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OHM SHRI RAGAVENDRAYA NAMAH

JAYA JAGANNATHA

 

Namaste Jyotisha,

 

We want to take a slower pace for the benefit of the beginners. Now, it looks

like a too formal teaching, which is not good for Jyotish learning. I thought,

from the lesson and reading BPHS, many sisyas will ask questions and others

will answer or comment on those answers. In that method only, we can learn. You

have to attempt the questions asked in the lessons. But, we should not stop

there.

 

One important clue to the world from this lesson is. As Lord Maha Vishnu

represents all the 9 grahas, in any chart one of the Grahas rules the

native’s chart through lagna lordship or as Atmakaraka. Whatever may be

the graha, that graha represents the Vishnu Avatar. So, we are bound to respect

that native or all the living beings. So, the real bakthi starts from loving one

and all, who are represented by the Lord Maha Vishnu.

 

 

1.Shailesh:- Very good reply about the 1st question. Your diagram also fine.

But, the spokes in the circle should be 12 representing the signs.

 

2. Chandramukha das:- Brilliant sloka from Brimha Samhita. Good picture. But, if

you place the East Indian chart in the back ground instead of North Indian, it

will look better.

 

3. Ajit Krishnan:- Answer is correct. Though, you considered Moon and Sun, I

think you have given preference to Sun. But, needs more explanation for

choosing Sun. About, Sadripu, I will reply in a separate mail.

 

4. Abhilekh Bhardwaj:- Your 3 justifications for Sun is fine. When you look at

from earth, each planet rotates earth in an orbit which looks like an elongated

spring joined at the end, wherein the area between the inner and outer circle of

this spring orbit is called the dweepa, this is the area or continent of that

planet. Continent is not the correct translation, but, it is the closest one

 

5. Jennifer:- Fine. Simple and to the point.

 

6. Nandan Chakraborthi:- Nice explanations, especially the planetary family from Sun.

 

7. D.K.Vasudeva rao:- Your answers are fine and you are not wrong in quoting

quotations. But, please provide the meaning also, so that it will help the

non-Sanskrit, people. Your mails are valuable and are read by many and are

going to be read by many in future. All your mails will have influence on

others understanding. Regarding the diagram, it is OK. But, what Gurudeva

wanted is with some more imagination and broader outlook.

 

8. Majid:- Answer 1 needs to be supported by reasons.

 

9. Frank:- Needs more explanation for answer 1 and you have to think more on answer 2.

 

10. Arno Holzmann:- Very good answers. In answer 1. “apparent size”

based on eclipse is not correct, rest are OK. In answer 2:- South Indian and

North Indian charts are good at explaining Nara portion. But, with 12 spokes

and Narayana can be well explained with East Indian chart.

 

11. Jay Weiss: Needs more explanation for answer 1. The purpose of this question

is to kindle our thinking to understand more about the importance of Sun.

 

Thanks

Solai Kannan

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Hare Krishna, Solai.

 

You said:

 

"...in any chart one of the Grahas rules the native’s chart through

lagna lordship or as Atmakaraka..."

 

In BPHS, chapter about the Great incarnations of the Lord (G.C.Sharma

translation), i believe text 10 said:

 

"The jeevatma portions from the grahas take births as human beings etc,

and live their lives according to their karmas and again merge in the

grahas"

 

So, this means, that we are a jeevatma portion of a particular graha?

And this particular jeevatma portion is seen in the lagna lordship or

the atmakaraka? And if we merge again, this means that life after life

we will have allways the same plantes, or as an atmakaraka, or as the

lordship of the lagna?

 

Thanks for your time.

Your sisya:

Arjuna-vallabha das.

 

 

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Namaste Solai,

 

Thanks for the appreciation.

 

Reg second part - the 12 spokes are there - they are very thin though. And they

are not labelled with sign names.

 

Regards

 

Shailesh Chandra Chadhascchadha (AT) hotmail (DOT) com

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Solai Kannan

sjvc

Sunday, January 06, 2002 2:33 PM

[sjvc] Evaluation of Lesson -3, Part I

1.Shailesh:- Very good reply about the 1st question. Your diagram also fine.

But, the spokes in the circle should be 12 representing the signs.

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Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya

------------------------

Dear Arjuna Vallabha prabhu,

Hare Krishna

The Atmakaraka is the king of the horoscope and rules it like a king does.

If it is a bad king then there is Punishment and turbulations, if the king

is calm, then there is peace. the mood etc of the king is also important.

That translation of Girish Sarma is beyond me. Suffice is to say that it

needed a better explanation with reference to the Vishnu Puran which is

missing.

Brilliant question about rebirth. This will depend on where we die and if we

are coming back to Prithvi Loka or Bhu Loka then the planet in the seventh

will tell where we are to be born and the circumstances etc.

