Guest guest Posted September 11, 1999 Report Share Posted September 11, 1999 JAYA JAGANNATHDear Narasimha, Portions we have agreed to have been cropped. The remaining continue. As such the discussion on Mahapurusha Yoga's is over and only some portions pertaining to D-Charts remains. These are as foolows: (A) Astakavarga in D-Charts: BTW, Venus has 5 bindus and occupies a sign with 32 bindus in D-10. RATH: Is this SAV in the D-10 or the Rasi Chart? If so, does this result alter drastically for Sagittarius Lagna? If not, then this statement has no meaning as it does not see differences between Cp & Sg. This is SAV on the D-10, because we are talking about D-10. Bindus in SAV in Gemini (that houses Venus) come down from 32 to 27 if lagna is changed from Cp to Sg. BTW, I mentioned this point only to show why Venus dasa can be good despite Venus being in 6th giving duryoga. Ashtakavarga strength works with the fact that Venus is a yogakaraka for Cp lagna! The mere presence of 32 Bindu's is not adequate to give Rajyoga. Rajyoga cannot be defined on the basis of Astakavarga Bindu. If Venus is in the sixth house, then the houses owned by it are destroyed. This may be good or bad depending on the Lagna involved. For Capricorn or Aquarius, this is disastrous. In the Dasamsa, the focus is the tenth house and for Sagitarius Lagna, Virgo is the tenth with venus as aYogakaraka for it and placed in a Kendra and aspecting the tenth thereby being the prime determinant of profession. For Capricorn, the placement of Venus in the sixth would destroy the activities fo Libra (10th) and Taurus (5th), thereby making for a very ordinary chart. (B)The way I look at it, lagna shows one's true nature. When looking at victory in a battle royal or political power, true nature is not what matters. Arudha lagna (perceptions) and ghatika lagna (power) are much more important. Mars in 8th from lagna shows being under pressure and also hidden activities. Being GL lord aspecting GL from 5th and having viparita raja yoga, Mars can give political power. I don't see being in 8th from lagna as a factor that rules it out. RATH: If you consider the 8th is a GOOD HOUSE for professional matters, then please define the BAD houses in a chart. I am not saying that 8th is a good house, Sanjay. It IS a bad house. But a planet placed in 8th from lagna can still give good material results, if it has rajayoga w.r.t. arudha lagna and ghatika lagna. I am only saying that arudha lagna and ghatika lagna are more important reference points than lagna, when analyzing her political power. On a related note, I saw many people with lagna lord in lagna in rasi chart (like you), who experienced good luck in the Sudasa of the 8th house. If lagna lord is in lagna, 8th house will be the 11th from arudha lagna. Despite being a bad house from lagna, it typically gives excellent material success. This is because arudha lagna is more important for matters relating to the illusions of this material world, than lagna. Please look at my above point on D-10 in the same spirit. Being placed in the fifth from ghatika lagna does not give POWER. Being the Lord of Ghatika Lagna gives power. That is why bith Parasara and Jaimini have clearly spelt out the POWER giving abilities of the lord of Ghatika Lagna or the seventh from it. To study the Ghatika Lagna as a Lagna means to examine the support bases and obstructions to exercise of this power. Thus, a lord of Ghatika Lagna in the fifth from it will indicate that the followers (ruled by the fifth house) will be youngsters (Mars) and will be passionately attached to her (fifth house matters) thereby showing her fan following. Ghatika Lagna lord in the sixth from it will indicate the servants who will strongly support the power of the native. In this manner the results of houses from Ghatika lagna should be studied. As regards Arudha Lagna, the same in the tenth in Virgo is aspected by Yogakaraka Venus (For arudha) showing her movie career clearly. Mars is the 3rd & 8th Lord in the 12th house generating a vipareeta rajyoga or that her rise will also result in the destruction of somebody else (first wife of MGR). Mercury is the Lord of AL and is placed in an Upachaya both from the Lagna and AL. ©> Secondly, does the GL get altered for Sagittarius rising in > the D-10, if not, then this statement is also meaning less as > it does not show any difference between Sg & Cp Lagna. > YOU HAVE USED FIFTH FROM GL OUT HERE KNOWING WELL > MY VIEWS ON THIS. You don't accept houses counted from GL, but I thought you accept "aspects" on GL. So I was stressing the *aspect* of Mars on GL (Aries) from 5th house. If you don't think "5th house" matters there, concentrate on the "aspect". I have clarified my views on this. Does this change for Capricorn or Sagittarius Lagna? Hare Rama Krishna, Sanjay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 1999 Report Share Posted September 12, 1999 Dear Rathji, Narasimhaji & others, Thank you for that excellent "jugalbandi" on Mahapurusha Yoga. A few clarifications would be appreciated: 1. Al Kumara gave the example of Jupiter in Cn for Cp & Ar lagna. Besides the functional nature of Jupiter for these two Asc there were some other considerations that you might be alluding to. Is the relation of Jupiter with Asc (Neecha in Cp/Friendly sign Ar) one of the other considerations? Any more? 2. Panchtatwa (five qualities?) as in the prominent characteristics of the five pandavas? Indriya's would indicate the ruling planets for these qualities & their disposition in the rasi chart? 