Guest guest Posted January 4, 2006 Report Share Posted January 4, 2006 Jupiter indicates that you have done Spiritual Sadhana in previous birth.With best wishes.AstroAgraastrologerashutosh <astrologerashutosh (AT) (DOT) fr> wrote: Dear astrologers, On 27th dec'05, mars and saturn were again in full mutual aspect, with mars in derect motion and saturn in retrograde gait. I had a dream on 27th morning at about 4.15 am. I do not remember the whole reverie but it ended with a vision that I have attained some siddhis or powers and I am shooting portions of that energy towards my friends and family members who are catching and absorbing it. The last one to receive it is my father. But, as soon as I gave it to my father, I felt as if it should not have been done and it will not benefit but harm him. I woke up with this thought and apprehensions about my father's well-being brought me to a complete and alert wakefulness. He sleeps in the adjoining bedroom. Barely five seconds later, the sounds of his laboured and suffocated breathing started coming. I rushed out of bed straight into his room and switched on the lights. He was indeed having a fit. His teeth were clenched, the tongue was blocking the breath and he was not conscious. It has happened twice ealier when his blood pressure rises to abnormal levels. I called out to my wife and sister and asked for a table spoon to open his teeth so that he gets some air. The doctor was called, but by the time he came, my father had revived a bit. But, if I had not had that vision, the consequences could have been serious. The weather being very cold in Delhi this time of the year, we sleep with all doors closed, even those which lead to the living room. In this situation, his sounds of suffering would not have been loud enough to wake anyone up from his early morning deep slumber. In the evening, at around 18.53, just outside my residence, barely twenty metres away, on the road, a car burst into flames. I was with a client discussing his horoscope, when the first tyre burst with a loud bang. I thought that it to be a gunshot and looked out of the window to explore. There, the flames of the car, burning brightly, became visible. It belonged to someone who stopped the car by the side of the road to look at a troubling engine. As he opened the bonnet, the flames leaped out. He ran away to safety leaving the car to burn. A small crowd had gathered to see this normally unseen incident. I had the dream at: 27th dec05 4.15 hrs IST Delhi, India 28N39 77E13 I heard the burning car's tyre burst at 18.53 hrs. I am still trying to find out the meaning of the dream where I attain powers and then distribute it to everyone. why does it empower all but becomes harmfull for my father. My birth details: 19th october 1971 00.10 hrs Jodhpur India 26N18 73E08 Mars rules over my tenth and fifth house and it was in full mutual aspect on 27th dec'05. But, I have not been able to find the planetary cause for the intuitive dream. Maybe it is ketu over natal moon, the lagna lord. Regards, Ashutosh DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2006 Report Share Posted January 4, 2006 Dear ashutosh, The events are very much revealing and interrelated. While I refrain from commenting on it right now, you might not have missed the relation between them. Yours is a night birth and the Father is represented by Saturn. Your spiritual sadhanas, partially being kamya karmas, are adversely effecting your Saturn. On a physical level, this is reflected in your father being ill. This will in turn makes your mars more aggressive, as indicated by the burst. It is notable it happend when you are looking at a chart. Please check for your Jupiter too. However I am sure all will be well in the end, though I am apprehensive that it may cause some property loss and expenses for you. I am sure you will see the light your self before I can talk more about it. regards, Kishore patnaik. valist, "astrologerashutosh" <astrologerashutosh> wrote: > > Dear astrologers, > > On 27th dec'05, mars and saturn were again in full mutual aspect, with mars in derect motion and saturn in retrograde gait. > > I had a dream on 27th morning at about 4.15 am. I do not remember the whole reverie but it ended with a vision that I have attained some siddhis or powers and I am shooting portions of that energy towards my friends and family members who are catching and absorbing it. The last one to receive it is my father. > > But, as soon as I gave it to my father, I felt as if it should not have been done and it will not benefit but harm him. I woke up with this thought and apprehensions about my father's well- being brought me to a complete and alert wakefulness. > > He sleeps in the adjoining