With best wishes

Sanjay Rath

http://sanjayrath.tripod.com

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<sjvc>

Monday, January 07, 2002 7:04 AM

Re: [sjvc] Evaluation of Lesson -3, Part I

 

 

Hare Krishna, Solai.

 

You said:

 

"...in any chart one of the Grahas rules the native's chart through

lagna lordship or as Atmakaraka..."

 

In BPHS, chapter about the Great incarnations of the Lord (G.C.Sharma

translation), i believe text 10 said:

 

"The jeevatma portions from the grahas take births as human beings etc,

and live their lives according to their karmas and again merge in the

grahas"

 

So, this means, that we are a jeevatma portion of a particular graha?

And this particular jeevatma portion is seen in the lagna lordship or

the atmakaraka? And if we merge again, this means that life after life

we will have allways the same plantes, or as an atmakaraka, or as the

lordship of the lagna?

 

Thanks for your time.

Your sisya:

Arjuna-vallabha das.

 

 

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Hare Krishna, Prabhu Sanjay Rath.

 

Please accept my humble obbeisances.

 

Thanks for your time. I really apreciate all your dedication to the

spreading of the vedic knowledge. I hope some day Krishna gives me the

mercy of compensate a little of your infinit kindness.

 

Your sisya:

Arjuna-vallabha das.

 

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Sanjay Rath wrote:

 

Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya

------------------------

Dear Arjuna Vallabha prabhu,

Hare Krishna

The Atmakaraka is the king of the horoscope and rules it like a king

does.

If it is a bad king then there is Punishment and turbulations, if the

king

is calm, then there is peace. the mood etc of the king is also

important.

That translation of Girish Sarma is beyond me. Suffice is to say that it

 

needed a better explanation with reference to the Vishnu Puran which is

missing.

Brilliant question about rebirth. This will depend on where we die and

if we

are coming back to Prithvi Loka or Bhu Loka then the planet in the

seventh

will tell where we are to be born and the circumstances etc.

With best wishes

Sanjay Rath

 

 

 

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Namaste Sanjay,

When considering the place of rebirth, shouldn't we look at 7th from AL

The question of taking birth is not Satya but Maya, or Am I wrong?

Best wishes,

Zoran

 

Sanjay Rath wrote:

 

> Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya

> ------------------------

> Dear Arjuna Vallabha prabhu,

> Hare Krishna

> The Atmakaraka is the king of the horoscope and rules it like a king does.

> If it is a bad king then there is Punishment and turbulations, if the king

> is calm, then there is peace. the mood etc of the king is also important.

> That translation of Girish Sarma is beyond me. Suffice is to say that it

> needed a better explanation with reference to the Vishnu Puran which is

> missing.

> Brilliant question about rebirth. This will depend on where we die and if we

> are coming back to Prithvi Loka or Bhu Loka then the planet in the seventh

> will tell where we are to be born and the circumstances etc.

> With best wishes

> Sanjay Rath

> http://sanjayrath.tripod.com

> -

> "Arjuna-vallabha das" <arjuna-vallabha

> <sjvc>

> Monday, January 07, 2002 7:04 AM

> Re: [sjvc] Evaluation of Lesson -3, Part I

>

> Hare Krishna, Solai.

>

> You said:

>

> "...in any chart one of the Grahas rules the native's chart through

> lagna lordship or as Atmakaraka..."

>

> In BPHS, chapter about the Great incarnations of the Lord (G.C.Sharma

> translation), i believe text 10 said:

>

> "The jeevatma portions from the grahas take births as human beings etc,

> and live their lives according to their karmas and again merge in the

> grahas"

>

> So, this means, that we are a jeevatma portion of a particular graha?

> And this particular jeevatma portion is seen in the lagna lordship or

> the atmakaraka? And if we merge again, this means that life after life

> we will have allways the same plantes, or as an atmakaraka, or as the

> lordship of the lagna?

>

> Thanks for your time.

> Your sisya:

> Arjuna-vallabha das.

>

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Dear Zoran,

What does it mean when AK is in 7th from AL which also contains A7? Its there

in my case.

nitish

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On Wed, 09 Jan 2002 05:08:04

ahimsa wrote:

>Namaste Sanjay,

>When considering the place of rebirth, shouldn't we look at 7th from AL

>The question of taking birth is not Satya but Maya, or Am I wrong?

>Best wishes,

>Zoran

>

>Sanjay Rath wrote:

>

>> Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya

>> ------------------------

>> Dear Arjuna Vallabha prabhu,

>> Hare Krishna

>> The Atmakaraka is the king of the horoscope and rules it like a king does.