3. In the dasamsa analysis of Jayalalitha, it appeared that delineation was based on taking 10th of D-10 as lagna and the relation of functional benefics/malefics, yogakara etc. wrt to 10th was considered. Not much attention to lagna here it seems? Or is that a secondary consideration? Regards, Prakash Sarma Sunnyvale, CA Bid and sell for free at http://auctions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 1999 Report Share Posted September 13, 1999 Dear Sanjay, > These Mahapurusha Yoga are dependant on the extent to which the Pancha > Tatwa, their respective Indriya's etc. are in perfect harmony with > nature thereby producing Godly qualities. The kendras are the material resources so link to the tatwas. D30 seems to be based on the tatwas also. Representing the "SHADOW SELF" wonder if "Godly" qualities have relevance here more then in other divisional charts obstructing the yoga. Also could exhalted Moon or Sun in trines give something like a Manas or Atma MahaPurusha? Excuse my slang. Thank you for the great discussions on these various topics. Best Regards, bill (WCS) At 07:52 AM 9/11/99 +0530, you wrote: >JAYA JAGANNATH >JAYA JAGANNATH > >Dear Jyotisha, > Am I going very fast or in a tangent? Especially with regard to things >like Brahma Vidya, mahapurusha Yoga etc.? I believe that knowledge cannot be >taken until we are prepared for it. This was the inference of the Great >experiment of Aurobindo. He had to leave His body due to its physical >limitations for Krishna Consciousness. Lord Jagannatha is forever, trying to >teach us, while we are not prepared to accept His teachings...the limitation >is within us His errant children. > The problem is when in a classroom, the questions from the Sisya keeps >my mind controlled and within the Limits of their grasp. While sitting in >front of a computer, I am mentally in Puri..No Limits to the depth of the >Ocean... > Thank you very much for bearing with me. >Best Regards, >Sanjay Rath Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 1999 Report Share Posted September 13, 1999 Yes Bill. Your understanding is right. Can you send me your chart and that of your wife? I can't find them..have been searching all the mail. I need to organise myself better..ketu in 10 is a real bother in my chart. Best Wishes, Sanjay Rath - William Schaffer <bschaffer <sjvc > Monday, September 13, 1999 7:43 PM [sjvc] Re: MahaPurusha Yogas > Dear Sanjay, > > > These Mahapurusha Yoga are dependant on the extent to which the Pancha > > Tatwa, their respective Indriya's etc. are in perfect harmony with > > nature thereby producing Godly qualities. > > The kendras are the material resources so link to the tatwas. D30 seems to > be based on the tatwas also. Representing the "SHADOW SELF" wonder if > "Godly" qualities have relevance here more then in other divisional charts > obstructing the yoga. > > Also could exhalted Moon or Sun in trines give something like a Manas or > Atma MahaPurusha? Excuse my slang. > > Thank you for the great discussions on these various topics. > > Best Regards, > bill (WCS) > > At 07:52 AM 9/11/99 +0530, you wrote: > >JAYA JAGANNATH > >JAYA JAGANNATH > > > >Dear Jyotisha, > > Am I going very fast or in a tangent? Especially with regard to things > >like Brahma Vidya, mahapurusha Yoga etc.? I believe that knowledge cannot be > >taken until we are prepared for it. This was the inference of the Great > >experiment of Aurobindo. He had to leave His body due to its physical > >limitations for Krishna Consciousness. Lord Jagannatha is forever, trying to > >teach us, while we are not prepared to accept His teachings...the limitation > >is within us His errant children. > > The problem is when in a classroom, the questions from the Sisya keeps > >my mind controlled and within the Limits of their grasp. While sitting in > >front of a computer, I am mentally in Puri..No Limits to the depth of the > >Ocean... > > Thank you very much for bearing with me. > >Best Regards, > >Sanjay Rath > > > ------ > MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online. > Start with up to 150 Points for joining! > http://clickhere./click/805 > > > eGroups.com home: sjvc > - Simplifying group communications > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 1999 Report Share Posted September 13, 1999 Dear List Members, OM! I have been reading with interest this discussion on the discussion of Mahapurusha Yogas. To my recollection it is the best discussion I have seen on this list and should serve as a model for future discussions as well as for the type of discussions we should be having on this list. I have a related question about these yogas. In my horoscope in the rashi chart I have Venus in the 9th in Taurus conjunct with Mars creating a Malavya Yoga (does Mars spoil it? I think so but maybe someone can interpret it for us). In the Navamasha and Dashamsha Venus is involved in a Parivartana yoga with Mercury (Venus in Virgo, and Mercury in Taurus). In the Navamasha the exchange takes place between the 2nd and 10th houses and in the Dashamsha the exchange is between 9th and 10th house. The Dashamsha also has Saturn in the Ascendant in a Sasha Yoga (another MahaPurush Yoga). I am by no stretch of imagination a MahaPurush! So what has "spoiled" this MahaPurush Yogas? Mars? The only aspect to the 9th in the Rashi chart is from Jupiter in Virgo in the Ascendant. Sanjayji, I know we have discussed the Parivartana + Debilitation in the 10th in the past and I hope your predictions come true so that is not what I am trying to understand or repeat. However here I am trying to understand the dynamics of MahaPurush yogas vis-a-vis the Varga charts. Does the debilitation in the Varga chart ruin the promise of a MahaPurush Yoga in the Rashi chart? If the planet in the MahaPurush Yoga is involved in Parivartana in the Varga charts what effect does it have on the MahaPurush Yogas in the Rashi chart? OM! Prakash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 1999 Report Share Posted September 13, 1999 Namaste Prakash, > I have