Guest guest Posted January 6, 2002 Report Share Posted January 6, 2002 OHM SHRI RAGAVENDRAYA NAMAH JAYA JAGANNATHA Namaste Jyotisha, We want to take a slower pace for the benefit of the beginners. Now, it looks like a too formal teaching, which is not good for Jyotish learning. I thought, from the lesson and reading BPHS, many sisyas will ask questions and others will answer or comment on those answers. In that method only, we can learn. You have to attempt the questions asked in the lessons. But, we should not stop there. One important clue to the world from this lesson is. As Lord Maha Vishnu represents all the 9 grahas, in any chart one of the Grahas rules the native’s chart through lagna lordship or as Atmakaraka. Whatever may be the graha, that graha represents the Vishnu Avatar. So, we are bound to respect that native or all the living beings. So, the real bakthi starts from loving one and all, who are represented by the Lord Maha Vishnu. 1.Shailesh:- Very good reply about the 1st question. Your diagram also fine. But, the spokes in the circle should be 12 representing the signs. 2. Chandramukha das:- Brilliant sloka from Brimha Samhita. Good picture. But, if you place the East Indian chart in the back ground instead of North Indian, it will look better. 3. Ajit Krishnan:- Answer is correct. Though, you considered Moon and Sun, I think you have given preference to Sun. But, needs more explanation for choosing Sun. About, Sadripu, I will reply in a separate mail. 4. Abhilekh Bhardwaj:- Your 3 justifications for Sun is fine. When you look at from earth, each planet rotates earth in an orbit which looks like an elongated spring joined at the end, wherein the area between the inner and outer circle of this spring orbit is called the dweepa, this is the area or continent of that planet. Continent is not the correct translation, but, it is the closest one 5. Jennifer:- Fine. Simple and to the point. 6. Nandan Chakraborthi:- Nice explanations, especially the planetary family from Sun. 7. D.K.Vasudeva rao:- Your answers are fine and you are not wrong in quoting quotations. But, please provide the meaning also, so that it will help the non-Sanskrit, people. Your mails are valuable and are read by many and are going to be read by many in future. All your mails will have influence on others understanding. Regarding the diagram, it is OK. But, what Gurudeva wanted is with some more imagination and broader outlook. 8. Majid:- Answer 1 needs to be supported by reasons. 9. Frank:- Needs more explanation for answer 1 and you have to think more on answer 2. 10. Arno Holzmann:- Very good answers. In answer 1. “apparent size” based on eclipse is not correct, rest are OK. In answer 2:- South Indian and North Indian charts are good at explaining Nara portion. But, with 12 spokes and Narayana can be well explained with East Indian chart. 11. Jay Weiss: Needs more explanation for answer 1. The purpose of this question is to kindle our thinking to understand more about the importance of Sun. Thanks Solai Kannan -------------------------------- Please note the new International Hospital of Bahrain email address. It is changed from username (AT) theihb (DOT) com to username (AT) ihb (DOT) net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2002 Report Share Posted January 6, 2002 Hare Krishna, Solai. You said: "...in any chart one of the Grahas rules the native’s chart through lagna lordship or as Atmakaraka..." In BPHS, chapter about the Great incarnations of the Lord (G.C.Sharma translation), i believe text 10 said: "The jeevatma portions from the grahas take births as human beings etc, and live their lives according to their karmas and again merge in the grahas" So, this means, that we are a jeevatma portion of a particular graha? And this particular jeevatma portion is seen in the lagna lordship or the atmakaraka? And if we merge again, this means that life after life we will have allways the same plantes, or as an atmakaraka, or as the lordship of the lagna? Thanks for your time. Your sisya: Arjuna-vallabha das. ____________________________ mensaje enviado desde http://www.iespana.es emails (pop)-paginas web (espacio ilimitado)-agenda-favoritos (bookmarks)-foros -Chat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2002 Report Share Posted January 6, 2002 Namaste Solai, Thanks for the appreciation. Reg second part - the 12 spokes are there - they are very thin though. And they are not labelled with sign names. Regards Shailesh Chandra Chadhascchadha (AT) hotmail (DOT) com - Solai Kannan sjvc Sunday, January 06, 2002 2:33 PM [sjvc] Evaluation of Lesson -3, Part I 1.Shailesh:- Very good reply about the 1st question. Your diagram also fine. But, the spokes in the circle should be 12 representing the signs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2002 Report Share Posted January 7, 2002 Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya ------------------------ Dear Arjuna Vallabha prabhu, Hare Krishna The Atmakaraka is the king of the horoscope and rules it like a king does. If it is a bad king then there is Punishment and turbulations, if the king is calm, then there is peace. the mood etc of the king is also important. That translation of Girish Sarma is beyond me. Suffice is to say that it needed a better explanation with