Guest guest Posted October 29, 2001 Report Share Posted October 29, 2001 HARE RAMA KRISHNA VYAM VYASADEVAYA NAMAH Dear Gurudev and List members, I have some questions on the 6th house.The 6th house stands for enemies, debt , diseases etc.In COVA, Gurudev Shri Sanjay Rath writes that there are no true enemies and that enemies exist only in the material plane.Thus, enemies have to be seen from the arudha of the 6th house.Further, lagna is satyapeetha and arudha lagna is maya peetha.If so, what enemies are seen in the 6th house from lagna.we are made up of soul,mind and body(material energy).Sun is the natural Atmakarak, chandra is manah karak and the lagna stands for body.But, the body is not the truth.Then how can the lagna be the satyapeetha? The standard texts say that the chart readings have to be deciphered from lagna(body) as well as moon(mind).But, I have not seen a similar rule for Sun(soul).[Of course, in matter of father(a different signification), readings are taken from Sun].Is it because the 6th from Sun has no role as the soul has no enemies and similarly the other houses such as 8th(soul does not die) etc also have no role.This might be contrary to western astrology in which high reliance is placed on readings from sun.At this point, i stand thoroughly confused.Please guide me. Your sishya, K.N.Sriram Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2001 Report Share Posted October 29, 2001 OM. Dear learned gurudev and members, My understanding is that the 6th from AL shows how enemies percieve the native. I will be obliged if guru;s can thorw a light on this futher. Regards Katti Narahari sjvc, "Sriram.N.Kizhakkemadam" <snk110> wrote: > HARE RAMA KRISHNA > VYAM VYASADEVAYA NAMAH > > Dear Gurudev and List members, > I have some questions on the 6th house.The 6th house stands for > enemies, debt , diseases etc.In COVA, Gurudev Shri Sanjay Rath writes > that there are no true enemies and that enemies exist only in the > material plane.Thus, enemies have to be seen from the arudha of the > 6th house.Further, lagna is satyapeetha and arudha lagna is maya > peetha.If so, what enemies are seen in the 6th house from lagna.we > are made up of soul,mind and body(material energy).Sun is the natural > Atmakarak, chandra is manah karak and the lagna stands for body.But, > the body is not the truth.Then how can the lagna be the satyapeetha? > The standard texts say that the chart readings have to be deciphered > from lagna(body) as well as moon(mind).But, I have not seen a similar > rule for Sun(soul).[Of course, in matter of father(a different > signification), readings are taken from Sun].Is it because the 6th > from Sun has no role as the soul has no enemies and similarly the > other houses such as 8th(soul does not die) etc also have no > role.This might be contrary to western astrology in which high > reliance is placed on readings from sun.At this point, i stand > thoroughly confused.Please guide me. > > Your sishya, > > K.N.Sriram Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2001 Report Share Posted October 29, 2001 OHM SHRI RAGAVENDRAYA NAMAH JAYA JAGANNATHA Namaste Sriram, Here is a quick reply. Comments are below. I have some questions on the 6th house.The 6th house stands for enemies, debt , diseases etc.In COVA, Gurudev Shri Sanjay Rath writes that there are no true enemies and that enemies exist only in the material plane.Thus, enemies have to be seen from the arudha of the 6th house.Further, lagna is satyapeetha and arudha lagna is maya peetha.If so, what enemies are seen in the 6th house from lagna. SOLAI: From the lagna or the houses counted from lagna we will see the benefit or support or happiness or troubles related to the house. For example, from the 5th house from lagna, it is seen whether a person will get happiness or enjoy the benefit of children. If the 5th house is completely afflicted the native may not get children. But, if it is slightly afflicted or afflicted but has benefic influence, the native will have children but he may have have the happiness from them. Say he may be separated from them or get friction with them etc, Whereas from the 6th house from Arudha, we see the number of children. How the world perceive that a person get happiness or Putrasukham? They perceive from the no. of children the native has. They need not bothered about whether the native really enjoys with the children. Similarly, for the enemies, 6th from lagna shows, whether a