a related question about these yogas. In my horoscope in the rashi > chart I have Venus in the 9th in Taurus conjunct with Mars creating a > Malavya Yoga (does Mars spoil it? I think so but maybe someone can interpret > it for us). It is not mahapurusha yoga, Mahapurusha is created by planet being in exaltaion,mooltrikon and swakshetra in kendra(quadrant) houses,not trines as some suggest. > In the Navamasha and Dashamsha Venus is involved in a > Parivartana yoga with Mercury (Venus in Virgo, and Mercury in Taurus). In > the Navamasha the exchange takes place between the 2nd and 10th houses and > in the Dashamsha the exchange is between 9th and 10th house. The Dashamsha > also has Saturn in the Ascendant in a Sasha Yoga (another MahaPurush Yoga). As Sanjayji pointed it is Akin to Mahapurusha.Neecha venus in navamsa will apart from affliction from mars in rashi spoil the rajayoga given by venus. It might create troubles in finance/marriage. Parivarthana bringsfocus to the concerned areas. In dasamsa,parivartana is good. > I am by no stretch of imagination a MahaPurush! So what has "spoiled" this > MahaPurush Yogas? Mars? The only aspect to the 9th in the Rashi chart is > from Jupiter in Virgo in the Ascendant. > > Sanjayji, I know we have discussed the Parivartana + Debilitation in the > 10th in the past and I hope your predictions come true so that is not what I > am trying to understand or repeat. However here I am trying to understand > the dynamics of MahaPurush yogas vis-a-vis the Varga charts. Does the > debilitation in the Varga chart ruin the promise of a MahaPurush Yoga in the > Rashi chart? If the planet in the MahaPurush Yoga is involved in Parivartana > in the Varga charts what effect does it have on the MahaPurush Yogas in the > Rashi chart? Dear Prakash, It is not mahapurusha and that should be clear at the first step I am hoping that Sanjayji will suggest some guidence through remedial measures to help your venus out, to fulfil the promise in the rashi chart. Warm regards, Zoran Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 1999 Report Share Posted September 14, 1999 JAYA JAGANNATH Dear Prakashji, I thought we were waiting for your Mercury period. Please confirm as I see many charts and details of each are hard to remember. secondly, the particular division being considered is important. In D-10, as far as finances are considered, debility is good, very good. Best Wishes, Sanjay Rath - Zoran Radosavljevic <satya Prakash Desai <pdesai Cc: Vedic-Astrology (AT) Egroups (DOT) Com <vedic astrology >; SJVC Astrology Class <varahamihira >; SJVC <sjvc >; GJList <gjlist Tuesday, September 14, 1999 8:35 AM [vedic astrology] Re: Mahapurusha yogas > Namaste Prakash, > > > I have a related question about these yogas. In my horoscope in the rashi > > chart I have Venus in the 9th in Taurus conjunct with Mars creating a > > Malavya Yoga (does Mars spoil it? I think so but maybe someone can interpret > > it for us). > > It is not mahapurusha yoga, Mahapurusha is created by planet > being in > exaltaion,mooltrikon > and swakshetra in kendra(quadrant) houses,not trines as some > suggest. > > > In the Navamasha and Dashamsha Venus is involved in a > > Parivartana yoga with Mercury (Venus in Virgo, and Mercury in Taurus). In > > the Navamasha the exchange takes place between the 2nd and 10th houses and > > in the Dashamsha the exchange is between 9th and 10th house. The Dashamsha > > also has Saturn in the Ascendant in a Sasha Yoga (another MahaPurush Yoga). > > As Sanjayji pointed it is Akin to Mahapurusha.Neecha venus in > navamsa will apart > > from affliction from mars in rashi spoil the rajayoga given by > venus. It might > create > troubles in finance/marriage. Parivarthana bringsfocus to the > concerned areas. > In > dasamsa,parivartana is good. > > > > I am by no stretch of imagination a MahaPurush! So what has "spoiled" this > > MahaPurush Yogas? Mars? The only aspect to the 9th in the Rashi chart is > > from Jupiter in Virgo in the Ascendant. > > > > Sanjayji, I know we have discussed the Parivartana + Debilitation in the > > 10th in the past and I hope your predictions come true so that is not what I > > am trying to understand or repeat. However here I am trying to understand > > the dynamics of MahaPurush yogas vis-a-vis the Varga charts. Does the > > debilitation in the Varga chart ruin the promise of a MahaPurush Yoga in the > > Rashi chart? If the planet in the MahaPurush Yoga is involved in Parivartana > > in the Varga charts what effect does it have on the MahaPurush Yogas in the > > Rashi chart? > > Dear Prakash, It is not mahapurusha and that should be clear at > the first step > I am hoping that Sanjayji will suggest some guidence through > remedial measures > to help your venus out, to fulfil the promise in the rashi chart. > Warm regards, > Zoran > > ------ > MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online. > Start with up to 150 Points for joining! > http://clickhere./click/805 > > > eGroups.com home: vedic astrology > - Simplifying group communications > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 1999 Report Share Posted September 14, 1999 Sanjayji, OM! Thanks for your prompt attention. Your memory serves you correctly about us waiting for Mercury period (five years for Vimshottari Dasha, currently running Gemini / Gemini - I think!). However what I was trying to understand in my feeble mind is the relationship between a potentially very beneficial Yoga in the Rashi chart and and that same planet involved in Parivartana yoga, Sasha Yoga, and debilitation. How does one go about analyzing (I want to learn the process with the interpretation as a confirming result - the icing on the cake) the dynamics of Rashi + Navamhsa + Dashamsha to get the "whole" picture where the