Vyakarana or Grammar, Vedic literature and > > > > Vedangas.> > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > lakshmi ramesh > > > > > sjvc > > > > > Friday, February 01, 2002 1:07 PM> > > > > Re: [sjvc] Re: Appearances-dear Lakshmi> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Partha, > > > > > > > > > > I agree that Mercury must be strong for communication, > > but > > > > for creating immortal "master pieces" in writing, perhaps > strong > > > > Jupiter is necessary. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Lakshmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Terms > of > > > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----------------------------> --> > --> > > --> > > > ----------> > > > > > > > > > Auctions Great stuff seeking new owners! 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Guest guest Posted February 8, 2002 Report Share Posted February 8, 2002 dear lakshmi in a typical jovian style u have helped me and i cant say anything further(laughs)(for the software). ok baba i agree to u. regards partha ps: btw saturn is very persistent for u it is in lagna and for me he is in 8th aspecting karma. sjvc, lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote: > > Om Gurave Namah > Namaste, > I just wish you had seen my many posts on Saturn before you made this statement, Partha, and he's a first rate maraka for us(saggies). And, having him in lagna and coping with the delays he induces is not easy. Yet, I have written more about him & Sun than I ever did about Jupiter. > I always said Mercury does give writing ability, well compulsive if you so insist, but a little discipline that gives a lot of direction, is it bad? Infact, that's what Budhaditya yoga does, no? > Regards, > Lakshmi > partvinu5 <partvinu5> wrote: dear lakshmi > > by being a fellow jovian i could have agreed that jupiter is karaka > for writing. But i am not that partial to my lagna lord. The > important fact that i have observed is that jupiter is an advisor and > mercury is the information carrier. if we read our mythology books > then we could see why. mercury is supposed to be close to king, he is > the guy who is known for his innate sense in policy making and > carrying messages. To be diplomatic one needs the blessings of > mercury and venus. The style of writing is always determined by the > strongest planets. But that is not the point, but the point is > whether we write after all. writing may be tempered due to the > presence of other "Giants" but the need to write, the need to express > in written form comes only because of mercury. The discussion is not > regarding poetic beauty or lyrical supremancy. It is regarding the > need for WRITING and that is always given by mercury. > > regards > partha > > sjvc, "vbamba" <vbamba@m...> wrote: > > Hare Rama Krishna, > > > > Hi Lakshmi, > > > > I think we're close except for the part about Jupiter presupposing > > and including Mercury. Jupiter represents the cosmic or higher > > intelligence. His is the intelligence that is not formed from a > > theoretical knowledge, it just knows. Mercury on the other hand is > > more wordly in its working and as such represents how we interact > > with society (speech, writing, commerce). Thus a person may be very > > intelligent (strong Jupiter), but still not appear as such due to a > > weak Mercury (inability to express oneself). > > > > Thanks for pointing out the many strengths of Einstein's chart. He > > was no doubt one of the greatest - a scientist par excellence. > > > > Vishal > > > > sjvc, lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Vishal, > > > > > > > > > > > > Regarding Mercury, he's a karaka for intellect, but then one > > can't > > be wise without being intelligent, while one can be intelligent > > without being wise. There's enough proof in the world for this. I > > always felt that Jupiter presupposes & includes Mercury, and the > > reverse is not true. > > > > > > > > > > > > Mercury as pure intellect is like a precocious & impressionable > > child who needs a firm hand to guide him and settle all that > > undulating energy into lasting tasks. He needs the stern, > > disapproving but concerned fathers/gurus like Sun, Jupiter & Saturn > > around for that. I do concur with you that intelligence ( effect of > > Nipuna yoga ) may not be impaired because Mercury is combust. Only > > the original flamboyance might be somewhat tempered into a more > > conservative format. > > > > > > > > > > > > For example, in Einstein's chart, his 10th house has a > > formidable > > line-up of planets, with so many rajayogas. Nipuna yoga takes place > > in Jupiter's house (pisces), Who's stationed in 9th house. > > Saturn > > (9th lord) is in 10th house, in powerful parivartana with Jupiter > > (7th & 10th Lord). Also, you can't disregard the fact that the > > 5th & > > 12th lord Venus is exalted and Sun (3rd lord) in 10th house has > > digbala. So, Mercury was literally in the company of giants! With > > them in control, Einstein's visionary intellect was yoked to > > passionate wisdom & it made him what he was and what he continues > to > > mean to generations of us. > > > > > > > > > > > > Great writing is enabled by exalted Jupiter, moon & venus combo. > > Mercury does give ability to communicate well, but in a frothy, > light- > > hearted way, unless otherwise influenced. > > > > > > > > > > > > By the way, thanx for making me look at Einstein's chart. > > He's one > > of my all time fav guys! > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Lakshmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vbamba <vbamba@m...