person is under the attack of enemies etc. From the Arudha, it shows the may attached to the perception of quantity of enemies. More later. we are made up of soul,mind and body(material energy).Sun is the natural Atmakarak, chandra is manah karak and the lagna stands for body.But, the body is not the truth.Then how can the lagna be the satyapeetha? SOLAI: Atma :- cannot be seen, it has to be realise. Manas:- is not real. When you are sleeping, when you are under anesthesia or when a person under coma, Manas or Mind is nowhere. So, it is not real. It is only a maya. To know more about think and find out Where is Sriram in your body? Lagna or body: is real you can see it feel it and you call that body as real. The standard texts say that the chart readings have to be deciphered from lagna(body) as well as moon(mind).But, I have not seen a similar rule for Sun(soul).[Of course, in matter of father(a different signification), readings are taken from Sun]. SOLAI: You mentioned earlier Sun is Atmakaraka. What is mean by Atmakara. He is the soul. That is why soul comes from father. What is given in standard texts are digests only, we have to infer a lot from them. Is it because the 6th from Sun has no role as the soul has no enemies and similarly the other houses such as 8th(soul does not die) etc also have no role.This might be contrary to western astrology in which high reliance is placed on readings from sun.At this point, i stand thoroughly confused.Please guide me. No. The role of Atmakaraka is seen from the Chara Atmakaraka. Whatever we want we have to read from there. But, let us leave the western concepts. Your sishya,K.N.Sriram Thanks Solai Kannan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2001 Report Share Posted October 30, 2001 Hare Rama Krishna Namaste Sriram, Let me share my view point on this. Arudha Lagna is a shadow of Lagna itself and nothing else. It is computed on the basis of position of Lagna lord from Lagna. Also, importantly, Arudhas are computed for all the houses & not only for Lagna. If you focus on Lagna alone (and not on Moon & Sun at this point), the significance of Satya & Maya becomes more clear I think. Secondly, while several bhava phalas are mentioned in standard texts, with reference to what(AL,GL,Paka Lagna etc.,) is not mentioned and it may simply be a mistake to take everything from Lagna. Gurudev's comment about 'true enemies'in COVA, as I understand, is about which reference to choose. I must say that I have to learn much more in this area. Thirdly, regarding relative importance of Sun in western astrology, compared to vedic astrology: Vedic astrology considers, Sun (& its entire system) revolving around NARAYANA. Therefore, we have ayanamsa. Western astrology considers Sun as the centre of this universe.(This part is what I read & understood from Gurudev's mail in the context of Ayanamsa, my understanding could be wrong!). Hope this helps and also Gurudev & others please correct me if I am wrong. Regards viswanadham sjvc, "Sriram.N.Kizhakkemadam" <snk110> wrote: > HARE RAMA KRISHNA > VYAM VYASADEVAYA NAMAH > > Dear Gurudev and List members, > I have some questions on the 6th house.The 6th house stands for > enemies, debt , diseases etc.In COVA, Gurudev Shri Sanjay Rath writes > that there are no true enemies and that enemies exist only in the > material plane.Thus, enemies have to be seen from the arudha of the > 6th house.Further, lagna is satyapeetha and arudha lagna is maya > peetha.If so, what enemies are seen in the 6th house from lagna.we > are made up of soul,mind and body(material energy).Sun is the natural > Atmakarak, chandra is manah karak and the lagna stands for body.But, > the body is not the truth.Then how can the lagna be the satyapeetha? > The standard texts say that the chart readings have to be deciphered > from lagna(body) as well as moon(mind).But, I have not seen a similar > rule for Sun(soul).[Of course, in matter of father(a different > signification), readings are taken from Sun].Is it because the 6th > from Sun has no role as the soul has no enemies and similarly the > other houses such as 8th(soul does not die) etc also have no > role.This might be contrary to western astrology in which high > reliance is placed on readings from sun.At this point, i stand > thoroughly confused.Please guide me. > > Your sishya, > > K.N.Sriram Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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