same planets and houses are involved?! I hope I have been able to communicate what I am trying to learn! OM! Prakash ----Original Message Follows---- "Sanjay Rath" <srath "Sanjay Rath" <srath <vedic astrology >, "Prakash Desai" <pdesai CC: "SJVC Astrology Class" <varahamihira >, "SJVC" <sjvc >, "GJList" <gjlist Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Mahapurusha yogas Tue, 14 Sep 1999 18:05:40 +0530 JAYA JAGANNATH Dear Prakashji, I thought we were waiting for your Mercury period. Please confirm as I see many charts and details of each are hard to remember. secondly, the particular division being considered is important. In D-10, as far as finances are considered, debility is good, very good. Best Wishes, Sanjay Rath - Zoran Radosavljevic <satya Prakash Desai <pdesai Cc: Vedic-Astrology (AT) Egroups (DOT) Com <vedic astrology >; SJVC Astrology Class <varahamihira >; SJVC <sjvc >; GJList <gjlist Tuesday, September 14, 1999 8:35 AM [vedic astrology] Re: Mahapurusha yogas > Namaste Prakash, > > > I have a related question about these yogas. In my horoscope in the rashi > > chart I have Venus in the 9th in Taurus conjunct with Mars creating a > > Malavya Yoga (does Mars spoil it? I think so but maybe someone can interpret > > it for us). > > It is not mahapurusha yoga, Mahapurusha is created by planet > being in > exaltaion,mooltrikon > and swakshetra in kendra(quadrant) houses,not trines as some > suggest. > > > In the Navamasha and Dashamsha Venus is involved in a > > Parivartana yoga with Mercury (Venus in Virgo, and Mercury in Taurus). In > > the Navamasha the exchange takes place between the 2nd and 10th houses and > > in the Dashamsha the exchange is between 9th and 10th house. The Dashamsha > > also has Saturn in the Ascendant in a Sasha Yoga (another MahaPurush Yoga). > > As Sanjayji pointed it is Akin to Mahapurusha.Neecha venus in > navamsa will apart > > from affliction from mars in rashi spoil the rajayoga given by > venus. It might > create > troubles in finance/marriage. Parivarthana bringsfocus to the > concerned areas. > In > dasamsa,parivartana is good. > > > > I am by no stretch of imagination a MahaPurush! So what has "spoiled" this > > MahaPurush Yogas? Mars? The only aspect to the 9th in the Rashi chart is > > from Jupiter in Virgo in the Ascendant. > > > > Sanjayji, I know we have discussed the Parivartana + Debilitation in the > > 10th in the past and I hope your predictions come true so that is not what I > > am trying to understand or repeat. However here I am trying to understand > > the dynamics of MahaPurush yogas vis-a-vis the Varga charts. Does the > > debilitation in the Varga chart ruin the promise of a MahaPurush Yoga in the > > Rashi chart? If the planet in the MahaPurush Yoga is involved in Parivartana > > in the Varga charts what effect does it have on the MahaPurush Yogas in the > > Rashi chart? > > Dear Prakash, It is not mahapurusha and that should be clear at > the first step > I am hoping that Sanjayji will suggest some guidence through > remedial measures > to help your venus out, to fulfil the promise in the rashi chart. > Warm regards, > Zoran > > ------ > MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online. > Start with up to 150 Points for joining! > http://clickhere./click/805 > > > eGroups.com home: vedic astrology > - Simplifying group communications > > > > ____ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 1999 Report Share Posted October 1, 1999 Namaste All, We has very lively and thought provoking discussion on Panch Mahapurush yoga on this board. Is kendradhipatya dosa has any adverse effect on this yoga ? I have a chart with a mahapurush yoga caused by Venus and running present vimshottari dasa of Venus. This period & yoga has not proved good the native. In fact, he left his job and doing nothing. Why? Details are DoB: Oct 4, 1960 ToB: 19:00:00 hours PoB: Lat 25N40, Long 77E44 Regards Sunil Kumar "prakash desai" <desaip- wrote: original article:sjvc/?start=530 > > Sanjayji, > > OM! > > Thanks for your prompt attention. Your memory serves you correctly about us > waiting for Mercury period (five years for Vimshottari Dasha, currently > running Gemini / Gemini - I think!). > > However what I was trying to understand in my feeble mind is the > relationship between a potentially very beneficial Yoga in the Rashi chart > and and that same planet involved in Parivartana yoga, Sasha Yoga, and > debilitation. How does one go about analyzing (I want to learn the process > with the interpretation as a confirming result - the icing on the cake) the > dynamics of Rashi + Navamhsa + Dashamsha to get the "whole" picture where > the same planets and houses are involved?! > > I hope I have been able to communicate what I am trying to learn! > > OM! > Prakash > > ----Original Message Follows---- > "Sanjay Rath" <srath > "Sanjay Rath" <srath > <vedic astrology >, "Prakash Desai" <pdesai > CC: "SJVC Astrology Class" <varahamihira >, "SJVC" > <sjvc >, "GJList" <gjlist > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Mahapurusha yogas > Tue, 14 Sep 1999 18:05:40 +0530 > > JAYA JAGANNATH > Dear Prakashji, > I thought we were waiting for your Mercury period. Please confirm as I > see many charts and details of each are hard to remember. > secondly, the particular division being considered is important. In > D-10, as far as finances are considered, debility is good, very good. > Best Wishes, > Sanjay Rath > - > Zoran Radosavljevic <satya > Prakash Desai <pdesai > Cc: Vedic-Astrology (AT) Egroups (DOT) Com <vedic astrology >; SJVC > Astrology Class <varahamihira >; SJVC <sjvc >; GJList > <gjlist > Tuesday, September 14, 1999 8:35 AM > [vedic astrology] Re: Mahapurusha yogas > > > > Namaste Prakash, > > > > > I have a related question about these yogas. In my