Guest guest Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 12.0pt">Hey Das … If you remember back a few years ago you and I had a debate about on how wars are started with religions and words and that more conscience people should be more of an example of passivism for the more aggressive people in the world? I was pretty sick back then and left this forum to take care of my self. I am better now and have learned how to control my suffering to make life worth living again. I new better back then not get into a debate with a man of your intellect, But I couldn’t resist… God makes me do these things when I think I can be of help in some way. I must say though; it never ceases to amaze me how a man of your intellect can be so unconscious, when a man of my LACK of intellect can just fall into it so easily. It has to be because you’re just over thinking this thing my friend. You’re making this thing way harder then it is. So anyway let’s take a shot at that depression thing of yours. You need some kinesthetic tactile contact, or love…and no women is going to want to be around a man who is depressed all the time. So let’s see if we can’t simplify it for you. 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">If you take the word devil and look it up in the dictionary you will see that it is slang for the word dia. Then if you look up dia, you will see that it means “through or throughout”. Then try looking up the word Satan and you will see that it means “to be adverse”… and adverse is “to act in a contrary direction”. So! If you add the two back together you have that “us” as Individuals! Act in a contrary direction as we pass through or throughout live and or the universe. So what is the opposite of this if it is not acceptance? Or love? What makes you think there is any difference between the word God or Love? 12.0pt">There is no such thing as a separate entity called Satin or the devil! There is no such thing as a separate entity called God! These were little made up stores trying to explain to the children {or less conscience people} of the world the state of the mind, when you force it to live, and stay, within the body. All pain and pleasure is created by the self induced hypnotic state of individualism. See your self as this and you will suffer. As you start to remove this you will see there is no difference between you and the universe, or God, or love, or what ever word you want to use. You have got to stop being so judgmental and except the world as it is. It is exactly were it is suppose to be at this point in evolution. Das! You’re at war with your self! Give it up and get on with it, will ya! 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">Sorry about the philosophy again guys… God or *#$@!^ love made me do it….. 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"> Noel Gilbert Counselor Body, Mind & Soul LifeStyle Counselor "Arial Narrow";color:navy">Ayurveda - Herbalism Nutrition - Medical Astrology 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"> valist [valist] On Behalf Of Das Goravani Thursday, February 09, 2006 7:15 AM valist Begging the floor Hello I hear of God lately on the list. I have a lot of thought about that dude. So much suffering in my life has occurred because of “God” and “God’s faithful followers”. I personally don’t believe in great beings I’ve never seen, anymore. However, I have noticed, that human love for each other is very soothing and healing. Talk about healing, just holding hands in a circle of three is so very powerful. Just 3 friends. To be touched, and loved, and cared for, by other humans, who really do care, who really do love, who spend the time, is the real love, the real companionship. When you don’t like people, or can’t stand society, then you go to privacy, or monastic something...and there you can have peace away from people, and then there perhaps you make God your imaginary all good friend, always present, always listening, good traits, especially in a real human friend. All my devout friends die no differently than my atheist knowns. Earthquakes sent by God I presume seem to not differentiate between the praying and non praying. There is no evidence of this God. Besides, he’s the God of the Jews, one tribe, they said one God, and their man said One God, and Rome said it in Nicea, but hey, who cares about Roman Emperors who start religiouns??????????? I don’t like the many Gods either. That’s BS as well. And so called sacrifices, etc., all ineffectual and useless. I was born one of two many “for God”. I was beaten “for God” and made guilty “for God”, denied my normal sexual behavior “for God”, embarrassed before many “for God”. I watch the world kill each other “for God” and I watch how stupid it is that each country thinks they are “God’s chosen” and how we support equality here in US and then we support the Jews being “better” than their neighbors who are also fighting “For God”. This is a bunch of malarky. The humans are real, visible, actual, and definitely have souls. My friends are all leaving me in total pain as much as possible and instead they “worship God”. Everyday they spend hours chanting “his names” (yeah right) and leave me totally in pain of lonliness, and I’m just around the corner. Hey, to me, that’s malarky, not “God ness”. And this God knowledge, it’s just constantly used to one up each other. If you can’t see that, you’re not very sensitive. I used to do it, I see others doing it. That’s not “godness”, that’s just plan ol human, or dog, whichever, it’s similar. But if you care about someone else, that is really doing Good or God. Be God, and serve someone. Hey, I think I will do that. I’m usually just laying around being extremely depressed, extremely so, but maybe I’ll start trying to make somebody else happy, and be their God, give them something, including a hug and some time, and some listening, and some attention....yeah....that’s my God, serving others. Don’t look to me for perfection anytime soon. I’m still in depression gear and the transmission won’t shift. font-family:"Courier New""> Thanks font-family:Verdana"> Rick/Das das (AT) goravani (DOT) com Secure online ordering of Goravani Jyotish 2.5 and Jyotish Studio 3 font-family:Verdana"> font-family:Verdana"> or (Please use email if at all possible) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 excellent, noel. d'evil - what is the 'devil' ? that which is of (d') evil... what is evil? evil is 'live' backwards. resisting life. resisting love. holding breath. fear. it's the best the ego, evil, can do... it's the only power it has... to talk between our ears. it has no power of its own, other than the power we give it. this is very important, what you say here... > There is no such thing as a separate entity called Satin or the > devil! There is no such thing as a separate entity called God! > These were little made up stores trying to explain to the children > {or less conscience people} of the world excellent. and true. > All pain and pleasure is created by the self induced hypnotic state > of individualism. yes, very true. i'm a hypnotherapist and i see my work to DE-hypnotize people from their self-induced trances, fears. we talk to ourselves between our ears and that self-talk manifests in our experience. we are SO powerful. our thoughts are directly related to our experience. both the thoughts we are aware of, and also DEEP, unconscious thoughts, attitudes, beliefs, etc. > See your self as this and you will suffer. As you start to remove > this you will see there is no difference between you and the > universe, or God, or love, or what ever word you want to use. You > have got to stop being so judgmental and except the world as it is. > It is exactly were it is suppose to be at this point in evolution. there is a lot of talk these days about the art of allowing. very important. it's an attitude of loving, allowing children to play in the sandbox and play whatever games they wish to play without judging them, without getting our knickers all tied up in knots, as they say in OZ. great post, noel. love, patricia *** "Nothing is so firmly believed, as what we least know" - Michael de Montaigne *** Patricia Robinett www.aesculapiuspress.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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