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Namaste Patricia and all:

 

I read the web site containing your new book. I didn't realize they

circumcised girls in the the USA. I thought this only happened in

Africa.

 

Personally, I was circumcised at about 10 years old by a doctor. It

was a right of passage for all young boys in the Philippines. My

father had his cut off with a bolo knife by an old man.

 

I remember it was painful after the anesthesia wore off. Curiously,

my female relatives wanted to see what it looked like after it was

finished. And I foolishly obliged! But it was the culture back

then. I'm sure it still is now.

 

Regards,

 

John R.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

valist, Patricia Robinett <patricia wrote:

>

> On Apr 23, 2006, at 8:54 AM, Das Goravani wrote:

>

> > Astrology PROVES and is not a theory, but yes, it proves that we

> > are all connected, like drops of water which follow each other

down

> > a flowing river.

>

> astrology provides that useful information.

> it's humbling to know that it's all written,

> scripted, and all we need do is flow with the river.

>

> > All the material in the universe, including the atoms of our

> > bodies, are floating together. It is known that our solar

system

> > is moving TOGETHER through the stars like a frisbee disc flying

> > through space. The rest of space , or I mean the matter, the

stars

> > etc., are also all interrelated inasmuch as a black hole sucks

what

> > is around it, not something far away, yet.

>

> i have a friend who calls it 'energy soup.' :)

>

> > All is interrelated. This is actually VERY basic, but yet to be

> > grasped by most humans. This is one reason I dislike

Christianity

> > so much- it propounds that you can be totally separate.

Actually

> > this is taught by any "God the Father Personalism" religion

> > including Vaisnavism. That's why the Hare Krishna movement

doesn't

> > allow Jyotish ads in their main movement magazine. The fact is,

> > predeterminism and "all is one" thought flys in the face of the

> > idea of "Praying to God to change my life".

>

> yes, very superstitious.

> and yet, i read a lot of superstition on this list too.

> to me, if it involves fear, it is superstition.

>

> > There is a one, a whole, a flow, which is going on. Jyotish

proves

> > this. And if you think of Jyotish, how charts are formed, you

will

> > see that children born close in time in nearby cities have very

> > similar but slightly different charts, and they usually end up

> > enduring the same things in life...the same schools, the same

local

> > leaders, the same local weather, sometimes the same death from

> > natural disaster,...etc.

>

> yes, it's beautiful.

> >

> > It's so clear to me, personally. I need no theories from any

> > scientist. The blowing wind first hits the tree on the edge of

the

> > yard, then the next, then the next, in perfect order... There is

> > nothing random, ever, ever, ever....all is one, in a flow, ALL

IS

> > ONE. There is NO escape either, only SARANAGATI or SURRENDER

>

> surrender to what, das? :)

> i get from many of the posts here that the idea

> is to 'surrender to 'fate'/the 'inevitable'' -- and suffer. :)

> is that what all the masters have meant by 'surrender'?

> i personally don't think so.

> i think it is more as rumi and the other more romantic poets

> have said, to surrender to the Lover. to Love itself...

> to the Power of Life, which is the ultimate pleasure...

> 'absolute beauty' is what socrates called it.

> >

> > Maya, the delusion, is thinking we are separate. Again this is

why

> > I dislike "RELIGIONS" which "TEACH (?)" that you are an

> > "individual" with "free will".

>

> i don't agree with religions that think we are separate from

> one another or separate from the creative force, 'God.'

> this is how i would read the concept of 'free will'...

> we can choose, in any moment,

> to identify with our idea of separation and

> experience the fear and tension that engenders,

> or enjoy the fact of oneness... absolute beauty.

> that 'quiet melting in', that delicious acceptance of BEING.

> that is where our 'free will' lies... not in 'doing.'

> free will is our choice of where we place our attention.

> we are always surrendered -- either to the limited mind,

> the idea of separation -- or the awareness of unlimited, energy

soup.

> when we surrender to the flow of the river, the soup,

> we are reliniquishing our loose canon of attention (judgment,

> fear, anger, sorrow, grief, etc) to the nature of love, life,

which

> is all

> that truly exists. the rest is just our trying to swim upstream.

> we can be invested in the idea that things should be different --

> fight the flow of the river -- or just let go and be in the flow

of

> life, breath...

> in this moment. in the now. fully present. conscious. aware.

nice.

>

> right use of free will = intention to join with the 'forever'...

> moment by moment, breath by breath.

>

> > They should look at the words. "WILL" means only "WANTING".

Hah!

> > Not GETTING.

>

> my dictionary says something quite different.

> nothing about wanting. perhaps you are thinking

> of the word, 'wish'?

>

> love, patricia

>

> Buy my NEW BOOK

> "The Rape of Innocence :

> One Woman's Story of

> Female Genital Mutilation in the USA"

> at http://www.AesculapiusPress.com

>

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