bedroom. Barely five seconds later, the sounds of his laboured and suffocated breathing started coming. I rushed out of bed straight into his room and switched on the lights. He was indeed having a fit. His teeth were clenched, the tongue was blocking the breath and he was not conscious. It has happened twice ealier when his blood pressure rises to abnormal levels. > > I called out to my wife and sister and asked for a table spoon to open his teeth so that he gets some air. The doctor was called, but by the time he came, my father had revived a bit. But, if I had not had that vision, the consequences could have been serious. The weather being very cold in Delhi this time of the year, we sleep with all doors closed, even those which lead to the living room. In this situation, his sounds of suffering would not have been loud enough to wake anyone up from his early morning deep slumber. > > In the evening, at around 18.53, just outside my residence, barely twenty metres away, on the road, a car burst into flames. I was with a client discussing his horoscope, when the first tyre burst with a loud bang. I thought that it to be a gunshot and looked out of the window to explore. There, the flames of the car, burning brightly, became visible. > > It belonged to someone who stopped the car by the side of the road to look at a troubling engine. As he opened the bonnet, the flames leaped out. He ran away to safety leaving the car to burn. A small crowd had gathered to see this normally unseen incident. > > I had the dream at: > > 27th dec05 > 4.15 hrs IST > Delhi, > India > 28N39 77E13 > > > I heard the burning car's tyre burst at 18.53 hrs. > > > I am still trying to find out the meaning of the dream where I attain powers and then distribute it to everyone. why does it empower all but becomes harmfull for my father. > > My birth details: > > 19th october 1971 > 00.10 hrs > Jodhpur > India > 26N18 73E08 > > Mars rules over my tenth and fifth house and it was in full mutual aspect on 27th dec'05. But, I have not been able to find the planetary cause for the intuitive dream. Maybe it is ketu over natal moon, the lagna lord. > > > Regards, > > Ashutosh > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2006 Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 Dear Kishore, Thanks for your interpretations. My father is very active otherwise and walks for four kilometres everyday. But, sometimes, due to dietary or psychological reasons, his blood pressure shoots up and such potential fatal problems occur. I have stopped active spiritual sadhanas ever since my jupiter period began, but as one of my dear friends says, my astrological practice itself involves lot of spiritual thinking and sharpening of intuition. I am working on the property and money loss angle. I think the retrograde movement of venus in sixth house will bring troubles related to property and vehicle. Thanks again, Ashutosh - "kishore mohan" <kishorepatnaik09 > <valist> Wednesday, 04 January, 2006 22:34 Re: mars- saturn aspect > Dear ashutosh, > > The events are very much revealing and interrelated. While I refrain > from commenting on it right now, you might not have missed the > relation between them. > > Yours is a night birth and the Father is represented by Saturn. Your > spiritual sadhanas, partially being kamya karmas, are adversely > effecting your Saturn. On a physical level, this is reflected in your > father being ill. > > This will in turn makes your mars more aggressive, as indicated by > the burst. It is notable it happend when you are looking at a chart. > Please check for your Jupiter too. > > However I am sure all will be well in the end, though I am > apprehensive that it may cause some property loss and expenses for > you. > > I am sure you will see the light your self before I can talk more > about it. > > regards,> > Kishore patnaik.> > > > > valist, "astrologerashutosh" > <astrologerashutosh> wrote:> >> > Dear astrologers,> > > > On 27th dec'05, mars and saturn were again > in full mutual aspect, with mars in derect motion and saturn in > retrograde gait.> > > > I had a dream on 27th morning at about 4.15 am. I do not > remember the whole reverie but it ended with a vision that I have > attained some siddhis or powers and I am shooting portions of that > energy towards my friends and family members who are catching and > absorbing it. The last one to receive it is my father.> > > > But, as soon as I gave it to my father, I felt as if it > should not have been done and it will not benefit but harm him. I > woke up with this thought and apprehensions about my father's well-> being brought me to a complete and alert wakefulness.