Guest guest Posted March 27, 1999 Report Share Posted March 27, 1999 Jaya Jaya Jagannath Dear Frank, There is no doom. Sri Achyutu Dasa the direct disciple of Sri Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu has stated in a stanza..about India that "FROM 13OO AD TO 2000 AD INDIA SHALL SUFFER DASATWA OR BONDAGE. TOWARDS THE END, THIS WILL BEGIN TO BREAK AND FROM 2000 AD SATYA SANATANA WILL BE ESTABLISHED." Thus, when we are going to see a very glorious phase begining 2000 AD, I cannot agree with those predictions about Doom. Later Sri Achyutaya adds that this will be done by the strength or people of Baladeva (Sri Balaram, the elder brother of Bhagawan). Now, we can only speculate here. BRAHMA VIDYA: There seems to be some confusion about understanding of the Yuga cycles. This is so because of the lack of appretiation of the "Sankalpha" done at the begining of the prayers. The day of Brahma is called "Kalpha" from which the word "Sankalpha" is derived. Kalpha also means Lagna. Hence Brahma controls longevity. In the day there is "Leela" and in the Night, the universe is withdrawn and exists as a potentiality. This Kalpha is about 4320 Million years and 360 such Brahma days make a Brahma Year. Now, Brahma's life is for 100 such years and it is believed that Brahma is in His 51st Year. The Kalpha is divided into 14 Manvantaras of which we are in the 7th called Manu Vaivasvata. Each Manvantara is for 306,720,000 years with gaps between the manvantara's in any Kalpha. Each Manvantara is further subdivided into 71 Mahayuga (approx) as 1000 Mahayuga make one Kalpha. Each Mahayuga is further divided into four Yuga's called Krta (Four), Treta (Three), Dvapara (Two) and Kali (One) of lengths 4800, 3600, 2400 and 1200 "YEARS OF THE GODS". Here the years of the Gods refers to the Sun as Deva is derived from Diva (Light) and the Sun is also called Divakara. THIS IS WHERE THE ERROR CREEPS IN I.E. THE INTERPRETATION OF THE TERM "YEAR OF THE GODS". WHILE THIS IS GENERALLY ACCEPTED AS THE MOTION OF THE SUN IN ONE DAY, SOME HAVE EQUATED THIS TO ONE YEAR OF HUMAN LIFE. Thus, they misrepresent the periods as 4800, 3600, 2400 and 1200 human years instead. (Please recall my earlier posts in this regard on Manu Smriti. This is also the reason why I have been requesting the Software programmers to calculate the dasa-antar and other smaller periods correctly on the basis of the Actual solar transit of 360 Degrees with fluctuations in one year instead of interpolating on the figure of 365.25 days as a lot of approximation creeps in. Another blunder is to equate the year of the Gods blindly to 360 human years on the approximate basis of 1 Degree transit of the Sun per day when we know this to be 365.25 solar days. This is how another doubt of 360 days instead of 365.25 days per year has crept in.) START OF KALI: The dating of the Kali yuga is the vexed question. Tradition accepts this as 3102 BC, whereas others relying on the other factors give 900 BC or 600 BC etc. How do we resolve this? MY VIEWS/ WISDOM OF SRI ACHYUTA DASA: Not going into other considerations, the 60 Year cycle of Jupiter and Saturn is considered very significant. The Yuga of Kali of 1200 Years of the Gods can be sub-divided into four sub-periods of 480, 360, 240 and 120 years of the Gods. WE can again divide this into sub-sub-periods...and so on. Now, Two such cycles of Jupiter-Saturn conjunction in Aries maybe called a "Chakra" with the first cycle called as Avaroha and the second as Aaroha. Thus the smallest measure of quality of time or "Chakra" is 120 solar years. These Chakras can again be grouped as Krta (Four Chakra), Treta (three Chakra), Dvapara (Two Chakra) and Kali (one Chakra) having periods of 480, 360, 240 and 120 solar years each and the MahaChakra will be for 1200 solar years. According to Sri Achyuta Dasa, the "Dasatwa (Bondage) of India ends in 2000 AD" showing that the Kali Chakra of 120 years that started in 1880 AD is to end in 2000 AD when Jupiter & Saturn are to conjoin in Aries again. Thus, this MahaChakra must have started 1200 years back in 800 AD. Further, the KrtaChakra should have been from 800 AD to 1280 AD and during this period the best temples were built and the finest literature produced. This was the golden age of India. After this, TretaChakra was from 1280 to 1640 AD during