RE: Saturn is the karaka for real beaty- Partha

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12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">Dear Partha,

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12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">Just theorising:

12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">What becomes

something of value if it is not created in the eyes of man and mass

advertising? Who but man alone puts a value to the over produced and over

priced Diamond

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12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">I couldn’t help but

notice the word “carbon” which caught my eye. In it’s simplified form, carbonised

vegetable tops [carbo vegetalis in hoemeopathy] becomes the elixir for a

degenerating patient.

12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">The very yang and

purifying energy of Sun has the ability to burn every planet closing in on it

[His light purifies everything it shines on] and he becomes exalted in Mars.

[The theory of Yang + Yang = Very Yang]

12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">Yet a Diamond is

representative of the planet Venus AND Sun gets is debilitation in Libra/Thula.

Interesting, isn’t it?

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12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">The extraction of a

Diamond equates to Saturn [toil and hard work] + The very slow cooling effect

[takes thousands of years; metamorphosis of one’s causal rebirth] before

crystallization equates to the quality of extract.

12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">The magma/liquid

state before crystallisation equates to Moon [clear movable liquid; (liquid) chemicals

= Venus]

12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">The content of

magma equates to Mars [metallic content and ore]

12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">The process of

buting and lapidary is Mercury [the hands that create, the discerning eye of

Sun and Moon to grade].

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12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">Sun’s exalted Pure

light [Aries] and the filtrating 7th aspect of exalted Sun on

Venus[Libra] creates the spectrum of the colours of the rainbow. [The 7th

is also the seat of the “Dan Tien”, the chakra below the navel] And who created

the universe from his navel…….?

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12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">Please convince me of

Saturn’s singular involvement in this process.

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12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">Namaste, Swee

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partvinu5

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02 February 2002 10:55

sjvc

[sjvc] Re: Saturn is the

karaka for real beauty-dear lakshmi

 

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mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">dear lakshmi

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You must be having strong mercury(writing so beautifully).

But if i see the theory of creativity in philosophical way, then i

must say that it is pain and pain alone that can create the light.

WHen we say light then we know that there must be shadow and

darkness. when the universe is 80% dark matter then there must be

some divine intervention that has made it possible.

I will give you a simple example. being a fellow sagitariun dreamer

idealist you could or would always see the jupiters light, nothing

wrong with it. But the point is when diamond becomes the

"DIAMOND"

only after intense grinding, drilling and fireworks in the

"factory".

Diamond and gold in the various forms are presented in the jewellery

shops only after they have undergone tremendous amount of bruning,

scratching and what not. i am not going into the details of

mettalurgical process here.

Thus True light always follows intense darkness. Tunnel comes before

the light according to me.

regards

partha

sjvc, lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote:

>

>

> Om Gurave Namah

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>

>

> Namaste Partha,

>

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>

> Aaah…Saturn! I am a great admirer of Saturn myself, as must be

evident from my past mails. And I don't have to think, I immediately

agree with you when you say that Saturn gives true beauty or

appreciation of true beauty or "aatma soundarya" which is beyond

physical parameters. For, real Beauty & Truth are those that are

simple yet glorious and need no further embellishments….like Nature

itself. Perhaps that's why whenever I dream of Mother, she comes

across as austere.

>

>

>

> But, Partha, in this Saturn is very much like Jupiter, only he's

the other side of the coin. Now, you can't choose to consider only

one side of the coin and reject the other, na? Saturn is like 0,

while Jupiter's like 1. Both together make for great meaning and

possibilities & give one the capacity to reach beyond the physical

frontiers / comprehension. One can't opt only for darkness (Saturn)

because it's familiar ground and feels comfortable. Though he

inwardly longs for Light (Jupiter), outwardly he is defiant as he's

scared of the hurt / rejection it might bring along…we are all like

that Partha, no exceptions … vulnerable in our heart of hearts. But

can a baby choose to stay in the womb forever because it's cocooned

from the harsh world ? Pain, or "angst" is inevitable in

any

creative endeavour, but one need not be "depressed" or be

"intense"

all the time in order to be creative, though I dare say that the

concept's quite romantic, thanks to our films!

