Saturn is the karaka for real beauty- swee chan

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dear swee chan

 

As i told earlier, i am not a mettalurgist(laughs), a very normal

person.

 

 

You have given a wonderful mettalurgy lesson in the form of planets

creating valuable resources.

 

My point was not to show saturns singular role in the development of

human psyche, it was to show saturns role in the spiritual

development.

 

I dont deny planets role other than saturn. But saturn is the master.

he is the guy who decides our fate based on our past actions and

karma.

 

if a person allows saturn in his or her life he becomes happy

ultimately. the suld will dance when it knows that after taking so

many lives in different forms it is finnally escaping the cycle of

births and reborths. those who see saturn as friend he shall

definetely have understood his life and god.

 

regards

partha

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

sjvc, "Swee Chan" <swee@c...> wrote:

> Om Gurave Namah

>

> Dear Partha,

>

> Just theorising:

> What becomes something of value if it is not created in the eyes of

man and

> mass advertising? Who but man alone puts a value to the over

produced and

> over priced Diamond :-( ?

> I couldn't help but notice the word "carbon" which caught my eye.

In it's

> simplified form, carbonised vegetable tops [carbo vegetalis in

hoemeopathy]

> becomes the elixir for a degenerating patient.

> The very yang and purifying energy of Sun has the ability to burn

every

> planet closing in on it [His light purifies everything it shines

on] and he

> becomes exalted in Mars. [The theory of Yang + Yang = Very Yang]

> Yet a Diamond is representative of the planet Venus AND Sun gets is

> debilitation in Libra/Thula. Interesting, isn't it?

>

> The extraction of a Diamond equates to Saturn [toil and hard work]

+ The

> very slow cooling effect [takes thousands of years; metamorphosis

of one's

> causal rebirth] before crystallization equates to the quality of

extract.

> The magma/liquid state before crystallisation equates to Moon

[clear movable

> liquid; (liquid) chemicals = Venus]

> The content of magma equates to Mars [metallic content and ore]

> The process of buting and lapidary is Mercury [the hands that

create, the

> discerning eye of Sun and Moon to grade].

>

> Sun's exalted Pure light [Aries] and the filtrating 7th aspect of

exalted

> Sun on Venus[Libra] creates the spectrum of the colours of the

rainbow. [The

> 7th is also the seat of the "Dan Tien", the chakra below the navel]

And who

> created the universe from his navel…….?

>

> Please convince me of Saturn's singular involvement in this process.

>

> Namaste, Swee

>

>

>

> partvinu5 [partvinu5]

> 02 February 2002 10:55

> sjvc

> [sjvc] Re: Saturn is the karaka for real beauty-dear

lakshmi

>

> dear lakshmi

>

> You must be having strong mercury(writing so beautifully).

>

> But if i see the theory of creativity in philosophical way, then i

> must say that it is pain and pain alone that can create the light.

>

> WHen we say light then we know that there must be shadow and

> darkness. when the universe is 80% dark matter then there must be

> some divine intervention that has made it possible.

>

> I will give you a simple example. being a fellow sagitariun dreamer

> idealist you could or would always see the jupiters light, nothing

> wrong with it. But the point is when diamond becomes the "DIAMOND"

> only after intense grinding, drilling and fireworks in

the "factory".

>

> Diamond and gold in the various forms are presented in the jewellery

> shops only after they have undergone tremendous amount of bruning,

> scratching and what not. i am not going into the details of

> mettalurgical process here.

>

> Thus True light always follows intense darkness. Tunnel comes before

> the light according to me.

>

> regards

> partha

>

sjvc, lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Om Gurave Namah

> >

> >

> >

> > Namaste Partha,

> >

> >

> >

> > Aaah…Saturn! I am a great admirer of Saturn myself, as must be

> evident from my past mails. And I don't have to think, I immediately

> agree with you when you say that Saturn gives true beauty or

> appreciation of true beauty or "aatma soundarya" which is beyond

> physical parameters. For, real Beauty & Truth are those that are

> simple yet glorious and need no further embellishments….like Nature

> itself. Perhaps that's why whenever I dream of Mother, she comes

> across as austere.

> >

> >

> >

> > But, Partha, in this Saturn is very much like Jupiter, only he's

> the other side of the coin. Now, you can't choose to consider only

> one side of the coin and reject the other, na? Saturn is like 0,

> while Jupiter's like 1. Both together make for great meaning and

> possibilities & give one the capacity to reach beyond the physical

> frontiers / comprehension. One can't opt only for darkness (Saturn)

> because it's familiar ground and feels comfortable. Though he

> inwardly longs for Light (Jupiter), outwardly he is defiant as he's

> scared of the hurt / rejection it might bring along…we are all like

> that Partha, no exceptions … vulnerable in our heart of hearts. But

> can a baby choose to stay in the womb forever because it's cocooned

> from the harsh world ? Pain, or "angst" is inevitable in any

> creative endeavour, but one need not be "depressed" or be "intense"

> all the time in order to be creative, though I dare say that the

> concept's quite romantic, thanks to our films!