reference to the Vishnu Puran which is missing. Brilliant question about rebirth. This will depend on where we die and if we are coming back to Prithvi Loka or Bhu Loka then the planet in the seventh will tell where we are to be born and the circumstances etc. With best wishes Sanjay Rath http://sanjayrath.tripod.com - "Arjuna-vallabha das" <arjuna-vallabha <sjvc> Monday, January 07, 2002 7:04 AM Re: [sjvc] Evaluation of Lesson -3, Part I Hare Krishna, Solai. You said: "...in any chart one of the Grahas rules the native's chart through lagna lordship or as Atmakaraka..." In BPHS, chapter about the Great incarnations of the Lord (G.C.Sharma translation), i believe text 10 said: "The jeevatma portions from the grahas take births as human beings etc, and live their lives according to their karmas and again merge in the grahas" So, this means, that we are a jeevatma portion of a particular graha? And this particular jeevatma portion is seen in the lagna lordship or the atmakaraka? And if we merge again, this means that life after life we will have allways the same plantes, or as an atmakaraka, or as the lordship of the lagna? Thanks for your time. Your sisya: Arjuna-vallabha das. __________________________ __ mensaje enviado desde http://www.iespana.es emails (pop)-paginas web (espacio ilimitado)-agenda-favoritos (bookmarks)-foros -Chat Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2002 Report Share Posted January 8, 2002 Hare Krishna, Prabhu Sanjay Rath. Please accept my humble obbeisances. Thanks for your time. I really apreciate all your dedication to the spreading of the vedic knowledge. I hope some day Krishna gives me the mercy of compensate a little of your infinit kindness. Your sisya: Arjuna-vallabha das. ----------------------------- Sanjay Rath wrote: Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya ------------------------ Dear Arjuna Vallabha prabhu, Hare Krishna The Atmakaraka is the king of the horoscope and rules it like a king does. If it is a bad king then there is Punishment and turbulations, if the king is calm, then there is peace. the mood etc of the king is also important. That translation of Girish Sarma is beyond me. Suffice is to say that it needed a better explanation with reference to the Vishnu Puran which is missing. Brilliant question about rebirth. This will depend on where we die and if we are coming back to Prithvi Loka or Bhu Loka then the planet in the seventh will tell where we are to be born and the circumstances etc. With best wishes Sanjay Rath ____________________________ mensaje enviado desde http://www.iespana.es emails (pop)-paginas web (espacio ilimitado)-agenda-favoritos (bookmarks)-foros -Chat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2002 Report Share Posted January 8, 2002 Namaste Sanjay, When considering the place of rebirth, shouldn't we look at 7th from AL The question of taking birth is not Satya but Maya, or Am I wrong? Best wishes, Zoran Sanjay Rath wrote: > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya > ------------------------ > Dear Arjuna Vallabha prabhu, > Hare Krishna > The Atmakaraka is the king of the horoscope and rules it like a king does. > If it is a bad king then there is Punishment and turbulations, if the king > is calm, then there is peace. the mood etc of the king is also important. > That translation of Girish Sarma is beyond me. Suffice is to say that it > needed a better explanation with reference to the Vishnu Puran which is > missing. > Brilliant question about rebirth. This will depend on where we die and if we > are coming back to Prithvi Loka or Bhu Loka then the planet in the seventh > will tell where we are to be born and the circumstances etc. > With best wishes > Sanjay Rath > http://sanjayrath.tripod.com > - > "Arjuna-vallabha das" <arjuna-vallabha > <sjvc> > Monday, January 07, 2002 7:04 AM > Re: [sjvc] Evaluation of Lesson -3, Part I > > Hare Krishna, Solai. > > You said: > > "...in any chart one of the Grahas rules the native's chart through > lagna lordship or as Atmakaraka..." > > In BPHS, chapter about the Great incarnations of the Lord (G.C.Sharma > translation), i believe text 10 said: > > "The jeevatma portions from the grahas take births as human beings etc, > and live their lives according to their karmas and again merge in the > grahas" > > So, this means, that we are a jeevatma portion of a particular graha? > And this particular jeevatma portion is seen in the lagna lordship or > the atmakaraka? And if we merge again, this means that life after life > we will have allways the same plantes, or as an atmakaraka, or as the > lordship of the lagna? > > Thanks for your time. > Your sisya: > Arjuna-vallabha das. > > __________________________ > __ > mensaje enviado desde http://www.iespana.es > emails (pop)-paginas web (espacio ilimitado)-agenda-favoritos > (bookmarks)-foros -Chat > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2002 Report Share Posted January 9, 2002 Dear Zoran, What does it mean when AK is in 7th from AL which also contains A7? Its there in my case. nitish -- On Wed, 09 Jan 2002 05:08:04 ahimsa wrote: >Namaste Sanjay, >When considering the place of rebirth, shouldn't we look at 7th from AL >The question of taking birth is not Satya but Maya, or Am I wrong? >Best wishes, >Zoran > >Sanjay