Lesson 1.: Astronomical Definitions

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Respected Gaurangaji,

 

Namaste. Here is my late and humble attempt for lesson 1. I am sorry for being late.

 

1. Explain the changing of the seasons and its connection with the above

mentioned astronomical factors.If we take earth as stationary, all planets

including sun seem moving around it along the celestial sphere. This axis of

sun's movement is at an angle to the earth's axis as well as eliptical. As a

result, at certain point of time sun is near to earth (summer) and at other

point of time is far (winter). The effect of sunrays will change depending on

the distance between the earth relative to the sun, and gives us the various

"seasons".2. There are some days of the year when the Sun either doesn't rise

or set above certain parts of the globe. Please explain this phenomenon.Sun's

yearly movement is devided in two parts namely uttarayana & dakshinayana. It

reaches southest point during winter around Dec'23 and northest point during

summer around 21st March. Now earth also moves around its own axis causing day

and night. So when sun is in its extreme point of trajectory in northern

hemesphere some portions at extreme north of globe (near north pole) always

gets sun light. At the same time, opposite thing happens at the extreme

southern portions of the globe where those places - due to spherical shape of

the globe do not get sun rays at all.

 

3. Parasara mentions two classes of heavenly bodies: the moeving and non-moving

ones. Please explain, what will be the difference between their roles in the

astrological interpretation.For predictive astrology,effects of the grahas have

been seen relative to the nakshatras. Nakshatras are considered not to move

while planets are considered to move along celestial sphere around globe. The

effects of the nakshatras will be fixed by birth (past karma phala) and the

effects of the grahas will depend on their relative natal positions in the

chart and their periodical transits (Bhabishya)

 

4. If you are able to construct your own chart, please do it and explain as many

astronomical principles from it as you can (terrestrial latitude/longitude,

season, Sun's cycle, Sunrise/Sunset etc.). Also try to determine which planets

are above and under the horizon in your chart. In which Ayana the Sun is?

Following is my rectified birth chirt. JHL4.1 has been used.

 

September 15, 1947Time: 16:30:00 (recfd time, original was

4.03pm)Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Longitude: 88 E 22' 00"

Latitude: 22 N 32' 00"

Tithi: Sukla Pratipat Weekday: MondayNakshatra: U.Pha.

(20.14% left)Season: Sarat (as per bengali calender, a season between monsoon

and winter)

 

Sunrise: 5:22:50 Sunset: 17:39:55

Sun was in dakshinayana motion.

 

+--------------+| | |Rah

AL |Mar || | | | ||

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|| | | |

||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||Asc |

|Sat || | | ||

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Rasi |-----------|| | |Sun HL ||

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||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||GL Mnd |Ket |Jup

|Moo Mer ||Glk | | |Ven ||

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|+--------------+ Planets above horizon:

Venus, Jup, Ket (upagraha)

This is drishya. This part will decide native's future

 

Planets below horizon: Rahu (upagraha), Mars, Sat, Sun, Moon

This is adrishya. This shows what has come from previous birth as krmaphala

 

Please correct me if I am wrong.

 

Regards,

 

J.K. Dasgupta

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Dear Ajit,

 

Namaste.

 

>

> It would be logical for planets in the Drusya and Adrusya half of the

> chart to be ruled by the Sun and Moon respectively. In this case,

> planets in the Drusya half would give their intellectual qualities,

> while planets in the Adrusya half would give their mental (emotional)

> qualities. Someone with a majority of planets in one half would

> represent the respective qualities.

>

> If this is true, then in order to use the vimsottari dasa variation

> starting from Lagna, the majority of planets should be in the Drusya

> half.

 

Well, your way of thought is also reasionable. I have trather referred to

the external/internal aspect of Sun/Moon. Naksatra-based dasas like

Vimsottari and Astottari are indeed based on the Moon, hence will idnicate

emotional/subjective changes in someone's life. Rasi-based Dasas like

Narayana, Drig, Sudasa etc. are based on the Sun's divisions, so they will

idnicate external results. You could indeed say that for a person with

majority of planets in one of the halves the respective Dasa type will be

more informative, still every person has both subjective and objective sides

to their lives, therefore both Dasa types should be referred to

respectively.

 

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Dear Alex,

 

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YOU HAVE GIVEN A NICE ANALOGY WITH THE GUITAR. THESE ANALOGIES ALWAYS HELP

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Frank in Austin

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Saturday, November 03, 2001 11:45 PM

RE: [sjvc] Lesson 1.: Astronomical Definitions

Namaste,

Yes as the others have mentioned...the Houses or Bhava's represent the

environment around us...and Lord Narayan

or the back drop or the total environment.

there are different levels of influence or harmonics, so we have different

charts for evaluation e.g. D1 charts

through the D-60th

 

The Graha's represent people and influences as they transit through the Bhava.