> >

> >

> >

> > A person who knows real pain (Saturn) often has great compassion

> and empathy, which can be channeled to heal those similarly

> afflicted. That's where Jupiter comes in.

> >

> >

> >

> > Saturn and Jupiter (higher frequency of Sun as per Gurudeva)

> together represent equilibrium or Pisces, where two equal yet

> opposing forces are perfectly balanced and tranquil. At peace with

> himself and with the world. No wonder Sanjayji stressed this

> combination so much in Jesus's chart.

> >

> >

> >

> > Talking of Jesus reminds me..Partha, true courage is quiet, and

> true strength is gentleness … not aggression. And a smile is often a

> badge of stubborn struggle to stay afloat, despite strong currents

to

> the contrary. To be happy and alive needs courage. Not vice versa.

> >

> >

> >

> > Sorry for this unforeseen avalanche, but then bad luck, you caught

> me when I have both the time and inclination to wax eloquent! But

> relax, no encore!

> >

> >

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Lakshmi

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > partvinu5 <partvinu5> wrote:

> > dear lakshmi

> >

> > Dont you think sani is karaka for masterpieces. just think about

> it.

> > today i was reading in Gjlist a post on the same topic. Shri

> goravani

> > was saying that venus the real beauty is created by saturn. When

> coal

> > is put under tremendous pressure for thousands of years then

> diamond

> > is born. Real happiness and beauty is born out of presevareance

and

> > toil. this is sani. Sani and ketu are the lonely types , very

> austere

> > and deep. They are the ones who create the masterpieces.

> >

> > ANy beauty that is created out of saturn the austerity is never

> > destroyed. The great earth was born after millions of years of

lava

> > and turmoil.

> > Saturn creates beauty-real beauty.

> > regards

> > partha

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > sjvc, lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote:

> > >

> > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > Namaste Partha,

> > > I agree that Mercury must be strong for communication, but for

> > creating immortal "master pieces" in writing, perhaps strong

> Jupiter

> > is necessary.

> > > Regards,

> > > Lakshmi

> > >

> > > partvinu5 <partvinu5> wrote: dear Lakshmi

> > >

> > > The best of creative work are the products of the most depressed

> > > minds in the world. Beethoven, Van gogh were not leading the

most

> > > active of lives but they did create the "Master pieces".

> > >

> > > I remember that you are also sagitarius lagna. And you are a

good

> > > communicator.

> > >

> > > The natural communicator is mercury. For me he is 10th lord and

> he

> > is

> > > plaed in lagna and is strong in shadvargas too. That is the

> reason

> > > why i am in writing field. mercury is for written communication.

> > Ketu

> > > in 5th does produce good writers too.

> > >

> > > SO this shy bit is neither correct nor wrong. There might be

> > writers

> > > who are extroverts also. i for one believe that mercury is for

> > > writing and he must be strong and connected to 10th house or

lord

> > > some way to give a falir for writing. Jupiter is vaku karaka. so

> > > strong jupiter indicates good orators. See the subtle difference

> > > here. There might be people who are good writers but may not be

> > good

> > > orators.

> > > regards

> > > partha

> > >

> > > http://profiles./partvinu5

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > sjvc, lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > > Hello Partha,

> > > > I have a STRONG Jupiter, but I am also very shy(!), is it

> because

> > > Ju is in Ketu's nakshatra?

> > > > Are generally shy people good at writing, because it gives

them

> > an

> > > impersonal yet personal interface/interaction with society?

> > > > Partha, you are quite young, I guess, going by your naivety.

> > > Perhaps the worst is over and the best in life is just around

the

> > > corner :-) ?

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Lakshmi

> > > >

> > > > partvinu5 <partvinu5> wrote: dear nimmi

> > > >

> > > > how i wish jupiter would have been strong for me to make your

> > wish

> > > > come true. but the sad fct is i am indeed very quiet and shy.

i

> > > > rarely talk to ladies(unless it is emails). you must remember

> > that

> > > > environment and circumstances are so important to determine

the

> > > > nature of a person. Well i cant hide the fact that i have

faced

> > > > trememndous mishaps in my life. Burnt my body once(came out

> > > safely).

> > > > lost and eye. lost my mother when i was 9. You can also notice

> > that

> > > > my lagna lord is with ketu. ketu is shy and introverted. in

> > navamsa

> > > > chart also i have sani in 5th indicating a shy person again. i

> do

> > > not

> > > > percieve myself as shy and silent. i am actually very shy.

> > > > regards

> > > > partha

> > > >

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