Questions on Planetary Beneficence and Maleficence

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OHM SHRI RAGAVENDRAYA NAMAH

JAYA JAGANNATHA

 

Namaste Beau,

 

Mercury is special planet. It is naturally a benefic, so when it is alone, it is

benefic. When it conjoins malefics, it is malefic. If it is with benefics, it is

more benefic. When it conjoins equal number of malefic and benefic, it depends

on the strength of the conjoining planets. Depending on stronger of malefics

and benefics conjoined, Mercury's nature varies.

 

Then what is mean by Malefic and Benefic. Benefics are soft satwick teachers and

malefics are hard police. Both are for the benefit of the native. Both sets

rules and punish us and appreciates us. But their mode and method is different.

One punish us by reducing the marks in the class tests and other punish us by

beating.

 

Thanks

Solai Kannan

 

Beau Binder [bbinder (AT) clipper (DOT) net]23

December 2001 9:57 PMShri Jagannath Vedic Center class[sjvc] Re:

Questions on Planetary Beneficence and MaleficenceDear Guru Solaiji,Thank you

for shedding light on this; the illustration of the LadyPharmacist also made it

clearer w.r.t. the difference between natural vs.functional planetary state. I

still have a question about finding Mercury'snatural

beneficence/neutrality/maleficence: Is he naturally benefic,naturally neutral,

or naturally malefic when conjoined with an equivalentnumber of benefics and

malefics in the Rasi chart?Thank you for your time and help,Beau-----Original

Message----- "Solai Kannan" <solai@i...> Sat Dec 22, 2001 11:24

pm Questions on Planetary Beneficence and MaleficenceOHM SHRI

RAGAVENDRAYA NAMAHJAYA JAGANNATHANamaste Beau,1. Rasi is basic and it is the

key for determination. So, if moon or mercuryis malefic for Rasi chart, then he

is malefic for the native through out thelife and through out the divisional the

charts. But, the functionalityvaries depending on the placement in the

individual divisional chart. Ifmoon is malefic as per Rasi chart and if it is

functionally benefic indivisional chart, he will be naturally malefic, but,

functionally beneficw.r.t. that divisional chart.To understand better, we have

our Lady Pharmacist, she is a very hard andstrict person with all the staffs,

even very senior Directors are afraid totalk to her. But, she is very soft with

lower level staffs, withoutcompromising on the strictness. So, the strictness is

her basic or naturalmalefic nature. The softness with lower level staffs is

benefic quality forthat particular group or (divisional chart).Even this above

functionality is applicable in Rasi chart too.2. Moon:- There are many opinions

on its benefic or malefic determination.As per Gurudeva, Moon is stronger from

the 8 th day (Ashtami) of waxingperiod - Shukla Paksha - to the 8th day

(Ashtami) of waning period - KrishnaPaksha. It is understandable. During these

periods, moon is relativelystronger and brighter than the other half. Only when

it is brighter andstronger he can be benefic. But it is benefic only from Shukla

PakshaEkadasi to Krishna Paksha Panchami.3. Mercury:- Your understanding is

correct and your second part of thequestion is answered in 1st para. This is

applicable not only to Mercury andMoon, it is applicable for all

planets.ThanksSolai KannanBeau Binder

[bbinder (AT) clipper (DOT) net]22 December 2001 10:59 PMShri Jagannath

Vedic Center class[sjvc] Questions on Planetary Beneficence and

Maleficencenamo vaH, gurus and sisyas,I have some questions regarding the

determination of Moon's and Mercury'sbenefic or malefic nature in a varga.

Could some of you please give me someguidance?My current understanding, based

on Narasimhaji's book 'Vedic Astrology: AnIntegrated Approach', is that the

following rules apply:Jupiter and Venus are always naturally benefic.Sun, Mars,

Saturn, Rahu, and Ketu are always naturally malefic. (I didn'tsee Saturn listed

on page 24, but inferred it's status from other commentaryin the book.)Moon is

naturally benefic when waxing, and naturally benefic when waning.As this can

only be determined from the rAshi chart configuration, it seemsthat the Moon's

natural state for a particular native is either alwaysnaturally benefic or

naturally malefic in all vargas for that native. Isthis correct? Also, is it

benefic when it is at its fullest and maleficwhen newest, the points at which

it is not waxing or waning?Mercury is naturally benefic when alone, or

conjoined with more naturalbenefics.Mercury is naturally malefic when conjoined

with more natural malefics.Is Mercury's natural beneficence or natural

maleficence calculated from therAshi chart and then maintained throughout the

rest of the vargas, or is itrecalculated based the placement of the planets in

each varga? Also, isMercury benefic, neutral, or malefic when conjoined with

an equivalentnumber of benefics and malefics?Thank you for your help!Best

regards,Beau Terms of

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Pranam Guru Solai,

 

On the same thread ... could you clarify the impact of an association

with a natural malefic vs. a functional malefic in the Rasi chart.

For example Ve a natural benefic is a functional malefic for Dhanus

lagna. What results would association of Ve yield? The same could

also be applied to a natural malefic and a functional benefic (e.g.

Ma for Dhanus).

