Guest guest Posted April 23, 2006 Report Share Posted April 23, 2006 Namaste Patricia and all: I read the web site containing your new book. I didn't realize they circumcised girls in the the USA. I thought this only happened in Africa. Personally, I was circumcised at about 10 years old by a doctor. It was a right of passage for all young boys in the Philippines. My father had his cut off with a bolo knife by an old man. I remember it was painful after the anesthesia wore off. Curiously, my female relatives wanted to see what it looked like after it was finished. And I foolishly obliged! But it was the culture back then. I'm sure it still is now. Regards, John R. valist, Patricia Robinett <patricia wrote: > > On Apr 23, 2006, at 8:54 AM, Das Goravani wrote: > > > Astrology PROVES and is not a theory, but yes, it proves that we > > are all connected, like drops of water which follow each other down > > a flowing river. > > astrology provides that useful information. > it's humbling to know that it's all written, > scripted, and all we need do is flow with the river. > > > All the material in the universe, including the atoms of our > > bodies, are floating together. It is known that our solar system > > is moving TOGETHER through the stars like a frisbee disc flying > > through space. The rest of space , or I mean the matter, the stars > > etc., are also all interrelated inasmuch as a black hole sucks what > > is around it, not something far away, yet. > > i have a friend who calls it 'energy soup.' > > > All is interrelated. This is actually VERY basic, but yet to be > > grasped by most humans. This is one reason I dislike Christianity > > so much- it propounds that you can be totally separate. Actually > > this is taught by any "God the Father Personalism" religion > > including Vaisnavism. That's why the Hare Krishna movement doesn't > > allow Jyotish ads in their main movement magazine. The fact is, > > predeterminism and "all is one" thought flys in the face of the > > idea of "Praying to God to change my life". > > yes, very superstitious. > and yet, i read a lot of superstition on this list too. > to me, if it involves fear, it is superstition. > > > There is a one, a whole, a flow, which is going on. Jyotish proves > > this. And if you think of Jyotish, how charts are formed, you will > > see that children born close in time in nearby cities have very > > similar but slightly different charts, and they usually end up > > enduring the same things in life...the same schools, the same local > > leaders, the same local weather, sometimes the same death from > > natural disaster,...etc. > > yes, it's beautiful. > > > > It's so clear to me, personally. I need no theories from any > > scientist. The blowing wind first hits the tree on the edge of the > > yard, then the next, then the next, in perfect order... There is > > nothing random, ever, ever, ever....all is one, in a flow, ALL IS > > ONE. There is NO escape either, only SARANAGATI or SURRENDER > > surrender to what, das? > i get from many of the posts here that the idea > is to 'surrender to 'fate'/the 'inevitable'' -- and suffer. > is that what all the masters have meant by 'surrender'? > i personally don't think so. > i think it is more as rumi and the other more romantic poets > have said, to surrender to the Lover. to Love itself... > to the Power of Life, which is the ultimate pleasure... > 'absolute beauty' is what socrates called it. > > > > Maya, the delusion, is thinking we are separate. Again this is why > > I dislike "RELIGIONS" which "TEACH (?)" that you are an > > "individual" with "free will". > > i don't agree with religions that think we are separate from > one another or separate from the creative force, 'God.' > this is how i would read the concept of 'free will'... > we can choose, in any moment, > to identify with our idea of separation and > experience the fear and tension that engenders, > or enjoy the fact of oneness... absolute beauty. > that 'quiet melting in', that delicious acceptance of BEING. > that is where our 'free will' lies... not in 'doing.' > free will is our choice of where we place our attention. > we are always surrendered -- either to the limited mind, > the idea of separation -- or the awareness of unlimited, energy soup. > when we surrender to the flow of the river, the soup, > we are reliniquishing our loose canon of attention (judgment, > fear, anger, sorrow, grief, etc) to the nature of love, life, which > is all > that truly exists. the rest is just our trying to swim upstream. > we can be invested in the idea that things should be different -- > fight the flow of the river -- or just let go and be in the flow of > life, breath... > in this moment. in the now. fully present. conscious. aware. nice. > > right use of free will = intention to join with the 'forever'... > moment by moment, breath by breath. > > > They should look at the words. "WILL" means only "WANTING". Hah! > > Not GETTING. > > my dictionary says something quite different. > nothing about wanting. perhaps you are thinking > of the word, 'wish'? > > love, patricia > > Buy my NEW BOOK > "The Rape of Innocence : > One Woman's Story of > Female Genital Mutilation in the USA" > at http://www.AesculapiusPress.com > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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