How can I read the 30th part ?

[Guest guest]

JAYA JAYA SRI JAGANNATHA

Dear Doriano,

Treat this like any other chart. In spiritualism we are taught of a "

SHADOW SELF" called PAPA_PURUSHA which is a reflection of our own self, but

the darker side which includes all the negative things we have done for ages

and many births. This is the trimsamsa..the shadowy world of our self.

Hence, the Sun and Moon do not own any trimsamsa as they have light.

Second thing is to study this chart for all the bad things we have done

for which we deserve to be punished or taught lessons. The 12th rules

hospitals and is the 5th (Mantra) from the 8th (Diseases). Hence the 12th

house shows the way to get out of diseases and other such bad karma. It is

the future (5th) of the 8th house. A Saturn placed in such a place is not

good as it delays the recovery from diseases, makes the effect of the mantra

nil due to mistakes or "NOT WORSHIPPING GANESHJI" before starting a mantra

can render it useless unless Guru is very strong. In this manner study the

houses with focus on the 8th house (ROGA: Diseases & RINA Debts) and the 6th

house (SHAD RIPU: Six kinds of weaknesses). In this manner the houses

should be studied.

The 9th house (Dharma) from the 8th house is the 4th house. Thus,

happiness and laughter (ruled by the 4th house) are the best natural

medicine to get out of the cycle of disease and debt. A clen heart is the

key to happiness & laughter. Venus (fulfilment of desires) gives happiness &

Mercury gives laughter. Moon is the natural significator for the 4th house

and becomes the Controlling planet for good health and freedom from

diseases. In this manner the planets should be studied.

Best Regards,

Sanjay Rath

Sri Jagannath Vedic Center

152B Pocket C Mayur Vihar Phase-2, Delhi 110091

Tel:+91-11-2489531;e-mail: srath

Webpage: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Crete/9544/

 

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Doriano Benaglia <doriano

<gjlist

Sunday, August 22, 1999 1:34 AM

How can I read the 30th part ?

 

 

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| Om Namah Shivaye

|

| Dear All

|

| Every day I'm continuously surprised ,reading the arguments on this ML.

What

| great knowledge coming directly from Supreme to Men in your words! I do

all

| my best to understand, but many times I admit I can't realize the meanings

| of some arguments. It's no so important to my eyes. The sensation of my

| limits pushes me to go further. Now for example I'm trying to study

| Goravani's program and I am considering the divisional charts.

| Can someone gently tell me, for example how can I read the 30 Part

| Trimshamsa, referring to the rasi Chart ?

| If I have well understood, this is the "Evils Chart" and here I see Saturn

| (that in my Rasi is in the tenth in Virgo) in the 12th in Pisces. This

| refers to illness ? Or indicates that for me Saturn is the (marraka

planet)

| due to the Lagna in Sagittarius ? I forward thank for everyone would spend

| his time responding...But i'm simply very glad

| of reading every day messages from fine people ,neither Saturn can really

| worry me, considering what Great Gift is life...

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| So be blessed All

| simply for living...

|

| Doriano

| from Italy

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|

[Guest guest]

Dear Patrice,

My answers are as under:-

1. Worshipping Ganeshji is important so that the negative effect of Sani is

not felt in the Pooja and the results are obtained. What Venus and Moon are

you chanting? Is this Graha mantra (Vedic) or Tantrik? If tantrik, I hope

you are doing the Nyasa etc. properly. Else, it is always better to stick to

the prayers of Maharishi Vedavyasa Deva. These are Satwik and no negative

results obtain.

Other answers are below:-

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Patrice Curry <patrice.curry

Sanjay Rath <srath

Thursday, August 26, 1999 8:28 AM

Re: How can I read the 30th part ?

 

 

| Dear Sanjay,

|

| You are so knowledgeable and giving in your spiritual and Jyotish wisdom,

I

| enjoy your writings and responses on the list very much and thank you for

| all your time. I thank you for all the devotion and study behind your

| knowledge and your time sharing on the list.

| S.RATH: THANK YOU.

| I am so new to the study of Jyotish, I will understand if my questions are

| so basic to you that I need more study before communicating and asking

| questions that make the best use of your time. I also appreciate the

| information you have shared regarding how to purchase your books and

| information about them.

|

| I keep reading your email regarding "How can I read the 30th part?".

Please

| forgive my ignorance in these questions.

|

| 1. >>A Saturn placed in such a place is not good as it delays the

recovery

| from diseases, makes the effect of the mantra nil due to mistakes or "NOT

| WORSHIPPING GANESHJI" before starting a mantra can render it useless

unless

| Guru is very strong.<<

|

| May I ask you: I have in the last few months begun chanting to both Venus

| and Moon. Is there something I am doing disrespectful that I'm not aware

of

| as I know nothing of "worshipping Ganeshji" before chanting?

|

| 2. >>Hence, the Sun and Moon do not own any trimsamsa as they have

light<<

|

| In my Trimsamsa, Moon is in 8th in Taurus, Sun is in 6th with Saturn in

| Pisces. In your statement above do you mean that I would disregard (which

I

| doubt this would be the case) the Sun and Moon in this chart or rather

| further in your post you state,

S.RATH: WHAT I MEANT WAS THAT THE SUN & MOON DO NOT OWN ANY TRIMSAMSA

DIVISIONS IN THE SIGNS. THUS, NO PLANET/LAGNA CAN BE IN LEO OR CANCER IN THE

D-30 CHART.