> > > > He sleeps in the adjoining bedroom. Barely five seconds > later, the sounds of his laboured and suffocated breathing started > coming. I rushed out of bed straight into his room and switched on > the lights. He was indeed having a fit. His teeth were clenched, the > tongue was blocking the breath and he was not conscious. It has > happened twice ealier when his blood pressure rises to abnormal > levels.> > > > I called out to my wife and sister and asked for a table > spoon to open his teeth so that he gets some air. The doctor was > called, but by the time he came, my father had revived a bit. But, if > I had not had that vision, the consequences could have been serious. > The weather being very cold in Delhi this time of the year, we sleep > with all doors closed, even those which lead to the living room. In > this situation, his sounds of suffering would not have been loud > enough to wake anyone up from his early morning deep slumber.> > > > In the evening, at around 18.53, just outside my residence, > barely twenty metres away, on the road, a car burst into flames. I > was with a client discussing his horoscope, when the first tyre burst > with a loud bang. I thought that it to be a gunshot and looked out of > the window to explore. There, the flames of the car, burning > brightly, became visible. > > > > It belonged to someone who stopped the car by the side of > the road to look at a troubling engine. As he opened the bonnet, the > flames leaped out. He ran away to safety leaving the car to burn. A > small crowd had gathered to see this normally unseen incident.> > > > I had the dream at:> > > > 27th dec05> > 4.15 hrs IST> > Delhi,> > India> > 28N39 77E13> > > > > > I heard the burning car's tyre burst at 18.53 hrs. > > > > > > I am still trying to find out the meaning of the dream > where I attain powers and then distribute it to everyone. why does it > empower all but becomes harmfull for my father.> > > > My birth details:> > > > 19th october 1971> > 00.10 hrs> > Jodhpur> > India> > 26N18 73E08> > > > Mars rules over my tenth and fifth house and it was in full > mutual aspect on 27th dec'05. But, I have not been able to find the > planetary cause for the intuitive dream. Maybe it is ketu over natal > moon, the lagna lord. > > > > > > Regards,> > > > Ashutosh> >> > > > > > > > > For software visit: > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 Dear ashutosh, Did you ever try to find out in which stars and transits your father's BP shoots up? Kishore patnaik valist, "astrologerashutosh" <astrologerashutosh> wrote: > > Dear Kishore, > > Thanks for your interpretations. > > My father is very active otherwise and walks for four kilometres everyday. But, sometimes, due to dietary or psychological reasons, his blood pressure shoots up and such potential fatal problems occur. > > I have stopped active spiritual sadhanas ever since my jupiter period began, but as one of my dear friends says, my astrological practice itself involves lot of spiritual thinking and sharpening of intuition. > > I am working on the property and money loss angle. I think the retrograde movement of venus in sixth house will bring troubles related to property and vehicle. > > Thanks again, > > Ashutosh > > > > > - > "kishore mohan" <kishorepatnaik09@g...> > <valist> > Wednesday, 04 January, 2006 22:34 > Re: mars- saturn aspect > > > > Dear ashutosh, > > > > The events are very much revealing and interrelated. While I refrain > > from commenting on it right now, you might not have missed the > > relation between them. > > > > Yours is a night birth and the Father is represented by Saturn. Your > > spiritual sadhanas, partially being kamya karmas, are adversely > > effecting your Saturn. On a physical level, this is reflected in your > > father being ill. > > > > This will in turn makes your mars more aggressive, as indicated by > > the burst. It is notable it happend when you are looking at a chart. > > Please check for your Jupiter too. > > > > However I am sure all will be well in the end, though I am > > apprehensive that it may cause some property loss and expenses for > > you. > > > > I am sure you will see the light your self before I can talk more > > about it. > > > > regards, > > > > Kishore patnaik. > > > > > > > > > > valist, "astrologerashutosh" > > <astrologerashutosh> wrote: > > > > > > Dear astrologers, > > > > > > On 27th dec'05, mars and saturn were again > > in full mutual aspect, with mars in derect motion and saturn in > > retrograde gait. > > > > > > I had a dream on 27th morning at about 4.15 am. I do not > > remember the whole reverie but it ended with a vision that I have > > attained some siddhis or powers and I am shooting portions of that > > energy towards my friends and family members who are catching and > > absorbing it. The last one to receive it is my father. > > > > > > But, as soon as I gave it to my father, I felt as if it > > should not have been done and it will not benefit but harm him. I > > woke up with this thought and apprehensions about my father's well- > > being brought me to a complete and alert wakefulness. > > > > > > He sleeps in the adjoining bedroom. Barely five seconds > > later, the sounds of his laboured and suffocated breathing started > > coming. I rushed out of bed straight into his room and switched on > > the lights. He was indeed having a fit. His teeth were clenched, the > > tongue was blocking the breath and he was not conscious. It has > > happened twice ealier when his blood pressure rises to abnormal > > levels. > > > > > > I called out to my wife and sister and asked for a table > > spoon to open his teeth so that he gets some air. The doctor was > > called, but by the time he came, my father had revived a bit. But, if > > I had not had that vision, the consequences could have been serious. > > The weather being very cold in Delhi this time of the year, we sleep > > with all doors closed, even those which lead to the living room. In > > this situation, his sounds of suffering would not have been loud > > enough to wake anyone up from his early morning deep slumber. > > > > > > In the evening, at around 18.53, just outside my residence, > > barely twenty metres away, on the road, a car burst into flames. I > > was with a client discussing his horoscope, when the first tyre burst > > with a loud bang. I thought that it to be a gunshot and looked out of > > the window to explore. There, the flames of the car, burning > > brightly, became visible. > > > > > > It belonged to someone who stopped the car by the side of > > the road to look at a troubling engine. As he opened the bonnet, the > > flames leaped out. He ran away to safety leaving the car to burn. A > > small crowd had gathered to see this normally unseen incident. > > > > > > I had the dream at: > > > > > > 27th dec05 > > > 4.15 hrs IST > > > Delhi, > > > India > > > 28N39 77E13 > > > > > > > > > I heard the burning car's tyre burst at 18.53 hrs. > > > > > > > > > I am still trying to find out the meaning of the dream > > where I attain powers and then distribute it to everyone. why does it > > empower all but becomes harmfull for my father. > > > > > > My birth details: > > > > > > 19th october 1971 > > > 00.10 hrs > > > Jodhpur > > > India > > > 26N18 73E08 > > > > > > Mars rules over my tenth and fifth house and it was in full > > mutual aspect on 27th dec'05. But, I have not been able to find the > > planetary cause for the intuitive dream. Maybe it is ketu over natal > > moon, the lagna lord. > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Ashutosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 Dear AstroAgra, Thanks a lot. Regards, Ashutosh - Sheel Misha valist Wednesday, 04 January, 2006 21:21 Re: mars- saturn aspect Dear Ashutosh jiOn 27-12-2005 you experienced two events:1- A predictive dream.2- Illness of father.The simple interpretation according to my limited knowledge is as given below:Based on Krishnamurti Ayanamsa, as per Vimshottari you was under the sway of:1st level : Mahadasa-Jupiter2nd level : Antardasa-Venus3rd level : Pratyantardasa-Mercury4th level : Sookshamdasa-Rahu5th level : Pranadasa-MercuryJupiter is 9th lord. 9th house relates to dream and father also.Venus is in 8th to 9th house. Venus is connected with Sun (significator of father) and 3rd and 12th lord Mercury. Mercury is lord of 3rd and 12th. 3rd house shows ones awakening from sleep . 3rd house is Maraka for father being 7th from 9th.12th house states future state of existence.Rahu is conjoined with Mars. Mars is also Maraka for father being 2nd lord from 9th. Rahu gives the memory of past existence in dreams. In your horoscope 5th Jupiter indicates that you have done Spiritual Sadhana in previous birth.With best wishes.AstroAgraastrologerashutosh <astrologerashutosh (AT) (DOT) fr> wrote: Dear astrologers, On 27th dec'05, mars and saturn were again in full mutual aspect, with mars in derect motion and saturn in retrograde gait. I had a dream on 27th morning at about 4.15 am. I do not remember the whole reverie but it ended with a vision that I have attained some siddhis or powers and I am shooting portions of that energy towards my friends and family members who are catching and absorbing it. The last one to receive it is my father. But, as soon as I gave it to my father, I felt as if it should not have been done and it will not benefit but harm him. I woke up with this thought and apprehensions about my father's well-being brought me to a complete and alert wakefulness. He sleeps in