 

Thanks

Vishal

 

 

sjvc, "Solai Kannan" <solai@i...> wrote:

> OHM SHRI RAGAVENDRAYA NAMAH

> JAYA JAGANNATHA

>

> Namaste Beau,

>

> Mercury is special planet. It is naturally a benefic, so when it is

alone,

> it is benefic. When it conjoins malefics, it is malefic. If it is

with

> benefics, it is more benefic. When it conjoins equal number of

malefic and

> benefic, it depends on the strength of the conjoining planets.

Depending on

> stronger of malefics and benefics conjoined, Mercury's nature

varies.

>

> Then what is mean by Malefic and Benefic. Benefics are soft satwick

teachers

> and malefics are hard police. Both are for the benefit of the

native. Both

> sets rules and punish us and appreciates us. But their mode and

method is

> different. One punish us by reducing the marks in the class tests

and other

> punish us by beating.

>

> Thanks

> Solai Kannan

>

>

> Beau Binder [bbinder@c...]

> 23 December 2001 9:57 PM

> Shri Jagannath Vedic Center class

> [sjvc] Re: Questions on Planetary Beneficence and

Maleficence

>

>

> Dear Guru Solaiji,

>

> Thank you for shedding light on this; the illustration of the Lady

> Pharmacist also made it clearer w.r.t. the difference between

natural vs.

> functional planetary state. I still have a question about finding

> Mercury's

> natural beneficence/neutrality/maleficence: Is he naturally

benefic,

> naturally neutral, or naturally malefic when conjoined with an

equivalent

> number of benefics and malefics in the Rasi chart?

>

> Thank you for your time and help,

> Beau

>

>

> "Solai Kannan" <solai@i...>

> Sat Dec 22, 2001 11:24 pm

> Questions on Planetary Beneficence and Maleficence

>

> OHM SHRI RAGAVENDRAYA NAMAH

> JAYA JAGANNATHA

>

> Namaste Beau,

>

> 1. Rasi is basic and it is the key for determination. So, if moon

or

> mercury

> is malefic for Rasi chart, then he is malefic for the native

through out

> the

> life and through out the divisional the charts. But, the

functionality

> varies depending on the placement in the individual divisional

chart. If

> moon is malefic as per Rasi chart and if it is functionally

benefic in

> divisional chart, he will be naturally malefic, but, functionally

benefic

> w.r.t. that divisional chart.

>

> To understand better, we have our Lady Pharmacist, she is a very

hard and

> strict person with all the staffs, even very senior Directors are

afraid

> to

> talk to her. But, she is very soft with lower level staffs,

without

> compromising on the strictness. So, the strictness is her basic

or natural

> malefic nature. The softness with lower level staffs is benefic

quality

> for

> that particular group or (divisional chart).

>

> Even this above functionality is applicable in Rasi chart too.

>

> 2. Moon:- There are many opinions on its benefic or malefic

determination.

> As per Gurudeva, Moon is stronger from the 8 th day (Ashtami) of

waxing

> period - Shukla Paksha - to the 8th day (Ashtami) of waning

period -

> Krishna

> Paksha. It is understandable. During these periods, moon is

relatively

> stronger and brighter than the other half. Only when it is

brighter and

> stronger he can be benefic. But it is benefic only from Shukla

Paksha

> Ekadasi to Krishna Paksha Panchami.

>

> 3. Mercury:- Your understanding is correct and your second part

of the

> question is answered in 1st para. This is applicable not only to

Mercury

> and

> Moon, it is applicable for all planets.

>

> Thanks

> Solai Kannan

>

>

> Beau Binder [bbinder@c...]

> 22 December 2001 10:59 PM

> Shri Jagannath Vedic Center class

> [sjvc] Questions on Planetary Beneficence and Maleficence

>

>

> namo vaH, gurus and sisyas,

>

> I have some questions regarding the determination of Moon's and

Mercury's

> benefic or malefic nature in a varga. Could some of you please

give me

> some

> guidance?

>

> My current understanding, based on Narasimhaji's book 'Vedic

Astrology: An

> Integrated Approach', is that the following rules apply:

>

> Jupiter and Venus are always naturally benefic.

> Sun, Mars, Saturn, Rahu, and Ketu are always naturally malefic.

(I didn't

> see Saturn listed on page 24, but inferred it's status from other

> commentary

> in the book.)

>

> Moon is naturally benefic when waxing, and naturally benefic when

waning.

> As this can only be determined from the rAshi chart

configuration, it

> seems

> that the Moon's natural state for a particular native is either

always

> naturally benefic or naturally malefic in all vargas for that

native. Is

> this correct? Also, is it benefic when it is at its fullest and

malefic

> when newest, the points at which it is not waxing or waning?

>

> Mercury is naturally benefic when alone, or conjoined with more

natural

> benefics.

> Mercury is naturally malefic when conjoined with more natural

malefics.

> Is Mercury's natural beneficence or natural maleficence

calculated from

> the

> rAshi chart and then maintained throughout the rest of the

vargas, or is

> it

> recalculated based the placement of the planets in each varga?

Also, is

> Mercury benefic, neutral, or malefic when conjoined with an

equivalent

> number of benefics and malefics?

>

> Thank you for your help!

>

> Best regards,

> Beau

>

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