horoscope in the > rashi > > > chart I have Venus in the 9th in Taurus conjunct with Mars creating a > > > Malavya Yoga (does Mars spoil it? I think so but maybe someone can > interpret > > > it for us). > > > > It is not mahapurusha yoga, Mahapurusha is created by planet > > being in > > exaltaion,mooltrikon > > and swakshetra in kendra(quadrant) houses,not trines as some > > suggest. > > > > > In the Navamasha and Dashamsha Venus is involved in a > > > Parivartana yoga with Mercury (Venus in Virgo, and Mercury in Taurus). > In > > > the Navamasha the exchange takes place between the 2nd and 10th houses > and > > > in the Dashamsha the exchange is between 9th and 10th house. The > Dashamsha > > > also has Saturn in the Ascendant in a Sasha Yoga (another MahaPurush > Yoga). > > > > As Sanjayji pointed it is Akin to Mahapurusha.Neecha venus in > > navamsa will apart > > > > from affliction from mars in rashi spoil the rajayoga given by > > venus. It might > > create > > troubles in finance/marriage. Parivarthana bringsfocus to the > > concerned areas. > > In > > dasamsa,parivartana is good. > > > > > > > I am by no stretch of imagination a MahaPurush! So what has "spoiled" > this > > > MahaPurush Yogas? Mars? The only aspect to the 9th in the Rashi chart > is > > > from Jupiter in Virgo in the Ascendant. > > > > > > Sanjayji, I know we have discussed the Parivartana + Debilitation in > the > > > 10th in the past and I hope your predictions come true so that is not > what I > > > am trying to understand or repeat. However here I am trying to > understand > > > the dynamics of MahaPurush yogas vis-a-vis the Varga charts. Does the > > > debilitation in the Varga chart ruin the promise of a MahaPurush Yoga > in > the > > > Rashi chart? If the planet in the MahaPurush Yoga is involved in > Parivartana > > > in the Varga charts what effect does it have on the MahaPurush Yogas in > the > > > Rashi chart? > > > > Dear Prakash, It is not mahapurusha and that should be clear at > > the first step > > I am hoping that Sanjayji will suggest some guidence through > > remedial measures > > to help your venus out, to fulfil the promise in the rashi chart. > > Warm regards, > > Zoran > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 1999 Report Share Posted October 1, 1999 JAYA JAGANNATH Dear Sunil, I don't have the time to make the chart. Check the D-10 Dasamsa and see the connection of Venus with the 8th or 3rd house. Please confirm. Hare Krishna Sanjay Rath - <jain_sunil27 <sjvc > Friday, October 01, 1999 2:10 PM [sjvc] Re: [vedic astrology] Mahapurusha yogas > Namaste All, > > We has very lively and thought provoking discussion on Panch Mahapurush > yoga on this board. Is kendradhipatya dosa has any adverse effect on > this yoga ? I have a chart with a mahapurush yoga caused by Venus and > running present vimshottari dasa of Venus. This period & yoga has not > proved good the native. In fact, he left his job and doing nothing. Why? > > Details are > > DoB: Oct 4, 1960 > ToB: 19:00:00 hours > PoB: Lat 25N40, Long 77E44 > > Regards > > Sunil Kumar > > > > > > "prakash desai" <desaip- wrote: > original article:sjvc/?start=530 > > > > Sanjayji, > > > > OM! > > > > Thanks for your prompt attention. Your memory serves you correctly > about us > > waiting for Mercury period (five years for Vimshottari Dasha, > currently > > running Gemini / Gemini - I think!). > > > > However what I was trying to understand in my feeble mind is the > > relationship between a potentially very beneficial Yoga in the Rashi > chart > > and and that same planet involved in Parivartana yoga, Sasha Yoga, > and > > debilitation. How does one go about analyzing (I want to learn the > process > > with the interpretation as a confirming result - the icing on the > cake) the > > dynamics of Rashi + Navamhsa + Dashamsha to get the "whole" picture > where > > the same planets and houses are involved?! > > > > I hope I have been able to communicate what I am trying to learn! > > > > OM! > > Prakash > > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > > "Sanjay Rath" <srath > > "Sanjay Rath" <srath > > <vedic astrology >, "Prakash Desai" <pdesai > > CC: "SJVC Astrology Class" <varahamihira >, "SJVC" > > <sjvc >, "GJList" <gjlist > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Mahapurusha yogas > > Tue, 14 Sep 1999 18:05:40 +0530 > > > > JAYA JAGANNATH > > Dear Prakashji, > > I thought we were waiting for your Mercury period. Please > confirm as I > > see many charts and details of each are hard to remember. > > secondly, the particular division being considered is important. > In > > D-10, as far as finances are considered, debility is good, very good. > > Best Wishes, > > Sanjay Rath > > - > > Zoran Radosavljevic <satya > > Prakash Desai <pdesai > > Cc: Vedic-Astrology (AT) Egroups (DOT) Com <vedic astrology >; SJVC > > Astrology Class <varahamihira >; SJVC <sjvc >; > GJList > > <gjlist > > Tuesday, September 14, 1999 8:35 AM > > [vedic astrology] Re: Mahapurusha yogas > > > > > > > Namaste Prakash, > > > > > > > I have a related question about these yogas. In my horoscope in > the > > rashi > > > > chart I have Venus in the 9th in Taurus conjunct with Mars > creating a > > > > Malavya Yoga (does Mars spoil it? I think so but maybe someone > can > > interpret > > > > it for us). > > > > > > It is not mahapurusha yoga, Mahapurusha is created by planet > > > being in > > > exaltaion,mooltrikon > > > and swakshetra in kendra(quadrant) houses,not trines as some > > > suggest. > > > > > > > In the Navamasha and Dashamsha Venus is involved in a > > > > Parivartana yoga with Mercury (Venus in Virgo, and Mercury in > Taurus). > > In > > > > the Navamasha the exchange takes place between the 2nd and 10th > houses > > and > > > > in the Dashamsha the exchange is