Chinese and Vedic

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Hi Mike

I have thought about correspondences between Chinese and Vedic

I had noticed that but I don't think it is wise to mix systems any more than

you can mix quantum with Newtonian mechanics.

Systems have their similarities but they also may have their differences.

In Chinese US is monkey and monkey and snake are not compatible.

Snake years roughly correspond with Jupiter in Taurus

There are rough correspondences between the 12 zodiacal signs and 12 animals

Aries corresponds with dragon

Taurus corresponds with snake

then Gemini with horse

Cancer with Goat

Leo with Monkey

Virgo with rooster

Libra with dog

Scorpio with Boar

Saggitarius with Rat

Capricorn with OX

Aquarius with Tiger

and Pisces with rabbit

 

Each system give us one view of reality with it's strengths shortcomings and

limitations.Reality is ultimately something that can only be partly

described and how each view ties in with an alternate view is a complex

subject where facts often take subordination to philosophy.

Not even Lord Brahma can understand his creation fully

Om Tat Sat

Nicholas

 

 

 

 

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"michael grogan" <tropical

<valist>

Thursday, September 08, 2005 6:24 AM

Re: USA Chart

 

 

> Hi,

>

> Has anyone noticed that the US has its worst luck in snake years

> (1929, 1941, 2001)? How does this fit with jyotish?

>

> mike

>

> valist, "sanjayprabhakaran"

> <sanjaychettiar@g...> wrote:

> > || Om Gurave Namah ||

> >

> > Dear John and friends,

> >

> > Even I was told to use the Sg lagna chart for USA. One of the prime

> > reasons for USA being Super power is because of Jupiter.

> >

> > Sg lagna is known for it's excellent planning and administration.

> > Without this growth of USA cannot be explained.

> >

> > Some other factors which I feel are indicative are,

> >

> > 1. Encouragment to education (brain power) governed by Jupiter, One

> of

> > the prime reasons for it's growth. Strong Mercury in 7th.

> > 2. Bird (Eagle) as it's symbol, Lagna and 10th aspected by Sun the

> > 9th(protector) Lord. Sun governs Birds.

> > 3. Use of extensive use of it's Flag (Ketu) exaltation sign is Sg.

> > 4. Saturn in 10th, Democracy is it's prime focus.

> > 5. "In God we Trust" is it's phrase, Sg is Dharmic sign and

> acceptance

> > of all religion and favouring none in constitution. (Jupiter and

> Sg).

> > 6. It's expansive nature. (Jupiter).

> > 7. Aggressive policy in interaction, Mars in 7th aspected by Saturn.

> >

> > etc.

> >

> > But after 144 Years ( 12x12) the return chart is used to analyse,

> >

> > As you have already pointed out the Saturn transit in 8th, If you

> look

> > at the return chart it can give more clues.

> >

> > Jupiter is exalted in this chart, Showing it's actual rise after

> 1920.

> > But in Parivartana/exchange with Moon in Pisces. The transit of

> > saturn of Jupiter is more severe than over moon itself in such case.

> > Narayan Dasa of Le has A8.

> >

> > Le MD: 2000-07-08 (4:01:51) - 2010-07-08 (17:34:06)

> >

> > Dividing the period in 3 parts, Since Leo is Shirshodaya sign(1st

> > part) and the Lord Sun is in Gemini a prishtodaya sign(3rd part).

> The

> > 2nd part will be given sign aspects on Leo. The aspect of Mars and

> > Rahu hence gives much trouble and loss. Even the Sun in 8th is not

> > very helpful.

> >

> > Warm Regards

> > Sanjay P

> >

> >

> > USA

> >

> > Natal Chart

> >

> > July 4, 1776

> > Time: 18:30:00

> > Time Zone: 5:00:00 (West of GMT)

> > Place: 75 W 09' 51", 39 N 57' 08"

> > Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA

> > Altitude: 40.00 meters

> >

> >

> >

> > USA-144 Return

> >

> > Natal Chart

> >

> > July 7, 1920

> > Time: 16:11:00

> > Time Zone: 5:00:00 (West of GMT)

> > Place: 75 W 09' 51", 39 N 57' 08"

> > Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA

> > Altitude: 40.00 meters

> >

> > Lunar Yr-Mo: Raudra - Ashadha

> > Tithi: Krishna Sapthami (Sa) (84.83% left)

> > Vedic Weekday: Wednesday (Me)

> > Nakshatra: Uttarabhadra (Sa) (76.49% left)

> > Yoga: Sobhana (Su) (56.64% left)

> > Karana: Vishti (Sa) (69.66% left)

> > Hora Lord: Mars (5 min sign: Ar)

> > Mahakala Hora: Jupiter (5 min sign: Ta)

> > Kaala Lord: Jupiter (Mahakala: Mars)

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> > valist, "John" <jr_esq> wrote:

> > > Robin,

> > >

> > > You stated:

> > > >

> > > > Astrologically speaking...and *please* keep in mind that I am

> still

> > > a student & that these are honest questions, what is the date &

> time

> > > that you are using to determine the US chart and also, what is

> the

> > > value of the ayanamasha that you are using, both for the US chart

> &

> > > for the hurricane event & how did you determine those values?? >

> > >

> > > We have discussed this topic before in this forum. James

> Kelleher, a

> > > California jyotishi, researched and found that the last delegate

> who

> > > signed the Declaration of Independence penned his name at

> 18:30:00

> > > EST, July 4, 1776. Using the Lahiri ayanamsha, the lagna for the

> US

> > > becomes Sagittarius, with the Moon in the nakshatra of

> Shatabishak.

> > >

> > > I did not cast a prashna for the hurricane event. I used the

> transit

> > > of Saturn in Cancer with respect to the US Chart to make my

> analysis

> > > of events. The transit of Saturn on the 8th house from

> Sagittarius

> > > is considered inauspicious in traditional jyotish principles.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > John R.

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