> wrote: > > > Hare Rama Krishna, > > > > > > dear lakshmi & partha, > > > > > > Interesting discussion. I disagree on some points which I thought > I > > > would bring up. > > > > > > - Lakshmi, you imply that your writing ability may be impaired by > > Me > > > being combust. I do not think this is totally accurate. Sun + > > Mercury > > > endows the native with Budhaditya yoga which may make him/her > > > intellectually brilliant. Albert Einstein had this combination > with > > > Sun & Me in the 10th house. These results no doubt will depend on > > > various other influences, however many grahas do quite well even > > > though they may be technically combust. From what I remember, you > > > have Mercury combust in Leo, which would probably produce good > > > results as Sun is in his own house + in a kona. > > > > > > - I concur with Partha that a strong Mercury is quite essential > for > > > good writing & communication. Mercury provides this expressive > > > ability. Jupiter grants wisdom & intelligence, but without a > strong > > > Mercury one will not be able to articulate oneself with clarity. > > > > > > Vishal > > > > > > sjvc, "partvinu5" <partvinu5> wrote: > > > > dear lakshmi > > > > > > > > you made me smile. Now you are a philospher too(laughs). > > > > > > > > I have read few years in which classic(well i dont remember), > but > > > the > > > > statements were something like this for writing , i will give > you > > a > > > > gist > > > > > > > > a)jupiter and moon in konas produce good writers > > > > b) the same combination should be seen from lagna, karakamsa > > lagna > > > > and navamsa lagna. > > > > > > > > > > > > the statement made me think a lot. because i always thought > > > mercury > > > > was the guy who gives writing ability. When i searched deeper, > i > > > came > > > > to understand(that was 4 years ago), that moon because of his > > > > creative ability and jupiter due to his innate ability to > > visualise > > > > and understand the higher planes are deemed to be good writers. > > > > > > > > ok that was good. But on further investigation i found in many > > > > classics that mercury is the information collecter, the person > > > > responsible for printing, publications and writing. > > > > > > > > SO here i go. i integrate the two things as i am working NOW > FULL > > > > TIME AS A WRITER. > > > > > > > > mercury give journalism, writing careers, but to be a great > > author > > > > one needs support of jupiter and moon. So for me mercury is in > > > lagna, > > > > jupiter in 5th in aries, and moon in 10th in virgo, confirming > > that > > > i > > > > can write for a living(laughs). But surely i can never write as > > > > beautifully as you do (laughs), because for you moon and > jupiter > > > are > > > > strong but not mercury!!!!. > > > > BTW sun is for management kind of stuff, saturn is for hard > > > writing, > > > > religious, melancholic etc > > > > regards > > > > partha > > > > > > > > > > > > sjvc, lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Partha, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your suggestion. Though I work in a Bank, I do > have > > a > > > > legitimate platform to er.. wax eloquent, because I am the > > editor > > > of > > > > an in house IT magazine. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Partha, I have really been thinking hard about Mercury being > > > karaka > > > > for writing, but some how I am not convinced. Mercury > symbolizes > > > > great information gathering & intelligent processing capacity. > He > > > > also gives eloquence that can effectively package the output. > But > > > is > > > > this enough? For any writing to be relevant, shouldn't there be > > > > something deep & universally valid within all that eloquence? > > And, > > > if > > > > those qualities are there, is the eloquence really necessary? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For example, in "Gajendra Moksham" do you think that Gajendra > > > could > > > > have possibly made his appeal for help with great rhetoric and > > > > faultless syntax? His cry for help was hardly c > > > erebral…"kaavave > > > > (traahimaam) Varadaa"..is that of a child in trouble and the > Lord > > > > rushed to him like a mother. Take Thyagaraaja's or Annamayya's > > > > keertanas…they portray great philosophical dilemmas and man's > > > > ceaseless search for Truth in such simple effortless language. > > The > > > > content is never dwarfed by the wordplay. And they are timeless > > in > > > > their appeal, because they touch the heart and celebrate the > > Truth > > > > within. Jupiter & Sun and Saturn, Partha, but I don't think > > > > Mercury….he's too light & effervescent. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Lakshmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > partvinu5 <partvinu5> wrote: > > > > > dear lakshmi > > > > > > > > > > d1 shows the overall aspects of life. d9 show the dharma of a > > > > person. > > > > > karakamsa analysis shows what the soul desires. but what is > > > > desirable > > > > > may not always fructify. thus if you have combust mercury, > then > > > > > working as a writer might be difficult. But at the same time > u > > > can > > > > > write for hooby or write as a part time. > > > > > > > > > > Look at dasamsa or d10 for career in writing. There might be > > many > > > > > fools like partha who are not really that eloquent but do > > become > > > > > authors due their karma(laughs). > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sjvc, "Shailesh" <scchadha@h...> wrote: > > > > > > Namaste Lakshmi, > > > > > > > > > > > > First & foremost - I am not too confident about my > > > > interpretations, > > > > > SO USE WITH CARE. > > > > > > > > > > > > As I believe it: > > > > > > 1. Sanjay ji teachs that VE & ME do not get combust unless > > > > > retrograde. > > > > > > 2. What is true for D-9, also holds good for D-1. > > > > > > > > > > > > Based on the above, you need not worry reg. the combustion > of > > > Me. > > > > > > > > > > > > Your D1 lagna has JU, MO & SA. Applying the rules for > swamsa, > > > > > (1.2.103), an excellent author is indicated. (1.2.106) re- > > > confirms > > > > > it. > > > > > > > > > > > > But as per 1.2.107, you may not be very eloquent. 1.2.109 > re- > > > > > confirms it, since SA in lagna give you stage-fright (I > remeber > > > you > > > > > mentioned it in one of the recent mails). > > > > > > > > > > > > I request respected Gurus to confirm, or correct, my > > > > interpretation. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > Shailesh > > > > > > scchadha@h... > > > > > > - > > > > > > lakshmi ramesh > > > > > > sjvc > > > > > > Sunday, February 03, 2002 6:47 AM > > > > > > Re: [sjvc] Re: Appearances-dear Lakshmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Sailesh, > > > > > > > > > > > > I read the relevant chapters yesterday again. I do have > > > Jupiter > > > > > in trines to karakamsa, but in the 9th house, with Ketu. But > he > > > > does > > > > > rule the 5th & 8th houses from karakamsa. > > > > > > > > > > > > I have exalted Mercury(Partha's right in a way) in the > 2nd > > > from > > > > > karakamsa, with Saturn. But He's got the lowest shadbala > > strength > > > > and > > > > > is thoroughly combust in Rasi chart. How to interpret that? > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Lakshmi > > > > > > > > > > > > Shailesh <scchadha@h...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Partha & Laksmi, > > > > > > > > > > > > The following Jaimini Sutras, from Ch. 1, Qtr 2, are > very > > > > > relevant to the subject. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > Shailesh Chandra Chadha > > > > > > scchadha@h... > > > > > > > > > > > > SU. 102. If Chandra and Guru are in the Karakamsa or in > > the > > > > 5th > > > > > from it, the person will become an author and will live by > > > writing > > > > > books. > > > > > > > > > > > > SU. 103. If Chandra and Sukra join Karakamsa or the 5th > > > house > > > > > from it, the person becomes an ordinary author. > > > > > > > > > > > > SU. I 04.-The person becomes still less famous than in > > the > > > > > above Sutra if Budha joins Chandra instead of Sukra in > > Karakamsa > > > or > > > > > the 5th from it. > > > > > > > > > > > > SU. 105.-If Sukra joins Karakamsa, or the 5th from it, > > the > > > > > person becomes a great poet; an eloquent speaker and well > > versed > > > in > > > > > poetry and literature. > > > > > > > > > > > > SU. I06.If Guru joins the Karakamsa or the 5th from it, > > he > > > > will > > > > > be an all-round man and will know many branches of knowledge, > > > well > > > > > read in sciences and author of various works. He becomes a > > > > versatile > > > > > genius. > > > > > > > > > > > > SU. 107.-In the above combination of Guru, though a > > person > > > > > becomes learned he will not become a good speaker nor possess > > > > powers > > > > > of eloquence. > > > > > > > > > > > > SU. 108.