East/West, Human Flaw, Nature's Law & Cosmic Illusion

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Dear Ashutosh and all:

 

Yes, the diminished population and reconfiguring of Earth's land mass are part

of the

indigenous prophecies based on humanity's failure to live within natural law in

humility and simplicity according to spiritual laws given to every culture,

race, and

creed. The arrogance of modern civilizations is based on the erroneous

perception

that we can control natural forces through material technological means. This

belief I

think is more prevalent in the West than the East, but the recognition of the

increasing

failure of modern technology to control nature is meant to direct us back to

living in

harmony with Divine Law and one another, not dependent on the material realm of

the

senses, which ultimately is illusion, according to Eastern belief. Only those

who can

apprehend this truth will survive the increasing pressures of natural disasters

and wars

until governments and their leaders learn to live in peace and harmony, not

violence and

aggression. This truth is being played out through the union (aspect) of Mars in

Bharani

and Saturn in Ashlesha that will culminate in further pressure until we as a

people

surrender to the supremacy of spiritual law over material domination; then there

will be

a flowering and flousishment of the material resources we need to live on a

sustainable

planet.

 

On this Venusian-Libran crescent Moon on Ganesh Chaturthi day, may the cinders

of

illusion be removed from the eyes of all who continue to perceive the

separation, not the

unity, of all life forms, so that we may not look at the "moon of illusion" but

be strong in

our resolve to avoid the company of those who in their ignorance have forgotten

the

essential truth of the supremacy of spirit over matter. And may all obstacles be

removed

that come between us and our true spiritual nature.

 

Om shantih,

 

Janna

 

jai Ganesh, jai Ganesh, jai Ganesh deva

Mata jaki Parvati, pita Mahadeva.

 

 

 

 

valist, "astrologerashutosh" <astrologerashutosh>

wrote:

> Dear Janna,

>

> In 1995, I met a faqir who was wandering about the city

> of Ahmedabad. He looked at me and said, "before your hair turn white, the

> world population will be reduced by one-third."

>

> Then, there was no way that I could have believed him. Now, there

> are no reasons not to believe.

>

> Strange happenings, but life is full of surprises.

>

> Ashutosh

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> "Janna Lynn" <jnanalynn>

> <valist>

> Tuesday, 06 September, 2005 06:36

> Re: East/West, human values & cosmic illusion

>

>

> Dear Mary, Juliana, and all: I want to add my voice to the discussion based

> on my own

> philosophy of the cosmic illusion of maya, learned through the years from

> Eastern

> enlightened masters. Although the Earth drama is only "apparent reality,"

> according to

> Vedanta, we must not forget that the only way to negate the illusion is

> through

> purification, of oneself, through spiritual practice, meditation, japa, and

> doing good to

> others through prayer and selfless service while observing tragic events in

> the spirit of

> detachment.

>

> Unfortunately there are many who may grasp the knowledge of illusion only

> intellectually, and are incapable of actually enacting human values of

> brotherhood and

> sisterhood in the face of tragedy such as war and natural disaster. It is

> easier to be

> ÒdetachedÓ when itÕs not oneself or a relative who has no food, water, or

> shelter, but if

> humanity fails to offer the cup of water (from the wellspring of compassion)

> to those

> who are suffering on a human level, then we have genuinely lost the point of

> this

> embodiment and the teachings of how to purify ourselves to attain liberation

> not only for

> ourselves, but in the spirit of the bodhisatva, until all attain

> enlightenment. If it is not

> possible to send material support to those in need, we have a moral

> obligation to send

> thoughts of goodwill to those suffering, which will help to purify our own

> minds and

> hearts and clear the dirt and debris of the collective mind and body, both

> literally and

> figuratively. Remember Krishna told Arjuna that he must "act" to fight the

> Mahabarata

> War to annihilate the forces of evil; he could not, like Hamlet,

> philosophize on whether

> "to be or not to be."

