Computational vs. Conceptual Mathematics

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Jaya Jagannath,

Dear Manoj,

I am only quoting the Maharishi's. I have never ever taught my own research

(although I have done a lot of it- You will be surprised to see my research

papers-not published- on Brighu etc.). Small machinery including watches etc is

ruled by Ketu whereas big machines are ruled by Rahu. Venus rules things of

beauty. Can you please tell us the source of your views?

Manoj, look for abilities in the Navamsa. Mercury is the learner and planets

influencing it give learning. Thus, the Sun influencing Mercury will, besides

other things gives "Atma-Vidya" or the knowledge concerning the soul. Hence the

ancients have given importance to this Budha-Aditya Yoga. Some consider this a

Rajyoga in the material sence, but this view is incorrect and it gives

spiritual knowledge (This is my research).

Best Regards,Sanjay Rath.

-

Manoj Pathak

srath (AT) bol (DOT) net.in

Cc: gjlist (AT) goravani (DOT) com

Monday, July 05, 1999 17:01 Rath

Re: Computational vs. Conceptual Mathematics

Namaskar,My dear Shri Sanjay Rathji,What I understand of mathematics is that it

the science which helps you in calculating things, whether a natal chart (part

of jyotisha) or otherwise. Therefore, I am not inclined to agree with you that

Ketu controls over computers. Ketu does rule over languages, and when one works

on computers, he is using an electronic language or the language of the logic,

which helps him to work on computers. The sophisticated, electronic machinery

is ruled by Venus.Therefore my request is to know whether I should look for

mercury or ketu in knowing one's mathematical ability. I consider myself quite

conversant in mathematics and i can compute mentally, but ketu in my case has

no relation with the houses of education.regards,Manoj>"Sanjay Rath"

<srath (AT) bol (DOT) net.in>>"Sanjay Rath" <srath (AT) bol (DOT) net.in>>"Manoj

Pathak" <manojpathak (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>, <gjlist (AT) goravani (DOT) com>>Re:

Computational vs. Conceptual Mathematics>Sat, 3 Jul 1999 23:49:31

+0530>>Jaya Jagannath>Dear Manoj,> Here we are talking of one aspect of

Jyotisha called Ganitha or the >Mathematical part. If the calculations are

wrong, then the readings will >also go wrong. Thus, Ketu helps us with the

correct calculations and >Computers are ruled by Ketu as they compute and

prepare the charts for us.> Analysis and intuition is another thing

altogether which is the domain >of the ones with foresight, especially Jupiter.

Without a strong Jupiter, >the predictive aspect is not going to work.>Hare

Guru>Sanjay Rath> -> Manoj Pathak> To:

gjlist (AT) goravani (DOT) com> Friday, July 02, 1999 18:05 Rath> Re:

Computational vs. Conceptual Mathematics>>> Namaskar,>> If I remember

correctly, sometime back, Sanjay you had mentioned in one >of> your posts

that without the blessings of Jupiter and Rahu, one cannot >become>

proficient in astrology.>> regards,>> Manoj>>> >"Sanjay Rath"

<srath (AT) bol (DOT) net.in>> >"Sanjay Rath" <srath (AT) bol (DOT) net.in>> >To:

"Barbara Pijan Lama" <b_pijan (AT) email (DOT) msn.com>, <gjlist (AT) goravani (DOT) com>>

>Re: Computational vs. Conceptual Mathematics> >Thu, 1 Jul

1999 19:43:56 +0530> >> >Jaya Jagannath> >Dear Barbara,> > Ketu is

a vital planet for Jyotish and , especially the >mathematical> >aspect. No

doubt that Sri Ganesh-ji is a natural favorite of all> >astrologers.> >Best

Regards,> >Sanjay Rath.> >> >-> >

Barbara Pijan Lama> >gjlist (AT) goravani (DOT) com> >Thursday, July 01,

1999 11:39 Rath> >Computational vs. Conceptual Mathematics> >>

>> >Namaste List members,> > Although I do not know a scriptural

reference for this >distinction, my> >own experience with mathematics as a

discipline reveals a huge >difference -> >experientially - between

computational mathematics and conceptual> >mathematics.> >

Computational mathematics in my view is what requires the patience >of> >Job,

that characteristic Shatabish diligence. For those of us not >blessed> >by a

steady Saturn, computational mathematics are the schoolroom kiss >of> >death.

Blessedly, in the first world at least, "school math" is mainly> >done>

>now by computing machines. (Praise Shani!)> > Now conceptual or

theoretical mathematics, is a completely new >world.> >Conceptual

mathematics is visual, textual, sensual, imaginative, and> >philosophical.

Essentially it's music, except it's utterly free of >ego.> >Conceptual

mathematicians may or may not be able to compute very well.> >Einstein's

computations were all done by graduate students. He could> >express only the

"big picture" mathematically - he was actually quite> >incompetent with the

justifying details.> > My own view, again with no known reference, is

that computational> >mathematics are governed by Saturn. Spacey,

out-of-this-world,> >transcendent,> >conceptual mathematics are Ketu. My

Ketu falls in Yuvati Bhava. My >two> >most intense relationships during

Ketu dasha were with a brilliant >young> >algebraic topologist and also a

philosopher of mathematics & language.> > All jyotishi have to be

conceptual mathematicians because we do so> >much> >spatial geometry -- we

are constantly visualizing cosmological >structures.> >That visualizing I

believe is our Ketu, which is the permanent >companion of> >our enhanced

psychic awareness, which is our Rahu. Good astrologers >need> >those nodes,

and they need them strong! But few of us are gifted like >our> >Raghu, to be

able to "accept the oppressive nature of the study" and >thus> >express

computational genius as well!> > Tashi delek,> > Barbara Pijan

Lama> >>>> ____> Get

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