-If Guru joins Karakamsa or the 5th from it, > the > > > > person > > > > > becomes learned in Vyakarana or Grammar, Vedic literature and > > > > > Vedangas. > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > lakshmi ramesh > > > > > > sjvc > > > > > > Friday, February 01, 2002 1:07 PM > > > > > > Re: [sjvc] Re: Appearances-dear Lakshmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Partha, > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree that Mercury must be strong for > communication, > > > but > > > > > for creating immortal "master pieces" in writing, perhaps > > strong > > > > > Jupiter is necessary. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Lakshmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Terms > > of > > > > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------- -- > -- > > -- > > > -- > > > > -- > > > > > ---------- > > > > > > > > > > > > Auctions Great stuff seeking new owners! 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Guest guest Posted February 8, 2002 Report Share Posted February 8, 2002 Dear Lakshmi, Namaste, Have you seen the post "JUPITER vs MERCURY" in Varahamihira archives? It is a discussion between Sanjay ji & Narasimha Rao & is very instructive. Best wishes Shailesh - lakshmi ramesh sjvc Saturday, February 09, 2002 2:38 AM Re: [sjvc] Re: Mercury--professions-dear Lakshmi Om Gurave Namah Namaste, I just wish you had seen my many posts on Saturn before you made this statement, Partha, and he's a first rate maraka for us(saggies). And, having him in lagna and coping with the delays he induces is not easy. Yet, I have written more about him & Sun than I ever did about Jupiter. I always said Mercury does give writing ability, well compulsive if you so insist, but a little discipline that gives a lot of direction, is it bad? Infact, that's what Budhaditya yoga does, no? Regards, Lakshmi partvinu5 <partvinu5 > wrote: dear lakshmiby being a fellow jovian i could have agreed that jupiter is karaka for writing. But i am not that partial to my lagna lord. The important fact that i have observed is that jupiter is an advisor and mercury is the information carrier. if we read our mythology books then we could see why. mercury is supposed to be close to king, he is the guy who is known for his innate sense in policy making and carrying messages. To be diplomatic one needs the blessings of mercury and venus. The style of writing is always determined by the strongest planets. But that is not the point, but the point is whether we write after all. writing may be tempered due to the presence of other "Giants" but the need to write, the need to express in written form comes only because of mercury. The discussion is not regarding poetic beauty or lyrical supremancy. It is regarding the need for WRITING and that is always given by mercury.regardsparthasjvc, "vbamba" <vbamba@m...> wrote:> Hare Rama Krishna,> > Hi Lakshmi,> > I think we're close except for the part about Jupiter presupposing > and including Mercury. Jupiter represents the cosmic or higher > intelligence. His is the intelligence that is not formed from a > theoretical knowledge, it just knows. Mercury on the other hand is > more wordly in its working and as such represents how we interact > with society (speech, writing, commerce). Thus a person may be very > intelligent (strong Jupiter), but still not appear as such due to a > weak Mercury (inability to express oneself).> > Thanks for pointing out the many strengths of Einstein's chart. He > was no doubt one of the greatest - a scientist par excellence.> > Vishal> > sjvc, lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote:> > > > > > Om Gurave Namah> > > > > > > > Namaste Vishal,> > > > > > > > Regarding Mercury, he's a karaka for intellect, but then one> can't > be wise without being intelligent, while one can be intelligent > without being wise. There's enough proof in the world for this. I > always felt that Jupiter presupposes & includes Mercury, and the > reverse is not true.> > > > > > > > Mercury as pure intellect is like a precocious & impressionable > child who needs a firm hand to guide him and settle all that > undulating energy into lasting tasks. He needs the stern, > disapproving but concerned fathers/gurus like Sun, Jupiter & Saturn > around for that. I do concur with you that intelligence ( effect of > Nipuna yoga ) may not be impaired because Mercury is combust. Only > the original flamboyance might be somewhat tempered into a more > conservative format. > > > > > > > > For example, in Einstein's chart, his 10th house has a> formidable > line-up of planets, with so many rajayogas. Nipuna yoga takes place > in Jupiter's house (pisces), Who's stationed in 9th house.> Saturn > (9th lord) is in 10th house, in powerful parivartana with Jupiter > (7th & 10th Lord). Also, you can't disregard the fact that the> 5th & > 12th lord Venus is exalted and Sun (3rd lord) in 10th house has > digbala. So, Mercury was literally in the company of giants! With > them in control, Einstein's visionary intellect was yoked to > passionate wisdom & it made him what he was and what he continues to > mean to generations of us. > > > > > > > > Great writing is enabled by exalted Jupiter, moon & venus combo. > Mercury does give ability to communicate well, but in a frothy, light-> hearted way, unless otherwise influenced. > > > > > > > > By the way, thanx for making me look at Einstein's chart.