>

> The New Orleans disaster may be no doubt part of the purification that must

> occur to

> diminish the large numbers of the ignorant in the collective who are living

> outside of

> natural and spiritual law, but they are also human and their suffering

> should be

> considered as if it were our own because in the sense that we are all one,

> the only

> separation between those corpses in the Gulf of Mexico and ourselves is our

> own higher

> consciousness and our ability to act from that higher place of evolved

> awareness for the

> good of all. If we fail to recognize and act from this truth, we too are the

> floating

> corpses, with only breath separating us from them.

>

> This time of purification has been predicted by many indigenous peoples,

> ending

> according to the prophecies in 2012, and the tsunami and the hurricane may

> only be the

> beginning of greater disaster with Mars approaching a volatile point in

> October through

> retrograde and Rahu and Saturn adding their considerable influence to the

> potential for

> further loss of human life. For me the practice is trying to maintain my

> inner state of

> peace and detachment even in the midst of disasters such as hurricanes, but

> can we not

> all use the knowledge of jyotish to bring more light, not darkness, into the

> collective

> through the combined learning of people contributing on this list to

> illumine the

> planetary patterns at play and through our efforts become a force for good

> in the world?

>

> Tamaso Maa Jyotir Gamaya

>

> Janna

>

> http://seven_directions.tripod.com/

>

>

>

> valist, Mary Quinn <mary1quinn> wrote:

> > Dear Ashutosh, Naresh Desai, and, er, Sz...

> >

> > I remember reading in the paper of the floods in India

> > and I don't remember any talk about looting. Frankly,

> > I think that's commendable and speaks very well of the

> > Indian people under stress. Sadly, though, the US

> > press (granted, not a reliable source) is constantly

> > reporting incidents of daily life in India (usually

> > having to do with the treatment of women in poor

> > areas) that seem rather lacking in basic human values.

> > I think that we ALL have a long way to go in improving

> > human values. We just may do it in different ways and

> > under different circumstances.

> >

> > As cultures we are so different, all over the world

> > (and right here on this list!), when it comes to how

> > we think and how we value and how we live day to day.

> > But as people, I think we are exactly the same. We

> > each judge each other in the same way.

> >

> > At the beginning of the "War against Iraq", Baghdad

> > was without water, electricity, etc. The US Press

> > emphasized the looting going on, and many people here

> > saw that as a sign of the state of the entire Iraqi

> > culture. Well, time to take our own lumps. We can't

> > say 'they are bad' when they do it and 'it should be

> > overlooked' when we do. The Other Guy's Glass is

> > always half empty, and Ours is always half full. The

> > only thing that changes is who classifies themselves

> > as "Ours" - and that doesn't change because Everyone

> > classifies themselves as the good guys.

> >

> > No, Naresh, a majority of the world would Not love to

> > live here. The majority prefers their own homeland.

> > The people who leave their land and come to the US

> > only do so out of the desire to acquire some money

> > (because they have little of it). Every single

> > immigrant whom I've asked, has stated that they'd go

> > back home in an instant if they could afford it(there

> > are, of course, exceptions). They don't like our

> > lifestyle or our way of thinking - not because it is

> > bad per se, but because they know and value something

> > different. And they all think their way is the best.

> > They may say that the US is great, but I'll bet that's

> > mostly because we beat up on anyone who says

> > different. Ah, free speech.

> >

> > Every culture has something they verbalize as their

> > best feature (close family ties, freedom, etc) and

> > unbeknownst to them, they DO the opposite. We are

> > actually one of the less free countries in the world.

> > Yes, we are more free than people were during the

> > reign of the Camer Rouge (sp?) which is always a

> > favorite of ours to compare with as is Nazi Germany -

> > but ANYWHERE in the world is more free than that.

> >

> > We will never change our faults if we overlook them

> > and label others who point these faults out as being

> > envious. It's always easy to count how many times we

> > have to put up with the faults of others while

> > thinking they never have to put up with our own,

> > seeing as we don't have any.

> >

> > As a list, we are a microcosm of the world and look

> > how often we dissolve into mud-slinging and

> > hair-pulling. [My hands being just as full of mud and

> > hair as anyone else's.]

> >

> > Maybe we can give each other a break, and as Juliana

> > said (paraphrasing), send each other some love, cause

> > boy do we need it.

> >

> > Love to all,

> > The Pot who calls the Kettle black

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