Guest guest Posted May 2, 2006 Report Share Posted May 2, 2006 Okay, firstly, Juliana, I wasn't talking to you, though it seemed like it. You see, I get lots of emails and phone calls from well wishers and they all say the same things which I won't or can't try anymore, and one of the buzz words is Sat Sanga. Having heard this phrase since 25 yrs ago, from all groups, about all Gurus, I just am sick of it. I kindof wish people would just say "Spiritual Association", which is basically what it means. That way, I could tell them in plain English that I'm not into any form of "Spiritual Association" that I currently know of. Is that better? Secondly, did you know if Medieval England, there was also the "Sanctuary" law about the Church altar? Any criminal who could make it to the altar could claim Sanctuary and the priests would put him up, protect him, until a court type of situation could be worked out. Otherwise, the Sherrifs would just kill him pretty much on the spot where they found him, without any trial, guilty or not. So White man = Hawaiin Man I know this isn't what you meant, but I'm fond of settling the score always and making sure white man knows that he's been as much of a jackass as everybody else, including Human Sacrifice etc etc. I know I'm the king of blah blah blah.... I know I'm the most obnoxious person on this list. I only wonder why, or how, others vent the pain, of if they don't feel it, I wonder how that is. Two of my best friends growing up committed suicide. 3 of my cousins died tragically. One in-law was murdered by a gang. Two of my nephews are deranged and homeless. My father lived most of my teen years in a mental hospital. My mother cried all the time. Vietnam was my youth. Bush's and Iraq my adult life. Kosovo...Africa...Tsunami...what a meat grinder. My daughter is all scarred from hot water. My son's eyeball doesn't fit and his face is scared from a head on at 80 MPH that killed the other guy. My favorite brother tried to kill himself thrice and is really messed up from that due to the drugs doing the task partly before he was saved. My mother was sexually abused by her father. My favorite aunt died of lung cancer. When I was a kid, my bikes were stolen 5 times. My siblings many times as well. That was Oakland. The black verse White thing was in full rage at the time. The black panthers and SLA were around. We went to school on that turf. I was beaten up for being white often. Once when I was about 10, I was the first to find a car overturned, with a 3 year old's brains and blood gushing out from underneath in my plain site and another screaming with blood shooting from his jugular veign into the air. Despite it being in Church, I climbed up onto my Moms coffin and kissed her on the forehead. I knew I would never see this person, so dear to me, ever again. The only woman I ever really strongly loved abused me, in my mind, by never marrying me. Perhaps this is Hell and we're already here. I try like crazy to be OK, I really do. It just overwhealms me regularly. Well, I'm trying lots of dating sites...and I was promoting myself with sunlight, like you know, the good stuff about me and my life. Nothing happened. So today I put up the bad stuff, and now I'm getting responses. Funny. Life is weird. I always find truth works better. Patricia says "Don't give away your power". Okay, well I find my power in thinking like an ancient Celt. It's not in vogue, but it works for me, and it is very different from modern thinking. It saves me a bit, but it includes screaming in pain. I'm sorry I'm a jackass by modern standards. I'm sorry I'm untidy and vent my pain. I'm sorry I couldn't stay neat and tidy and Hindu like I'm supposed to. I'm sorry I couldn't stay one way for everybody and go on saying Krishna is God and so on. I'm sorry the love of a woman means so much to me. It does. I'm no longer willing to hear that there's something wrong with that. It the ancient lore of my people it was everything, and that's how I feel. It's everything. If that doesn't make philosophical sense, all's I can say is that philosophical sense doesn't make sense either. And, like I said before, I've never met anybody I'd rather be than me. I've never met anyone enlightened, never seen light beaming out of any guru, and I have seen them all enjoying woman just like me. I do see that astrology works. That's one thing out of all these years that continues to work. Other things too, like Ayurveda, Hatha Yoga, and other things. I'm sorry I don't work right, or don't fit right, for you, I'm sorry, but like