between 9th and 10th house. The > > Dashamsha > > > > also has Saturn in the Ascendant in a Sasha Yoga (another > MahaPurush > > Yoga). > > > > > > As Sanjayji pointed it is Akin to Mahapurusha.Neecha venus in > > > navamsa will apart > > > > > > from affliction from mars in rashi spoil the rajayoga given by > > > venus. It might > > > create > > > troubles in finance/marriage. Parivarthana bringsfocus to the > > > concerned areas. > > > In > > > dasamsa,parivartana is good. > > > > > > > > > > I am by no stretch of imagination a MahaPurush! So what has > "spoiled" > > this > > > > MahaPurush Yogas? Mars? The only aspect to the 9th in the Rashi > chart > > is > > > > from Jupiter in Virgo in the Ascendant. > > > > > > > > Sanjayji, I know we have discussed the Parivartana + > Debilitation in > > the > > > > 10th in the past and I hope your predictions come true so that > is not > > what I > > > > am trying to understand or repeat. However here I am trying to > > understand > > > > the dynamics of MahaPurush yogas vis-a-vis the Varga charts. > Does the > > > > debilitation in the Varga chart ruin the promise of a MahaPurush > Yoga > > in > > the > > > > Rashi chart? If the planet in the MahaPurush Yoga is involved in > > Parivartana > > > > in the Varga charts what effect does it have on the MahaPurush > Yogas in > > the > > > > Rashi chart? > > > > > > Dear Prakash, It is not mahapurusha and that should be clear at > > > the first step > > > I am hoping that Sanjayji will suggest some guidence through > > > remedial measures > > > to help your venus out, to fulfil the promise in the rashi chart. > > > Warm regards, > > > Zoran > > > > > > ------ > > eGroups.com home: sjvc > - Simplifying group communications > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 1999 Report Share Posted October 3, 1999 Dear Sanjayji Namaste, Thanks for your prompt reply. Chart details are as follows: Rasi: Aries: Lagna; Gemini:Mars; Leo: Rahu; Virgo: Sun; Libra: Venus and Mercury; Sagittarius: Jupiter and Saturn; Aquarius: Ketu; Pisces: Moon. Navamsa: Gemini: Lagna and Sun; Virgo: Saturn; Libra: Rahu; Scorpio: Moon; Caprcorn: Mercury and Mars; Aquarius: Venus; Aries: Ketu; Taurus: Jupiter. Dasamsa (D-10) Gemini: Lagna and Saturn; Leo: Rahu; Libra: Mars; Scorpio: Sun; Caprcorn: Mercury & Jupiter; Aquarius: Ketu; Pisces:Venus and Moon Following could be noticed from above: D-10 has powerful Mahapurush yoga caused by exalted venus from lagna as well as from Moon. Venus is aspected by 8 and 9th lord Saturn. This should have given good results of the yoga in Venus Dasa as far as career is concerned. Venus is with 3rd and 6th lord Mercury in rasi chart also venus being natural benefic could attract Kendradhiptya dosa for Aries native. Could these result in such a situation? Sri Narashimha Rao ji has indicated that best Dasa which could be applied in such situations is Moola Dasa. Presenetly, native is running Moon Dasa and Ketu antara. Regards Sunil. >"Sanjay Rath" <varahamihira >sjvc ><sjvc > >[sjvc] Re: [vedic astrology] Mahapurusha yogas >Sat, 2 Oct 1999 00:26:25 +0530 > >JAYA JAGANNATH >Dear Sunil, > I don't have the time to make the chart. Check the D-10 Dasamsa and >see >the connection of Venus with the 8th or 3rd house. Please confirm. >Hare Krishna >Sanjay Rath >- ><jain_sunil27 ><sjvc > >Friday, October 01, 1999 2:10 PM >[sjvc] Re: [vedic astrology] Mahapurusha yogas > > > > Namaste All, > > > > We has very lively and thought provoking discussion on Panch Mahapurush > > yoga on this board. Is kendradhipatya dosa has any adverse effect on > > this yoga ? I have a chart with a mahapurush yoga caused by Venus and > > running present vimshottari dasa of Venus. This period & yoga has not > > proved good the native. In fact, he left his job and doing nothing. Why? > > > > Details are > > > > DoB: Oct 4, 1960 > > ToB: 19:00:00 hours > > PoB: Lat 25N40, Long 77E44 > > > > Regards > > > > Sunil Kumar > > > > > > > > > > > > "prakash desai" <desaip- wrote: > > original article:sjvc/?start=530 > > > > > > Sanjayji, > > > > > > OM! > > > > > > Thanks for your prompt attention. Your memory serves you correctly > > about us > > > waiting for Mercury period (five years for Vimshottari Dasha, > > currently > > > running Gemini / Gemini - I think!). > > > > > > However what I was trying to understand in my feeble mind is the > > > relationship between a potentially very beneficial Yoga in the Rashi > > chart > > > and and that same planet involved in Parivartana yoga, Sasha Yoga, > > and > > > debilitation. How does one go about analyzing (I want to learn the > > process > > > with the interpretation as a confirming result - the icing on the > > cake) the > > > dynamics of Rashi + Navamhsa + Dashamsha to get the "whole" picture > > where > > > the same planets and houses are involved?! > > > > > > I hope I have been able to communicate what I am trying to learn! > > > > > > OM! > > > Prakash > > > > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > > > "Sanjay Rath" <srath > > > "Sanjay Rath" <srath > > > <vedic astrology >, "Prakash Desai" <pdesai > > > CC: "SJVC Astrology Class" <varahamihira >, "SJVC" > > > <sjvc >, "GJList" <gjlist > > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Mahapurusha yogas > > > Tue, 14 Sep 1999 18:05:40 +0530 > > > > > > JAYA JAGANNATH > > > Dear Prakashji, > > > I thought we were waiting for your Mercury period. Please > > confirm as I > > > see many charts and details of each are hard to remember. > > > secondly, the particular division being considered is important. > > In > > > D-10, as far as finances are considered, debility is good, very good. > > > Best Wishes, > > > Sanjay Rath > > > - > > > Zoran Radosavljevic <satya > > > Prakash Desai <pdesai > > > Cc: Vedic-Astrology (AT) Egroups (DOT) Com <vedic