 

I see it as a 12 sting guitar.... the 12 strings = the 12 houses. As one picks

or strums the guitar or goes though life,

different vibrations are created, some are harmonic ( positive yoga formations

) and melodic and some are with discord creating negative influences. A person's

Rasi Chakra upon birth sets up an initial cord and key ( Key of C, or A flat, or

B minor) that a person is born with. Over time the cord patterns ( dasas of

Narayan, Vimshottari, etc) play out in that key, so a person

gets to experience various vibrations within the 12 string construct.

The analogy gives the 12 houses as the back drop ...the finer picking or

strumming are the Graha's going from house to house.

 

just a thought!

! Shanti, Shanti Shanti Frank in Austin , Fschmidt (AT) Austin (DOT) rr.com

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[sjvc] Lesson 1.: Astronomical Definitions

JAYA JAGANNATHA!

 

Dear Frank,

 

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Very scholarly indeed. Now the question is the same as for Jay, what is the

astrological difference between the role of Grahas and Nakshatras?

 

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Namaste,

Questions:

1. Changing Seasons - due to the incline of 23 1/2 degrees and the circum-path

of the earth around Surya... This tilt , then influences and regulates the

seasons. IN the summer, the northern hemisphere is tilted *into* the Sun (

and by the way we are the furthest away ( Aphelion) from the Sun ( in absolute

miles) then in the winter.

This tilt is of great importance: the precession of the equinoxes are

controlled by this motion of the wobble of the earth. This then creates a

"Cone of Precession" that changes out our north pole star every ~26,000.

We are now "precessing " to the star of Vega - due in the year 14,000.

1.2 WE HAVE VARIOUS SEASONS regulated by the Sun and the amount of light that

falls upon the earth at Different Latitudes:

A. Basant - spring

B. Greesham - Summer

C. Varsha - Rainy

D. Sharad - Autumn

E. Hemant - Dewy

E. Shishria - Winter

1.3 Some key positions for the Sun: Uttarayana or its travel north as it enters

Capricorn through Gemini

Dakshinayana or it's

southern travel as it enters Cancer and finishes

the 30th degree of

Sagittarius ( which houses Moola or the center of

of the Galaxy.

1.4 Surya as the center of our solar system ( and at an angle of 62 degrees to

the galactic plane we dare in) rotates around the center of our Galaxy....We

live in on of the spiral arms of the milky way , Carina Cygnus arm ( the two

others are Peruses and Sagittarius)

 

2. Rising and Setting of Surya: Maximum Latitudes are Tropic of Cancer ( 23 1/2

degrees North Latitude) for Northern Hemisphere; Tropic of Capricorn ( 23 1/2

Degrees South) for Southern Hemisphere).

Winter Solstice ( Dev 21-22) - for higher North latitudes - the daylight is

*shorter" as the earth's axis points away from from the sun's rays, yet in the

southern hemisphere a full day of sun is available. It is the opposite for the

Summer solstice ( June 21-22)

Equinox - were day and night are balanced March 21 and Sept 21)

3.Moving and non Moving - Graha's and Nakshatra

Graha - moving planets and energy ( also 9 Upagrahas or mathematical point)

Houses ( Bhava ) and signs - owned by Surya

Nakshatra - 27 constellations owned by Chandra

The Graha's transit ( Gochara) the Nakshatra and stimulate and pick up and

transmit the influence of their nature with thenature of the Nakshatra ( for

mind) and House .

 

4. Charka of Chart - form my D1 chart:

a. Lagna = 8:01 Sco or 218 degrees 01 min from 0 degrees Aries

b. Planets above the horizon - Guru in the 6th; Rahu in the 3rd; Moon is

setting at 16:33 Ta Mercury, Venus, Ketu and Sun are strongly placed in

the 9th below the horizon.

c. Bhaskara ( Sun) is traveling in Dakshininaya or Yamyayana) as it enters

Cancer 2 degrees.

planets locations, Nakstrata's are shown below:

July 17, 1952Time: 15:22:30Time Zone: 6:00:00 (West of

GMT)Longitude: 87 W 40' 25"Latitude: 41 N 54' 10"Altitude: 0.00

meters

 

Lunar Year: NandanaLunar Month: AshadhaTithi: Krishna Dwadasi (78.75%

left)Weekday: ThursdayNakshatra: Rohini (50.84% left)Yoga:

VriddhiKarana: KaulavaHora Lord: Sun

 

Sunrise: 4:31:11Sunset: 19:20:32Janma Ghatis: 27.1383

 

Body Longitude Nakshatra

Lagna 8 Sc 01' 01.09" Anuradha -Sun 2 Cn 00' 16.17"