the adjoining bedroom. Barely five seconds later, the sounds of his laboured and suffocated breathing started coming. I rushed out of bed straight into his room and switched on the lights. He was indeed having a fit. His teeth were clenched, the tongue was blocking the breath and he was not conscious. It has happened twice ealier when his blood pressure rises to abnormal levels. I called out to my wife and sister and asked for a table spoon to open his teeth so that he gets some air. The doctor was called, but by the time he came, my father had revived a bit. But, if I had not had that vision, the consequences could have been serious. The weather being very cold in Delhi this time of the year, we sleep with all doors closed, even those which lead to the living room. In this situation, his sounds of suffering would not have been loud enough to wake anyone up from his early morning deep slumber. In the evening, at around 18.53, just outside my residence, barely twenty metres away, on the road, a car burst into flames. I was with a client discussing his horoscope, when the first tyre burst with a loud bang. I thought that it to be a gunshot and looked out of the window to explore. There, the flames of the car, burning brightly, became visible. It belonged to someone who stopped the car by the side of the road to look at a troubling engine. As he opened the bonnet, the flames leaped out. He ran away to safety leaving the car to burn. A small crowd had gathered to see this normally unseen incident. I had the dream at: 27th dec05 4.15 hrs IST Delhi, India 28N39 77E13 I heard the burning car's tyre burst at 18.53 hrs. I am still trying to find out the meaning of the dream where I attain powers and then distribute it to everyone. why does it empower all but becomes harmfull for my father. My birth details: 19th october 1971 00.10 hrs Jodhpur India 26N18 73E08 Mars rules over my tenth and fifth house and it was in full mutual aspect on 27th dec'05. But, I have not been able to find the planetary cause for the intuitive dream. Maybe it is ketu over natal moon, the lagna lord. Regards, Ashutosh DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2006 Report Share Posted January 7, 2006 dear ashutosh, Okay, let me rephrase my question as an academic exercise : could you have predicted the problem depending upon transits and your horoscope alone? Kishore patnaik valist, "astrologerashutosh" <astrologerashutosh> wrote: > > Dear Kishore, > > Ever since saturn entered cancer, I had been > expecting some worries concerning my father. From cancer saturn aspects the > tenth house (father) and tenth lord, mars, placed in seventh. > > In all the cases of raised BP, the mars-saturn influence on tenth > house was there. The moon sign and nakshtras were different, but the > positions of sun, mars and saturn were not positive in vargas too. > > As I do not have his horoscope, nothing can be said conclusively. > But, here I am laying emphasis upon the fact that he survived and is back to > normal again. The factors which saved him are again jupiter-moon in transit > in my fourth and their aspect on tenth house. > > Regards, > > Ashutosh > > > > - > "kishore mohan" <kishorepatnaik09@g...> > <valist> > Friday, 06 January, 2006 22:18 > Re: mars- saturn aspect > > > > Dear ashutosh, > > > > Did you ever try to find out in which stars and transits your > > father's BP shoots up? > > > > Kishore patnaik > > > > valist, "astrologerashutosh" > > <astrologerashutosh> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Kishore, > > > > > > Thanks for your interpretations. > > > > > > My father is very active otherwise and walks for four > > kilometres everyday. But, sometimes, due to dietary or psychological > > reasons, his blood pressure shoots up and such potential fatal > > problems occur. > > > > > > I have stopped active spiritual sadhanas ever since my > > jupiter period began, but as one of my dear friends says, my > > astrological practice itself involves lot of spiritual thinking and > > sharpening of intuition. > > > > > > I am working on the property and money loss angle. I think > > the retrograde movement of venus in sixth house will bring troubles > > related to property and vehicle. > > > > > > Thanks again, > > > > > > Ashutosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > "kishore mohan" <kishorepatnaik09@g...