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Dear Sateesh,

 

> Again, if Jupiter is in Pisces at 29 Degrees, and another Planet is in Libra

> 1 Degree, are Jupiter and that Planet mutually in 7th House Aspect or not

> (being almost seven signs across, but not quite)?

 

The terms "7th house aspect, 5th house aspect" etc were further *clarified* by

Parasara in the section on "Drik Bala" (under shadbalas).

 

A planet casts aspects based on its longitude. The magnitude of the aspect cast

on a point in the zodiac by a planet depends on the longitude of the planet

and the longitude of the aspected point. Magnitude of the aspect is a function

of these two real numbers. The rasis occupied are irrelevant.

 

If Jupiter is in Pisces, some people may say that he aspects Virgo, Cancer and

Scorpio. But as per Parasara's clear teachings (under the section on "Drik

Bala"), Jupiter aspects almost all of the zodiac, though with varying magnitude

of aspect. That "magnitude of aspect" depends on longitudes and not the

individual rasis.

 

> It seems you are not in favour of using "Bhava" Charts - is that right?

> Since these do not agree with the mere Borders of Signs (Aries, Pisces,

> etc.), and go from the Mid-Points of the exact Ascendant Placement (at

> Birth) instead, when judging Borders of the Houses?

 

As I understand Parasara's teachings, he defined 16 different charts called

kshetra (called "rasi" these days), hora, drekkana etc. Remember that kshetra

(rasi) chakra is one of them.

 

All these charts are fields of integers. Each rasi is mapped to an interger

(1-12), i.e. the rasi occupied. Though several concepts (like graha drishti and

combustion) are defined based on longitudes, these 16 charts are simply integer

fields. The same rules apply to all of them.

 

When defining bhava chakras (w.r.t. various reference points - lagna, hora

lagna, ghati lagna, Sun, Moon, Mars, Mercury etc), Parasara mentioned taking the

sign occupied by the reference and counting signs.

 

So the "bhava chakra" I use is defined for these "integer fields". It is not the

standard Sripathi division of houses that I use and recommend.

 

My whole approach is based on the principle that kshetra (rasi) chakra is one of

the sixteen divisional charts. that it is an integer field (not a field of real

numbers) and that the same principles apply for all the 16 divisional charts

(including rasi chart).

 

WELL, DIFFERENT TEACHERS TEACH DIFFERENTLY HERE. I mentioned my preference just

for your information. You can choose whatever makes sense to you.

 

> I prefer the Sign-Borders, by the way - it's so much easier - but since the

> Zodiac doesn't physically exist (it's only the Nakshatras that do), I'd be

 

Though signs don't exist physically as you say, whole astrology depends on

those. We have clear distinction and clear lordships.

 

> interested in reasons about why

> Zodiacal Sign Borders should/shouldn't be respected, in favour of Bhava

> calculated Charts.

 

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

Narasimha

[Guest guest]

Regarding the strength & disposition conveyed by various aspects acc to

BPHS, I have been given to understand the following :

 

Strength (Drik Bala) : as you rightly pointed out, a continuum of varying

strengths are projected by a planet, with 100% at 7th aspect =exactly 180*

(etc : eg. + 4=90*, 8=210* for Mars, etc) and weakening aspect strengths at

other longitudes, proportional to exact distance in degrees. This is used

ONLY for Shadbala calculations

 

However, for Disposition & rasi-interpretation, BPHS only uses the full

aspects and that too NOT by longitude, but full effect, based on rashi

distances (irrespective of longitudinal distance), and not even by bhava

distances

 

Is my understanding correct ?

 

Regards

Nandan

[Guest guest]

Dear Nandan,

 

> Regarding the strength & disposition conveyed by various aspects acc to

> BPHS, I have been given to understand the following :

>

> Strength (Drik Bala) : as you rightly pointed out, a continuum of varying

> strengths are projected by a planet, with 100% at 7th aspect =exactly 180*

> (etc : eg. + 4=90*, 8=210* for Mars, etc) and weakening aspect strengths at

> other longitudes, proportional to exact distance in degrees. This is used

> ONLY for Shadbala calculations

>

> However, for Disposition & rasi-interpretation, BPHS only uses the full

> aspects and that too NOT by longitude, but full effect, based on rashi

> distances (irrespective of longitudinal distance), and not even by bhava

> distances

 

That is one viewpoint.

 

My view is that Parasara mentioned graha drishti approximately first and

intended us to understand that the aspect magnitudes mentioned under "drik

bala" later were to *complete* the picture!

 

In any case, Parasara also defined rasi aspects (popularly called "Jaimini

aspects" these days). They depend on rasis occupied.

 

> Is my understanding correct ?

 

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

Narasimha

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