astrology >; SJVC > > > Astrology Class <varahamihira >; SJVC <sjvc >; > > GJList > > > <gjlist > > > Tuesday, September 14, 1999 8:35 AM > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Mahapurusha yogas > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Prakash, > > > > > > > > > I have a related question about these yogas. In my horoscope in > > the > > > rashi > > > > > chart I have Venus in the 9th in Taurus conjunct with Mars > > creating a > > > > > Malavya Yoga (does Mars spoil it? I think so but maybe someone > > can > > > interpret > > > > > it for us). > > > > > > > > It is not mahapurusha yoga, Mahapurusha is created by planet > > > > being in > > > > exaltaion,mooltrikon > > > > and swakshetra in kendra(quadrant) houses,not trines as some > > > > suggest. > > > > > > > > > In the Navamasha and Dashamsha Venus is involved in a > > > > > Parivartana yoga with Mercury (Venus in Virgo, and Mercury in > > Taurus). > > > In > > > > > the Navamasha the exchange takes place between the 2nd and 10th > > houses > > > and > > > > > in the Dashamsha the exchange is between 9th and 10th house. The > > > Dashamsha > > > > > also has Saturn in the Ascendant in a Sasha Yoga (another > > MahaPurush > > > Yoga). > > > > > > > > As Sanjayji pointed it is Akin to Mahapurusha.Neecha venus in > > > > navamsa will apart > > > > > > > > from affliction from mars in rashi spoil the rajayoga given by > > > > venus. It might > > > > create > > > > troubles in finance/marriage. Parivarthana bringsfocus to the > > > > concerned areas. > > > > In > > > > dasamsa,parivartana is good. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am by no stretch of imagination a MahaPurush! So what has > > "spoiled" > > > this > > > > > MahaPurush Yogas? Mars? The only aspect to the 9th in the Rashi > > chart > > > is > > > > > from Jupiter in Virgo in the Ascendant. > > > > > > > > > > Sanjayji, I know we have discussed the Parivartana + > > Debilitation in > > > the > > > > > 10th in the past and I hope your predictions come true so that > > is not > > > what I > > > > > am trying to understand or repeat. However here I am trying to > > > understand > > > > > the dynamics of MahaPurush yogas vis-a-vis the Varga charts. > > Does the > > > > > debilitation in the Varga chart ruin the promise of a MahaPurush > > Yoga > > > in > > > the > > > > > Rashi chart? If the planet in the MahaPurush Yoga is involved in > > > Parivartana > > > > > in the Varga charts what effect does it have on the MahaPurush > > Yogas in > > > the > > > > > Rashi chart? > > > > > > > > Dear Prakash, It is not mahapurusha and that should be clear at > > > > the first step > > > > I am hoping that Sanjayji will suggest some guidence through > > > > remedial measures > > > > to help your venus out, to fulfil the promise in the rashi chart. > > > > Warm regards, > > > > Zoran > > > > > > > > > > ------ > > > > eGroups.com home: sjvc > > - Simplifying group communications > > > > > > > > > > >------ > >eGroups.com home: sjvc > - Simplifying group communications > > > > ____ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 1999 Report Share Posted October 7, 1999 JAYA JAGANNATH Dear Sunil, Check the Lagna degrees. I think the Dasamsa Lagna should be corrected to Cancer. The native is going to be spiritual and the money giving planets are saturn and jupiter. this can indicate making money from professions related to these planets like traditional work, Jyotish related stuff etc. VENUS IS GOING TO GIVE SOME INITIAL TROUBLES, BUT THEN IT WILL ALSO OPEN THE DOORS OF FORTUNE WHEN THE NATIVE PLANS TO DO SOME INDEPENDANT WORK. Hare Krishna Sanjay Rath - Sunil Jain <jain_sunil27 <sjvc > Monday, October 04, 1999 2:44 PM [sjvc] Re: [vedic astrology] Mahapurusha yogas > Dear Sanjayji > > Namaste, > > Thanks for your prompt reply. Chart details are as follows: > > Rasi: > > Aries: Lagna; Gemini:Mars; Leo: Rahu; Virgo: Sun; Libra: Venus and Mercury; > Sagittarius: Jupiter and Saturn; Aquarius: Ketu; Pisces: Moon. > > Navamsa: > > Gemini: Lagna and Sun; Virgo: Saturn; Libra: Rahu; Scorpio: Moon; Caprcorn: > Mercury and Mars; Aquarius: Venus; Aries: Ketu; Taurus: Jupiter. > > Dasamsa (D-10) > > Gemini: Lagna and Saturn; Leo: Rahu; Libra: Mars; Scorpio: Sun; Caprcorn: > Mercury & Jupiter; Aquarius: Ketu; Pisces:Venus and Moon > > Following could be noticed from above: > > D-10 has powerful Mahapurush yoga caused by exalted venus from lagna as well > as from Moon. Venus is aspected by 8 and 9th lord Saturn. This should have > given good results of the yoga in Venus Dasa as far as career is concerned. > > Venus is with 3rd and 6th lord Mercury in rasi chart also venus being > natural benefic could attract Kendradhiptya dosa for Aries native. Could > these result in such a situation? > > Sri Narashimha Rao ji has indicated that best Dasa which could be applied in > such situations is Moola Dasa. Presenetly, native is running Moon Dasa and > Ketu antara. > > Regards > > Sunil. > > >"Sanjay Rath" <varahamihira > >sjvc > ><sjvc > > >[sjvc] Re: [vedic astrology] Mahapurusha yogas > >Sat, 2 Oct 1999 00:26:25 +0530 > > > >JAYA JAGANNATH > >Dear Sunil, > > I don't have the time to make the chart. Check the D-10 Dasamsa and > >see > >the connection of Venus with the 8th or 3rd house. Please confirm. > >Hare Krishna > >Sanjay Rath > >- > ><jain_sunil27 > ><sjvc > > >Friday, October 01, 1999 2:10 PM > >[sjvc] Re: [vedic astrology] Mahapurusha yogas > > > > > > > Namaste All, > > > > > > We has very lively and thought provoking discussion on Panch Mahapurush > > > yoga on this board. Is kendradhipatya dosa has any adverse effect on > > > this yoga ? I have a chart with a mahapurush yoga caused by Venus and > > > running present vimshottari dasa of Venus. This period & yoga has not > > > proved