which we find that Satwa declines and strife increases. The Dasatva (Bondage) of India begins as invaders came to rule and Muslim dynasty's are set up in India. DvaparaChakra was from 1640 to 1880 when the British directly ruled India under the Crown. With the advent of KaliChakra (1880 to 2000 AD), the fight for freedom begins in the form of revival of religion etc. Strife is at its highest and has gone to the villages as well. The main theme in India, the most spiritual Land, is still peace..or a peaceful approach to freedom in the Aaroha (Increasing) portion of 60 years (1880 to 1940 AD) whereas in the Avaroha portion 1940 to 2000 AD even Mahatma Gandhi takes a war-like posture in the Quit India resolution of 1942. The KaliChakra (1880 to 2000 AD) has seen the development of the most powerful weapons for mass destruction as well as their use. Next year, the entire cycle changes and another MahaChakra of 1200 Years begins with a KretaChakra (2000 to 2480 AD) and once again, the temples will be built, literature will florish and a lot of good will happen on this planet. Sri Achyuta Dasa, the pride of the Tradition of Orissa and the Direct Disciple of Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu has left such brilliant Gems in Oriya Prose and I hope to translate them properly for the benefit of all jyotish. With Regards, Sanjay Rath ---------------- You Wrote:- James - I guess we'll have to wait ( to see Sat Yuga arrives in 2000+ AD) .... Much has been said about the turn of the century - mostly doom and gloom - wouldn't it be great to have an age that brought back the dignity to man kind. A time where the family of Man understood it's roots in the spirit. As one man said ( Dr.Chopra) :...we are not human's having a spiritual experience, but spirits having a human experience" ------ eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/list/sjvc Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 1999 Report Share Posted March 27, 1999 Dear Sanjay ji a. all traditional astrologers in interior of country calculates dasa bhukti per solar year. This fact is certainly missing in all the charts calculators. b. another thing, which traditional astrologers follow is the reliance on constellations for all the possible results while predicting. The sign placement/movement is weighed less to constellation placement/movement for planet in question. c. year 2000 is considered significant for the conjunction of jupiter/saturn in kritkka nakshatra (lord surya). Is it a pointer to major world war. regards/Prafulla Gang - SRath <SRath fls123 <fschmidt; GJList <gjlist; SJVC <sjvc > Sunday, March 28, 1999 6:12 AM [sjvc] Kali Yuga : Brahma Vidya-Sri Achyuta Dasa > Jaya Jaya Jagannath > Dear Frank, > There is no doom. Sri Achyutu Dasa the direct disciple of Sri Sri > Chaitanya Mahaprabhu has stated in a stanza..about India that "FROM 13OO AD > TO 2000 AD INDIA SHALL SUFFER DASATWA OR BONDAGE. TOWARDS THE END, THIS WILL > BEGIN TO BREAK AND FROM 2000 AD SATYA SANATANA WILL BE ESTABLISHED." > Thus, when we are going to see a very glorious phase begining 2000 > AD, I cannot agree with those predictions about Doom. Later Sri Achyutaya > adds that this will be done by the strength or people of Baladeva (Sri > Balaram, the elder brother of Bhagawan). Now, we can only speculate here. > > BRAHMA VIDYA: There seems to be some confusion about understanding of the > Yuga cycles. This is so because of the lack of appretiation of the > "Sankalpha" done at the begining of the prayers. The day of Brahma is called > "Kalpha" from which the word "Sankalpha" is derived. Kalpha also means > Lagna. Hence Brahma controls longevity. In the day there is "Leela" and in > the Night, the universe is withdrawn and exists as a potentiality. This > Kalpha is about 4320 Million years and 360 such Brahma days make a Brahma > Year. Now, Brahma's life is for 100 such years and it is believed that > Brahma is in His 51st Year. The Kalpha is divided into 14 Manvantaras of > which we are in the 7th called Manu Vaivasvata. Each Manvantara is for > 306,720,000 years with gaps between the manvantara's in any Kalpha. Each > Manvantara is further subdivided into 71 Mahayuga (approx) as 1000 Mahayuga > make one Kalpha. Each Mahayuga is further divided into four Yuga's called > Krta (Four), Treta (Three), Dvapara (Two) and Kali (One) of lengths 4800, > 3600, 2400 and 1200 "YEARS OF THE GODS". Here the years of the Gods refers > to the Sun as Deva is derived from Diva (Light) and the Sun is also called > Divakara. THIS IS WHERE THE ERROR CREEPS IN I.E. THE INTERPRETATION OF THE > TERM "YEAR OF THE GODS". WHILE THIS IS GENERALLY ACCEPTED AS THE MOTION OF > THE SUN IN ONE DAY, SOME HAVE EQUATED THIS TO ONE YEAR OF HUMAN LIFE. Thus, > they misrepresent the periods as 4800, 3600, 2400 and 1200 human years > instead. > (Please recall my earlier posts in this regard on Manu Smriti. This > is also the reason why I have been requesting the Software programmers to > calculate the dasa-antar and other smaller periods correctly on the basis of > the Actual solar transit of 360 Degrees with fluctuations in one year > instead of interpolating on the figure of 365.25 days as a lot of > approximation creeps in. Another blunder is to equate the year of the Gods > blindly to 360 human years on the approximate basis of 1 Degree transit of > the Sun per day when we know this to be 365.25 solar days. This is how > another doubt of 360 days instead of 365.25 days per year has crept in.) > > START OF KALI: The dating of the Kali yuga is the vexed question. Tradition > accepts this as 3102 BC, whereas others relying on the other factors give > 900 BC or 600 BC etc. How do we resolve this? > > MY VIEWS/ WISDOM OF SRI ACHYUTA DASA: Not going into other considerations, > the 60 Year cycle of Jupiter and Saturn is considered very significant. The > Yuga of Kali of 1200 Years of the Gods can be sub-divided into four > sub-periods of 480, 360, 240 and 120 years of the Gods. WE can again divide > this into sub-sub-periods...and so on. Now, Two such cycles of > Jupiter-Saturn conjunction in Aries maybe called a "Chakra" with the first > cycle called as Avaroha and the second as Aaroha. Thus the smallest measure > of quality of time or "Chakra" is 120 solar years. These Chakras can again > be grouped as Krta (Four Chakra), Treta (three Chakra), Dvapara (Two Chakra) > and Kali (one Chakra) having periods of 480, 360, 240 and 120 solar years > each and the MahaChakra will be for 1200 solar years. According to Sri > Achyuta Dasa, the "Dasatwa (Bondage) of India ends in 2000 AD" showing that > the Kali Chakra of 120 years that started in 1880 AD is to end in 2000 AD > when Jupiter & Saturn are to conjoin in Aries again. Thus, this MahaChakra > must have started 1200 years back in 800 AD. Further, the KrtaChakra should > have been from 800 AD to 1280 AD and during this period the best temples > were built and the finest literature produced. This was the golden age of > India. After this, TretaChakra was from 1280 to 1640 AD during which we find > that Satwa declines and strife increases. The Dasatva (Bondage) of India > begins as invaders came to rule and Muslim dynasty's are set up in India. > DvaparaChakra was from 1640 to 1880 when the British directly ruled India > under the Crown. With the advent of KaliChakra (1880 to 2000 AD), the fight > for freedom begins in the form of revival of religion etc. Strife is at its > highest and has gone to the villages as well. The main theme in India, the > most spiritual Land, is still peace..or a peaceful approach to freedom in > the Aaroha (Increasing) portion of 60 years (1880 to 1940 AD) whereas in the > Avaroha portion 1940 to 2000 AD even Mahatma Gandhi takes a war-like posture > in the Quit India resolution of 1942. > The KaliChakra (1880 to 2000 AD) has seen the development of the > most powerful weapons for mass destruction as well as their use. Next year, > the entire cycle changes and another MahaChakra of 1200 Years begins with a > KretaChakra (2000 to 2480 AD) and once again, the temples will be built, > literature will florish and a lot of good will happen on this planet. Sri > Achyuta Dasa, the pride of the Tradition of Orissa and the Direct Disciple > of Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu has left such brilliant Gems in Oriya Prose and > I hope to translate them properly for the benefit of all jyotish. > > With Regards, > Sanjay Rath > ---------------- > You Wrote:- > > James - I guess we'll have to wait ( to see Sat Yuga arrives in 2000+ AD) > ... Much has been said about the turn of the century - mostly doom and > gloom - wouldn't it be great to have an age that brought back the dignity to > man kind. A time where the family of Man understood it's roots in the > spirit. As one man said ( Dr.Chopra) :...we are not human's having a > spiritual experience, but spirits having a > human experience" > > ------ > Track your stocks and funds in a StockMaster portfolio. 