Saturn is the karaka for real beauty-dear lakshmi

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Om Gurave Namah

 

Namaste Partha,

 

Aaah…Saturn! I am a great admirer of Saturn myself, as must be evident from my

past mails. And I don't have to think, I immediately agree with you when you

say that Saturn gives true beauty or appreciation of true beauty or “aatma

soundarya” which is beyond physical parameters. For, real Beauty & Truth are

those that are simple yet glorious and need no further embellishments….like

Nature itself. Perhaps that’s why whenever I dream of Mother, she comes across

as austere.

 

But, Partha, in this Saturn is very much like Jupiter, only he’s the other side

of the coin. Now, you can’t choose to consider only one side of the coin and

reject the other, na? Saturn is like 0, while Jupiter’s like 1. Both together

make for great meaning and possibilities & give one the capacity to reach

beyond the physical frontiers / comprehension. One can’t opt only for darkness

(Saturn) because it’s familiar ground and feels comfortable. Though he inwardly

longs for Light (Jupiter), outwardly he is defiant as he’s scared of the hurt /

rejection it might bring along…we are all like that Partha, no exceptions …

vulnerable in our heart of hearts. But can a baby choose to stay in the womb

forever because it’s cocooned from the harsh world ? Pain, or “angst” is

inevitable in any creative endeavour, but one need not be “depressed” or be

“intense” all the time in order to be creative, though I dare say that the

concept’s quite romantic, thanks to our films!

 

A person who knows real pain (Saturn) often has great compassion and empathy,

which can be channeled to heal those similarly afflicted. That’s where Jupiter

comes in.

 

Saturn and Jupiter (higher frequency of Sun as per Gurudeva) together represent

equilibrium or Pisces, where two equal yet opposing forces are perfectly

balanced and tranquil. At peace with himself and with the world. No wonder

Sanjayji stressed this combination so much in Jesus’s chart.

 

Talking of Jesus reminds me..Partha, true courage is quiet, and true strength

is gentleness … not aggression. And a smile is often a badge of stubborn

struggle to stay afloat, despite strong currents to the contrary. To be happy

and alive needs courage. Not vice versa.

 

Sorry for this unforeseen avalanche, but then bad luck, you caught me when I

have both the time and inclination to wax eloquent! But relax, no encore!

 

Regards,

Lakshmi

 

 

 

partvinu5 <partvinu5 > wrote:

dear lakshmiDont you think sani is karaka for masterpieces. just think about it.

today i was reading in Gjlist a post on the same topic. Shri goravani was saying

that venus the real beauty is created by saturn. When coal is put under

tremendous pressure for thousands of years then diamond is born. Real happiness

and beauty is born out of presevareance and toil. this is sani. Sani and ketu

are the lonely types , very austere and deep. They are the ones who create the

masterpieces. ANy beauty that is created out of saturn the austerity is never

destroyed. The great earth was born after millions of years of lava and

turmoil.Saturn creates beauty-real beauty.regardsparthasjvc,

lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote:> > Om Gurave Namah> Namaste

Partha,> I agree that Mercury must be strong for communication, but for

creating immortal "master pieces" in writing, perhaps strong Jupiter is

necessary. > Regards,> Lakshmi> > partvinu5 <partvinu5> wrote: dear

Lakshmi> > The best of creative work are the products of the most depressed >

minds in the world. Beethoven, Van gogh were not leading the most > active of

lives but they did create the "Master pieces".> > I remember that you are also

sagitarius lagna. And you are a good > communicator.> > The natural

communicator is mercury. For me he is 10th lord and he is > plaed in lagna and

is strong in shadvargas too. That is the reason > why i am in writing field.

mercury is for written communication. Ketu > in 5th does produce good writers

too.> > SO this shy bit is neither correct nor wrong. There might be writers >

who are extroverts also. i for one believe that mercury is for > writing and he

must be strong and connected to 10th house or lord > some way to give a falir

for writing. Jupiter is vaku karaka. so > strong jupiter indicates good

orators. See the subtle difference > here. There might be people who are good

writers but may not be good > orators.> regards> partha> >

http://profiles./partvinu5> > > > > sjvc, lakshmi ramesh

<b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote:> > > > Om Gurave Namah> > Hello Partha, > > I

have a STRONG Jupiter, but I am also very shy(!), is it because > Ju is in

Ketu's nakshatra? > > Are generally shy people good at writing, because it

gives them an > impersonal yet personal interface/interaction with society?> >

Partha, you are quite young, I guess, going by your naivety. > Perhaps the

worst is over and the best in life is just around the > corner :-) ?> >

Regards,> > Lakshmi > > > > partvinu5 <partvinu5> wrote: dear nimmi> > >

> how i wish jupiter would have been strong for me to make your wish > > come

true. but the sad fct is i am indeed very quiet and shy. i > > rarely talk to

ladies(unless it is emails). you must remember that > > environment and

circumstances are so important to determine the > > nature of a person. Well i

cant hide the fact that i have faced > > trememndous mishaps in my life. Burnt

my body once(came out > safely). > > lost and eye. lost my mother when i was 9.

