RE:Ganesha and Rg Veda Hymm to HIM

[Guest guest]

JAYA JAYA SRI JAGANNATHA

Dear FRANK,

PRAY WHOSE TRANSLATION IS THIS?! The interpretation of JYESTHARAJAM

seems to be very poor. "Eldest Prince" is a literal translation of Jyestha

and Rajam. An even more literal translation would be "Eldest King"!! I think

you should read the translation of Sri Dayanand Saraswati or the works of

Aurobindo. Wilson is definitely very poor like a school student's

understanding of Wordsworth's poetry

"Oft when on my couch I lie

in vacant or in pensive mood,

they flash upon that inward eye

which is the bliss of solitude.

And then my heart with pleasure fills

and dances with the Daffodils".

 

(I hope I got that line correctly after all these years).

Pranaam and I hope I have been able to touch that tiny spark called Atma

that will make your great soul re-read the most Holy Rig Veda again.

Thanks

Sanjay Rath

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fls <fschmidt

Sanjay Rath <srath; Patrice Curry <patrice.curry;

SJVC <sjvc >; GJLIST <gjlist

Monday, August 30, 1999 12:21 AM

RE:Ganesha and Rg Veda Hymm to HIM

 

 

> Om Namaste Ganapataye...

> for the interpretation "GANANAAM TWA GANAPATIM HAVAMAHEY KAVIM

> KAVINAMUPAVASRAVASTAMUM; JYESTHARAJAM BRAHMANAAM

> BRAHMANASPATA AA NAH SRUNAVANNUTIBHIH SIDDA SADANAM"

> it says:

> We invoke Thee, Chief amongst all assemblages Lord of all, Of wise ones,

the

> wisest, incomparable in name and fame, Eldest prince, prime principle of

> all prayers,

> Hear us Lord, pray be seated bless us in our abode.

> Rig Veda 2.23.1

>

>

> Santi,

> Frank

> * fschmidt

>

>

>

>

> gjlist-request

> [gjlist-request]On Behalf Of Sanjay

> Rath

> Sunday, August 29, 1999 1:08 AM

> Patrice Curry; SJVC; GJLIST

> Re: Sanjay - Re: How can I read the 30th part ?

>

>

> JAYA JAYA SRI JAGANNATHA

> Dear Patrice,

> Mahesh Yogi Maharaj is among the greatest in Dhyana Yoga and Dharana.

At

> least to my knowledge there are none who can surpass him in this. You have

> been very fortunate to be tutored by such a divine soul. After interacting

> over the internet and with others who are not originally from India I

> realise that we Indians take for granted many things to be to be known to

> all. Worship of Ganeshji is one such thing. Even in our normal language,

> when something has been started we say "Jai Ganesh Kar diya" or " I have

> done Jai Ganesh" which means that we have started the particular work.

> The significance of the worship of Ganapati is clearly stated in the

Rig

> Veda Hymn " GANANAAM TWA GANAPATIM HAVAMAHEY KAVIM

KAVINAMUPAVASRAVASTAMUM;

> JYESTHARAJAM BRAHMANAAM BRAHMANASPATA AA NAH SRUNAVANNUTIBHIH SIDDA

SADANAM.

> "

> I have given the translation to this in my book "Maharishi Jaimini's

> Upadesa Sutra ". It means that a mantra should be started with OM (to

remove

> all dosha (errors) in it) and also implies the worship of Sri ganeshji

> before starting any other Pooja/ Mantra etc.

> You can simply repeat " OM SRI GANESAYA NAMAH" 21 times before

starting

> other prayers. This is most auspicious.

> Best Wishes,

> Sanjay

> -

> Patrice Curry <patrice.curry

> Sanjay Rath <srath; SJVC <sjvc >; GJLIST

> <gjlist

> Sunday, August 29, 1999 1:05 AM

> Sanjay - Re: How can I read the 30th part ?

>

>

> > Dear Sanjay,

> >

> > >>>1. Worshipping Ganeshji is important so that the negative effect of

> Sani

> > is

> > not felt in the Pooja and the results are obtained. What Venus and Moon

> are

> > you chanting? Is this Graha mantra (Vedic) or Tantrik?<<<

> >

> > The mantras I am chanting are Graha mantra (Vedic). I don't know of

> Tantrik

> > mantras. These were given to me by James Braha following a reading.

They

> > are also in his book, "Astro Logos, Revelations of a Hindu Astrologer."

> > With this I was not told anything about worshipping Ganeshji.