> > > > <valist> > > > Wednesday, 04 January, 2006 22:34 > > > Re: mars- saturn aspect > > > > > > > > > > Dear ashutosh, > > > > > > > > The events are very much revealing and interrelated. While I > > refrain > > > > from commenting on it right now, you might not have missed the > > > > relation between them. > > > > > > > > Yours is a night birth and the Father is represented by Saturn. > > Your > > > > spiritual sadhanas, partially being kamya karmas, are adversely > > > > effecting your Saturn. On a physical level, this is reflected in > > your > > > > father being ill. > > > > > > > > This will in turn makes your mars more aggressive, as indicated > > by > > > > the burst. It is notable it happend when you are looking at a > > chart. > > > > Please check for your Jupiter too. > > > > > > > > However I am sure all will be well in the end, though I am > > > > apprehensive that it may cause some property loss and expenses > > for > > > > you. > > > > > > > > I am sure you will see the light your self before I can talk more > > > > about it. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > Kishore patnaik. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > valist, "astrologerashutosh" > > > > <astrologerashutosh> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear astrologers, > > > > > > > > > > On 27th dec'05, mars and saturn were > > again > > > > in full mutual aspect, with mars in derect motion and saturn in > > > > retrograde gait. > > > > > > > > > > I had a dream on 27th morning at about 4.15 am. I do > > not > > > > remember the whole reverie but it ended with a vision that I have > > > > attained some siddhis or powers and I am shooting portions of > > that > > > > energy towards my friends and family members who are catching and > > > > absorbing it. The last one to receive it is my father. > > > > > > > > > > But, as soon as I gave it to my father, I felt as if it > > > > should not have been done and it will not benefit but harm him. I > > > > woke up with this thought and apprehensions about my father's > > well- > > > > being brought me to a complete and alert wakefulness. > > > > > > > > > > He sleeps in the adjoining bedroom. Barely five seconds > > > > later, the sounds of his laboured and suffocated breathing > > started > > > > coming. I rushed out of bed straight into his room and switched > > on > > > > the lights. He was indeed having a fit. His teeth were clenched, > > the > > > > tongue was blocking the breath and he was not conscious. It has > > > > happened twice ealier when his blood pressure rises to abnormal > > > > levels. > > > > > > > > > > I called out to my wife and sister and asked for a table > > > > spoon to open his teeth so that he gets some air. The doctor was > > > > called, but by the time he came, my father had revived a bit. > > But, if > > > > I had not had that vision, the consequences could have been > > serious. > > > > The weather being very cold in Delhi this time of the year, we > > sleep > > > > with all doors closed, even those which lead to the living room. > > In > > > > this situation, his sounds of suffering would not have been loud > > > > enough to wake anyone up from his early morning deep slumber. > > > > > > > > > > In the evening, at around 18.53, just outside my > > residence, > > > > barely twenty metres away, on the road, a car burst into flames. > > I > > > > was with a client discussing his horoscope, when the first tyre > > burst > > > > with a loud bang. I thought that it to be a gunshot and looked > > out of > > > > the window to explore. There, the flames of the car, burning > > > > brightly, became visible. > > > > > > > > > > It belonged to someone who stopped the car by the side > > of > > > > the road to look at a troubling engine. As he opened the bonnet, > > the > > > > flames leaped out. He ran away to safety leaving the car to burn. > > A > > > > small crowd had gathered to see this normally unseen incident. > > > > > > > > > > I had the dream at: > > > > > > > > > > 27th dec05 > > > > > 4.15 hrs IST > > > > > Delhi, > > > > > India > > > > > 28N39 77E13 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I heard the burning car's tyre burst at 18.53 hrs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am still trying to find out the meaning of the dream > > > > where I attain powers and then distribute it to everyone. why > > does it > > > > empower all but becomes harmfull for my father. > > > > > > > > > > My birth details: > > > > > > > > > > 19th october 1971 > > > > > 00.10 hrs > > > > > Jodhpur > > > > > India > > > > > 26N18 73E08 > > > > > > > > > > Mars rules over my tenth and fifth house and it was in > > full > > > > mutual aspect on 27th dec'05. But, I have not been able to find > > the > > > > planetary cause for the intuitive dream. Maybe it is ketu over > > natal > > > > moon, the lagna lord. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Ashutosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > : valist- > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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