Guest guest Posted November 26, 2001 Report Share Posted November 26, 2001 OHM SHRI RAGAVENDRAYA NAMAH JAYA JAGANNATHA Namaste Lakshmi, What I remember from Gurudeva's teaching is: The neechabanga giving planet represents the personalities, who come into rescue of the Neecha planet. Say in your case, Jupiter being the neechabanga giving planet, it can be your Husband or your Guru (Teacher) or your Senior in workplace, who come into rescue of Venus' neecha in Karmasthana. So, as you mentioned, the neechabanga is supported through various karakatwa of the Neechabanga giving planet. Naturally, the effect will be more pronounced during its period. Thanks Solai Kannan lakshmi ramesh [b_lakshmi_ramesh ]Tuesday, November 27, 2001 8:25 AMTo: sjvcSubject: [sjvc] Neechabhanga Om Gurave Namah----------------Shri Sanjay and Solai,Namaste. Regarding Neechabhanga, I read in Dr. Raman's"Catechism on Astrology" that the benefits ofNeechabhanga will accrue mostly during thedasa/antardasa of the planet(s) who'd caused theneechabhanga, since it is quite possible thatneechabhanga is caused in more than one way and bymore than one planet. It is also mentioned that where neechabhanga isstrong, it is almost equal to exaltation. Thesituation of the neecha planet, the strength of theplanet(s) causing neechabhanga etc. would determinethe extent of neechabhanga. Guruji, are the results of neechabhanga solely derivedfrom the naisargika / functional significations of the"neecha" planet ?ORvary/(get modified) according to the naisargika /functional significations of the planet that causedthe neechabhanga? Example:1) In my chart Venus is debilitated in the 10thhouse(virgo), but neechabhanga is caused byJupiter(7th lord from Venus), who's situated inlagna/chandra lagna, being the lagna lord. So, theresults, according to B.V. Raman would fructify morein Guru Mahadasa/Antardasa than in Sukra Mahadasa.Here, I also strongly feel that Venus'ssignifications would be heavily influenced by those ofGuru. 2) Now, suppose the Neechabhanga were to be caused byMercury (dispositor of Venus), I feel that the resultswould be more influenced by the significations ofMercury, and that there would be a marked differencebetween the results output in (1) and (2) cases. So, with all parameters of the "neecha" planetremaining constant, does the "hue" of neechabhangachange in consonance with different planets (variable)causing it? Shri Raman did not comment about this. Waiting for your guidance.Regards,LakshmiDo You ? GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month.http://geocities./ps/info1Your use of is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2001 Report Share Posted November 26, 2001 Om Gurave Namah --------------- Namaste Solai, Your reply was real quick and focussed. Thanx! Regards, Lakshmi --- Solai Kannan <solai wrote: > OHM SHRI RAGAVENDRAYA NAMAH > JAYA JAGANNATHA > > Namaste Lakshmi, > > What I remember from Gurudeva's teaching is: > > The neechabanga giving planet represents the > personalities, who come into > rescue of the Neecha planet. Say in your case, > Jupiter being the neechabanga > giving planet, it can be your Husband or your Guru > (Teacher) or your Senior > in workplace, who come into rescue of Venus' neecha > in Karmasthana. So, as > you mentioned, the neechabanga is supported through > various karakatwa of the > Neechabanga giving planet. Naturally, the effect > will be more pronounced > during its period. > > Thanks > Solai Kannan GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities./ps/info1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2001 Report Share Posted November 27, 2001 Respected Solaiji, This raises a basic doubt in my mind. In case of neechabhanga, what are the indications in a chart that, 1. Which planet will come to rescue of a neecha yogakaraka planet - is it the 7th lord from the neecha planet or the depositor of the neecha planet or a strong planet aspecting it? 2. Under what circumstances? Please guide me. Regards, Dasgupta - Solai Kannan sjvc Tuesday, November 27, 2001 11:30 AM [sjvc] Neechabhanga OHM SHRI RAGAVENDRAYA NAMAH JAYA JAGANNATHA Namaste Lakshmi, What I remember from Gurudeva's teaching is: The neechabanga giving planet represents the personalities, who come into rescue of the Neecha planet. Say in your case, Jupiter being the neechabanga giving planet, it can be your Husband or your Guru (Teacher) or your Senior in workplace, who come into rescue of Venus' neecha in Karmasthana. So, as you mentioned, the neechabanga is supported through various karakatwa of the Neechabanga giving planet. Naturally, the effect will be more pronounced during its period. Thanks Solai Kannan lakshmi ramesh [b_lakshmi_ramesh ]Tuesday, November 27, 2001 8:25 AMTo: sjvcSubject: [sjvc] Neechabhanga Om Gurave Namah----------------Shri Sanjay and