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Guest guest Posted March 28, 1999 Report Share Posted March 28, 1999 Dear Prafullaji, As I said, we can only speculate here. If Sri Baladeva is going to use His Bala for establishing Satya Sanatana, then, I guess a war can be expected. With Best Wishes, Sanjay Rath. Prafulla Gang <prafulla sjvc <sjvc > Sunday, March 28, 1999 8:39 AM [sjvc] Re: Kali Yuga : Brahma Vidya-Sri Achyuta Dasa >Dear Sanjay ji > >a. all traditional astrologers in interior of country calculates dasa >bhukti per solar year. This fact is certainly missing in all the charts >calculators. > >b. another thing, which traditional astrologers follow is the reliance on >constellations for all the possible results while predicting. The sign >placement/movement is weighed less to constellation placement/movement for >planet in question. > >c. year 2000 is considered significant for the conjunction of >jupiter/saturn in kritkka nakshatra (lord surya). Is it a pointer to major >world war. > >regards/Prafulla Gang >- >SRath <SRath >fls123 <fschmidt; GJList <gjlist; SJVC ><sjvc > >Sunday, March 28, 1999 6:12 AM >[sjvc] Kali Yuga : Brahma Vidya-Sri Achyuta Dasa > > >> Jaya Jaya Jagannath >> Dear Frank, >> There is no doom. Sri Achyutu Dasa the direct disciple of Sri Sri >> Chaitanya Mahaprabhu has stated in a stanza..about India that "FROM 13OO >AD >> TO 2000 AD INDIA SHALL SUFFER DASATWA OR BONDAGE. TOWARDS THE END, THIS >WILL >> BEGIN TO BREAK AND FROM 2000 AD SATYA SANATANA WILL BE ESTABLISHED." >> Thus, when we are going to see a very glorious phase begining 2000 >> AD, I cannot agree with those predictions about Doom. Later Sri Achyutaya >> adds that this will be done by the strength or people of Baladeva (Sri >> Balaram, the elder brother of Bhagawan). Now, we can only speculate here. >> >> BRAHMA VIDYA: There seems to be some confusion about understanding of the >> Yuga cycles. This is so because of the lack of appretiation of the >> "Sankalpha" done at the begining of the prayers. The day of Brahma is >called >> "Kalpha" from which the word "Sankalpha" is derived. Kalpha also means >> Lagna. Hence Brahma controls longevity. In the day there is "Leela" and in >> the Night, the universe is withdrawn and exists as a potentiality. This >> Kalpha is about 4320 Million years and 360 such Brahma days make a Brahma >> Year. Now, Brahma's life is for 100 such years and it is believed that >> Brahma is in His 51st Year. The Kalpha is divided into 14 Manvantaras of >> which we are in the 7th called Manu Vaivasvata. Each Manvantara is for >> 306,720,000 years with gaps between the manvantara's in any Kalpha. Each >> Manvantara is further subdivided into 71 Mahayuga (approx) as 1000 >Mahayuga >> make one Kalpha. Each Mahayuga is further divided into four Yuga's called >> Krta (Four), Treta (Three), Dvapara (Two) and Kali (One) of lengths 4800, >> 3600, 2400 and 1200 "YEARS OF THE GODS". Here the years of the Gods refers >> to the Sun as Deva is derived from Diva (Light) and the Sun is also called >> Divakara. THIS IS WHERE THE ERROR CREEPS IN I.E. THE INTERPRETATION OF THE >> TERM "YEAR OF THE GODS". WHILE THIS IS GENERALLY ACCEPTED AS THE MOTION OF >> THE SUN IN ONE DAY, SOME HAVE EQUATED THIS TO ONE YEAR OF HUMAN LIFE. >Thus, >> they misrepresent the periods as 4800, 3600, 2400 and 1200 human years >> instead. >> (Please recall my earlier posts in this regard on Manu Smriti. This >> is also the reason why I have been requesting the Software programmers to >> calculate the dasa-antar and other smaller periods correctly on the basis >of >> the Actual solar transit of 360 Degrees with fluctuations in one year >> instead of interpolating on the figure of 365.25 days as a lot of >> approximation creeps in. Another blunder is to equate the year of the Gods >> blindly to 360 human years on the approximate basis of 1 Degree transit of >> the Sun per day when we know this to be 365.25 solar days. This is how >> another doubt of 360 days instead