Patty says, I'm not giving up my power, and my power is in me, my dignity, my lineage, who I am, the pain of my people, the Celtic Diaspora as we call it, my ancestors. That is the power of this body, and I honor the same in others, if they choose to honor it for themselves. I am really delighted some woman are finally talking to me. The Moon makes the Sun feel like Shining because like a mirror, he sees his own light in that reflection. The Sun is a Narcicist. The Celtic Hero is like the Sun. His dignity is everything. Disgrace is avoided. I understand the Japanese. I have the same chart as the true "Last Samurai" Yukio Mishima. Look him up, look up his chart. Same with ML King and Bob Kennedy. If you have a strongly supported Aries rising, what choice do you have? I'm not Gemini Rising. I'm not Pisces or Virgo. I'm a fortified Aries. Karna Skanda Mars Muolo Ka Kar Ra Rar We are what we are. Se la vi Royal Heart of Clann Fire Richard Vuerst-MachAeoidh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2006 Report Share Posted May 2, 2006 shanti, shanti, om shanti.... manoj sharma --- Das Goravani <> wrote: > > Okay, firstly, Juliana, I wasn't talking to you, > though it seemed like it. > > You see, I get lots of emails and phone calls from > well wishers and they all > say the same things which I won't or can't try > anymore, and one of the buzz > words is Sat Sanga. Having heard this phrase since > 25 yrs ago, from all > groups, about all Gurus, I just am sick of it. I > kindof wish people would > just say "Spiritual Association", which is basically > what it means. That > way, I could tell them in plain English that I'm not > into any form of > "Spiritual Association" that I currently know of. > Is that better? > > Secondly, did you know if Medieval England, there > was also the "Sanctuary" > law about the Church altar? Any criminal who could > make it to the altar > could claim Sanctuary and the priests would put him > up, protect him, until a > court type of situation could be worked out. > Otherwise, the Sherrifs would > just kill him pretty much on the spot where they > found him, without any > trial, guilty or not. > > So White man = Hawaiin Man > > I know this isn't what you meant, but I'm fond of > settling the score always > and making sure white man knows that he's been as > much of a jackass as > everybody else, including Human Sacrifice etc etc. > > I know I'm the king of blah blah blah.... I know > I'm the most obnoxious > person on this list. > > I only wonder why, or how, others vent the pain, of > if they don't feel it, I > wonder how that is. > > Two of my best friends growing up committed suicide. > 3 of my cousins died > tragically. One in-law was murdered by a gang. Two > of my nephews are > deranged and homeless. My father lived most of my > teen years in a mental > hospital. My mother cried all the time. Vietnam was > my youth. Bush's and > Iraq my adult life. > Kosovo...Africa...Tsunami...what a meat grinder. My > daughter is all scarred from hot water. My son's > eyeball doesn't fit and > his face is scared from a head on at 80 MPH that > killed the other guy. My > favorite brother tried to kill himself thrice and is > really messed up from > that due to the drugs doing the task partly before > he was saved. My mother > was sexually abused by her father. My favorite aunt > died of lung cancer. > When I was a kid, my bikes were stolen 5 times. My > siblings many times as > well. That was Oakland. The black verse White > thing was in full rage at > the time. The black panthers and SLA were around. > We went to school on > that turf. I was beaten up for being white often. > Once when I was about > 10, I was the first to find a car overturned, with a > 3 year old's brains and > blood gushing out from underneath in my plain site > and another screaming > with blood shooting from his jugular veign into the > air. Despite it being > in Church, I climbed up onto my Moms coffin and > kissed her on the forehead. > I knew I would never see this person, so dear to me, > ever again. The only > woman I ever really strongly loved abused me, in my > mind, by never marrying > me. > > Perhaps this is Hell and we're already here. > > I try like crazy to be OK, I really do. It just > overwhealms me regularly. > > Well, I'm trying lots of dating sites...and I was > promoting myself with > sunlight, like you know, the good stuff about me and > my life. Nothing > happened. So today I put up the bad stuff, and now > I'm getting responses. > Funny. Life is weird. > > I always find truth works better. > > Patricia