Guest guest Posted September 30, 1999 Report Share Posted September 30, 1999 Dear All, I have seen on other web-sites that it is written the Ancients of India did INDEED know of Uranus / Neptune / Pluto's existence - however, they also state that the Rishis did not use them NOT because they were Evil, but their effects were too slow moving for the average Human Life Span - I have also seen it stated that they are "Octaves" (which I guess means "equivalents") of Venus / Mercury / Mars (can't remember which Outer was said to be similar in Nature to which "Vedic" Planet, though. It is possible that in the Transitional Period of thousands of Years from when Parasara first wrote down the BPHS, Pages have been "lost" or not noted down in subsequent "re-prints" of his original work - who knew as much as they do about Ancient Egypt, until someone stumbled on certain aspects of it? I agree that some things are revealed to us "by accident" when the Gods feel the time is right. There is no proof that certain elements of the "original" BPHS weren't deleted mistakenly or deliberately. Just speculation, I know - but maybe if there do indeed exist these "missing Pages", we will find evidence that Parashara was the Creator of Varshaphal, too! Very best regards - Sateesh. ====================== - Pursottam Dabasia <pursottam_dabasia <Vedicstar; <gjlist Thursday, September 30, 1999 5:08 PM Re: Fwd: Pluto > Om Krishnaay Namah > > Dear Dr. Roberts. > > >>Hmmmm, what is this Pluto thing I hear you talking > about. Is this in the Shastras? In which chapter of > Parashara or Phala Deepika is this described? << > > I've interpreted this question as being rhetorical and > anti-outer planet use. If you did ask sincerely my > apologies for the misunderstanding. Nevertheless, the > answer to the question, is that none of the standard > Vedic astrological scriptures mention the outers, in > their current form. There is some convincing evidence > that Sri Vyasa Muni did mention the outers in the > Mahabharata. But whether he did or didn't there is no > doubt in my mind that the Maharishi's did know about > the outers, because they got their info from Brahmaji, > the creator of our universe. For some reason, it seems > that they have not discussed use of the outers. Some > say this is because they didn't want us to use them > and this is where I disagree. I don't see any real > reason for that. Whether or not the outers are used, > it is obvious that they DO have use. I'm sure > Parashara recognised this as well. I personally think > that, well, you know how there's a lot more than > Parashara told us, I think the use of outers is > probably hidden in there somewhere. There are so many > techniques used that were not mentioned by Parashara. > For example, Parashara doesn't ever EXPLICITLY mention > Varshaphala. Yet it is widely used and respected. > Parashara himself doesn't talk about Mrityu Bhaga > degrees, but we use them. Many people use things they > find after doing their own research. I, and many > others, use outer planets, even though Parashara > doesn't explicitly mention them. In all the above > cases, their is no intention to be disrespectful to > the Sages, or to be anti-Vedic or anything like that. > We simply want to be scientific about these things, > which is the spirit of Varahamihira, Parashara etc. > I'm sure that if Maitreya asked Parashara: > > "O Maharishi! Many talk of using the three outer > planets, known by the name of Uranus, Neptune and > Pluto. In your all-knowing opinion, is their basis for > using these planets?" > > Parashara would reply something like: > > "O Vipra! When the Great grandfather, Brahmadeva > created this universe, under the command of the > Supreme Lord Sri Vishnu, he placed these three planets > there for a reason. These planets should be made of > use in astrological interpretation, for they can, when > properly used, be a great aid to the interpretation of > past karma, especially for the fools of the Kali Yuga, > who will in time forget how to use other techniques I > have expounded so far. Therefore, like the > Ashtakavarga, the use of the three outers is bound to > be useful, and has been reserved in particular for > those of the Kali Yuga." > > Now this is my guess at Parashara's feeling on the > outers. Put it this way, nobody has been able to show > me that me using the outers would in some way, upset > or offend Parashara. If anyone can convince me, I will > gladly give up use of the outer planets. > > Right now, my position is that they are useful, and > therefore I will use them, > > Pursottam > __________ > > Get your free @.co.uk address at http://mail..co.uk > or your free @.ie address at http://mail..ie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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