Guest guest Posted September 15, 1999 Report Share Posted September 15, 1999 Pranaam Sanjay, Sorry for the delay in answering your questions. > JAYA JAGANNATH > Dear Narasimha, > Between Aries and Pisces, your choise of Aries is very correct as the > Ghatika lagna in D-10. Provided that the Saptamsa Lagna does not alter, we > can finalise this as Jayalalitha's time. What is the final time of birth and > the final GL, HL and Lagna cusp? (1) In your book, you gave Jayalalita's lagna at 20Ge44 and my rectification takes it just above 21Ge00. As you know, D-7 lagna changes at 17.1428 deg and 21.4286. So my rectification does *not* alter D-7 lagna. We both have her D-7 lagna in Li. (2) With the time given in your book (2:34 pm), I am giving the cusps below. Lahiri ayanamsa is used. Lagna: 20 Ge 43' 34" GL: 17 Li 45' 35" (Approach 1) GL: 16 Li 31' 47" (Approach 2) With approach 2, GL in D-10 has to be Pi if lagna in D-10 is Sg. If you want GL to be Ar (which we both prefer), lagna has to be Cp. However, with approach 2, you can have Sg lagna and Ar ghati lagna in D-10 for a short while. Lagna changes from Sg to Cp *after* GL changes from Pi to Ar! Though I am not sure, I think you prefer approach 1 (Varahamihira's advice). In that case, you do *not* have to reconcile with my rectification of Cp lagna in D-10 to get GL in Aries. Now I will describe the two approaches I mentioned. Approach 1: Sun's first rays are visible. Upper tip of Sun's disk is still below horizon, but Sun's rays are visible due to atmospheric refraction. I used "apparent topocentric" positions here and let Sun's center be below the horizon by the sum due to (1) Sun's radius and (2) average expected atmospheric refraction. Approach 2: Sun's upper limb is truly on the horizon. I used "true topocentric" positions here and let Sun's center be below the horizon by the an amount due to Sun's radius. [Note: "True" position here refers to making a correction for the finite speed of light. Light takes some time to come to us from Sun. The position where we see Sun is the position a little while ago, truly speaking.] Of course, there is also approach 3, which takes Sun's center on the horizon. I skipped it as I don't think either of us is interested in that. > I think you should be using the very > accurate new program for this. Yes, I am. May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 1999 Report Share Posted September 16, 1999 JAYA JAGANNATH Dear Narasimha, Thanks. I stick to the "Garland of Varahamihira for the present". Did you read the article on Sun-rise on the latest issue of the Jyotish News? Can I have your views on them. In case you need extracts of Vishnu Purana, I'll try to mail them. Hare Rama Krishna Sanjay Rath - Narasimha Rao <pvr <vedic astrology > Cc: SJVC Astrology Class <varahamihira >; SJVC <sjvc >; GJLIST <gjlist Thursday, September 16, 1999 5:56 AM [vedic astrology] Ghati Lagna Cusps of Jayalalita > Pranaam Sanjay, > > Sorry for the delay in answering your questions. > > > JAYA JAGANNATH > > Dear Narasimha, > > Between Aries and Pisces, your choise of Aries is very correct as the > > Ghatika lagna in D-10. Provided that the Saptamsa Lagna does not alter, we > > can finalise this as Jayalalitha's time. What is the final time of birth and > > the final GL, HL and Lagna cusp? > > (1) In your book, you gave Jayalalita's lagna at 20Ge44 and my rectification > takes it just above 21Ge00. As you know, D-7 lagna changes at 17.1428 deg and > 21.4286. > > So my rectification does *not* alter D-7 lagna. We both have her D-7 lagna in > Li. > > (2) With the time given in your book (2:34 pm), I am giving the cusps below. > Lahiri ayanamsa is used. > > Lagna: 20 Ge 43' 34" > GL: 17 Li 45' 35" (Approach 1) > GL: 16 Li 31' 47" (Approach 2) > > With approach 2, GL in D-10 has to be Pi if lagna in D-10 is Sg. If you want GL > to be Ar (which we both prefer), lagna has to be Cp. > > However, with approach 2, you can have Sg lagna and Ar ghati lagna in D-10 for a > short while. Lagna changes from Sg to Cp *after* GL changes from Pi to Ar! > > Though I am not sure, I think you prefer approach 1 (Varahamihira's advice). In > that case, you do *not* have to reconcile with my rectification of Cp lagna in > D-10 to get GL in Aries. > > Now I will describe the two approaches I mentioned. > > Approach 1: Sun's first rays are visible. Upper tip of Sun's disk is still below > horizon, but Sun's rays are visible due to atmospheric refraction. I used > "apparent topocentric" positions here and let Sun's center be below the horizon > by the sum due to (1) Sun's radius and (2) average expected atmospheric > refraction. > > Approach 2: Sun's upper limb is truly on the horizon. I used "true topocentric" > positions here and let Sun's center be below the horizon by the an amount due to > Sun's radius. [Note: "True" position here refers to making a correction for the > finite speed of light. Light takes some time to come to us from Sun. The > position where we see Sun is the position a little while ago, truly speaking.] > > Of course, there is also approach 3, which takes Sun's center on the horizon. I > skipped it as I don't think either of us is interested in that. > > > I think you should be using the very > > accurate new program for this. > > Yes, I am. > > May Jupiter's light shine on us, > Narasimha > > > > ------ > MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online. > Start with up to 150 Points for joining! > http://clickhere./click/805 > > > eGroups.com home: vedic astrology > - Simplifying group communications > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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