> He's one > of my all time fav guys! > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > Lakshmi> > > > > > > > > > > > > > vbamba <vbamba@m...> wrote: > > Hare Rama Krishna,> > > > dear lakshmi & partha,> > > > Interesting discussion. I disagree on some points which I thought I > > would bring up.> > > > - Lakshmi, you imply that your writing ability may be impaired by > Me > > being combust. I do not think this is totally accurate. Sun + > Mercury > > endows the native with Budhaditya yoga which may make him/her > > intellectually brilliant. Albert Einstein had this combination with > > Sun & Me in the 10th house. These results no doubt will depend on > > various other influences, however many grahas do quite well even > > though they may be technically combust. From what I remember, you > > have Mercury combust in Leo, which would probably produce good > > results as Sun is in his own house + in a kona.> > > > - I concur with Partha that a strong Mercury is quite essential for > > good writing & communication. Mercury provides this expressive > > ability. Jupiter grants wisdom & intelligence, but without a strong > > Mercury one will not be able to articulate oneself with clarity.> > > > Vishal> > > > sjvc, "partvinu5" <partvinu5> wrote:> > > dear lakshmi> > > > > > you made me smile. Now you are a philospher too(laughs).> > > > > > I have read few years in which classic(well i dont remember), but > > the > > > statements were something like this for writing , i will give you > a > > > gist> > > > > > a)jupiter and moon in konas produce good writers> > > b) the same combination should be seen from lagna, karakamsa > lagna > > > and navamsa lagna.> > > > > > > > > the statement made me think a lot. because i always thought > > mercury > > > was the guy who gives writing ability. When i searched deeper, i > > came > > > to understand(that was 4 years ago), that moon because of his > > > creative ability and jupiter due to his innate ability to > visualise > > > and understand the higher planes are deemed to be good writers.> > > > > > ok that was good. But on further investigation i found in many > > > classics that mercury is the information collecter, the person > > > responsible for printing, publications and writing.> > > > > > SO here i go. i integrate the two things as i am working NOW FULL > > > TIME AS A WRITER.> > > > > > mercury give journalism, writing careers, but to be a great > author > > > one needs support of jupiter and moon. So for me mercury is in > > lagna, > > > jupiter in 5th in aries, and moon in 10th in virgo, confirming > that > > i > > > can write for a living(laughs). But surely i can never write as > > > beautifully as you do (laughs), because for you moon and jupiter > > are > > > strong but not mercury!!!!.> > > BTW sun is for management kind of stuff, saturn is for hard > > writing, > > > religious, melancholic etc> > > regards> > > partha> > > > > > > > > sjvc, lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Partha,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your suggestion. Though I work in a Bank, I do have > a > > > legitimate platform to er.. wax eloquent, because I am the > editor > > of > > > an in house IT magazine. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Partha, I have really been thinking hard about Mercury being > > karaka > > > for writing, but some how I am not convinced. Mercury symbolizes > > > great information gathering & intelligent processing capacity. He > > > also gives eloquence that can effectively package the output. But > > is > > > this enough? For any writing to be relevant, shouldn't there be > > > something deep & universally valid within all that eloquence? > And, > > if > > > those qualities are there, is the eloquence really necessary? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For example, in "Gajendra Moksham" do you think that Gajendra > > could > > > have possibly made his appeal for help with great rhetoric and > > > faultless syntax? His cry for help was hardly c> > erebral…"kaavave > > > (traahimaam) Varadaa"..is that of a child in trouble and the Lord > > > rushed to him like a mother. Take Thyagaraaja's or Annamayya's > > > keertanas…they portray great philosophical dilemmas and man's > > > ceaseless search for Truth in such simple effortless language. > The > > > content is never dwarfed by the wordplay. And they are timeless > in > > > their appeal, because they touch the heart and celebrate the > Truth > > > within. Jupiter & Sun and Saturn, Partha, but I don't think > > > Mercury….he's too light & effervescent.