>> If it is a bad king then there is Punishment and turbulations, if the king

>> is calm, then there is peace. the mood etc of the king is also important.

>> That translation of Girish Sarma is beyond me. Suffice is to say that it

>> needed a better explanation with reference to the Vishnu Puran which is

>> missing.

>> Brilliant question about rebirth. This will depend on where we die and if we

>> are coming back to Prithvi Loka or Bhu Loka then the planet in the seventh

>> will tell where we are to be born and the circumstances etc.

>> With best wishes

>> Sanjay Rath

>> http://sanjayrath.tripod.com

>> -

>> "Arjuna-vallabha das" <arjuna-vallabha

>> <sjvc>

>> Monday, January 07, 2002 7:04 AM

>> Re: [sjvc] Evaluation of Lesson -3, Part I

>>

>> Hare Krishna, Solai.

>>

>> You said:

>>

>> "...in any chart one of the Grahas rules the native's chart through

>> lagna lordship or as Atmakaraka..."

>>

>> In BPHS, chapter about the Great incarnations of the Lord (G.C.Sharma

>> translation), i believe text 10 said:

>>

>> "The jeevatma portions from the grahas take births as human beings etc,

>> and live their lives according to their karmas and again merge in the

>> grahas"

>>

>> So, this means, that we are a jeevatma portion of a particular graha?

>> And this particular jeevatma portion is seen in the lagna lordship or

>> the atmakaraka? And if we merge again, this means that life after life

>> we will have allways the same plantes, or as an atmakaraka, or as the

>> lordship of the lagna?

>>

>> Thanks for your time.

>> Your sisya:

>> Arjuna-vallabha das.

>>

>> __________________________

>> __

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>>

>>

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Dear Nitish,

It is important that Atmakarak is well placed from AL for good progress

in life. The king would enjoy being in kendra from AL. The Atma as

natural benefic in 3/6th houses fromAL

avoiding debilitation in rashi/navamsa guarantees spiritual/saintly

direction in life. When

Atma is at the same time in A7, spiritual associations should be looked

for, and utmost care

should be taken as far as sexual life and business/partnership is

concerned.

Best wishes,

Zoran

P.S. concentrate more on the beginners lectures given by Solai. All

other matters would come in

due time

 

Nitish Arya wrote:

 

> Dear Zoran,

> What does it mean when AK is in 7th from AL which also contains A7? Its

there in my case.

> nitish

> --

>

> On Wed, 09 Jan 2002 05:08:04

> ahimsa wrote:

> >Namaste Sanjay,

> >When considering the place of rebirth, shouldn't we look at 7th from AL

> >The question of taking birth is not Satya but Maya, or Am I wrong?

> >Best wishes,

> >Zoran

> >

> >Sanjay Rath wrote:

> >

> >> Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya

> >> ------------------------

> >> Dear Arjuna Vallabha prabhu,

> >> Hare Krishna

> >> The Atmakaraka is the king of the horoscope and rules it like a king does.

> >> If it is a bad king then there is Punishment and turbulations, if the king

> >> is calm, then there is peace. the mood etc of the king is also important.

> >> That translation of Girish Sarma is beyond me. Suffice is to say that it

> >> needed a better explanation with reference to the Vishnu Puran which is

> >> missing.

> >> Brilliant question about rebirth. This will depend on where we die and if

we

> >> are coming back to Prithvi Loka or Bhu Loka then the planet in the seventh

> >> will tell where we are to be born and the circumstances etc.

> >> With best wishes

> >> Sanjay Rath

> >> http://sanjayrath.tripod.com

> >> -

> >> "Arjuna-vallabha das" <arjuna-vallabha

> >> <sjvc>

> >> Monday, January 07, 2002 7:04 AM

> >> Re: [sjvc] Evaluation of Lesson -3, Part I

> >>

> >> Hare Krishna, Solai.

> >>

> >> You said:

> >>

> >> "...in any chart one of the Grahas rules the native's chart through

> >> lagna lordship or as Atmakaraka..."

> >>

> >> In BPHS, chapter about the Great incarnations of the Lord (G.C.Sharma

> >> translation), i believe text 10 said:

> >>

> >> "The jeevatma portions from the grahas take births as human beings etc,

> >> and live their lives according to their karmas and again merge in the

> >> grahas"

> >>

> >> So, this means, that we are a jeevatma portion of a particular graha?

> >> And this particular jeevatma portion is seen in the lagna lordship or

> >> the atmakaraka? And if we merge again, this means that life after life

> >> we will have allways the same plantes, or as an atmakaraka, or as the

> >> lordship of the lagna?

> >>

> >> Thanks for your time.

> >> Your sisya:

> >> Arjuna-vallabha das.

> >>

> >>

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