Begging the floor (To Das - late comment)

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Dear Das,

 

I must confess that I lacked courage to enter the debate. Although I felt an

urge to write many things against your opinion, I refrained to avoid

antagonism. Also, another reason is that I feel you are senior to me in nearly

every aspect of life: experience, spiritual and material knowledge, and also

age wise. So why would someone like me be able to contribute to your

understanding and emotion? But, let me describe what happened a while ago to

serve as an analogy that I think best fits your situation:

 

“A month ago, my oldest daughter (7 years old) caught a terrible cold, which

eventually affect her ear. Since she didn't know how to blow out the mucus, the

excess accumulated nearby her left additive canal, which caused her a terrible

earache. The pain was so agonizing she that she just curled in her puff and

wepted for hours. The doctor prescribed an eardrop to clear the canal and

simple painkillers (paracetemol) to alleviate her pain. My heart broke down

when I saw her tears flow while in agony. So I approached her to give affection

and love in the hope to alleviate some of the distress and discomfort, but my

attempts were useless. The more I tried to help, the more she fussed and asked

to be left alone. I then understood the consequences of constant pain and

suffering.”

 

Das, I read all your posts of suffering and loneliness in VA Forum since 2003. I

believe in your excruciating pain, and when it was unbearable, you would send us

your words of deep distress in the hope of easing the pain. I can still remember

how you described some of the real agony that you were going through, and that

some of them were so painful that death seem to be the only relief. And just

like my daughter’s situation, which I just described, I figure that your

depression drives you into a self-destructive mode (or depression gear as you

mentioned), triggering aggressive or antagonist mood. No matter how we approach

your situation, your irritation remains, and no one can mitigate that suffering.

 

In such situation, some of those who care about you would prefer just pray for

your recovery. Well, at least that is how I feel. I rather appeal to God’s, to

Whom I humbly address as Sri Krishna, to intervene. He is the One that is

beyond the modes of nature and material existence. You may now have another

conviction that is not the same as when you were dedicated during early years,

and we must accept and respect your choice. We are here to learn our lessons,

right?

 

I also had times when I would returned to previous chapters of my life book to

review my understanding. Well, this may not be your case, but it’s your life

and soul that’s under stake. Nobody else’s….

 

Take care,

Roy

 

 

-

Das Goravani

valist

Thursday, February 09, 2006 3:14 PM

Begging the floor

HelloI hear of God lately on the list. I have a lot of thought about that

dude.So much suffering in my life has occurred because of “God” and “God’s

faithful followers”.I personally don’t believe in great beings I’ve never seen,

anymore.However, I have noticed, that human love for each other is very soothing

and healing.Talk about healing, just holding hands in a circle of three is so

very powerful. Just 3 friends.To be touched, and loved, and cared for, by other

humans, who really do care, who really do love, who spend the time, is the real

love, the real companionship.When you don’t like people, or can’t stand

society, then you go to privacy, or monastic something...and there you can have

peace away from people, and then there perhaps you make God your imaginary all

good friend, always present, always listening, good traits, especially in a

real human friend.All my devout friends die no differently than my atheist

knowns. Earthquakes sent by God I presume seem to not differentiate between

the praying and non praying. There is no evidence of this God.Besides, he’s

the God of the Jews, one tribe, they said one God, and their man said One God,

and Rome said it in Nicea, but hey, who cares about Roman Emperors who start

religiouns???????????I don’t like the many Gods either. That’s BS as well.

And so called sacrifices, etc., all ineffectual and useless.I was born one of

two many “for God”. I was beaten “for God” and made guilty “for God”, denied

my normal sexual behavior “for God”, embarrassed before many “for God”. I

watch the world kill each other “for God” and I watch how stupid it is that

each country thinks they are “God’s chosen” and how we support equality here in

US and then we support the Jews being “better” than their neighbors who are also

fighting “For God”.This is a bunch of malarky.The humans are real, visible,

actual, and definitely have souls. My friends are all leaving me in total pain

as much as possible and instead they “worship God”. Everyday they spend hours

chanting “his names” (yeah right) and leave me totally in pain of lonliness,

and I’m just around the corner. Hey, to me, that’s malarky, not “God ness”.And

this God knowledge, it’s just constantly used to one up each other. If you can’t

see that, you’re not very sensitive. I used to do it, I see others doing it.

That’s not “godness”, that’s just plan ol human, or dog, whichever, it’s

similar.But if you care about someone else, that is really doing Good or God.

Be God, and serve someone. Hey, I think I will do that. I’m usually just

laying around being extremely depressed, extremely so, but maybe I’ll start

trying to make somebody else happy, and be their God, give them something,

including a hug and some time, and some listening, and some

attention....yeah....that’s my God, serving others.Don’t look to me for

perfection anytime soon. I’m still in depression gear and the transmission

won’t shift.ThanksRick/Das das (AT) goravani (DOT) com

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