You can also notice that > > my lagna lord is with ketu. ketu is shy and

introverted. in navamsa > > chart also i have sani in 5th indicating a shy

person again. i do > not > > percieve myself as shy and silent. i am actually

very shy.> > regards> > partha> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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respected parthaji,laxmiji and other members of the

list,

this is vyshakh. your discussions on saturn and guru

was very nice to read i should thank you both for that

i am a libra lagna native with sun,saturn,jupiter all

in 12th and their lord buddh in lagna i have

experienced precisely what you have discussed (intense

pain,soul searching-which brought me a trifle closer

to lord vishnu)with jupiter dasha starting in 2006

what are its likely effects dob-10 october 1981

tod-7-50 am pob-bangalore

thank you,waiting for the replies

vyshakh,

-- partvinu5 <partvinu5 wrote:

> dear lakshmi

>

> You must be having strong mercury(writing so

> beautifully).

>

> But if i see the theory of creativity in

> philosophical way, then i

> must say that it is pain and pain alone that can

> create the light.

>

> WHen we say light then we know that there must be

> shadow and

> darkness. when the universe is 80% dark matter then

> there must be

> some divine intervention that has made it possible.

>

> I will give you a simple example. being a fellow

> sagitariun dreamer

> idealist you could or would always see the jupiters

> light, nothing

> wrong with it. But the point is when diamond becomes

> the "DIAMOND"

> only after intense grinding, drilling and fireworks

> in the "factory".

>

> Diamond and gold in the various forms are presented

> in the jewellery

> shops only after they have undergone tremendous

> amount of bruning,

> scratching and what not. i am not going into the

> details of

> mettalurgical process here.

>

> Thus True light always follows intense darkness.

> Tunnel comes before

> the light according to me.

>

> regards

> partha

>

sjvc, lakshmi ramesh

> <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Om Gurave Namah

> >

> >

> >

> > Namaste Partha,

> >

> >

> >

> > Aaah…Saturn! I am a great admirer of Saturn

> myself, as must be

> evident from my past mails. And I don't have to

> think, I immediately

> agree with you when you say that Saturn gives true

> beauty or

> appreciation of true beauty or "aatma soundarya"

> which is beyond

> physical parameters. For, real Beauty & Truth are

> those that are

> simple yet glorious and need no further

> embellishments….like Nature

> itself. Perhaps that's why whenever I dream of

> Mother, she comes

> across as austere.

> >

> >

> >

> > But, Partha, in this Saturn is very much like

> Jupiter, only he's

> the other side of the coin. Now, you can't choose to

> consider only

> one side of the coin and reject the other, na?

> Saturn is like 0,

> while Jupiter's like 1. Both together make for great

> meaning and

> possibilities & give one the capacity to reach

> beyond the physical

> frontiers / comprehension. One can't opt only for

> darkness (Saturn)

> because it's familiar ground and feels comfortable.

> Though he

> inwardly longs for Light (Jupiter), outwardly he is

> defiant as he's

> scared of the hurt / rejection it might bring

> along…we are all like

> that Partha, no exceptions … vulnerable in our heart

> of hearts. But

> can a baby choose to stay in the womb forever

> because it's cocooned

> from the harsh world ? Pain, or "angst" is

> inevitable in any

> creative endeavour, but one need not be "depressed"

> or be "intense"

> all the time in order to be creative, though I dare

> say that the

> concept's quite romantic, thanks to our films!

> >

> >

> >

> > A person who knows real pain (Saturn) often has

> great compassion

> and empathy, which can be channeled to heal those

> similarly

> afflicted. That's where Jupiter comes in.

> >

> >

> >

> > Saturn and Jupiter (higher frequency of Sun as per

> Gurudeva)

> together represent equilibrium or Pisces, where two

> equal yet

> opposing forces are perfectly balanced and tranquil.

> At peace with

> himself and with the world. No wonder Sanjayji

> stressed this

> combination so much in Jesus's chart.

> >

> >

> >

> > Talking of Jesus reminds me..Partha, true courage

> is quiet, and

> true strength is gentleness … not aggression. And a

> smile is often a

> badge of stubborn struggle to stay afloat, despite

> strong currents to

> the contrary. To be happy and alive needs courage.

> Not vice versa.

> >

> >

> >

> > Sorry for this unforeseen avalanche, but then bad

> luck, you caught

> me when I have both the time and inclination to wax

> eloquent! But

> relax, no encore!

> >

> >

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Lakshmi

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > partvinu5 <partvinu5> wrote:

> > dear lakshmi

> >

> > Dont you think sani is karaka for masterpieces.

> just think about

> it.

> > today i was reading in Gjlist a post on the same

> topic. Shri

> goravani

> > was saying that venus the real beauty is created

> by saturn. When

> coal

> > is put under tremendous pressure for thousands of

> years then

> diamond

> > is born. Real happiness and beauty is born out of

> presevareance and

> > toil. this is sani. Sani and ketu are the lonely

> types , very

> austere

> > and deep. They are the ones who create the

> masterpieces.

> >

> > ANy beauty that is created out of saturn the

> austerity is never

> > destroyed. The great earth was born after millions

> of years of lava

> > and turmoil.

> > Saturn creates beauty-real beauty.

> > regards

> > partha

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > sjvc, lakshmi ramesh

> <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote:

> > >

> > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > Namaste Partha,

>

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