Solai,Namaste. Regarding Neechabhanga, I read in Dr. Raman's"Catechism on Astrology" that the benefits ofNeechabhanga will accrue mostly during thedasa/antardasa of the planet(s) who'd caused theneechabhanga, since it is quite possible thatneechabhanga is caused in more than one way and bymore than one planet. It is also mentioned that where neechabhanga isstrong, it is almost equal to exaltation. Thesituation of the neecha planet, the strength of theplanet(s) causing neechabhanga etc. would determinethe extent of neechabhanga. Guruji, are the results of neechabhanga solely derivedfrom the naisargika / functional significations of the"neecha" planet ?ORvary/(get modified) according to the naisargika /functional significations of the planet that causedthe neechabhanga? Example:1) In my chart Venus is debilitated in the 10thhouse(virgo), but neechabhanga is caused byJupiter(7th lord from Venus), who's situated inlagna/chandra lagna, being the lagna lord. So, theresults, according to B.V. Raman would fructify morein Guru Mahadasa/Antardasa than in Sukra Mahadasa.Here, I also strongly feel that Venus'ssignifications would be heavily influenced by those ofGuru. 2) Now, suppose the Neechabhanga were to be caused byMercury (dispositor of Venus), I feel that the resultswould be more influenced by the significations ofMercury, and that there would be a marked differencebetween the results output in (1) and (2) cases. So, with all parameters of the "neecha" planetremaining constant, does the "hue" of neechabhangachange in consonance with different planets (variable)causing it? Shri Raman did not comment about this. Waiting for your guidance.Regards,Lakshmi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2001 Report Share Posted November 27, 2001 OHM SHRI RAGAVENDRAYA NAMAH JAYA JAGANNATHA Namaste Dasgupta, Have you seen the reply sent by Mrs.Lakshmi Ramesh in reply to Mr.Jay Weiss? The second mail in this thread. Wherein, she has copied Gurudeva's earlier mail regarding Neechabanga. Please check it. So, the planet which gives neechabanga will come into rescue or strengthens the Neecha planet. Thanks Solai Kannan J.K.Dasgupta [dga (AT) bom5 (DOT) vsnl.net.in]Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 6:49 AMsjvcSubject: Re: [sjvc] Neechabhanga Respected Solaiji, This raises a basic doubt in my mind. In case of neechabhanga, what are the indications in a chart that, 1. Which planet will come to rescue of a neecha yogakaraka planet - is it the 7th lord from the neecha planet or the depositor of the neecha planet or a strong planet aspecting it? 2. Under what circumstances? Please guide me. Regards, Dasgupta - Solai Kannan sjvc Tuesday, November 27, 2001 11:30 AM [sjvc] Neechabhanga OHM SHRI RAGAVENDRAYA NAMAH JAYA JAGANNATHA Namaste Lakshmi, What I remember from Gurudeva's teaching is: The neechabanga giving planet represents the personalities, who come into rescue of the Neecha planet. Say in your case, Jupiter being the neechabanga giving planet, it can be your Husband or your Guru (Teacher) or your Senior in workplace, who come into rescue of Venus' neecha in Karmasthana. So, as you mentioned, the neechabanga is supported through various karakatwa of the Neechabanga giving planet. Naturally, the effect will be more pronounced during its period. Thanks Solai Kannan lakshmi ramesh [b_lakshmi_ramesh ]Tuesday, November 27, 2001 8:25 AMTo: sjvcSubject: [sjvc] Neechabhanga Om Gurave Namah----------------Shri Sanjay and Solai,Namaste. Regarding Neechabhanga, I read in Dr. Raman's"Catechism on Astrology" that the benefits ofNeechabhanga will accrue mostly during thedasa/antardasa of the planet(s) who'd caused theneechabhanga, since it is quite possible thatneechabhanga is caused in more than one way and bymore than one planet. It is also mentioned that where neechabhanga isstrong, it is almost equal to exaltation. Thesituation of the neecha planet, the strength of theplanet(s) causing neechabhanga etc. would determinethe extent of neechabhanga. Guruji, are the results of neechabhanga solely derivedfrom the naisargika / functional significations of the"neecha" planet ?ORvary/(get modified) according to the naisargika /functional significations of the planet that causedthe neechabhanga? Example:1) In my chart Venus is debilitated in the 10thhouse(virgo), but neechabhanga is caused byJupiter(7th lord from Venus), who's situated inlagna/chandra lagna, being the lagna lord. So, theresults, according to B.V. Raman would fructify morein Guru Mahadasa/Antardasa than in Sukra Mahadasa.Here, I also strongly feel that Venus'ssignifications would be heavily influenced by those ofGuru. 