good the native. In fact, he left his job and doing nothing. Why? > > > > > > Details are > > > > > > DoB: Oct 4, 1960 > > > ToB: 19:00:00 hours > > > PoB: Lat 25N40, Long 77E44 > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Sunil Kumar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "prakash desai" <desaip- wrote: > > > original article:sjvc/?start=530 > > > > > > > > Sanjayji, > > > > > > > > OM! > > > > > > > > Thanks for your prompt attention. Your memory serves you correctly > > > about us > > > > waiting for Mercury period (five years for Vimshottari Dasha, > > > currently > > > > running Gemini / Gemini - I think!). > > > > > > > > However what I was trying to understand in my feeble mind is the > > > > relationship between a potentially very beneficial Yoga in the Rashi > > > chart > > > > and and that same planet involved in Parivartana yoga, Sasha Yoga, > > > and > > > > debilitation. How does one go about analyzing (I want to learn the > > > process > > > > with the interpretation as a confirming result - the icing on the > > > cake) the > > > > dynamics of Rashi + Navamhsa + Dashamsha to get the "whole" picture > > > where > > > > the same planets and houses are involved?! > > > > > > > > I hope I have been able to communicate what I am trying to learn! > > > > > > > > OM! > > > > Prakash > > > > > > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > > > > "Sanjay Rath" <srath > > > > "Sanjay Rath" <srath > > > > <vedic astrology >, "Prakash Desai" <pdesai > > > > CC: "SJVC Astrology Class" <varahamihira >, "SJVC" > > > > <sjvc >, "GJList" <gjlist > > > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Mahapurusha yogas > > > > Tue, 14 Sep 1999 18:05:40 +0530 > > > > > > > > JAYA JAGANNATH > > > > Dear Prakashji, > > > > I thought we were waiting for your Mercury period. Please > > > confirm as I > > > > see many charts and details of each are hard to remember. > > > > secondly, the particular division being considered is important. > > > In > > > > D-10, as far as finances are considered, debility is good, very good. > > > > Best Wishes, > > > > Sanjay Rath > > > > - > > > > Zoran Radosavljevic <satya > > > > Prakash Desai <pdesai > > > > Cc: Vedic-Astrology (AT) Egroups (DOT) Com <vedic astrology >; SJVC > > > > Astrology Class <varahamihira >; SJVC <sjvc >; > > > GJList > > > > <gjlist > > > > Tuesday, September 14, 1999 8:35 AM > > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Mahapurusha yogas > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Prakash, > > > > > > > > > > > I have a related question about these yogas. In my horoscope in > > > the > > > > rashi > > > > > > chart I have Venus in the 9th in Taurus conjunct with Mars > > > creating a > > > > > > Malavya Yoga (does Mars spoil it? I think so but maybe someone > > > can > > > > interpret > > > > > > it for us). > > > > > > > > > > It is not mahapurusha yoga, Mahapurusha is created by planet > > > > > being in > > > > > exaltaion,mooltrikon > > > > > and swakshetra in kendra(quadrant) houses,not trines as some > > > > > suggest. > > > > > > > > > > > In the Navamasha and Dashamsha Venus is involved in a > > > > > > Parivartana yoga with Mercury (Venus in Virgo, and Mercury in > > > Taurus). > > > > In > > > > > > the Navamasha the exchange takes place between the 2nd and 10th > > > houses > > > > and > > > > > > in the Dashamsha the exchange is between 9th and 10th house. The > > > > Dashamsha > > > > > > also has Saturn in the Ascendant in a Sasha Yoga (another > > > MahaPurush > > > > Yoga). > > > > > > > > > > As Sanjayji pointed it is Akin to Mahapurusha.Neecha venus in > > > > > navamsa will apart > > > > > > > > > > from affliction from mars in rashi spoil the rajayoga given by > > > > > venus. It might > > > > > create > > > > > troubles in finance/marriage. Parivarthana bringsfocus to the > > > > > concerned areas. > > > > > In > > > > > dasamsa,parivartana is good. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am by no stretch of imagination a MahaPurush! So what has > > > "spoiled" > > > > this > > > > > > MahaPurush Yogas? Mars? The only aspect to the 9th in the Rashi > > > chart > > > > is > > > > > > from Jupiter in Virgo in the Ascendant. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sanjayji, I know we have discussed the Parivartana + > > > Debilitation in > > > > the > > > > > > 10th in the past and I hope your predictions come true so that > > > is not > > > > what I > > > > > > am trying to understand or repeat. However here I am trying to > > > > understand > > > > > > the dynamics of MahaPurush yogas vis-a-vis the Varga charts. > > > Does the > > > > > > debilitation in the Varga chart ruin the promise of a MahaPurush > > > Yoga > > > > in > > > > the > > > > > > Rashi chart? If the planet in the MahaPurush Yoga is involved in > > > > Parivartana > > > > > > in the Varga charts what effect does it have on the MahaPurush > > > Yogas in > > > > the > > > > > > Rashi chart? > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prakash, It is not mahapurusha and that should be clear at > > > > > the first step > > > > > I am hoping that Sanjayji will suggest some guidence through > > > > > remedial measures > > > > > to help your venus out, to fulfil the promise in the rashi chart. > > > > > Warm regards, > > > > > Zoran > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------ > > > > > > eGroups.com home: sjvc > > > - Simplifying group communications > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >------ > > > >eGroups.com home: sjvc > > - Simplifying group communications > > > > > > > > > > ____ > > ------ > > eGroups.com home: sjvc > - Simplifying group communications > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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