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>

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> A person who knows real pain (Saturn) often has great compassion

and empathy, which can be channeled to heal those similarly

afflicted. That's where Jupiter comes in.

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>

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> Saturn and Jupiter (higher frequency of Sun as per Gurudeva)

together represent equilibrium or Pisces, where two equal yet

opposing forces are perfectly balanced and tranquil. At peace with

himself and with the world. No wonder Sanjayji stressed this

combination so much in Jesus's chart.

>

>

>

> Talking of Jesus reminds me..Partha, true courage is quiet, and

true strength is gentleness … not aggression. And a smile is often a

badge of stubborn struggle to stay afloat, despite strong currents to

the contrary. To be happy and alive needs courage. Not vice versa.

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> Sorry for this unforeseen avalanche, but then bad luck, you caught

me when I have both the time and inclination to wax eloquent! But

relax, no encore!

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> Regards,

>

> Lakshmi

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> partvinu5 <partvinu5> wrote:

> dear lakshmi

>

> Dont you think sani is karaka for masterpieces. just think about

it.

> today i was reading in Gjlist a post on the same topic. Shri

goravani

> was saying that venus the real beauty is created by saturn. When

coal

> is put under tremendous pressure for thousands of years then

diamond

> is born. Real happiness and beauty is born out of presevareance and

> toil. this is sani. Sani and ketu are the lonely types , very

austere

> and deep. They are the ones who create the masterpieces.

>

> ANy beauty that is created out of saturn the austerity is never

> destroyed. The great earth was born after millions of years of lava

> and turmoil.

> Saturn creates beauty-real beauty.

> regards

> partha

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> sjvc, lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote:

> >

> > Om Gurave Namah

> > Namaste Partha,

> > I agree that Mercury must be strong for communication, but for

> creating immortal "master pieces" in writing, perhaps strong

Jupiter

> is necessary.

> > Regards,

> > Lakshmi

> >

> > partvinu5 <partvinu5> wrote: dear Lakshmi

> >

> > The best of creative work are the products of the most depressed

> > minds in the world. Beethoven, Van gogh were not leading the most

> > active of lives but they did create the "Master

pieces".

> >

> > I remember that you are also sagitarius lagna. And you are a good

> > communicator.

> >

> > The natural communicator is mercury. For me he is 10th lord and

he

> is

> > plaed in lagna and is strong in shadvargas too. That is the

reason

> > why i am in writing field. mercury is for written communication.

> Ketu

> > in 5th does produce good writers too.

> >

> > SO this shy bit is neither correct nor wrong. There might be

> writers

> > who are extroverts also. i for one believe that mercury is for

> > writing and he must be strong and connected to 10th house or lord

> > some way to give a falir for writing. Jupiter is vaku karaka. so

> > strong jupiter indicates good orators. See the subtle difference

> > here. There might be people who are good writers but may not be

> good

> > orators.

> > regards

> > partha

> >

> > http://profiles./partvinu5

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > sjvc, lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > Hello Partha,

> > > I have a STRONG Jupiter, but I am also very shy(!), is it

because

> > Ju is in Ketu's nakshatra?

> > > Are generally shy people good at writing, because it gives

them

> an

> > impersonal yet personal interface/interaction with society?

> > > Partha, you are quite young, I guess, going by your naivety.

> > Perhaps the worst is over and the best in life is just around the

> > corner :-) ?

> > > Regards,

> > > Lakshmi

> > >

> > > partvinu5 <partvinu5> wrote: dear nimmi

> > >

> > > how i wish jupiter would have been strong for me to make

your

> wish

> > > come true. but the sad fct is i am indeed very quiet and

shy. i

> > > rarely talk to ladies(unless it is emails). you must

remember

> that

> > > environment and circumstances are so important to determine

the

> > > nature of a person. Well i cant hide the fact that i have

faced

> > > trememndous mishaps in my life. Burnt my body once(came out

> > safely).

> > > lost and eye. lost my mother when i was 9. You can also

notice

> that

> > > my lagna lord is with ketu. ketu is shy and introverted. in

> navamsa

> > > chart also i have sani in 5th indicating a shy person again.

i

do

> > not

> > > percieve myself as shy and silent. i am actually very shy.

> > > regards

> > > partha

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