2) Now, suppose the Neechabhanga were to be caused byMercury (dispositor of Venus), I feel that the resultswould be more influenced by the significations ofMercury, and that there would be a marked differencebetween the results output in (1) and (2) cases. So, with all parameters of the "neecha" planetremaining constant, does the "hue" of neechabhangachange in consonance with different planets (variable)causing it? Shri Raman did not comment about this. Waiting for your guidance.Regards,Lakshmi Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2001 Report Share Posted November 27, 2001 Respected Solaiji, Yes, I have seen the mail. The reply states the rules under which a neecha planet is under neechabhanga as given by Guruji Pt. Rath. But my doubt is which planet will come to the rescue of the neecha planet and cause neechabhanga? Is it the depositor or the 7th lord or the lord of the exault sign of the neecha planet or anybody else. And under which circustances? I am not clear and may be I have some basic misconception about neechabhanga. For example, in the case of Lakhsmiji 7th lord from neecha Ve is carrying out the rescue operation. Regards, Dasgupta - Solai Kannan sjvc Wednesday, November 28, 2001 10:45 AM RE: [sjvc] Neechabhanga OHM SHRI RAGAVENDRAYA NAMAH JAYA JAGANNATHA Namaste Dasgupta, Have you seen the reply sent by Mrs.Lakshmi Ramesh in reply to Mr.Jay Weiss? The second mail in this thread. Wherein, she has copied Gurudeva's earlier mail regarding Neechabanga. Please check it. So, the planet which gives neechabanga will come into rescue or strengthens the Neecha planet. Thanks Solai Kannan J.K.Dasgupta [dga (AT) bom5 (DOT) vsnl.net.in]Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 6:49 AMsjvcSubject: Re: [sjvc] Neechabhanga Respected Solaiji, This raises a basic doubt in my mind. In case of neechabhanga, what are the indications in a chart that, 1. Which planet will come to rescue of a neecha yogakaraka planet - is it the 7th lord from the neecha planet or the depositor of the neecha planet or a strong planet aspecting it? 2. Under what circumstances? Please guide me. Regards, Dasgupta - Solai Kannan sjvc Tuesday, November 27, 2001 11:30 AM [sjvc] Neechabhanga OHM SHRI RAGAVENDRAYA NAMAH JAYA JAGANNATHA Namaste Lakshmi, What I remember from Gurudeva's teaching is: The neechabanga giving planet represents the personalities, who come into rescue of the Neecha planet. Say in your case, Jupiter being the neechabanga giving planet, it can be your Husband or your Guru (Teacher) or your Senior in workplace, who come into rescue of Venus' neecha in Karmasthana. So, as you mentioned, the neechabanga is supported through various karakatwa of the Neechabanga giving planet. Naturally, the effect will be more pronounced during its period. Thanks Solai Kannan lakshmi ramesh [b_lakshmi_ramesh ]Tuesday, November 27, 2001 8:25 AMTo: sjvcSubject: [sjvc] Neechabhanga Om Gurave Namah----------------Shri Sanjay and Solai,Namaste. Regarding Neechabhanga, I read in Dr. Raman's"Catechism on Astrology" that the benefits ofNeechabhanga will accrue mostly during thedasa/antardasa of the planet(s) who'd caused theneechabhanga, since it is quite possible thatneechabhanga is caused in more than one way and bymore than one planet. It is also mentioned that where neechabhanga isstrong, it is almost equal to exaltation. Thesituation of the neecha planet, the strength of theplanet(s) causing neechabhanga etc. would determinethe extent of neechabhanga. Guruji, are the results of neechabhanga solely derivedfrom the naisargika / functional significations of the"neecha" planet ?ORvary/(get modified) according to the naisargika /functional significations of the planet that causedthe neechabhanga? Example:1) In my chart Venus is debilitated in the 10thhouse(virgo), but neechabhanga is caused byJupiter(7th lord from Venus), who's situated inlagna/chandra lagna, being the lagna lord. So, theresults, according to B.V. Raman would fructify morein Guru Mahadasa/Antardasa than in Sukra Mahadasa.Here, I also strongly feel that Venus'ssignifications would be heavily influenced by those ofGuru. 2) Now, suppose the Neechabhanga were to be caused byMercury (dispositor of Venus), I feel that the resultswould be more influenced by the significations ofMercury, and that there would be a marked differencebetween the results output in (1) and (2) cases. So, with all parameters of the "neecha" planetremaining constant, does the "hue" of neechabhangachange in consonance with different planets (variable)causing it? Shri Raman did not comment about this. Waiting for your guidance.Regards,Lakshmi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2001 Report Share Posted November 28, 2001 Respected Solaiji, Thank you. Now it is much clear. Regards, Dasgupta - Solai Kannan sjvc Wednesday, November 28, 2001 6:38 PM [sjvc] Neechabhanga OHM SHRI RAGAVENDRAYA NAMAH JAYA JAGANNATHA Namaste Dasgupta, In that mail, one of the rules is: "1.2. The lord of the seventh from the debilitated planet in a Kendra from Lagna or Moon.." As