Guest guest Posted May 1, 2006 Report Share Posted May 1, 2006 each other's works. Throughout much of history, to use another's words in order to spread a universal message of great import was considered a matter of pride, not a crime. In medieval Europe, writers extensively followed the Greek idea of "mimesis" or imitiation to propound important ideas. Nowadays, this sort of thing has become unethical, perhaps because high-paying book and movie deals have transformed the offense of plagiarism into a crime more like *piracy.* Mercury is, after all, the god of businesspeople, writers *and* pirates. We see that when he is influenced by darker Plutonian or nebulous Neptunian forces, he can readily shapeshift into the thief archetype.Best,Juliana--- In valist, Dark Star wrote:>> > The new art form is plagiarism> We will find especially Neptune in her birthday> She is cute...the hubris of youth...> I'm delighted she's caught> ________________________________> > Juliana Swanson wrote:> > > "Dark Star" et al,> >> > Looks or no looks, I doubt she will ever be forgiven for this if she> > is proven guilty of the alleged plagiarism. Truth is, she may be> > somewhat innocent and the book publisher might be at fault...is this> > what you meant when you said "We are at the beginning of a new art> > form which had only stumbling steps heretofore."?> >> > The following excerpt from Huffington Post.com may explain what> > happened:> > http://news./s/huffpost/20060427/cm_huffpost/019887;_ylt=A86> > ..I21h9lBEyhcBcQP9wxIF;_ylu=X3oDMTBjMHVqMTQ4BHNlYwN5bnN1YmNhdA--> > by Rachel Pine: "Is Kaavya Viswanathan an Innocent Bystander?"> >> > "Over the past few days, since the story of the alleged plagiarism> > broke, Ms. Viswanathan has maintained her innocence, saying in a> > statement, 'I wasn't aware of how much I may have internalized Ms.> > McCafferty's words.' She has also apologized, repeatedly, profusely,> > and to my ears, genuinely. But she also seems at a loss to explain> > just what happened. In an interview with the New York Times, she> > said, 'I really thought the words were my own; I guess it's just> > been in my head,' she added. 'I feel as confused as anyone about it,> > because it happened so many times.'Could someone as obviously> > intelligent as Ms. Viswanathan be reduced to an almost fugue-like> > state when trying to explain how another writer's words wound up in> > the pages of her own book?...In light of all this, here's what I> > can't help but wonder: In the process of editing and rewriting and> > then more of both, could someone else's hand have entered the> > picture? Someone who didn't mind lifting another writer's work to> > help make a deadline?"> >> > If she is found guilty as charged, I imagine that Harvard might even> > ask her to leave, which would be a terrible shame and loss,> > especially given the fact that her family paid an enormous sum> > of money to her college counselor to get her into Harvard in the> > first place.> >> > So, nobody has her birth data?> > Juliana> >> > --- In valist, Dark Star wrote:> > >> > >> > > Kaavya Viswanathan who is the19 year old author born in Madras in> > 1987> > > under as yet unknown ink bleeding plagiarizing stars, is the> > daughter of> > > rich doctors who ended up in New Jersey and then Harvard by way of> > > Scotland to write a novel that demands to be entirely stolen,> > starting> > > with the title. The whole story makes no sense otherwise. We are> > at the> > > beginning of a new art form which had only stumbling steps> > heretofore.> > > She is very attractive and so will be forgiven after a fashion.> > The ugly> > > shouldn't even try.> > > _________________________________> > >> > > Juliana Swanson wrote:> > >> > > > Dear Members,> > > >> > > > Does anyone have the birth data of Kaavya Viswanathan, the best-> > > > selling Harvard undergrad author (_How Opal Mehta Got Kissed, Got> > > > Wild, and Got a Life_) who is accused of plagiarism?> > > > > > > >> > > > Thanks,> > > > Juliana> > > >> > > > To , send an email to: > > > > http://www.goravani.com> > > > Links> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> >> > > > http://www.goravani.com> > Links> >> >> >> >>: For software visit: Links<*> To visit your group on the web, go to: valist/<*> To from this group, send an email to: valist<*> Your use of is subject to: Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2006 Report Share Posted May 1, 2006 Juliana, Dark Star , Chris et al, Speaking of Mercury-- Dan Brown (6/22/1964 in Exeter, NH--no time), author of "The Da Vinci Code" has recently been let 'off the hook' on plagiarism charges brought by the authors of "Holy Blood Holy Grail". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Brown Dan has a Mercury, Sun, Venus, Rahu conjunction in Gemini with Mercury applying to a wide sesquisquare to Neptune. We are definitely talking about a megabucks book with movie rights here (Ron Howard is doing the movie with Tom Hanks taking the lead role)---and Dan appears to have a big 'green light' now for all speed ahead. Mercury was known as the god of thievery from Roman mythology and the Gemini Twins (Castor and Pollux) were also known as cattle thieves. If we give Mr. Brown an early morning birth, then his Moon will occupy a Mercurial navamsa (Virgo) and he will fulfill at least one qualification for thievery from the Phaladeepika: "If in a nativity the Moon occupies a navamsha of Mercury and is aspected by Mars, the native may be a thief". Best, Steve Juliana Swanson wrote: Plagiarism is not really a new art form, is it? Plagiarism, "the intentional or unintentional borrowing of another's words," has been around forever, but has not always been considered unethical. Ancient classical authors like Homer and Plato borrowed heavily from each other's works. Throughout much of history, to use another's words in order to spread a universal message of great import was considered a matter of pride, not a crime. In medieval Europe, writers extensively followed the Greek idea of "mimesis" or imitiation to propound important ideas. Nowadays, this sort of thing has become unethical, perhaps because high-paying book and movie deals have transformed the offense of plagiarism into a crime more like *piracy.* Mercury is, after all, the god of businesspeople, writers *and* pirates. We see that when he is influenced by darker Plutonian or nebulous Neptunian forces, he can readily shapeshift into the thief archetype. Best, Juliana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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