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > Lakshmi> > > > > > > > > > > > partvinu5 <partvinu5> wrote: > > > > dear lakshmi> > > > > > > > d1 shows the overall aspects of life. d9 show the dharma of a > > > person. > > > > karakamsa analysis shows what the soul desires. but what is > > > desirable > > > > may not always fructify. thus if you have combust mercury, then > > > > working as a writer might be difficult. But at the same time u > > can > > > > write for hooby or write as a part time.> > > > > > > > Look at dasamsa or d10 for career in writing. There might be > many > > > > fools like partha who are not really that eloquent but do > become > > > > authors due their karma(laughs).> > > > > > > > regards> > > > partha> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sjvc, "Shailesh" <scchadha@h...> wrote:> > > > > Namaste Lakshmi,> > > > > > > > > > First & foremost - I am not too confident about my > > > interpretations, > > > > SO USE WITH CARE.> > > > > > > > > > As I believe it:> > > > > 1. Sanjay ji teachs that VE & ME do not get combust unless > > > > retrograde.> > > > > 2. What is true for D-9, also holds good for D-1.> > > > > > > > > > Based on the above, you need not worry reg. the combustion of > > Me.> > > > > > > > > > Your D1 lagna has JU, MO & SA. Applying the rules for swamsa,> > > > (1.2.103), an excellent author is indicated. (1.2.106) re-> > confirms > > > > it. > > > > > > > > > > But as per 1.2.107, you may not be very eloquent. 1.2.109 re-> > > > confirms it, since SA in lagna give you stage-fright (I remeber > > you > > > > mentioned it in one of the recent mails).> > > > > > > > > > I request respected Gurus to confirm, or correct, my > > > interpretation.> > > > > > > > > > Best wishes,> > > > > > > > > > Shailesh > > > > > scchadha@h...> > > > > - > > > > > lakshmi ramesh > > > > > sjvc > > > > > Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2002 6:47 AM> > > > > Re: [sjvc] Re: Appearances-dear Lakshmi> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Sailesh, > > > > > > > > > > I read the relevant chapters yesterday again. I do have > > Jupiter > > > > in trines to karakamsa, but in the 9th house, with Ketu. But he > > > does > > > > rule the 5th & 8th houses from karakamsa. > > > > > > > > > > I have exalted Mercury(Partha's right in a way) in the 2nd > > from > > > > karakamsa, with Saturn. But He's got the lowest shadbala > strength > > > and > > > > is thoroughly combust in Rasi chart. How to interpret that? > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Lakshmi > > > > > > > > > > Shailesh <scchadha@h...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Partha & Laksmi,> > > > > > > > > > The following Jaimini Sutras, from Ch. 1, Qtr 2, are very > > > > relevant to the subject.> > > > > > > > > > Best wishes,> > > > > > > > > > Shailesh Chandra Chadha> > > > > scchadha@h...> > > > > > > > > > SU. 102. If Chandra and Guru are in the Karakamsa or in > the > > > 5th > > > > from it, the person will become an author and will live by > > writing > > > > books.> > > > > > > > > > SU. 103. If Chandra and Sukra join Karakamsa or the 5th > > house > > > > from it, the person becomes an ordinary author.> > > > > > > > > > SU. I 04.-The person becomes still less famous than in > the > > > > above Sutra if Budha joins Chandra instead of Sukra in > Karakamsa > > or > > > > the 5th from it.> > > > > > > > > > SU. 105.-If Sukra joins Karakamsa, or the 5th from it, > the > > > > person becomes a great poet; an eloquent speaker and well > versed > > in > > > > poetry and literature.> > > > > > > > > > SU. I06.If Guru joins the Karakamsa or the 5th from it, > he > > > will > > > > be an all-round man and will know many branches of knowledge, > > well > > > > read in sciences and author of various works. He becomes a > > > versatile > > > > genius.> > > > > > > > > > SU. 107.-In the above combination of Guru, though a > person > > > > becomes learned he will not become a good speaker nor possess > > > powers > > > > of eloquence.> > > > > > > > > > SU. 108.-If Guru joins Karakamsa or the 5th from it, the > > > person > > > > becomes learned in Vyakarana or Grammar, Vedic literature and > > > > Vedangas.> > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > lakshmi ramesh > > > > > sjvc > > > > > Friday, February 01, 2002 1:07 PM> > > > > Re: [sjvc] Re: Appearances-dear Lakshmi> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Partha, > > > > > > > > > > I agree that Mercury must be strong for communication, > > but > > > > for creating immortal "master pieces" in writing, perhaps > strong > > > > Jupiter is necessary. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Lakshmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Terms > of > > > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----------------------------> --> > --> > > --> > > > ----------> > > > > > > > > > Auctions Great stuff seeking new owners! 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