says "Don't give away your power". Okay, > well I find my power in > thinking like an ancient Celt. It's not in vogue, > but it works for me, and > it is very different from modern thinking. It saves > me a bit, but it > includes screaming in pain. > > I'm sorry I'm a jackass by modern standards. I'm > sorry I'm untidy and vent > my pain. I'm sorry I couldn't stay neat and tidy > and Hindu like I'm > supposed to. I'm sorry I couldn't stay one way for > everybody and go on > saying Krishna is God and so on. > > I'm sorry the love of a woman means so much to me. > It does. I'm no longer > willing to hear that there's something wrong with > that. It the ancient lore > of my people it was everything, and that's how I > feel. It's everything. If > that doesn't make philosophical sense, all's I can > say is that philosophical > sense doesn't make sense either. And, like I said > before, I've never met > anybody I'd rather be than me. I've never met > anyone enlightened, never > seen light beaming out of any guru, and I have seen > them all enjoying woman > just like me. > > I do see that astrology works. That's one thing out > of all these years that > continues to work. Other things too, like Ayurveda, > Hatha Yoga, and other > things. > > I'm sorry I don't work right, or don't fit right, > for you, I'm sorry, but > like Patty says, I'm not giving up my power, and my > power is in me, my > dignity, my lineage, who I am, the pain of my > people, the Celtic Diaspora as > we call it, my ancestors. That is the power of this > body, and I honor the > same in others, if they choose to honor it for > themselves. > > I am really delighted some woman are finally talking > to me. > > The Moon makes the Sun feel like Shining because > like a mirror, he sees his > own light in that reflection. The Sun is a > Narcicist. The Celtic Hero is > like the Sun. His dignity is everything. Disgrace > is avoided. I > understand the Japanese. I have the same chart as > the true "Last Samurai" > Yukio Mishima. Look him up, look up his chart. > Same with ML King and Bob > Kennedy. If you have a strongly supported Aries > rising, what choice do you > have? I'm not Gemini Rising. I'm not Pisces or > Virgo. I'm a fortified > Aries. Karna Skanda Mars Muolo Ka Kar Ra Rar > > We are what we are. > > Se la vi > > Royal Heart of Clann Fire > > Richard Vuerst-MachAeoidh > > > : > > > Links > > > valist > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2006 Report Share Posted May 4, 2006 deep vairagya strictly throwing everything from heart. This is just like the principle of “Neti” “Neti”……...The “Neti” ”Neti” is happening to you…and on parallel lines the constant yearning for love is arising. Your inner being mourns for all the nector of fulfilment. The pain has always been expressing itself from the deepest which was never suppressed by you. You are looking for the fulfilment of self. And first in the queue is the love of a woman that you have identified. And the pain of understanding the truth (in whatever way you understand) and seeing the world around absorbing and spreading the truth in distorted forms is difficult. You want to shout, to tear down the beliefs but find helpless. You are a teacher, you have regard for everyone, everything in its true form.For example you are not happy how people take “Krishna”, as you had already questioned the existence of a king “Krishna” (no evidences). But I know He is not only a metaphor for you. You have had experiences..... The only thing you want to express is simplicity and innocence with all the knowledge which was always there before any religious thing.................. pain wants truth and not just listening to truth but to get truth itself.. Once fulfilled you have your lot to distribute, to shower..... may He give us the pain to lead to truth only.... may All your pain find its final goal ...the truth........... ""countless are sufferings beneath my breathsmiling like deathstinking in vainbut which can reveal allye,give me such a pain.... accepting all traumai drink all the taintthat drives me faintand my patience in drainbut which can widen my heartye,give me such a pain.... what promises lie in the dupes of hopeschanging mere ropesall efforts in vainbut which can show me truthye,give me such a pain"" (i will accept, if you disagree to anyhting..............) Love, Amit Love cheap thrills? Enjoy PC-to-Phone calls to 30+ countries for just 2¢/min with Messenger with Voice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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