Guest guest Posted February 10, 2006 Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 Noel used the phrase “But you’re not happy” or such phrases, while commenting on my recent posting. This makes sense to some I suppose, and others have said that kind of thing. However, Noel and the others need some education re. Depression and how it relates to the rest of life. If you have real depression, you feel it all the time, and it doesn’t matter if your philosophy on life is correct or not. In fact, if you have depression, you could be very wealthy, or very famous, and you would still feel empty, sad, unhappy, etc. So using that phrase to negate what I say in an article is incorrect, if you care about truth. This is a personal and emotional issue for me. My father, and a few of my siblings, and myself, suffer seriously from very complex issues relating to body chemistry and the brain. If you harp on me about this and do not pay any heed to what I’m saying right now, I will get a bit sore about that. Because Murial Hemmingway’s relatives, 5 of them, committed suicide, does not mean she will, and if you tell her she will, that would obviously be a bit upsetting. If you use that against her, that too would be upsetting. If you use my pain against me in other areas of life, it’s a bit upsetting. If you think I am lieing, you will taunt me out of the closet all the more, and I will spill on this list more and more about what I go through, and that would not be good. It’s not pretty, nobody wants to hear it, and I don’t want to reveal it. But it just really bugs me when somebody says in reply to one of my philosophy posts that “but you’re not happy” (so what you say has no value). Wrong. Many great persons who made great contributions to society, who were loved, wealthy, famous, etc., still committed suicide over their own inner personal pain. Rachmaninov, the greatest composer ever, was extremely in pain, yet his contribution musically is unquestionable. That is one of hundreds, thousands. Should we say “Ban his music” because “it might contain his pain”. Or “it’s invalid because it was written by someone not completely happy”. Lord Caitanya, the effective leader of the Hare Krishna movement was obviously bi polar and it shows in his chart immediately, and, he is loved in India in a huge way, and his philosophy stands and he challenged and defeated many kavis and sadhus in sanskrit battle. So should he be negated because he was always sad and miserable? The real food I need to not be miserable is hard to find anymore in white lands. It’s called community. I need closeness of my people really. That’s what I’ve identified. But even still, I think, I may just “have it”. I try everything, and I still “have it”, and “It” is VERY REAL, believe me; DON’T make me explain how it feels, when it comes, what its like, etc., if you want that, just go see Jacobs Ladder, the movie, rent it, and that’s what it’s like. That is exactly what an attack is like. Jacobs Ladder. Mental horror on film. If you don’t have it, it’s extremely hard to understand it. I try to explain often. I use examples like “Imagine the feeling of when you are next to the hangman’s loop”. Now have that feeling all the time, or something extreme. You really feel it, it really hurts, it drives you crazy, people abandon you, it’s not your fault, you cannot maintain, you go down. It’s a misunderstood disease, and often shunned and hated, because that’s how we deal with that which we do not understand. Which may explain part of why I sometimes get pretty heavily attacked. I’m not sure why that posting elicited the response it did, but as much as the God loving have every right to post their God spews on this list, so also do I have a right to post my feelings, which I might call neo pagan science-spirituality or some such. When I refer to the God of the Jews, it does not mean I am anti Semitic or Neo Nazi. Rather, it is speaking plain historical truth. The Jews had a particular view of Godhead, as all tribes did, and their’s came to us white people over others, say over India and over Egypt, and that’s history. It’s not my fault, and I can say the “God of the Jews” because that is the one Jesus used and thus the one we are, in the West, all familiar with, because Rome and ensuing wars, migrations, coups, deals and intrigues wiped out our own religions long ago. And I have noticed, and can defend, that Westerners often retain Christian views of God even after converting to Hinduism- they transfer these feelings to Shiva, Krishna, etc., even though Vedic Scriptures show these deities to be different. Conditioning is strong. Anyway, lay off my unhappiness as any kind of reason to negate what I say. That is simply inccorect. That’s all. Nothing else. Thanks Rick/Das das (AT) goravani (DOT) com Secure online ordering of Goravani Jyotish 2.5 and Jyotish Studio 3 or (Please use email if at all possible) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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