> >

> > I have gone to your web site in the past couple of days, Sanjay, and did

> see

> > that you recommend "Mantras, Words of Power", by Swami Sivananda Radha.

I

> > have this book and am half way through it having picked it up about a

week

> > ago along with another, "Healing Mantras", by Thomas Ashley-Farrand

which

> I

> > have now read. It's difficult to get direct answers, especially answers

> one

> > has confidence in, without contact with a Guru.

> >

> > My personal history and experience with mantras is with Maharishi Mahesh

> > Yogi. It has been a great amount of time since I've seen him. Again,

at

> > that time, there was no discussion of worshipping Ganeshji.

> >

> > Many, many great thanks....

> >

> > Best Regards,

> > Patrice

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Om Namaste Ganapataye...

for the interpretation "GANANAAM TWA GANAPATIM HAVAMAHEY KAVIM

KAVINAMUPAVASRAVASTAMUM; JYESTHARAJAM BRAHMANAAM

BRAHMANASPATA AA NAH SRUNAVANNUTIBHIH SIDDA SADANAM"

it says:

We invoke Thee, Chief amongst all assemblages Lord of all, Of wise ones, the

wisest, incomparable in name and fame, Eldest prince, prime principle of

all prayers,

Hear us Lord, pray be seated bless us in our abode.

Rig Veda 2.23.1

 

 

Santi,

Frank

* fschmidt

 

 

 

 

gjlist-request

[gjlist-request]On Behalf Of Sanjay

Rath

Sunday, August 29, 1999 1:08 AM

Patrice Curry; SJVC; GJLIST

Re: Sanjay - Re: How can I read the 30th part ?

 

 

JAYA JAYA SRI JAGANNATHA

Dear Patrice,

Mahesh Yogi Maharaj is among the greatest in Dhyana Yoga and Dharana. At

least to my knowledge there are none who can surpass him in this. You have

been very fortunate to be tutored by such a divine soul. After interacting

over the internet and with others who are not originally from India I

realise that we Indians take for granted many things to be to be known to

all. Worship of Ganeshji is one such thing. Even in our normal language,

when something has been started we say "Jai Ganesh Kar diya" or " I have

done Jai Ganesh" which means that we have started the particular work.

The significance of the worship of Ganapati is clearly stated in the Rig

Veda Hymn " GANANAAM TWA GANAPATIM HAVAMAHEY KAVIM KAVINAMUPAVASRAVASTAMUM;

JYESTHARAJAM BRAHMANAAM BRAHMANASPATA AA NAH SRUNAVANNUTIBHIH SIDDA SADANAM.

"

I have given the translation to this in my book "Maharishi Jaimini's

Upadesa Sutra ". It means that a mantra should be started with OM (to remove

all dosha (errors) in it) and also implies the worship of Sri ganeshji

before starting any other Pooja/ Mantra etc.

You can simply repeat " OM SRI GANESAYA NAMAH" 21 times before starting

other prayers. This is most auspicious.

Best Wishes,

Sanjay

-

Patrice Curry <patrice.curry

Sanjay Rath <srath; SJVC <sjvc >; GJLIST

<gjlist

Sunday, August 29, 1999 1:05 AM

Sanjay - Re: How can I read the 30th part ?

 

 

> Dear Sanjay,

>

> >>>1. Worshipping Ganeshji is important so that the negative effect of

Sani

> is

> not felt in the Pooja and the results are obtained. What Venus and Moon

are

> you chanting? Is this Graha mantra (Vedic) or Tantrik?<<<

>

> The mantras I am chanting are Graha mantra (Vedic). I don't know of

Tantrik

> mantras. These were given to me by James Braha following a reading. They

> are also in his book, "Astro Logos, Revelations of a Hindu Astrologer."

> With this I was not told anything about worshipping Ganeshji.

>

> I have gone to your web site in the past couple of days, Sanjay, and did

see

> that you recommend "Mantras, Words of Power", by Swami Sivananda Radha. I

> have this book and am half way through it having picked it up about a week

> ago along with another, "Healing Mantras", by Thomas Ashley-Farrand which

I

> have now read. It's difficult to get direct answers, especially answers

one

> has confidence in, without contact with a Guru.

>

> My personal history and experience with mantras is with Maharishi Mahesh

> Yogi. It has been a great amount of time since I've seen him. Again, at

> that time, there was no discussion of worshipping Ganeshji.

>

> Many, many great thanks....

>

> Best Regards,

> Patrice

>

>