 

| "The 9th house (Dharma) from the 8th house is the 4th house. Thus,

| happiness and laughter (ruled by the 4th house) are the best natural

| medicine to get out of the cycle of disease and debt. A clen heart is the

| key to happiness & laughter. Venus (fulfilment of desires) gives happiness

&

| Mercury gives laughter. Moon is the natural significator for the 4th

house

| and becomes the Controlling planet for good health and freedom from

| diseases. In this manner the planets should be studied."

|

| So, would I read planets in this respect in this Trimsamsa chart,

including

| the Sun and Moon as you state above?

S.RATH: OBVIOUSLY, YOU HAVE LIBRA LAGNA IN TRIMSAMSA AND THE POSITION OF THE

MOON IN THE 8TH SHOWS THE SOURCE OF THE DISEASES. SINCE THE MOON IS EXALTED,

IT HAS A VERY POSITIVE INFLUENCE ON THE CHART. STILL THE JALA TATWA IS

AFFLICTED. DISEASES ETC COME DURING THE PERIOD OF THE MOON. THE SIGN/ HOUSE

OCCUPIED BY THE MOON IN THE RASI CHART WILL SHOW THE SPECIFIC AREA OF THE

DISEASE/ HEALTH AFFLICTION. YES, LAUGHTER IS STILL THE BEST MEDICINE.

THE SUN IN THE SIXTH IS THE SOURCE OF WEAKNESSES THAT LEAD TO THE

DISEASES. WITH SATURN IT COULD INDICATE THINGS LIKE LATE RISING, INCORRECT

FOOD HABITS ETC. DURING ITS PERIODS. OVERWORK COUPLED WITH ALL THIS IS THE

CAUSE THIS IS A VERY GENERAL READING.

NOTE THAT THE SIXTH IS THE 11TH (GAINS) FOR THE 8TH HOUSE. HENCE, DISEASES &

DEBTS ARE "GAINED" DUE TO THIS HOUSE. CONTROL THE SIXTH AND YOU CAN CONTROL

THE 8TH AS WELL.

 

| 3. >>The 12th rules hospitals and is the 5th (Mantra) from the 8th

| (Diseases). Hence the 12th

| house shows the way to get out of diseases and other such bad karma. It is

| the future (5th) of the 8th house.<<

|

| Jupiter and Mars are in my 12th house in Virgo. So I would look to these

| planets to understand "the way to get out of diseases and other such bad

| karma"?

S.RATH: JUPITER IS GOOD. GOOD MEDICINE, BUT MARS WILL SHOW SURGERY OR SUCH

THINGS. THIS IS VERY GENERAL READING.

 

| Dear Sanjay, again, I recognize how basic these questions are in asking

for

| your time. These last three quotes from you above are clear in themselves

| and very well said. I am studying and am still very much at the level of

| just becoming familiar with the basics but wish to ask these questions to

| make a leap here in gaining a pristinely clear and deeper understanding of

| this and other readings. I wish to become very, very strong in the very

| basics and continue to study them over and over. My heart jumps with the

| potential of gaining ability in 'reading'.

|

| Also, may I ask is "JAYA JAYA JAGANNATHA" meaning JAYA - VICTORY,

| JAGANNATHA - LORD OF THE WORLD?

|

| In great appreciation and with humble thanks,

| Patrice

S.RATH: JAYA JAYA SRI JAGANNATHA

"JAYA" IS NOT ONLY VICTORY, BUT ALSO ONE OF THE MATRIKA'S (DIVINE MOTHERS OR

SHAKTI)

"SRI" IS CALLED RAMA BEEJAKSHAR AND IS ACTUALLY MASCULINE THOUGH MANY

CONSIDER IT FEMININE. LIKE IN INVITATION CARDS WE WRITE SRI & SRIMATI

REFERRING TO THE PERSON & WIFE.

"JAGANNATHA" REFERS TO THE FACT OF SRI KRISHNA BEING VISHNU

(SARVA-VYAPAKESWARA DEVATA) AND THE LORD OF ALL CREATION. (JAGAT-PATIM)

HENCE HE IS SATYA NARAYANA.

Best Regards,

Sanjay Rath

Sri Jagannath Vedic Center

152B Pocket C Mayur Vihar Phase-2, Delhi 110091

Tel:+91-11-2489531;e-mail: srath

Webpage: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Crete/9544/

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