of 365.25 days per year has crept in.) >> >> START OF KALI: The dating of the Kali yuga is the vexed question. >Tradition >> accepts this as 3102 BC, whereas others relying on the other factors give >> 900 BC or 600 BC etc. How do we resolve this? >> >> MY VIEWS/ WISDOM OF SRI ACHYUTA DASA: Not going into other considerations, >> the 60 Year cycle of Jupiter and Saturn is considered very significant. >The >> Yuga of Kali of 1200 Years of the Gods can be sub-divided into four >> sub-periods of 480, 360, 240 and 120 years of the Gods. WE can again >divide >> this into sub-sub-periods...and so on. Now, Two such cycles of >> Jupiter-Saturn conjunction in Aries maybe called a "Chakra" with the first >> cycle called as Avaroha and the second as Aaroha. Thus the smallest >measure >> of quality of time or "Chakra" is 120 solar years. These Chakras can again >> be grouped as Krta (Four Chakra), Treta (three Chakra), Dvapara (Two >Chakra) >> and Kali (one Chakra) having periods of 480, 360, 240 and 120 solar years >> each and the MahaChakra will be for 1200 solar years. According to Sri >> Achyuta Dasa, the "Dasatwa (Bondage) of India ends in 2000 AD" showing >that >> the Kali Chakra of 120 years that started in 1880 AD is to end in 2000 AD >> when Jupiter & Saturn are to conjoin in Aries again. Thus, this MahaChakra >> must have started 1200 years back in 800 AD. Further, the KrtaChakra >should >> have been from 800 AD to 1280 AD and during this period the best temples >> were built and the finest literature produced. This was the golden age of >> India. After this, TretaChakra was from 1280 to 1640 AD during which we >find >> that Satwa declines and strife increases. The Dasatva (Bondage) of India >> begins as invaders came to rule and Muslim dynasty's are set up in India. >> DvaparaChakra was from 1640 to 1880 when the British directly ruled India >> under the Crown. With the advent of KaliChakra (1880 to 2000 AD), the >fight >> for freedom begins in the form of revival of religion etc. Strife is at >its >> highest and has gone to the villages as well. The main theme in India, the >> most spiritual Land, is still peace..or a peaceful approach to freedom in >> the Aaroha (Increasing) portion of 60 years (1880 to 1940 AD) whereas in >the >> Avaroha portion 1940 to 2000 AD even Mahatma Gandhi takes a war-like >posture >> in the Quit India resolution of 1942. >> The KaliChakra (1880 to 2000 AD) has seen the development of the >> most powerful weapons for mass destruction as well as their use. Next >year, >> the entire cycle changes and another MahaChakra of 1200 Years begins with >a >> KretaChakra (2000 to 2480 AD) and once again, the temples will be built, >> literature will florish and a lot of good will happen on this planet. Sri >> Achyuta Dasa, the pride of the Tradition of Orissa and the Direct Disciple >> of Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu has left such brilliant Gems in Oriya Prose >and >> I hope to translate them properly for the benefit of all jyotish. >> >> With Regards, >> Sanjay Rath >> ---------------- >> You Wrote:- >> >> James - I guess we'll have to wait ( to see Sat Yuga arrives in 2000+ AD) >> ... Much has been said about the turn of the century - mostly doom and >> gloom - wouldn't it be great to have an age that brought back the dignity >to >> man kind. A time where the family of Man understood it's roots in the >> spirit. As one man said ( Dr.Chopra) :...we are not human's having a >> spiritual experience, but spirits having a >> human experience" >> >> ------ >> Track your stocks and funds in a StockMaster portfolio. With easy >> setup, you get quotes, charts, and news for them all on just one page. >> No limits, fast loading, and FREE! http://www.stockmaster.com/?a=f8 >> >> eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/list/sjvc >> Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com >> >> > > >------ >eGroups Spotlight: >"Kosovo-Reports" - Direct reports from Kosovo/Serbia/Yugoslavia. >http://offers./click/252/0 > >eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/list/sjvc >Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com > > ------ eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/list/sjvc Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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