Rath wrote: > >> Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya >> ------------------------ >> Dear Arjuna Vallabha prabhu, >> Hare Krishna >> The Atmakaraka is the king of the horoscope and rules it like a king does. >> If it is a bad king then there is Punishment and turbulations, if the king >> is calm, then there is peace. the mood etc of the king is also important. >> That translation of Girish Sarma is beyond me. Suffice is to say that it >> needed a better explanation with reference to the Vishnu Puran which is >> missing. >> Brilliant question about rebirth. This will depend on where we die and if we >> are coming back to Prithvi Loka or Bhu Loka then the planet in the seventh >> will tell where we are to be born and the circumstances etc. >> With best wishes >> Sanjay Rath >> http://sanjayrath.tripod.com >> - >> "Arjuna-vallabha das" <arjuna-vallabha >> <sjvc> >> Monday, January 07, 2002 7:04 AM >> Re: [sjvc] Evaluation of Lesson -3, Part I >> >> Hare Krishna, Solai. >> >> You said: >> >> "...in any chart one of the Grahas rules the native's chart through >> lagna lordship or as Atmakaraka..." >> >> In BPHS, chapter about the Great incarnations of the Lord (G.C.Sharma >> translation), i believe text 10 said: >> >> "The jeevatma portions from the grahas take births as human beings etc, >> and live their lives according to their karmas and again merge in the >> grahas" >> >> So, this means, that we are a jeevatma portion of a particular graha? >> And this particular jeevatma portion is seen in the lagna lordship or >> the atmakaraka? And if we merge again, this means that life after life >> we will have allways the same plantes, or as an atmakaraka, or as the >> lordship of the lagna? >> >> Thanks for your time. >> Your sisya: >> Arjuna-vallabha das. >> >> __________________________ >> __ >> mensaje enviado desde http://www.iespana.es >> emails (pop)-paginas web (espacio ilimitado)-agenda-favoritos >> (bookmarks)-foros -Chat >> >> Your use of is subject to >> >> >> >> >> Your use of is subject to > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2002 Report Share Posted January 9, 2002 Dear Nitish, It is important that Atmakarak is well placed from AL for good progress in life. The king would enjoy being in kendra from AL. The Atma as natural benefic in 3/6th houses fromAL avoiding debilitation in rashi/navamsa guarantees spiritual/saintly direction in life. When Atma is at the same time in A7, spiritual associations should be looked for, and utmost care should be taken as far as sexual life and business/partnership is concerned. Best wishes, Zoran P.S. concentrate more on the beginners lectures given by Solai. All other matters would come in due time Nitish Arya wrote: > Dear Zoran, > What does it mean when AK is in 7th from AL which also contains A7? Its there in my case. > nitish > -- > > On Wed, 09 Jan 2002 05:08:04 > ahimsa wrote: > >Namaste Sanjay, > >When considering the place of rebirth, shouldn't we look at 7th from AL > >The question of taking birth is not Satya but Maya, or Am I wrong? > >Best wishes, > >Zoran > > > >Sanjay Rath wrote: > > > >> Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya > >> ------------------------ > >> Dear Arjuna Vallabha prabhu, > >> Hare Krishna > >> The Atmakaraka is the king of the horoscope and rules it like a king does. > >> If it is a bad king then there is Punishment and turbulations, if the king > >> is calm, then there is peace. the mood etc of the king is also important. > >> That translation of Girish Sarma is beyond me. Suffice is to say that it > >> needed a better explanation with reference to the Vishnu Puran which is > >> missing. > >> Brilliant question about rebirth. This will depend on where we die and if we > >> are coming back to Prithvi Loka or Bhu Loka then the planet in the seventh > >> will tell where we are to be born and the circumstances etc. > >> With best wishes > >> Sanjay Rath > >> http://sanjayrath.tripod.com > >> - > >> "Arjuna-vallabha das" <arjuna-vallabha > >> <sjvc> > >> Monday, January 07, 2002 7:04 AM > >> Re: [sjvc] Evaluation of Lesson -3, Part I > >> > >> Hare Krishna, Solai. > >> > >> You said: > >> > >> "...in any chart one of the Grahas rules the native's chart through > >> lagna lordship or as Atmakaraka..." > >> > >> In BPHS, chapter about the Great incarnations of the Lord (G.C.Sharma > >> translation), i believe text 10 said: > >> > >> "The jeevatma portions from the grahas take births as human beings etc, > >> and live their lives according to their karmas and again merge in the > >> grahas" > >> > >> So, this means, that we are a jeevatma portion of a particular graha? > >> And this particular jeevatma portion is seen in the lagna lordship or > >> the atmakaraka? And if we merge again, this means that life after life > >> we will have allways the same plantes, or as an atmakaraka, or as the > >> lordship of the lagna? > >> > >> Thanks for your time. > >> Your sisya: > >> Arjuna-vallabha das. > >> > >> __________________________ > >> __ > >> mensaje enviado desde http://www.iespana.es > >> emails (pop)-paginas web (espacio ilimitado)-agenda-favoritos > >> (bookmarks)-foros -Chat > >> > >> Your use of is subject to > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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