Punarvasu

Moon 16 Ta 33' 15.18" Rohini

Mars 16 Li 06' 17.49" Swathi Mercury 28 Cn 32' 57.41"

Aasresha

Jupiter 23 Ar 23' 34.98" Bharani Venus 8 Cn 21' 12.27"

Pushyami

Saturn 16 Vi 08' 14.35" Hastha Rahu 29 Cp 43' 51.03"

Dhanishtha Ketu 29 Cn 43' 51.03" Aasresha -

+--------------+|AL |Jup |Moo

HL | || | | | ||

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|Sun Mer || | |Ven Ket ||

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Rasi |-----------||Rah | |Mnd Glk ||

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|Asc |Mar GL |Sat || | |

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+--------------+|Mer Ket | |Moo

Sat |AL || | | | ||

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||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||Mar |

|Sun || | | ||

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Navamsa |-----------|| | |Glk ||

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||-----------+-----------------------+-----------|| |Jup GL |

|Asc Ven || |Mnd | |Rah HL ||

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JAYA JAGANNATHA!

 

Dear Abhilekh,

 

Namaste.

 

Respected Gurujis,

 

Please find my attempt at Lesson 1 down below. I did have some questions before

I could make an attempt.

 

Questions/Clarifications:

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1. In section 1.1, it is written that there is an imaginary line running around

the Earth in the exact middle that divides the Earth into northern and southern

hemisphere. The difference is visible in the changes of seasons. The question is

how does this alone make the location of a native a determinant factor? And

next, even if we assume that it IS a factor just based on change of seasons,

does it only divide the Earth into TWO parts or more than that? In other words,

what about two people born in the northern hemisphere at the same time in

different locations?

 

Actually both the longitude and latitude influence the exact structure of the

chart. You can excperiment by giving a certain point it time and a fixed time

xone (which menas that it will be a fixed time in universal time, so the

planets' degrees will be fixed) and try changing the coordinates and see what

happens to the different components of the chart.

 

2. In section 2.2, the second line is 'It will be either negative if the planet

is above the northern hemisphere or positve in case the planet is above the

eastern hemisphere'. Why northern and eastern? Why not northern and southern? I

would like to request you to make it clearer by diagrams, if possible.

 

Yes, this was a typo. It should be southern. Could you correct it Solai in th pdf file?

I'm not os expert in computer diagrams, but if someone could help me out on

this, then I would be happy, Candramukha has already sent one which we could

incorporate into the pdf lesson. I have also attached two pictures to this

email.

 

3. Is the ecliptic or Ravimarga really an ellipse or is it a curved line? or arc of a circle?

 

It is basically the tilted line that was mentioned by others. The Ayanamsha

makes it a bit more complicated.

 

4. If possible, could you please provide a diagram to provide an example for the

definition of the celestial latitude. I am unable to visualise it on my own.

 

Any volunteers for this task? I can easily draw it on a blackboard, but unable

to trick it into the computer.

 

Yours,

 

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Dear Karthik,

 

Namaste.

 

Q3: Non moving bodies are the nakshatras(constellations) and hence

rasis, and moving bodies are the grahas and upa-grahas.

Like wise, I think upa-grahas, rise out of the rotation of the earth

relative to the grahas. which other grahas im not sure, but upaketu

could be related to ketu.

 

We will get back to the Upagraghas later on.

 

I think Lagna, rises out of the rotation of the earth relative to the

sun.

But I am confused about GL and HL then. GL and HL move faster than

the lagna, 5 times and 2 times. So what could they represent?

 

Lagna is correct, rest later.

 

Movement of earth relative to what?

The nakshatras, and hence rasis could represent a particular

characteristic, and the grahas / lagna postitioned in a particular

rasi / nakshatra / pada of a nakshatra could confer certain

characteristics that make us enjoy / suffer our past karmas.

During my birth, moon was in asalesha, which represents sarpa

characteristics, there by conferring me characteristics of a snake to

my mind(moon). Thus i could experience sudden waves of anger in my

mind.

Different lords are associated with different constellations as well

as rasis.

I think Planets owning the constellations / nakshatras, represent

their respective exaltations, moolatrikona and own houses.

I would be very obliged if guruji could correct me here.

Ju has Punarvasu, visaka, and p. bhadra as its exaltation, moola-

trikona, and own house respectively.

But the same does not seem to be applicable everywhere, mercury's

moolatrikona is in a nakshatra owned by sun. Why is this?

 

I am not entierly sure why a particular rasi should be owned by a

graha, and why sun and moon have only one rasi. My thoughts ramble

with an explanation that these are luminaries and always confer

light, while the others are merely reflecting light, and thus

sometimes bright and sometimes dark, hence, it could mean that they

confer both qualities of karmas to a person (good and bad).

 

The relation between the Grahas and Rasis will be explained later on.

 

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