per this, Venus get neecha in Virgo, 7th lord from Virgo is Pisces and its lord Jupiter must be in Kendra to Lagna or Moon. For her Jupiter and Moon are in lagna. Now because of this Jupiter's placement, Venus gets Neechabanga. Hence, Jupiter is the one who initiates this neechabanga and through its (Jupiter) Karakatwa and through the personalities represented by its Karkatwa, Venus gets strength. As we can understand from this the neecha canceling planet must also be strong to make canceling more effectively. Thanks Solai Kannan J.K.Dasgupta [dga (AT) bom5 (DOT) vsnl.net.in]Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 10:31 AMsjvcSubject: Re: [sjvc] Neechabhanga Respected Solaiji, Yes, I have seen the mail. The reply states the rules under which a neecha planet is under neechabhanga as given by Guruji Pt. Rath. But my doubt is which planet will come to the rescue of the neecha planet and cause neechabhanga? Is it the depositor or the 7th lord or the lord of the exault sign of the neecha planet or anybody else. And under which circustances? I am not clear and may be I have some basic misconception about neechabhanga. For example, in the case of Lakhsmiji 7th lord from neecha Ve is carrying out the rescue operation. Regards, Dasgupta - Solai Kannan sjvc Wednesday, November 28, 2001 10:45 AM RE: [sjvc] Neechabhanga OHM SHRI RAGAVENDRAYA NAMAH JAYA JAGANNATHA Namaste Dasgupta, Have you seen the reply sent by Mrs.Lakshmi Ramesh in reply to Mr.Jay Weiss? The second mail in this thread. Wherein, she has copied Gurudeva's earlier mail regarding Neechabanga. Please check it. So, the planet which gives neechabanga will come into rescue or strengthens the Neecha planet. Thanks Solai Kannan J.K.Dasgupta [dga (AT) bom5 (DOT) vsnl.net.in]Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 6:49 AMsjvcSubject: Re: [sjvc] Neechabhanga Respected Solaiji, This raises a basic doubt in my mind. In case of neechabhanga, what are the indications in a chart that, 1. Which planet will come to rescue of a neecha yogakaraka planet - is it the 7th lord from the neecha planet or the depositor of the neecha planet or a strong planet aspecting it? 2. Under what circumstances? Please guide me. Regards, Dasgupta - Solai Kannan sjvc Tuesday, November 27, 2001 11:30 AM [sjvc] Neechabhanga OHM SHRI RAGAVENDRAYA NAMAH JAYA JAGANNATHA Namaste Lakshmi, What I remember from Gurudeva's teaching is: The neechabanga giving planet represents the personalities, who come into rescue of the Neecha planet. Say in your case, Jupiter being the neechabanga giving planet, it can be your Husband or your Guru (Teacher) or your Senior in workplace, who come into rescue of Venus' neecha in Karmasthana. So, as you mentioned, the neechabanga is supported through various karakatwa of the Neechabanga giving planet. Naturally, the effect will be more pronounced during its period. Thanks Solai Kannan lakshmi ramesh [b_lakshmi_ramesh ]Tuesday, November 27, 2001 8:25 AMTo: sjvcSubject: [sjvc] Neechabhanga Om Gurave Namah----------------Shri Sanjay and Solai,Namaste. Regarding Neechabhanga, I read in Dr. Raman's"Catechism on Astrology" that the benefits ofNeechabhanga will accrue mostly during thedasa/antardasa of the planet(s) who'd caused theneechabhanga, since it is quite possible thatneechabhanga is caused in more than one way and bymore than one planet. It is also mentioned that where neechabhanga isstrong, it is almost equal to exaltation. Thesituation of the neecha planet, the strength of theplanet(s) causing neechabhanga etc. would determinethe extent of neechabhanga. Guruji, are the results of neechabhanga solely derivedfrom the naisargika / functional significations of the"neecha" planet ?ORvary/(get modified) according to the naisargika /functional significations of the planet that causedthe neechabhanga? Example:1) In my chart Venus is debilitated in the 10thhouse(virgo), but neechabhanga is caused byJupiter(7th lord from Venus), who's situated inlagna/chandra lagna, being the lagna lord. So, theresults, according to B.V. Raman would fructify morein Guru Mahadasa/Antardasa than in Sukra Mahadasa.Here, I also strongly feel that Venus'ssignifications would be heavily influenced by those ofGuru. 2) Now, suppose the Neechabhanga were to be caused byMercury (dispositor of Venus), I feel that the resultswould be more influenced by the significations ofMercury, and that there would be a marked differencebetween the results output in (1) and (2) cases. So, with all parameters of the "neecha" planetremaining constant, does the "hue" of neechabhangachange in consonance with different planets (variable)causing it? Shri Raman did not comment about this. Waiting for your guidance.Regards,Lakshmi Terms of Service. Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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